Trump admin blocks investigation into Epstein money trail.

[j3lademaster]

https://www.beltway.news/p/trump-admin-blocks-investigation?open=false#%C2%A7what-happened


A four-year congressional investigation into the assets of millionaire financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has been stalled indefinitely by the Trump administration, which has revoked access to sensitive documents that had been granted under former President Joe Biden.


The US Senate Finance Committee began its inspection of Epstein’s financial history in 2022, when ranking member Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) discovered Wall Street executive and Trump ally Leon Black vastly overpaid Epstein for tax and estate planning services. Further digging revealed that Black had reached a $65 million settlement agreement in 2023 with the US Virgin Islands — home to Epstein’s infamous enclave — in exchange for immunity from an Epstein-related prosecution. Immunity was granted despite prosecutors’ conclusion that “Epstein used the money Black paid him to partially fund his operations in the Virgin Islands.”

[ShawkFactory]

:lol

I imagine there will be some crickets here.

[Off the Court]

Arrow #2,345,678 that points to Trump being guilty.

He has already been busy try to paint the smoking gun with "The Democrats put it in there!".

Only the most extreme of MAGA will buy into his conspiracy theories this time around.

[SouBeachTalents]

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guys been talked about for years, are people still talking about this guy, this creep. That is unbelievable.

[j3lademaster]

Arrow #2,345,678 that points to Trump being guilty.

He has already been busy try to paint the smoking gun with "The Democrats put it in there!".

Only the most extreme of MAGA will buy into his conspiracy theories this time around.
I don’t think he’ll lose any maga. If he loses anyone, it’d be 18-29 year olds who were on the fence and just tired of the bs from the dems.

[warriorfan]

I don’t think he’ll lose any maga. If he loses anyone, it’d be 18-29 year olds who were on the fence and just tired of the bs from the dems.

Thank you for your expert geopolitical analysis chang. You can go back to China now.

[Jasper]

Epstein stolen trumps people ...


melonia has smile on face when name is brought up...

[Baller234]

Arrow #2,345,678 that points to Trump being guilty.

He has already been busy try to paint the smoking gun with "The Democrats put it in there!".

Only the most extreme of MAGA will buy into his conspiracy theories this time around.

No one is buying it. Clearly he's hiding something. We just don't care. Not really anyway.

I know a lot of Trumpers. No one really cares about the Epstein stuff. You'd be surprised at how many people don't even follow that kind of thing and have barely even a surface level understanding of it.

Now if it comes out he's a child fukker and he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then it might be a different story. But until then I think people understand that there are bigger forces at play and that if Trump is going to this length to cover it up there could very well be good reason.

Everyone here is always speculating that the most powerful people on Earth are implicated, okay so then obviously Trump is trying not to poke the bear then. This is a guy who already survived one assassination attempt.

Long story short, if Trump wins on the other issues then nobody is going give a flying f about Epstein in the long run. It's sick, especially since him and his camp are the ones who got everyone excited, but it is what it is.

What are we supposed to do? Impeach Trump over hearsay and speculation and replace him with Vance? Declare our pronouns and join team blue?

:oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

If Trump is hiding anything, it's probably that a ton of his friends are on that list and he's just trying to protect them.

But again, the Democrats had access to this. If they wanted to bury Trump, they would have done so prior to him getting elected again. The Dems had nothing on Trump cause there is nothing on Trump.

[Jasper]

sign seen in Oklahoma : TRUMP FVCKS KIDS

[diamenz]

No one is buying it. Clearly he's hiding something. We just don't care. Not really anyway.

I know a lot of Trumpers. No one really cares about the Epstein stuff. You'd be surprised at how many people don't even follow that kind of thing and have barely even a surface level understanding of it.

Now if it comes out he's a child fukker and he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then it might be a different story. But until then I think people understand that there are bigger forces at play and that if Trump is going to this length to cover it up there could very well be good reason.

Everyone here is always speculating that the most powerful people on Earth are implicated, okay so then obviously Trump is trying not to poke the bear then. This is a guy who already survived one assassination attempt.

Long story short, if Trump wins on the other issues then nobody is going give a flying f about Epstein in the long run. It's sick, especially since him and his camp are the ones who got everyone excited, but it is what it is.

What are we supposed to do? Impeach Trump over hearsay and speculation and replace him with Vance? Declare our pronouns and join team blue?

:oldlol:

brother. donald trump is covering up for pedophiles. he's covering up a pedophile sex ring involving hundreds, if not a thousand or god knows how many american girls. he's covering up an evil that i can't even begin to fathom.

i don't understand how this can't be a red line for even the staunchest trump supporter. at the same time he patronizes you as if you were a complete fool telling you to move on, nothing to see here. look, support the domestic policy, fine. immigration, the economy but how can you attempt to make excuses, rationalize and stand behind this guy at this point? it's astounding. anything short of going straight nuclear on him over this issue and cutting all ties with him is just insanity to me. snap out of it.

[highwhey]

No one is buying it. Clearly he's hiding something. We just don't care. Not really anyway.

I know a lot of Trumpers. No one really cares about the Epstein stuff. You'd be surprised at how many people don't even follow that kind of thing and have barely even a surface level understanding of it.

Now if it comes out he's a child fukker and he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then it might be a different story. But until then I think people understand that there are bigger forces at play and that if Trump is going to this length to cover it up there could very well be good reason.

Everyone here is always speculating that the most powerful people on Earth are implicated, okay so then obviously Trump is trying not to poke the bear then. This is a guy who already survived one assassination attempt.

Long story short, if Trump wins on the other issues then nobody is going give a flying f about Epstein in the long run. It's sick, especially since him and his camp are the ones who got everyone excited, but it is what it is.

What are we supposed to do? Impeach Trump over hearsay and speculation and replace him with Vance? Declare our pronouns and join team blue?

:oldlol:

u dont care bc you're a pdf file like trump and epstein

[Baller234]

brother. donald trump is covering up for pedophiles. he's covering up a pedophile sex ring involving hundreds, if not a thousand or god knows how many american girls. he's covering up an evil that i can't even begin to fathom.

i don't understand how this can't be a red line for even the staunchest trump supporter. at the same time he patronizes you as if you were a complete fool telling you to move on, nothing to see here. look, support the domestic policy, fine. immigration, the economy but how can you attempt to make excuses, rationalize and stand behind this guy at this point? it's astounding. anything short of going straight nuclear on him over this issue and cutting all ties with him is just insanity to me. snap out of it.

So Donald Trump should release information that could have catastrophic political fallout and possibly even jeopardize his own life?

And again I ask, what do you mean cut ties? What does that look like? Be specific.

[j3lademaster]

Baller when it’s Obama:

In Indonesia he went by BARRY! What else is he hiding? He must be a gay pedo.

Baller when it’s Trump:

Were you actually in the room videotaping as Trump raped the 13 year old?

Very consistent.

[diamenz]

So Donald Trump should release information that could have catastrophic political fallout and possibly even jeopardize his own life?

