Worst Choke Job in NBA History?

[Full Court]

Lebron James 2007 NBA finals vs. Spurs:
Shot 35% for the series. Averaged 5.7 turnovers.
Went from the "Chosen One" to the "Frozen One."


Lebron James 2008 vs Celtics:
Game 1, 12 points and 19 turnovers. Oh, and he shot 11% from the field.
Game 2, 21 points on 25% shooting.
Game 3, 21 points on 31% shooting.
Game 4, 21 points on 35% shooting.
Picked up the nickname "LeShrivel."


Lebron James - 2011 NBA finals vs. Mavs:
Averaged 17.8 points. In game 4, scored a whopping 8 points...on 3 of 11 shooting. He stunk worse in that series than Axe on a bad day.


Lebron James - 2025 vs Timberwolves:
Completely blew the fourth quarters of two must-win games. In one game, he went completely scoreless in the fourth quarter. In the next, he made one single field goal the entire fourth quarter (until garbage time, when the game's outcome was already determined and he made an uncontested layup). Choked harder than Lebron23 with a tubesteak.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's a tossup between

Wilt in 1968
Wilt in 1969
Wilt in 1970

[Full Court]

It's a tossup between

Wilt in 1968
Wilt in 1969
Wilt in 1970

Dudley, is that you??? :lol

[1987_Lakers]

It's a tossup between

Wilt in 1968
Wilt in 1969
Wilt in 1970

This

[warriorfan]

Jason Terry

[1987_Lakers]

Wilt was the first player ever to blow a 3-1 lead in 1968

1969 - Lost despite having peak Jerry West playing out of his mind & Baylor. The first formed "super team". Had a 3-2 lead vs Boston and blew it.

1970 - Lost game 7 to the Knicks despite Willis Reed (MVP of the league) playing at like 20%. Wilt went 1-11 from the FT line in that game.

1984 Magic Johnson and 2016 Curry also deserve mentions. How do you get locked up by Kevin Love?

[Full Court]

Wilt was the first player ever to blow a 3-1 lead in 1968

1969 - Lost despite having peak Jerry West playing out of his mind & Baylor. The first formed "super team". Had a 3-2 lead vs Boston and blew it.

1970 - Lost game 7 to the Knicks despite Willis Reed (MVP of the league) playing at like 20%. Wilt went 1-11 from the FT line in that game.

1984 Magic Johnson and 2016 Curry also deserve mentions. How do you get locked up by Kevin Love?

Doesn't even come CLOSE to the 2011 choke. You're just too blinded by love for another man to admit it. But you know deep down. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Doesn't even come CLOSE to the 2011 choke. You're just too blinded by love for another man to admit it. But you know deep down. :lol

Wilt's chokes were worse. Imagine choking 3 straight years. :lol

[Full Court]

Wilt's chokes were worse. Imagine choking 3 straight years. :lol

LeShrivel is on a five year-and-counting choke streak.

Let me help you with some math: 5 is greater than three.

Just like 6 is greater than 4.

:lebronamazed:

[1987_Lakers]

LeShrivel is on a five year-and-counting choke streak.

Let me help you with some math: 5 is greater than three.

Just like 6 is greater than 4.

:lebronamazed:

If it helps you sleep at night.

[SouBeachTalents]

LeShrivel is on a five year-and-counting choke streak.

Let me help you with some math: 5 is greater than three.

Just like 6 is greater than 4.

:lebronamazed:
And 4 is double 2.

:lebronamazed:

[Full Court]

And 4 is double 2.

:lebronamazed:

You appear to understand basic math.

Therefore, you should be able to also understand that Lebron's 45 choke jobs represent a greater number than any other player's in NBA history.

[1987_Lakers]

And 4 is double 2.

:lebronamazed:

Full tard getting brutalized yet again.

I don't think he's ever won an argument on ISH. He's that terrible at it. Gets tossed around like a rag doll.

[Gudo]

Nothing beats 2011. It is absolutley the worst for any atg.

[Full Court]

Full tard getting brutalized yet again.

I don't think he's ever won an argument on ISH. He's that terrible at it. Gets tossed around like a rag doll.

:roll:

Desperation.

Check out the poll. Your hero in 2011 had the consensus WORST. CHOKE. JOB. OF. ALL. TIME.

