Ouch. Lebron couldn't make the playoffs without Larry Hughes. Ouch.

[Walk on Water]

Deng. I didn't even know this. By the way they talk about Lebron, you would think he made the playoffs every year from the start. Ha ha ha, he missed it the first 2 seasons? They talk about how Lebron wasn't playing with talent. Well Jordan made the playoffs his first 2 seasons. So by Lebron's fans logic, Lebron is trash because he couldn't even make the PLAYOFFS until Larry Hughes who was coming off a season of 22 points per game and was the league leader in steals.

Lebron couldn't even make the PLAYOFFS until he got Hughes!!!!!!! Couldn't make the playoffs in the East???? Dang dude. Dude......... What a BUM.

[3ba11]

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Lebron received 4 guys that were better than 1990 Pippen:



05' HUGHES (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hughela01.html).............. 21.6 PER... 0.157 WS/48... 3.7 VORP... 4.3 BPM... 22/6/5.... 1st Team All-D
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................ 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/6/5.... No All-D

09' MO WILLIAMS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html)....... 17.2 PER... 0.165 WS/48... 3.1 VORP... 2.3 BPM... 17/3/4..... #3 team defense
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................. 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/7/5... #19 team defense

09' JAMISON (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamisan01.html).............. 20.6 PER... 0.126 WS/48... 2.8 VORP... 1.6 BPM... 22/9/2
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................. 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/7/5

06' ZYDRUNAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ilgauzy01.html)'........... 21.9 PER... 0.184 WS/48... 2.1 VORP... 1.6 BPM... 16/8/1 (2 bpg)
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................. 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/7/5

[3ba11]

The Cavs had better defenses than the 1st three-peat Bulls, while Hughes, Mo, Zydrunas and Jamison were better than 1990 Pippen (previous post)..

So Lebron started with several better casts than Jordan's 1st three-peat Bulls on both sides of the ball, yet Jordan still beat him to titles by winning in 91', while Lebron lost as the favorite for 3 straight years (09-11'), after getting locked up in 08'.

[Walk on Water]

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Lebron received 4 guys that were better than 1990 Pippen:



05' HUGHES (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hughela01.html).............. 21.6 PER... 0.157 WS/48... 3.7 VORP... 4.3 BPM... 22/6/5.... 1st Team All-D
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................ 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/6/5.... No All-D

09' MO WILLIAMS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html)....... 17.2 PER... 0.165 WS/48... 3.1 VORP... 2.3 BPM... 17/3/4..... #3 team defense
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................. 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/7/5... #19 team defense

09' JAMISON (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamisan01.html).............. 20.6 PER... 0.126 WS/48... 2.8 VORP... 1.6 BPM... 22/9/2
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................. 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/7/5

06' ZYDRUNAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ilgauzy01.html)'........... 21.9 PER... 0.184 WS/48... 2.1 VORP... 1.6 BPM... 16/8/1 (2 bpg)
90' PIPPEN (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html)................. 16.3 PER... 0.087 WS/48... 3.0 VORP... 1.8 BPM... 16/7/5



Yup. It wasn’t that LeBron had no help. He just wasn’t good enough.

[Lebron23]

Jordan missed the playoffs playing with Jerry Stackhouse, Richard Hamilton, Christian Laetner and Larry Hughes.

[Tavr]

Funny how a certain fanbase hangs their hat on Jordan never winning a playoff series before Pippen. Well...LeBron couldn't even make the freaking postseason without Larry Hughes.

Clearly both takes are disingenuous, but OP is the result of dishonest and lunatic LeBron fans. :lol FAFO

[Lebron23]

LeBron and his team won 35 games and 42 games in 2004 and 2005. The Chicago Bulls won 30 games in 1986 and they made it in the playoffs. Only to be swept by the Boston Celtics.

[3ba11]

LeBron and his team won 35 games and 42 games in 2004 and 2005. The Chicago Bulls won 30 games in 1986 and they made it in the playoffs. Only to be swept by the Boston Celtics.


Making the playoffs with 30 wins was a statistical anomaly that forced MJ to carry the worst playoff team in history (30-win team).

But it was no problem because MJ can perform well against max defensive attention (carrying the scoring load), while Lebron was frequently locked up against max defensive attention, such as the 07' Finals, 08' ECSF, and many more

[Lebron23]

Making the playoffs with 30 wins was a statistical anomaly that forced MJ to carry the worst playoff team in history (30-win team).

But it was no problem because MJ can perform well against max defensive attention (carrying the scoring load), while Lebron was frequently locked up against max defensive attention, such as the 07' Finals, 08' ECSF, and many more

Huh? Jordan was a loser in the 1980's. A bald headed Dominique Wilkins.

[3ba11]

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Help needed to win 50 games


06' LEBRON...... East All-Star Center.... 22/6/5 1st Team Defense acquisition
88' JORDAN'..... nothing




Huh? Jordan was a loser in the 1980's. A bald headed Dominique Wilkins.


MJ won 50 games in 1988 with a 7.9 ppg rookie that came off the bench, while Lebron needed the East all-star center and an acquisition that was better than 1990 Pippen to win 50 games in 2006 - Jordan 3-peated with this kind of help... See the first response to this thread for the stats of Zydrunas or Larry Hughes vs 1990 Pippen.. Lebron was gifted 4 guys that were better than 1990 Pippen, but his skillset of turning everyone into spot-up shooter couldn't develop anyone.

[Walk on Water]

Jordan missed the playoffs playing with Jerry Stackhouse, Richard Hamilton, Christian Laetner and Larry Hughes.


I knew you were gonna go that route. But LeBron missed the play in with Davis, Westbrook, Howard, Rondo and Melo.

[Walk on Water]

LeBron and his team won 35 games and 42 games in 2004 and 2005. The Chicago Bulls won 30 games in 1986 and they made it in the playoffs. Only to be swept by the Boston Celtics.


But at least Jordan made the playoffs. LeBron missed the playoffs TWICE before he had Larry Hughes. Remember LeBron usually has a bad season record cuz according to you he’s resting for the playoffs. So I can say Jordan was conserving his energy too except he actually made the playoffs his first 2 seasons. Your boy did not.

Yes my take is kinda stupid but this is the same thing you do. LeBron couldn’t make the playoffs without Larry Hughes.

[Full Court]

Funny how a certain fanbase hangs their hat on Jordan never winning a playoff series before Pippen. Well...LeBron couldn't even make the freaking postseason without Larry Hughes.

Clearly both takes are disingenuous, but OP is the result of dishonest and lunatic LeBron fans. :lol FAFO

OP is making a point about how dumb and desperate Bronie fluffers are. We all know this, but it never hurts to remind them. :lol