And again I ask, what do you mean cut ties? What does that look like? Be specific.

that's right. if trump had even an ounce of integrity he'd step up as a man, the alpha male that he and all of his base claims him to be and expose this pedophelia sex ring, political fallout be damned. cement his legacy in the history books with a bang. swamp drained. you're god damn right.

jeopardize his own life? you bring that up, constantly as of late. you're clutching onto that theory for dear life, aren't you? this is exactly what i mean. it's certainly a possibility but above anything it's just another excuse for his supporters to rationalize things. i'm not willing to give him that benefit of the doubt.

emotional involvement in politicians is probably one of the unhealthiest vices one can have. it clouds your thinking and your judgement. if you want to rationalize your way through this, that's your cross to bear. you've said time and time again that trump is your president and not your god. i'm not willing to stick my neck out and give a benefit of the doubt so grand on a issue like this.

in regard to cutting ties, reread my op.

[Baller234]

that's right. if trump had even an ounce of integrity he'd step up as a man, the alpha male that he and all of his base claims him to be and expose this pedophelia sex ring, political fallout be damned. cement his legacy in the history books with a bang. swamp drained. you're god damn right.

jeopardize his own life? you bring that up, constantly as of late. you're clutching onto that theory for dear life, aren't you? this is exactly what i mean. it's certainly a possibility but above anything it's just another excuse for his supporters to rationalize things. i'm not willing to give him that benefit of the doubt.

Sorry but to expect the man to start an all out war with the most powerful people on Earth and risk his own life is kind of crazy. Why tf would he do that? Are you saying if you had the power to punish those involved you would lay down your own life? :oldlol:

This isn't some crazy theory. YOU guys are the ones saying that all the world's most powerful leaders and puppet masters are implicated in this. That means if Trump were to ever seriously release everything, the ramification could be severe. He would be forcing the hand of extremely powerful people. Trump has already survived multiple murder attempts and it's been shown that he could be touched if need be.


emotional involvement in politicians is probably one of the unhealthiest vices one can have. it clouds your thinking and your judgement. if you want to rationalize your way through this, that's your cross to bear. you've said time and time again that trump is your president and not your god. i'm not willing to stick my neck out and give a benefit of the doubt so grand on a issue like this.

in regard to cutting ties, reread my op.

This is nonsense.

You're right. Trump is not my god. I know he's a liar. I know he's a bullshitter. That's why I didn't get vaccinated even though he told me I should. And I already made it perfectly clear that if it were proven that he was a child diddler I would have no problem giving him the boot and convicting him. Not sure what else you guys want.

The support for the MAGA agenda continues regardless. And unless you can prove what you're accusing him of, so does our support for Orange Face. If you can't accept that I don't know what to tell you. You're innocent unless proven guilty.

[Patrick Chewing]

sign seen in Oklahoma : TRUMP FVCKS KIDS


Sign seen in Wisconsin: Local man Jasper fvcks his sister

[diamenz]

Sorry but to expect the man to start an all out war with the most powerful people on Earth and risk his own life is kind of crazy. Why tf would he do that? Are you saying if you had the power to punish those involved you would lay down your own life? :oldlol:

This isn't some crazy theory. YOU guys are the ones saying that all the world's most powerful leaders and puppet masters are implicated in this. That means if Trump were to ever seriously release everything, the ramification could be severe. He would be forcing the hand of extremely powerful people. Trump has already survived multiple murder attempts and it's been shown that he could be touched if need be.



This is nonsense.

You're right. Trump is not my god. I know he's a liar. I know he's a bullshitter. That's why I didn't get vaccinated even though he told me I should. And I already made it perfectly clear that if it were proven that he was a child diddler I would have no problem giving him the boot and convicting him. Not sure what else you guys want.

The support for the MAGA agenda continues regardless. And unless you can prove what you're accusing him of, so does our support for Orange Face. If you can't accept that I don't know what to tell you. You're innocent unless proven guilty.

i can understand the point you're making in your first couple of paragraphs but i'm not so sympathetic.

the rest of your post is just rationalizing. whatever, enjoy your uniparty president.

[Baller234]

i can understand the point you're making in your first couple of paragraphs but i'm not so sympathetic.

the rest of your post is just rationalizing. whatever, enjoy your uniparty president.

Did you or did not insinuate that some of the most powerful people in the world are implicated in those files?

[Overdrive]

Sorry but to expect the man to start an all out war with the most powerful people on Earth and risk his own life is kind of crazy.

Yes, that's what draining the swamp would actually mean. The rest is just rationalizing that you support a guy who at best is protecting a pedo ring. A thing you'd cry over all day if it was a dem president acting like that.

[Baller234]

Yes, that's what draining the swamp would actually mean. The rest is just rationalizing that you support a guy who at best is protecting a pedo ring. A thing you'd cry over all day if it was a dem president acting like that.

:oldlol:

Lmao, you hate Orange Face down to the very fiber of your being. When he survived the assassination attempt in Butler you were probably punching air.

Now you're demanding he jump on a grenade and sacrifice his own life, not to mention plummet the country into all sorts of chaos and god knows what else. And for what? You obviously don't care about punishing child abusers because you were quiet as a mouse all throughout Biden's term.

The nerve. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

P-p-p-please stop insulting my hero :cry:
:roll:

[Overdrive]

:oldlol:

Lmao, you hate Orange Face down to the very fiber of your being. When he survived the assassination attempt in Butler you were probably punching air.

Now you're demanding he jump on a grenade and sacrifice his own life, not to mention plummet the country into all sorts of chaos and god knows what else. And for what? You obviously don't care about punishing child abusers because you were quiet as a mouse all throughout Biden's term.

The nerve. :oldlol:

You're bringing up the same argument for just anybody that doesn't love your dear pedo leader. Get something new IDGAF about Biden and his corp shill dems. They can rot in hell for all I care if there was one.

And yes Trump, if he was what you portrayed him as being just a few weeks ago, would jump on that grenate that you just make up in your mind to excuse his lying, hypocritical behaviour to - in reality - justify yourself for supporting such a guy, who you'd condamn if it was a dem. Fine, but a pretty good look at both Trump's and your character.

[RRR3]

You're bringing up the same argument for just anybody that doesn't love your dear pedo leader. Get something new IDGAF about Biden and his corp shill dems. They can rot in hell for all I care if there was one.

And yes Trump, if he was what you portrayed him as being just a few weeks ago, would jump on that grenate that you just make up in your mind to excuse his lying, hypocritical behaviour to - in reality - justify yourself for supporting such a guy, who you'd condamn if it was a dem. Fine, but a pretty good look at both Trump's and your character.
"Duhhhhh yer on team blue admit it bro"

Guarantee that's his response. Poor guy can't process the fact that people besides Democrats dislike Trump :(

[TheMan]

No one is buying it. Clearly he's hiding something. We just don't care. Not really anyway.

I know a lot of Trumpers. No one really cares about the Epstein stuff. You'd be surprised at how many people don't even follow that kind of thing and have barely even a surface level understanding of it.

Now if it comes out he's a child fukker and he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then it might be a different story. But until then I think people understand that there are bigger forces at play and that if Trump is going to this length to cover it up there could very well be good reason.