Any chance he ever had at being the GOAT died right there.

Truth hurts.

:lebroncry:

[Nowoco]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGrSSUxUAAA6_2Y.jpg

[bullettooth]

2016 Warriors

Incredible season, only to completely **** up in the end against the Cavs and finals loser LeBron with a 3-1 lead and home court advantage.

2011 is also a monumental failure considering the massive shortcut LeBron took to get to the finals only to shit the bed in epic fashion and permanently take him out of the running for GOAT status.

[Hey Yo]

2016 Warriors

Incredible season, only to completely **** up in the end against the Cavs and finals loser LeBron with a 3-1 lead and home court advantage.

2011 is also a monumental failure considering the massive shortcut LeBron took to get to the finals only to shit the bed in epic fashion and permanently take him out of the running for GOAT status.

Wade was first option in the 2011 Finals and couldn't get it done. It took Wade getting injured in 2012 for Spoelstra to see how much better the Heat looked with LeBron as first option which led to B2B titles.

[SouBeachTalents]

Wade was first option in the 2011 Finals and couldn't get it done. It took Wade getting injured in 2012 for Spoelstra to see how much better the Heat looked with LeBron as first option which led to B2B titles.
LeBron was first option 2007, 2014, 2015, 2017 & 2018 and couldn't get it done.

[Hey Yo]

LeBron was first option 2007, 2014, 2015, 2017 & 2018 and couldn't get it done.

Correct

[tpols]

2014 Miami Heat is underrated. They were the title favorites and lost by the biggest margin of defeat in NBA Finals history to a geriatric Spurs team.

[Hey Yo]

2014 Miami Heat is underrated. They were the title favorites and lost by the biggest margin of defeat in NBA Finals history to a geriatric Spurs team.

Wade had 89 O-rating... 120 D-rating and a 7.9 game score. Bosh wasn't much better.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2014-nba-finals-heat-vs-spurs.html

[1987_Lakers]

2014 Miami Heat is underrated. They were the title favorites and lost by the biggest margin of defeat in NBA Finals history to a geriatric Spurs team.

Nah, Wade was cooked by 2014. I remember him being pretty bad in those playoffs, even worse in the Finals. The cast wasn't anywhere near the same, I remember a washed up Rashard Lewis getting heavy minutes vs the Spurs. It was basically a one man show.

One of the reasons why Miami's run was so short is because of Wade's decline. Went from a bonafide superstar in 2011 to a borderline All-Star in 2014. And Spurs were favorites to win before the series started.

[SouBeachTalents]

Correct
Do you really don't see how retarded it is to blame the guy who plays well and not the one who plays like shit?

So LeBron gets the blame in 2014 and not Wade? Shaq in 2004 but not Kobe?

It really is extremely fvcking stupid, and such a weird hill to die on to try to cover up for LeBron's unanimously terrible performance :lol

[1987_Lakers]

An underrated choke has to be the 2020 Clippers. One of the favorites to win it all, I remember them getting '96 Bulls comparisons in terms of perimeter defense with Kawhi, PG13, & Beverley. Had a 3-1 lead vs Denver then proceeded to lose 3 straight games.

Nobody labels the Blazers game 7 collapse in 2000 as a choke because it was against Shaq/Kobe, but it was a choke.

I know people say the Kings were screwed by the refs in 2002, which they were, but if you go back and watch that game 7 you could see every Sacramento player was shitting their pants except for Bibby. You had Peja air balling uncontested 3 pointers and they missed a shit ton of free throws.

[tpols]

The Heat were dominant +200 favorites to win the 2014 NBA title. The Spurs with the same roster back were +1200. Massive talent difference. But Spurs overcame it with their elite chemistry while Miamis was in the toilet.

Tis was a major beatdown. Biggest ever statistically.

[SouBeachTalents]

2014 Miami Heat is underrated. They were the title favorites and lost by the biggest margin of defeat in NBA Finals history to a geriatric Spurs team.
The geriatric Spurs won 62 games in a loaded western conference, and had won 8 of their playoff games by 15+ points heading into the Finals. You have to cling to the one off of needing 7 games in the first round, aided by a fluky Carter GW, to try to dispel the fact they were playing insane basketball most of the playoffs.

