View Full Version : KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or DPOY
3ba11
07-10-2025, 10:05 PM
so KD and Lebron did less in 40 years than MJ did in 15 years
while averaging 5 less PPG in the playoffs (playing at a lower level entirely).
KD was locked up by Wes Matthews, Tatum and Prince in the playoffs - Tatum exposed that a tiny bit of physicality turns KD into a bad player, so he would never make it in the 90's.
Full Court
07-10-2025, 10:07 PM
Great observation.
There's a reason Jordan is still overwhelmingly the consensus GOAT despite the fierce Lebron media campaign and all the recency bias. There are levels to this game, and Lebron and KD just aren't on the same level as MJ.
SouBeachTalents
07-10-2025, 10:25 PM
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
ShawkFactory
07-10-2025, 10:27 PM
Holy shit this is so boring
1987_Lakers
07-10-2025, 10:28 PM
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
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3ba11
07-10-2025, 10:29 PM
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
Jordan + scrubs isn't analogous to my KD + Lebron example.
So the OP stands
If you could use Bird or Magic or Shaq, then you might have something... But you can't use the same caliber of player that I used with KD/Lebron.. You have to use Jordan plus CP frieking 3.. gtfo you lose
SouBeachTalents
07-10-2025, 10:33 PM
Jordan + scrubs isn't analogous to my KD + Lebron example.
So the OP stands
If you could use Bird or Magic or Shaq, then you might have something... But you can't use the same caliber of player that I used with KD/Lebron.. You have to use Jordan plus CP frieking 3.. gtfo you lose
Wade's a scrub? So that means LeBron won his first 2 titles with his best teammate as a scrub.
:eek:
1987_Lakers
07-10-2025, 10:36 PM
Wade's a scrub? So that means LeBron won his first 2 titles with his best teammate as a scrub.
:eek:
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3ba11
07-10-2025, 10:36 PM
Wade's a scrub? So that means LeBron won his first 2 titles with his best teammate as a scrub.
:eek:
Lebron turned Wade into a scrub by reducing his stats and giving him a 2nd option legacy.
If Wade had stayed on his own and remained a top dog, then he would be compared to Kobe and MJ as a standard.. But instead, he's left out of all conversations like that because Lebron reduced Wade's game and legacy.
Again, you have to use guys like Magic or Bird to make it analogous - you have to use top 15 guys like I did with KD/Lebron... You can't use top 100 guys like CP3 and say it's the same..
NBAGOAT
07-11-2025, 02:55 AM
Lebron turned Wade into a scrub by reducing his stats and giving him a 2nd option legacy.
If Wade had stayed on his own and remained a top dog, then he would be compared to Kobe and MJ as a standard.. But instead, he's left out of all conversations like that because Lebron reduced Wade's game and legacy.
Again, you have to use guys like Magic or Bird to make it analogous - you have to use top 15 guys like I did with KD/Lebron... You can't use top 100 guys like CP3 and say it's the same..
Kd isn’t consensus top 15. He also has a 2nd option legacy playing with curry
StrongLurk
07-11-2025, 08:02 AM
Holy shit this is so boring
It really is. OP is trying to hype up AND also criticize Lebron and KD in the same thread, even within the same posts. Guess someone let him out of the old folks/mental ward again.
tpols
07-11-2025, 08:17 AM
If Reggie could put up great scoring @ 6'7 180 lbs I dont see how 7ft 230 lb Durant can't hang. Hes a much bigger better Reggie Miller.
Hey Yo
07-11-2025, 09:00 AM
Kd isn’t consensus top 15. He also has a 2nd option legacy playing with curry
Curry has a 'only 1 fmvp' legacy.
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
Interesting.
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Full Court
07-13-2025, 04:25 PM
Thread cliffs:
Jordan is GOAT. Lebron is an entire tier below.
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