Everyone here is always speculating that the most powerful people on Earth are implicated, okay so then obviously Trump is trying not to poke the bear then. This is a guy who already survived one assassination attempt.

Long story short, if Trump wins on the other issues then nobody is going give a flying f about Epstein in the long run. It's sick, especially since him and his camp are the ones who got everyone excited, but it is what it is.

What are we supposed to do? Impeach Trump over hearsay and speculation and replace him with Vance? Declare our pronouns and join team blue?

:oldlol:

The mental gymnastics you go through to clear Trump of any wrongdoing is downright pathetic. Trump admitted Epstein was running his sex trafficking through Mar a Lago, they shared gfs, those two are perverts, a woman claimed Trump and Epstein raped her as an underaged teen but dropped the charges because she was getting death threats...if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

Trump is a degenerate, you and the other MAGA idiots fell for his lies. It's that simple.

[TheMan]

If Trump is hiding anything, it's probably that a ton of his friends are on that list and he's just trying to protect them.

But again, the Democrats had access to this. If they wanted to bury Trump, they would have done so prior to him getting elected again. The Dems had nothing on Trump cause there is nothing on Trump.

The Democrats are just as pathetic, they knew Clinton was in the files that's why they didn't pursue it. I don't GAF which celebrities, businessmen or politicians are in the files, if they were raping kids, they should face the consequences but obviously Trump was partaking in those same activities, that's why he ain't releasing them or Jizzlaine will lie and exonerate Trump and she will be given a lighter sentence or outright pardoned. When that happens, you and Bawler will be here getting bent out of shape trying to convince us that Trump isn't a pervert himself. Useful idiots.

[Bill Gates]

The ones still defending Trump are in a cult. I mean, if a holocaust of pedophilia isn't your dream breaker? Nothing is.

[Overdrive]

The Democrats are just as pathetic, they knew Clinton was in the files that's why they didn't pursue it. I don't GAF which celebrities, businessmen or politicians are in the files, if they were raping kids, they should face the consequences but obviously Trump was partaking in those same activities, that's why he ain't releasing them or Jizzlaine will lie and exonerate Trump and she will be given a lighter sentence or outright pardoned. When that happens, you and Bawler will be here getting bent out of shape trying to convince us that Trump isn't a pervert himself. Useful idiots.

Exactly. **** anyone that did partake and **** anyone that tries to cover up. There's no one that's excusable, but the justifications for Trump keep coming in. That's more telling about these ppl than it's about Trump. Everyone knew who he was beforehand, but the MAGAs kept ignoring it, because immigration and economy(whole Trump is an economic disaster).

[Doomsday Dallas]

Trump is a degenerate, you and the other MAGA idiots fell for his lies. It's that simple.




it's not that simple.

$hit like this just doesn't happen by chance... There's some political theater going on here. Globalist Psychological Operation type-$hit.

Anytime you get a Mossad agent involved, nothing is what it seems.



Trump is the antichrist, so I don't put anything past him.... but this type of exposure is not by accident, it's done purposefully for reasons above our comprehension.



None of this is happening by chance. It's all part of the script dude.... and the end result does not make America Great Again for anybody.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WY5gDBR0gM

[Patrick Chewing]

The ones still defending Trump are in a cult. I mean, if a holocaust of pedophilia isn't your dream breaker? Nothing is.

This is the dumbest thing that you people keep saying. Why would Trump lose his base? Why would we stop defending him? There has been no evidence linking him to anything you Democrats have accused him of. Nothing. It's been witch-hunt after witch-hunt and you all have failed miserably each and every time.

[Baller234]

You're all full of shit.

I already said that that if Trump diddled kids you're free to do what you want and hold him accountable under the law. Apparently that is not good enough for you.

Meanwhile you all knew about Ashley's diary and you all knew the highest people in government were covering for Epstein, and you all knew that the democrats were involved.

Did YOU guys break allegiance? Oh that's right, you simped for Brandon and then you simped for The Cackler.

So stfu with your moral righteousness. You're all phony liars. Nobody believes you except the other fa9s in your gay little circle.

[Baller234]

The Democrats are just as pathetic, they knew Clinton was in the files that's why they didn't pursue it. I don't GAF which celebrities, businessmen or politicians are in the files, if they were raping kids, they should face the consequences but obviously Trump was partaking in those same activities, that's why he ain't releasing them or Jizzlaine will lie and exonerate Trump and she will be given a lighter sentence or outright pardoned. When that happens, you and Bawler will be here getting bent out of shape trying to convince us that Trump isn't a pervert himself. Useful idiots.

"They should have given up Clinton..."

Tell me which brave soul on the democrats was willing to do that. We all know what happens when you cross a Clinton.

Fact is you said NOTHING while this was all going on. Not once did you EVER call for more transparency on this issue and you took ZERO issue with Brandon being silent on it.

[Bill Gates]

Why would we stop defending him? There has been no evidence linking him to anything.
really? :oldlol:

Cult

[Baller234]

really? :oldlol:

Cult

You don't have evidence. And even if you did, it would be a moot point because you never stopped simping for Brandon.

[Bill Gates]

The evidence is overwhelming at this point. Trump has more or less already confessed and is now in the process of trying to excuse it with conspiracy theories. It is what he did when he lost to Biden, and his base bought into it then, so in his mind they'll keep buying that.

[Patrick Chewing]

really? :oldlol:

Cult

What evidence then? Show us.

[Patrick Chewing]

The evidence is overwhelming at this point. Trump has more or less already confessed and is now in the process of trying to excuse it with conspiracy theories. It is what he did when he lost to Biden, and his base bought into it then, so in his mind they'll keep buying that.

Overwhelming evidence now? You sound like Adam Schiff who had overwhelming evidence of Russian collusion but in reality had nothing.

[ShawkFactory]

Overwhelming evidence now? You sound like Adam Schiff who had overwhelming evidence of Russian collusion but in reality had nothing.

After part of his running platform being the release the Epstein files, undoubtedly to stick it to Biden and the Clintons (or just a straight up lie to rile up support from his base), his administration is now blocking investigations into the matter.

You don't find that incredibly hypocritical at best, but incredibly sus at worst? No, there is not direct evidence at this point and I'm not going to straight up say he's guilty like some others. BUT...this is clearly a HUGE eyebrow raiser.

You can separate other policies and how he makes you feel in general, but the handling of this situation in particular has been a huge flop on the part of his administration.

[Baller234]

After part of his running platform being the release the Epstein files, undoubtedly to stick it to Biden and the Clintons (or just a straight up lie to rile up support from his base), his administration is now blocking investigations into the matter.

You don't find that incredibly hypocritical at best, but incredibly sus at worst? No, there is not direct evidence at this point and I'm not going to straight up say he's guilty like some others. BUT...this is clearly a HUGE eyebrow raiser.

You can separate other policies and how he makes you feel in general, but the handling of this situation in particular has been a huge flop on the part of his administration.

Obviously it's sus, and obviously he's trying to throw water on the fire.

There could be a lot of reasons for that. That's all we're saying. Him being a kiddy diddler is just one of many.

[Overdrive]

You're all full of shit.