[Hey Yo]

Do you really don't see how retarded it is to blame the guy who plays well and not the one who plays like shit?

So LeBron gets the blame in 2014 and not Wade? Shaq in 2004 but not Kobe?

It really is extremely fvcking stupid, and such a weird hill to die on to try to cover up for LeBron's unanimously terrible performance :lol

James avg 8pts less than he did in the regular season but the same boards and dimes. He led the team in scoring in 2 of the 6gms. Sure he underperformed at times but calling it a unanimous terrible performance is quite a stretch. Wade's 2014 Finals is what you classify as an all around terrible performance.

[1987_Lakers]

The Heat were dominant +200 favorites to win the 2014 NBA title. The Spurs with the same roster back were +1200. Massive talent difference. But Spurs overcame it with their elite chemistry while Miamis was in the toilet.

Tis was a major beatdown. Biggest ever statistically.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/heat-vs-spurs-2014-nba-finals-series-price/

San Antonio Spurs are the favorites to win the title with the series price at -126; meanwhile the Miami Heat is +106

:sleeping

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/heat-vs-spurs-2014-nba-finals-series-price/

San Antonio Spurs are the favorites to win the title with the series price at -126; meanwhile the Miami Heat is +106

:sleeping
What the oddsmakers said in October is far more relevant than what they said when the series started after a 100 game sample size of both teams.

[ShawkFactory]

The Heat were dominant +200 favorites to win the 2014 NBA title. The Spurs with the same roster back were +1200. Massive talent difference. But Spurs overcame it with their elite chemistry while Miamis was in the toilet.

Tis was a major beatdown. Biggest ever statistically.

Tends to happen when everyone is that banged up and the other team is that hot.

Aren't you supposed to be the "there's layers to this shit maynneee" guy? Or does that not apply when negatively speaking about Lebron? Rhetorical question obviously.

[bullettooth]

Wade was first option in the 2011 Finals and couldn't get it done. It took Wade getting injured in 2012 for Spoelstra to see how much better the Heat looked with LeBron as first option which led to B2B titles.

I wonder why Wade had to be the first option.

Nothing gets through to you, sweetheart.

[Hey Yo]

I wonder why Wade had to be the first option.

Nothing gets through to you, sweetheart.

Cause it was his team to begin with.... durrrrr.

[gengiskhan]

NONE.

WORST Choke Job Ever!

1993 NBA Finals Game 6, Phoenix, Arizona.........4th Quarter!

Pippen ZERO pts 3 TO
Grant ZERO Pts 2 TO
Cartwright ZERO Pts
Amstrong ZERO pts
Paxson 3 Pts
Jordan 9 Pts

Lowest 4th Quarter Total in the NBA History is still........ 12 Pts.

Ultimate Choke Job.

If GOAT did not happen, Paxson's only other made 3 pt FG would've been useless. Bulls dont 3-peat on the road.

[bullettooth]

Cause it was his team to begin with.... durrrrr.

You'll move the goal posts any time it benefits your argument, muffin.

[sdot_thadon]

What the oddsmakers said in October is far more relevant than what they said when the series started after a 100 game sample size of both teams.

This.:oldlol: why would the odds after seeing the entire season play out matter more than when they were the favorites before the season began:biggums:

[sdot_thadon]

I wonder why Wade had to be the first option.

Nothing gets through to you, sweetheart.

If you watched at that time you know why Wade was the 1st option. The retard narrative of the moment somehow being to heavy for a guy with as many legendary moments as anyone to ever play is a personal choice.

[Gudo]

Wow, so many excuses for 2011 :oldlol:

[Full Court]

If you watched at that time you know why Wade was the 1st option. The retard narrative of the moment somehow being to heavy for a guy with as many legendary moments as anyone to ever play is a personal choice.

So you admit that Lebron can't carry a team like the other greats could.

I agree with you.

[sdot_thadon]

So you admit that Lebron can't carry a team like the other greats could.

I agree with you.