I already said that that if Trump diddled kids you're free to do what you want and hold him accountable under the law. Apparently that is not good enough for you.

Meanwhile you all knew about Ashley's diary and you all knew the highest people in government were covering for Epstein, and you all knew that the democrats were involved.

Did YOU guys break allegiance? Oh that's right, you simped for Brandon and then you simped for The Cackler.

So stfu with your moral righteousness. You're all phony liars. Nobody believes you except the other fa9s in your gay little circle.

No, **** Biden and investigate into his immoral behaviour towards his family. Just like **** all the politicians frawing profit from insider trading.


This is the dumbest thing that you people keep saying. Why would Trump lose his base? Why would we stop defending him? There has been no evidence linking him to anything you Democrats have accused him of. Nothing. It's been witch-hunt after witch-hunt and you all have failed miserably each and every time.

You guys kept tying several democratic politicians and prominent progressives to Epstein and linked them to pedophilia. Now Trump is at best covering up for those pedos or is it just a nothingburger all of a sudden?

[ShawkFactory]

Obviously it's sus, and obviously he's trying to throw water on the fire.

There could be a lot of reasons for that. That's all we're saying. Him being a kiddy diddler is just one of many.

Right, and that's fair.

Though this whole situation obviously involves kiddy diddling and is a very serious matter and managing it like this has been piss poor. It deserves real criticism, and I think saying that doesn't mean I have TDS like some would write it off as.

[Bill Gates]

What evidence then? Show us.

Evidence is not proof and there is loads of it, what the OP posted in this thread is evidence.

Him being best buddies with Epstein is evidence. Him going out of his way to hide the files is evidence. Elon Musk saying that Trump is listed is evidence. The women claiming he abused them is evidence. Various comments he has made from the past during beauty events and whatnot is evidence.

There is enough there for people to make the same assumptions they make about OJ Simpson.

[Overdrive]

Obviously it's sus, and obviously he's trying to throw water on the fire.

There could be a lot of reasons for that. That's all we're saying. Him being a kiddy diddler is just one of many.

If Epstein had clients for his pedobusiness there aren't many reasons. Only two. Either he was a client or he's protecting them. The motives for the latter don't even matter.

[Baller234]

Right, and that's fair.

Though this whole situation obviously involves kiddy diddling and is a very serious matter and managing it like this has been piss poor. It deserves real criticism, and I think saying that doesn't mean I have TDS like some would write it off as.

I never said it wasn't fair to criticize Trump over this. This is the biggest political blunder he's ever made. If he played his cards differently then no one would even be talking about Esptein right now. It's an extremely uncharacteristic move by him, that's why I'm so skeptical of his involvement.

But, at the same time, the Epstein stuff was not the issue I cared about most when voting for Trump.

[Bill Gates]

Aside from any guilt, the ENTIRE APPEAL to Donald Trump was that he was outsider to expose it all for us. Drain the Swamp. Expose the Deep State. Expose the "fake news". Release the conspiracies. Tell it to us like it is, etc.

[highwhey]

From Drain the Swamp to “he’s afraid for his life”.

Very alpha. #Winning

[Baller234]

If Epstein had clients for his pedobusiness there aren't many reasons. Only two. Either he was a client or he's protecting them. The motives for the latter don't even matter.

Of course they do.

Let's look at Trump options:

- Continue to kick ass in the WH and try to futher the MAGA agenda

- Make an immediate an enemy out of all the most powerful people in the world (including Israeli blackmailers as you guys are claiming), expose their whole charade, force their backs against the wall and give them zero reason not to kill you.

Hmmm... tough choice.

[Baller234]

From Drain the Swamp to “he’s afraid for his life”.

Very alpha. #Winning

Not just afraid for his life, but avoiding an all out nuclear war. It would probably bring the whole house down. You know that.

Admit that's your real intention then. You're just as an arsonist that wants to see the whole thing burn down, especially if Trump goes down with it.

[Bill Gates]

Not just afraid for his life, but avoiding an all out nuclear war. It would probably bring the whole house down. You know that.

Admit that's your real intention then. You're just as an arsonist that wants to see the whole thing burn down, especially if Trump goes down with it.

How so? :oldlol:

This is a lie you are telling yourself to excuse Trump.

We already believe that the Trump, the most powerful man in the world, is a pedophile, and there is no nuclear war.

He is 80 years old on top of that and near the end of the rope anyway.

[Baller234]

How so? :oldlol:

This is a lie you are telling yourself to excuse Trump.

We already believe that the Trump, the most powerful man in the world, is a pedophile, and there is no nuclear war.

He is 80 years old on top of that and near the end of the rope anyway.

So if Trump releases the info. Exposes all the pedos, all the traffickers, all the blackmailers... you don't think there's going to be fallout?

[Bill Gates]

So if Trump releases the info. Exposes all the pedos, all the traffickers, all the blackmailers... you don't think there's going to be fallout?

Not for us, no. Within themselves sure.

The most notable links in all this outside of Trump are Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew. Anyone outside of the US would just deny. I mean, what exactly are you imagining here? The President of Israel is listed and then when that is exposed he decides to nuke us? :oldlol: He would simply deny it or ignore it.

[Overdrive]

Of course they do.

Let's look at Trump options:

- Continue to kick ass in the WH and try to futher the MAGA agenda

- Make an immediate an enemy out of all the most powerful people in the world (including Israeli blackmailers as you guys are claiming), expose their whole charade, force their backs against the wall and give them zero reason not to kill you.

Hmmm... tough choice.

I'm not a conspiracy nut that follows any political storyline, because it fits and hurts the "enemy". There could just not be a list and anything Trump and Bondi promissed was a lie and he's actually honest rn. I doubt he'd be in bigger danger upon revealing anything than he's now.

What contradicting point 1 is that he's actually alienating alot of his base. Directly by calling them stupid, not following through on promisses while financially hurting them. One of the promisses was to make an enemy out of the most powerful people. He promissed to drain the swamp, promissed to crack down on the elites, uncover the deepstate. Now that a personal involvement is possible it's logicsl that he can't do that? Why did anyone believe that in the first place?

[Overdrive]

Not just afraid for his life, but avoiding an all out nuclear war. It would probably bring the whole house down. You know that.

Admit that's your real intention then. You're just as an arsonist that wants to see the whole thing burn down, especially if Trump goes down with it.

And while the MAGAs why crying for releasing the list it wouldn't have brought the house down? You're drawing a scenario that wouldn't happen even if every president or prime minister of every country would be on the Epstein list.

The reason for your whole argumentation is that you'd be ashamed you fell for a pedo if Trump's on the list. Thst's all.

[Baller234]

And while the MAGAs why crying for releasing the list it wouldn't have brought the house down? You're drawing a scenario that wouldn't happen even if every president or prime minister of every country would be on the Epstein list.

The reason for your whole argumentation is that you'd be ashamed you fell for a pedo if Trump's on the list. Thst's all.

What would I have to feel shame for? I never once voted for Trump because I thought he was such a great human being.

That's how you guys vote. I voted for his policies.

[highwhey]

So if Trump releases the info. Exposes all the pedos, all the traffickers, all the blackmailers... you don't think there's going to be fallout?

That’s why he has the entirety of the country at his disposal. Doesn’t seem like he cares for backlash by using ICe against immigrants and trying to overstep with state and municipalities in California.

The guy has a strong history of poking the hornets nest. Give me a break.

[Baller234]

Not for us, no. Within themselves sure.

The most notable links in all this outside of Trump are Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew. Anyone outside of the US would just deny. I mean, what exactly are you imagining here? The President of Israel is listed and then when that is exposed he decides to nuke us? :oldlol: He would simply deny it or ignore it.

You don't think an all out nuclear political war would have a ripple effect for us? At the very least it would be total chaos and mayhem.

Not to mention there would be all sorts of politicians getting killed left and right. It would be a total shit show.

Personally I could understand why Trump would want to avoid all that. He too would probably be on the chopping block. He's already survived an attempt on his life.

[Bill Gates]

You don't think an all out nuclear political war would have a ripple effect for us? At the very least it would be total chaos and mayhem.

Not to mention there would be all sorts of politicians getting killed left and right. It would be a total shit show.

Personally I could understand why Trump would want to avoid all that. He too would probably be on the chopping block. He's already survived an attempt on his life.

It would have a positive ripple effect for us and we should want them to kill each other, although that is not at all what would happen. What would happen is Trump being impeached and JD Vance, who is 100% innocent in all of this, would be the new POTUS. The policies that you voted for and love so much would remain intact.

[Baller234]

It would have a positive ripple effect for us and we should want them to kill each other, although that is not at all what would happen. What would happen is Trump being impeached and JD Vance, who is 100% innocent in all of this, would be the new POTUS. The policies that you voted for and love so much would remain intact.

It would cause unrest and upset the stable order.

But like I already said countless times, I am more than willing to install Vance if it turns out that Trump was involved.

[Bill Gates]

It would cause unrest and upset the stable order.

But like I already said countless times, I am more than willing to install Vance if it turns out that Trump was involved.
Trump being found guilty and being impeached would actually have an extremely positive effect on the political divide within the US. There would be less unrest. We would finally start to heal a bit.

[Baller234]

Trump being found guilty and being impeached would actually have an extremely positive effect on the political divide within the US. There would be less unrest. We would finally start to heal a bit.

Lol okay pal.

If Trump goes down, so do all of your woke idols that you put on a pedestal. :oldlol:

[TheMan]

What would I have to feel shame for? I never once voted for Trump because I thought he was such a great human being.

That's how you guys vote. I voted for his policies.

Lol, his policies are ass. All polls now show him underwater in every policy issue, even immigration :roll:

What great policies are you talking about? Serious question. Immigration? Apparently the American people aren't cool with deporting grandma and shipping her off to El Salvador without due process. Economy? Things are only getting more expensive, mostly due to his stupid tariffs war vs the world that hasn't netted any tangible results other than push more countries to make trade deals with China. National debt? It's only gotten worse with more tax cuts for those who don't need it, kicking out millions from Medicare and Medicaid, Meals on Wheels, SNAP, cutting cancer research, firing thousands of vets who were federal employees, cutting funding for the National Weather Service, the blood of little kids who died during those Texas floods are on Trump and DOGE's hands, acting like a warmonger when he said he'd be the peace candidate :oldlol: and refusing to reign in that genocidal maniac Netanyahu, meanwhile the war in Ukraine continues, he said he would solve it in his first day...

No wonder a majority of Americans reject his fat ass now, he's been nothing short of a disaster.

[Baller234]

Lol, his policies are ass. All polls now show him underwater in every policy issue, even immigration :roll:

What great policies are you talking about? Serious question. Immigration? Apparently the American people aren't cool with deporting grandma and shipping her off to El Salvador without due process. Economy? Things are only getting more expensive, mostly due to his stupid tariffs war vs the world that hasn't netted any tangible results other than push more countries to make trade deals with China. National debt? It's only gotten worse with more tax cuts for those who don't need it, kicking out millions from Medicare and Medicaid, Meals on Wheels, SNAP, cutting cancer research, firing thousands of vets who were federal employees, cutting funding for the National Weather Service, the blood of little kids who died during those Texas floods are on Trump and DOGE's hands, acting like a warmonger when he said he'd be the peace candidate :oldlol: and refusing to reign in that genocidal maniac Netanyahu, meanwhile the war in Ukraine continues, he said he would solve it in his first day...

No wonder a majority of Americans reject his fat ass now, he's been nothing short of a disaster.

Left leaning CNN claims that Trump's approval ratings are rock solid.

https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1945880475756548324


It's not heavenly to lie, especially for someone who claims to be a god-fearing individual such as yourself.

[Bill Gates]

AI -


How many people within the FBI have access to the Epstein files?




As of July 2025, information suggests that a significant number of FBI personnel have been involved in reviewing and processing the Jeffrey Epstein files, which contain a large volume of sensitive material, including images and videos of child abuse.

Recent reports, notably from July 2025, indicate that approximately 1,000 FBI personnel, potentially including those who typically focus on national security, were assigned to review the roughly 100,000 documents related to Epstein.

This large-scale effort was prompted by a push to make the files public, and there are allegations of a chaotic process with constantly changing instructions and a high volume of agents spending more time waiting for instructions than reviewing files.

Some sources suggest that usual permission restrictions on access to these files may not have been in place during this period, potentially leaving them accessible to a wider group of people within the relevant division than normal.

It's important to note that the FBI and the Department of Justice have stated they have conducted a thorough review of the files and that further disclosure of information may not be warranted.




Lots of people out there are walking around with the truth. Too many to pay off. Too many to threaten.

The real chaos and mayhem over this issue? Is within the FBI.

[TheMan]

Left leaning CNN claims that Trump's approval ratings are rock solid.

https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1945880475756548324


It's not heavenly to lie, especially for someone who claims to be a god-fearing individual such as yourself.

You really do live in an alternate reality :roll:


WASHINGTON, July 29 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s approval rating dropped one percentage point to 40%, the lowest level of his second term in office, as Americans remained concerned about his handling of the economy and immigration, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.
The three-day poll, which closed on Monday, surveyed 1,023 U.S. adults nationwide and had a margin of error of 3 percentage points. It showed a nation deeply polarized over Trump, with 83% of Republicans and just 3% of Democrats approving of his performance. About one-third of independents approved.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-approval-rating-sinks-40-lowest-his-term-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-07-29/

[Baller234]

You really do live in an alternate reality :roll:



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-approval-rating-sinks-40-lowest-his-term-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-07-29/

When right leaning cable news and left leaning cable news agree on something, it's probably true.

The world is not your gay little circle.

[TheMan]

When right leaning cable news and left leaning cable news agree on something, it's probably true.

The world is not your gay little circle.

Seething lol

[Baller234]

Seething lol

You shouldn't lie.