I said nothing of the sort, you definitely weren't too good in school judging from your reading comprehension here. Lebron carried plenty of teams, youre not that stupid. Imo Miami was probably the weirdest basketball season of his life. Maybe any face of the leagues life. They crafted a delicate balance between he and Wade to not make either of them look bad as they were both bonafied franchise guys. I always see the homemade narratives about Wade supposedly teaching Lebron something and the dual press conferences and all. But emotional people cant ever make rational observations. This is already way more of a reply than you deserved but whatever

[warriorfan]

I said nothing of the sort, you definitely weren't too good in school judging from your reading comprehension here. Lebron carried plenty of teams, youre not that stupid. Imo Miami was probably the weirdest basketball season of his life. Maybe any face of the leagues life. They crafted a delicate balance between he and Wade to not make either of them look bad as they were both bonafied franchise guys. I always see the homemade narratives about Wade supposedly teaching Lebron something and the dual press conferences and all. But emotional people cant ever make rational observations. This is already way more of a reply than you deserved but whatever
You are the most cringe bron simp ever to imagine themselves.

[Full Court]

I said nothing of the sort, you definitely weren't too good in school judging from your reading comprehension here. Lebron carried plenty of teams, youre not that stupid. Imo Miami was probably the weirdest basketball season of his life. Maybe any face of the leagues life. They crafted a delicate balance between he and Wade to not make either of them look bad as they were both bonafied franchise guys. I always see the homemade narratives about Wade supposedly teaching Lebron something and the dual press conferences and all. But emotional people cant ever make rational observations. This is already way more of a reply than you deserved but whatever

He's had the most help in the history of the sport.

[rmt]

I said nothing of the sort, you definitely weren't too good in school judging from your reading comprehension here. Lebron carried plenty of teams, youre not that stupid. Imo Miami was probably the weirdest basketball season of his life. Maybe any face of the leagues life. They crafted a delicate balance between he and Wade to not make either of them look bad as they were both bonafied franchise guys. I always see the homemade narratives about Wade supposedly teaching Lebron something and the dual press conferences and all. But emotional people cant ever make rational observations. This is already way more of a reply than you deserved but whatever

As a Miami local listening to most of the sports shows/AM radio, etc. I can assure you that the buzz was about Lebron (and his earlier promise of "Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7...And when I say that, I really believe it.") - not about Wade (or any so called mentorship of Lebron). That 2011 Finals was an EMBARRASSMENT for who some of you refer to as GOAT.

[Wally450]

Kawhi in the bubble was pretty bad.

Also, Curry in 2016.

[Jasper]

heat against Dallas year

D-wade , Bosh and Bron:facepalm

[sdot_thadon]

As a Miami local listening to most of the sports shows/AM radio, etc. I can assure you that the buzz was about Lebron (and his earlier promise of "Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7...And when I say that, I really believe it.") - not about Wade (or any so called mentorship of Lebron). That 2011 Finals was an EMBARRASSMENT for who some of you refer to as GOAT.

I believe that. When I say homemade I mean these people who make the narrative they want to see and get mad when everyone doesn't buy it. Theres a ton of them attached to Lebron by fans of other players trying to cope. And it (2011)was absolutely terrible for Lebron, I think it was a necessary evil for him to become who he did after that season too. That was his hard fail that lead to a long run of success.

[sdot_thadon]

You are the most cringe bron simp ever to imagine themselves.

Boi fuh-que. Im enjoying your lil salty meltdowns though.:oldlol:

[rmt]

I believe that. When I say homemade I mean these people who make the narrative they want to see and get mad when everyone doesn't buy it. Theres a ton of them attached to Lebron by fans of other players trying to cope. And it (2011)was absolutely terrible for Lebron, I think it was a necessary evil for him to become who he did after that season too. That was his hard fail that lead to a long run of success.

I guess the ongoing debate is whether that long run of success is better than MJ's career which did not have the stain of a hard fail on the biggest stage. I personally don't think that longevity is better than more winning in a shorter time frame (without the hard fail) - but that's just me.

[Full Court]

I guess the ongoing debate is whether that long run of success is better than MJ's career which did not have the stain of a hard fail on the biggest stage. I personally don't think that longevity is better than more winning in a shorter time frame (without the hard fail) - but that's just me.

It's not just you. It's the overwhelming majority of people. That's why Jordan's still consensus GOAT despite the biggest media campaign ever to try to sell everyone on Lebron.