[diamenz]

You don't think an all out nuclear political war would have a ripple effect for us? At the very least it would be total chaos and mayhem.



a political war amongst whom exactly? the populist left and right are more united on this issue than anything i can recall in the recent past. our concerns over elite power and accountability are and have been at the forefront and this epstein fiasco only amplifies it ten fold. the inexplicable leniency on display over this issue by now successive administrations just further exposes the elite protection racket that exists and we still don't know the extent of which it spans. the chaos and mayhem you speak of would be amongst everyone in washington and it's periphery that are implicated in all of this. let her *ucking rip.

[Bill Gates]

Baller has created this new excuse to justify Trump, that the fallout would be so great that it would send the world into the chaos. And with this new line of thinking, Baller has essentially made himself the "Deep State" :oldlol:

[j3lademaster]

a political war amongst whom exactly? the populist left and right are more united on this issue than anything i can recall in the recent past. our concerns over elite power and accountability are and have been at the forefront and this epstein fiasco only amplifies it ten fold. the inexplicable leniency on display over this issue by now successive administrations just further exposes the elite protection racket that exists and we still don't know the extent of which it spans. the chaos and mayhem you speak of would be amongst everyone in washington and it's periphery that are implicated in all of this. let her *ucking rip.They're united on a lot of things. Pro billionaire, pro corporations, pro Israel, etc. The only difference is how much they have to pander to their base, and the battle is really over who gets to be the one kissing billionaire ass, and thus who the billionaires and corporations "owe one" to. We know Corporate dems fvck with Israel, too, but more of the left supports Palestine so they definitely can't run on that and stay mostly quiet. Clinton, Obama, etc fvk with Trump before they fvck with someone like Bernie. It's pretty obvious.

[Hey Yo]

That’s why he has the entirety of the country at his disposal. Doesn’t seem like he cares for backlash by using ICe against immigrants and trying to overstep with state and municipalities in California.

The guy has a strong history of poking the hornets nest. Give me a break.

ILLEGAL immigrants who commit major felonies. Funny how you're so convinced Trump's guilty and call him a pedo but perfectly fine with your boys trafficking children across both ends of the country.

Why is that? Why have their backs, chico?

[Baller234]

Baller has created this new excuse to justify Trump, that the fallout would be so great that it would send the world into the chaos. And with this new line of thinking, Baller has essentially made himself the "Deep State" :oldlol:

I already explained my case and laid out the numerous possibilities. If you can't accept that then I don't know what to tell you.

But since you want to talk about "excuses", what was your excuse for 4 years? How many times during Brandon's term did you post on this forum and demand the Epstein files be unsealed? You can make whatever accusations you want. You can go wherever your imagination takes you. It still doesn't change the fact that this was happening for several years and you were perfectly fine with it because you thought it would hurt democrats.

You have absolutely zero leg to stand on here. You just started caring about this 5 minutes ago. If your side had gotten it's way and The Cackler had won, we would not even talking about Epstein now.

You really shouldn't throw stones.

[RRR3]

Who has the worst case of Trump Devotion Syndrome, Bawler, Hey Yo or Fatrick?

[Baller234]

a political war amongst whom exactly? the populist left and right are more united on this issue than anything i can recall in the recent past. our concerns over elite power and accountability are and have been at the forefront and this epstein fiasco only amplifies it ten fold. the inexplicable leniency on display over this issue by now successive administrations just further exposes the elite protection racket that exists and we still don't know the extent of which it spans. the chaos and mayhem you speak of would be amongst everyone in washington and it's periphery that are implicated in all of this. let her *ucking rip.

The populist left? :oldlol:

I'm talking about a nuclear war behind the scenes. You're the one who keeps insisting that the most powerful people on Earth are implicated. Okay so that means there are literally a million different reasons why Trump would think it's better to keep that stuff hidden, if only out of self preservation.

If you want to hold that against him then by all means. For me personally the Epstein files were nowhere close to being a top issue when I voted for him. If he delivers on the big key issues but we never learn the full truth about Epstein, I could live with that. It would be a stain on his resume and the questions will always linger but I don't really care.

And believe me, neither does the average person.

[Baller234]

Who has the worst case of Trump Devotion Syndrome, Bawler, Hey Yo or Fatrick?

Only one of us is vaccinated because of our blind loyalty and faith to a political party, and it's not me.

You worship democrats so much you signed up willingly for an experimental government vaccine. The so called anarchist that hates government and doesn't trust politicians.

I would put the over/under with you at about 3.5 shots.

[RRR3]

if Trump personally killed Bawler’s family he would say they deserved it.

[highwhey]

if Trump personally killed Bawler’s family he would say they deserved it.

he had to! he feared for his life and the political outfall!

[Baller234]

if Trump personally killed Bawler’s family he would say they deserved it.

How come only one of us is vaccinated then?

Why did you sign up for the Brandon vaccine so many times if you're not the one in the cult?

[RRR3]

How come only one of us is vaccinated then?

Why did you sign up for the Brandon vaccine so many times if you're not the one in the cult?
I legit don’t think I’ve ever told you I’m vaccinated but even if I had you’re also so senile you forgot it’s Trump who was president for the vaccine developing.


I notice you didn’t deny you’d try and justify Trump killing your family :lol. Instead try to deflect because deep down you know I’m right

[Baller234]

3tard you hate Orange Face with so much blind fury and passion. Any admiration or respect that's given to Trump from posters here on the right pales in comparison to your existential devotion to hating him.

You hate Donald Trump and his supporters so much, that you signed up for multiple doses of an experimental government vaccine just to prove it. If I showed even a fraction of that kind of devotion, I would be vaccinated. Trump is the one who pushed it first and attached his name to it and he's the one who said how wonderful it was.

Meanwhile you're a healthy young man and you stuck a needle in your arm to combat a virus with a 99.98% survival rate, all because your cult masters told you to.

There is no getting over that.

[RRR3]

3tard you hate Orange Face with so much blind fury and passion. Any admiration or respect that's given to Trump from posters here on the right pales in comparison to your existential devotion to hating him.

You hate Donald Trump and his supporters so much, that you signed up for multiple doses of an experimental government vaccine just to prove it. If I showed even a fraction of that kind of devotion, I would be vaccinated. Trump is the one who pushed it first and attached his name to it and he's the one who said how wonderful it was.

Meanwhile you're a healthy young man and you stuck a needle in your arm to combat a virus with a 99.98% survival rate, all because your cult masters told you to.

There is no getting over that.
:yaohappy:


How are you this stupid? I'm not even going to give you the gift of telling you why the highlighted is stupid, I want to see you actually figure it out for yourself.

[RRR3]

Bawler if you can figure this out I'll concede you may have an IQ over 80. If not, well....








:yaohappy:

[Baller234]

You accused me of being a Trump cultist and that I am devoted to Trump, so by your logic I should be vaccinated then. Since I adore Trump so much and just buy into whatever he says. Yet here I stand, 0 times vaccinated for Covid.

You on the other hand, multiple vaccinations and at least one booster. Why?

[RRR3]

You accused me of being a Trump cultist and that I am devoted to Trump, so by your logic I should be vaccinated then. Since I adore Trump so much and just buy into whatever he says. Yet here I stand, 0 times vaccinated for Covid.

You on the other hand, multiple vaccinations and at least one booster. Why?
Because I follow the advice of my primary care physician? Do you not? :yaohappy:

You could be right, maybe it would be more accurate to call you a conservative news cultist, as you believe whatever they say 100%, and they were against the vaccine despite Trump being for it. Trump is just a vessel for you, you were probably similarly defensive about the Bushes and Reagan if you're old enough for them. Because you believe everything Fox News says.

[Baller234]

Because I follow the advice of my primary care physician? Do you not? :yaohappy:

You could be right, maybe it would be more accurate to call you a conservative news cultist, as you believe whatever they say 100%, and they were against the vaccine despite Trump being for it. Trump is just a vessel for you, you were probably similarly defensive about the Bushes and Reagan if you're old enough for them.

The first time I was eligible to vote in my life was 2004, but I was hospitalized 2 days before election day so I didn't vote. But my younger self was a democrat and I was going to vote for Kerry. Then in 2008 I voted for Obama.

So as usual, you're wrong.

[warriorfan]

Because I follow the advice of my primary care physician? Do you not? :yaohappy:

You could be right, maybe it would be more accurate to call you a conservative news cultist, as you believe whatever they say 100%, and they were against the vaccine despite Trump being for it. Trump is just a vessel for you, you were probably similarly defensive about the Bushes and Reagan if you're old enough for them. Because you believe everything Fox News says.

Well in this case his dna was already compromised pre vax so nothing was lost.

[Baller234]

-dblpost

[RRR3]

The first time I was eligible to vote in my life was 2004, but I was hospitalized 2 days before election day so I didn't vote. But my younger self was a democrat and I was going to vote for Kerry. Then in 2008 I voted for Obama.

So as usual, you're wrong.
I get it. You're afraid to admit you supported W after he went down as a colossal joke. It's incredibly common.

[Baller234]

I get it. You're afraid to admit you supported W after he went down as a colossal joke. It's incredibly common.

No, like most uninformed young people I was indoctrinated by pop culture into being a democrat. I didn't vote in 2012 but only because I was too lazy. Even then I was still rooting for Obama.

Trump was the first republican I ever voted for.

[RRR3]

Sure champ.

[Baller234]

If I am such a staunch Trump cultist why tf would I lie and say that I voted for Obama?

:oldlol:

[RRR3]

If I am such a staunch Trump cultist why tf would I lie and say that I voted for Obama?

:oldlol:
Funny how you hate it when someone uses your own tactics against you.

[Baller234]

Funny how you hate it when someone uses your own tactics against you.

I voted for Obama because the Bush years were wrapped in turmoil and I foolishly bought that Obama represented hope and change. Most millennials my age swung for Obama because he had the power of hollywood and entertainment on his side. Plus we all wanted to be apart of something special in terms of electing the first "black" president.

When he won I was excited and proud.

[RRR3]

Nice deflection from the fact that it enraged you when I used your own tactics against you

[Baller234]

Who's enraged? I've been pretty calm this entire time. I'm explaining to you that you're wrong.

You're the one in the cult. You're the one who rushed to inject themselves with an experimental government needle. You can insist others are in a cult all you want, but you're the one with the mark of the beast. Not me.

[Off the Court]

Who has the worst case of Trump Devotion Syndrome, Bawler, Hey Yo or Fatrick?

It's Baller now, he defends and excuses the most.

methcrackfentfan used to be in there too, would thrown an absolute baby temper tantrum anytime someone mentions Trump. But I think the Epstein drama has really damaged his will power and it's probably caused him to increase his drug use quite a bit.

[Off the Court]

https://media.tenor.com/iXzpdvRMBjkAAAAM/woman-mad-face.gif

YOU'RE THE ONE IN A CULT NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vaccines and stuff!!!! Biden did things!!!!!! Mark of the Beast!!!!!!!!


chill

[RRR3]

Who's enraged? I've been pretty calm this entire time. I'm explaining to you that you're wrong.

You're the one in the cult. You're the one who rushed to inject themselves with an experimental government needle. You can insist others are in a cult all you want, but you're the one with the mark of the beast. Not me.
Doing what your doctor recommends is cultish now :lol

[RRR3]

chill
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Baller234]

An old thread from July 2023:

Biden's daughter said it wasn't appropriate for him to shower with her as a lil girl

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?513492-Biden-s-daughter-said-it-wasn-t-appropriate-for-him-to-shower-with-her-as-a-lil-girl

Mysteriously missing from this thread:

- Off His Meds
- TheNazi
- HIGHwhey
- Bill Gates
- Overdrive

3tard was the only one with enough courage to partake. Imagine that.

The daughter of the sitting president wrote in her own diary that her father took naked showers with her when she was a small girl, and the board libs who now claim to be totally outraged and are hell bent on punishing child abusers of all else... were totally silent.

Care to explain guys? Please don't just skim past this post. I would really love an explanation.

[Baller234]

chill

I'm guessing you're under the age of 40 and are mostly healthy.

Anyone in your position who voluntarily signed up to get vaccinated against Covid and did so multiple times is unquestionably in a cult. Don't even get me started on all the genderless stuff you guys are into.

[Off the Court]

An old thread from July 2023:

Biden's daughter said it wasn't appropriate for him to shower with her as a lil girl

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?513492-Biden-s-daughter-said-it-wasn-t-appropriate-for-him-to-shower-with-her-as-a-lil-girl

Mysteriously missing from this thread:

- Off His Meds
- TheNazi
- HIGHwhey
- Bill Gates
- Overdrive

3tard was the only one with enough courage to partake. Imagine that.

The daughter of the sitting president wrote in her own diary that her father took naked showers with her when she was a small girl, and the board libs who now claim to be totally outraged and are hell bent on punishing child abusers of all else... were totally silent.

Care to explain guys? Please don't just skim past this post. I would really love an explanation.

First off a parent showering with their child isn't on the same level as raping a child.

But also -

Being absent from the thread > Being in the thread defending Biden

None of us cared to defend him which is the correct move.

[Baller234]

First off a parent showering with their child isn't on the same level as raping a child.

But also -

Being absent from the thread > Being in the thread defending Biden

None of us cared to defend him which is the correct move.

Why weren't you guys calling for him to be punished and/or impeached? Why weren't you demanding his supporters cut ties with him?

How come Biden managed to finish his term without ever having to address it?

[Off the Court]

We weren't in that thread defending Biden because we aren't in a cult like you are.

[Baller234]

We weren't in that thread defending Biden because we aren't in a cult like you are.

You weren't defending him because that would be admitting you supported a child abuser. You stayed out of the thread because you were more comfortable pretending it wasn't real.

Can you show me a single post of yours where you addressed it? Did you cut ties? Had Brandon never stepped down, surely you were going to vote for him correct?

Who exactly do you think you're fooling here? :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Funny how you hate it when someone uses your own tactics against you.

I've learned your tactics!!!!!

:roll:

[RRR3]

As much as I hate to agree with bawler, it's true that you look hypocritical if you don't call out Biden's pedo behavior with kids if you're gonna harp on Trump in that regard. They're both pedos :confusedshrug:

[Baller234]

Here is Off His Meds gushing about Brandon's job as president as late as Jan 2024, even AFTER learning that he took naked showers with his daughter and was complicit in the Epstein coverup.