[Hey Yo]

As a Miami local listening to most of the sports shows/AM radio, etc. I can assure you that the buzz was about Lebron (and his earlier promise of "Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7...And when I say that, I really believe it.") - not about Wade (or any so called mentorship of Lebron). That 2011 Finals was an EMBARRASSMENT for who some of you refer to as GOAT.

You really believe what was said at a pep rally for home fans was 100% legit? Fans were going to hold LeBron to bringing 7 straight titles?

[Full Court]

You really believe what was said at a pep rally for home fans was 100% legit? Fans were going to hold LeBron to bringing 7 straight titles?

Really doesn't matter. Fact is, he couldn't even make 3. :confusedshrug:

[SouBeachTalents]

Really doesn't matter. Fact is, he couldn't even make 3. :confusedshrug:
Neither could Wilt :(

[Full Court]

Neither could Wilt :(

Newsflash: Wilt's not the GOAT either.

:roll:


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[sdot_thadon]

I guess the ongoing debate is whether that long run of success is better than MJ's career which did not have the stain of a hard fail on the biggest stage. I personally don't think that longevity is better than more winning in a shorter time frame (without the hard fail) - but that's just me.

He did, his hard fail just came earlier than the finals. The thing behind my takes on all this is normally about perception and how it varies from guy to guy. We hate consume the NBA in the post Jordan era. Everything is a critique and every player is a failure one way or another.....unless we like that guy. In 1989 the extent of being a Jordan hater was someone who called him a showboat or ballhog. That was it! Athletes didn't get constant negative press like now. In the NBA the only guys they killed in the media were the drug addicts and Charles Barkley lol. We didn't focus on the failures of a successful person ever. The buffalo bills were the butt of jokes because they never won the big one. Had they done so they would have been vindicated. That's the way sports fandom used to work. We let that same ideology carry over for Mj but not the guys we're comparing him with. Mj had a terrible game 5 against Detroit in the conference finals that basically flew under the radar until recently. Why? Becuase in his time we didn't judge stars with negative foot 1st standards.

I know I went off on a bit of a tangent but I'll do it with sensible posters even if we don't agree lol. I personally dont put longevity at the forefront of Lebrons goat case, its just a nice thing he has in his back pocket. Hes won enough for us to know hes a winner and big game player and hes been in position to try to win in some crazy spots. Sometimes hes come through, sometimes he didn't. Ive never played the matching accolades game either, each career is too distinct to do that in good faith.

[John8204]

It's a tossup between

Wilt in 1968
Wilt in 1969
Wilt in 1970

Kareem in 1973
Kareem in 1977
Kareem in 1981

[1987_Lakers]

Neither could Wilt :(

Ouch.

[tpols]

You really believe what was said at a pep rally for home fans was 100% legit? Fans were going to hold LeBron to bringing 7 straight titles?

Chico that was the real hype that team had. Its kind of gotten buried in history but two top 3 players at their peaks teaming up on the rest of the league has never happened before. Much less in a garbage conference. They were expected to dominate and lost to a +2000 underdog. Thats ridiculous.

[Gudo]

Chico that was the real hype that team had. Its kind of gotten buried in history but two top 3 players at their peaks teaming up on the rest of the league has never happened before. Much less in a garbage conference. They were expected to dominate and lost to a +2000 underdog. Thats ridiculous.

They are trying to make people forget about it or misremember. If only it was just a tweet that he could simply remove and evidence of.

"Oh no they didn't" - This tells you they knew they did something that should not have been done.

[sdot_thadon]

They are trying to make people forget about it or misremember. If only it was just a tweet that he could simply remove and evidence of.

"Oh no they didn't" - This tells you they knew they did something that should not have been done.

Nah I just think people are being realistic. That 1st season? Yeah hold them to that standard, this was Wade's last year being the prime Wade everyone likes to pretend Lebron got 4 years of. The other 3 was him with knee issues, getting his knee drained in every playoff run and settling into being a lesser player than he was used to being. Still a great player made all nba 3rd teams until 2014, but not a franchise level guy post 2011. Oh and of course the obligatory Bosh was like Larry Bird joining Magic and Mj trash. People form the narratives the way they want them to present.

[Full Court]

Ouch.

Here, educate yourself, homie. :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApHmYt7ziMk