Joe Biden hasn't even been that bad of a President lol
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?515966-Joe-Biden-hasn-t-even-been-that-bad-of-a-President-lol


"Joe Biden is a puppet"

So what, who ever is controlling that puppet is doing a hell of a lot better than the rest of the world leaders are. We need to keep this puppet master in office.

^ Off His Meds knew that Biden was an abuser who was also complicit in the Epstein coverup, but here he is advocating for him to stay in office and comments on how great a job he's doing.

Care to explain buddy?

[j3lademaster]

Well, the claim was unsubstantiated at the time and Project Veritas does have a history of being a hack source so it makes sense no one posted in there.

It looks like since then Ashley Biden has admitted that that was in fact her diary and if she wants to come forth and claim she was touched inappropriately and thought the act was deliberate, I will 1000% be on her side on the matter. Very progressive of you to “believe women” in this instance Baller, I’ll give you credit.

Since then Ashley Biden has stated


Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love.

Her own words, but you’re going to say “ofc Joe Biden shut her up”. So this is enough to condemn Joe as a pedo in your eyes? That’s fine as long as the energy is consistent.

OTOH, Katie Johnson accused Trump and Epstein of repeatedly raping her when she was 13. Thirteen, dude, c’mon Christians who care about abortion and children. She dropped the case due to repeated death threats. I’m sure if it was Biden “ofc Biden shut her up” would fly in this case, but since it’s Trump, it’s unsubstantiated because I wasn’t personally in the room witnessing it happen with video evidence. And even if I had video evidence you will probably move the goal post and claim it was doctored.

[j3lademaster]

I've learned your tactics!!!!!

:roll:

You love pedophiles. (https://goppredators.wordpress.com)

[Off the Court]

As much as I hate to agree with bawler, it's true that you look hypocritical if you don't call out Biden's pedo behavior with kids if you're gonna harp on Trump in that regard. They're both pedos :confusedshrug:

disagree

Showering with your own child isn't impeachable or even illegal. There are no grounds for anyone to do anything. It is not the same as actual child rape.

[RRR3]

disagree

Showering with your own child isn't impeachable or even illegal. There are no grounds to do anything. It is not the same as actual child rape.
Have you not seen the videos with Biden touching kids inappropriately?

[Baller234]

j3lademaster

Quite the contrary, I am not ready to totally write off Biden just because of the diary entry. I believe a man is innocent until he's proven guilty. However we do have physical circumstantial evidence from his own daughter, which is more than what we have with Trump, and not one of you guys were interested in calling Biden or the democrats to task on it. You guys were not even the slightest bit curious or thought that it should be investigated.

In 2024 a federal court proved the validity of the diary and you guys still said nothing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68776262

[Off the Court]

Have you not seen the videos with Biden touching kids inappropriately?

Sniffing hair? Look the guy is creepy, probably has inappropriate thoughts. But what were we to do exactly? "ARREST HIM NOW!!!! HE SAW HIS OWN DAUGHTER NAKED!!!!"


This isn't bias or partisan, this is just common sense. Epstein Island is in a whole different realm than that. They aren't in the same league.

[j3lademaster]

As much as I hate to agree with bawler, it's true that you look hypocritical if you don't call out Biden's pedo behavior with kids if you're gonna harp on Trump in that regard. They're both pedos :confusedshrug:

Ok throw Biden in jail then idgaf.

We both know that isn’t the point though. Neither Biden nor Trump have been proven beyond the reasonable doubt of a doubt but have strong evidence against them(much stronger in Trump’s case because his are actually accusatory), but Baller is ok with putting Joe Biden in front of a firing squad over that, but when it comes to Trump will jump through flaming hoops to find excuses for. Plus it’s so much more dangerous to have this as a sitting president because he has the power to pardon and make laws that help sex traffickers.

[highwhey]

You love pedophiles. (https://goppredators.wordpress.com)

:roll:

[Baller234]

disagree

Showering with your own child isn't impeachable or even illegal. There are no grounds for anyone to do anything. It is not the same as actual child rape.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
















https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-18-2013/y2BxP7.gif

[RRR3]

Ok throw Biden in jail then idgaf.

We both know that isn’t the point though. Neither Biden nor Trump have been proven beyond the reasonable doubt of a doubt but have strong evidence against them(much stronger in Trump’s case because his are actually accusatory), but Baller is ok with putting Joe Biden in front of a firing squad over that, but when it comes to Trump will jump through flaming hoops to find excuses for. Plus it’s so much more dangerous to have this as a sitting president because he has the power to pardon and make laws that help sex traffickers.
Oh yeah Baller is a hypocrite, I'm just saying OTC is being one too. There's really no reason to defend either of these guys.

[Baller234]

Oh yeah Baller is a hypocrite, I'm just saying OTC is being one too. There's really no reason to defend either of these guys.

We have physical evidence with Brandon. With Trump we have nothing but hearsay and speculation.

Not the same.

[Off the Court]

Oh yeah Baller is a hypocrite, I'm just saying OTC is being one too. There's really no reason to defend either of these guys.

If Biden died tonight I wouldn't blink. I do not care about him. But seeing your child naked is at worst "inappropriate".

versus mass rape and slavery of children. :oldlol: HIGHLY illegal

This is like comparing running a red light, to mass murder.

[Baller234]

If Biden died tonight I wouldn't blink. I do not care about him. But seeing your child naked is at worst "inappropriate".

versus mass rape and slavery of children. :oldlol:

This is like comparing running a red light, to mass murder.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Good god.

No you fukking retard, that's not the concerning part.

JFC

[j3lademaster]

If Biden died tonight I wouldn't blink. I do not care about him. But seeing your child naked is at worst "inappropriate".

versus mass rape and slavery of children. :oldlol: HIGHLY illegal

This is like comparing running a red light, to mass murder.
Anyone with kids will agree you need to luffa them up because toddlers suck at cleaning themselves, but you also need to put on some basketball shorts. From how the diary read it seems like Biden just kinda… let it hang.

[Baller234]

Anyone with kids will agree you need to luffa them up because toddlers suck at cleaning themselves, but you also need to put on some basketball shorts. From how the diary read it seems like Biden just kinda… let it hang.

Uh, she wasn't a toddler. At least there's nothing in the diary stating she was.

Here is the exact entry from the diary:

“I remember having sex with friends at a young age; showers with my dad (probably not appropriate); being hyper-sexualized at a young age…”

I highly doubt she's recollecting events from the time she was 3. :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

He was inappropriate, from a legal standpoint there is nothing there.

I'm just telling it like it is, Bill Clinton is the one that should be thrown in prison.



Also, the idea that anyone calling out Trump is a hypocrite if they weren't also in another thread is crap

[j3lademaster]

The main story in this thread isn't that Trump went back on his word and didn't release the files, it's that he's actively BLOCKING an investigation of the money trail. He could do nothing. Just go golf.

[Overdrive]

An old thread from July 2023:

Biden's daughter said it wasn't appropriate for him to shower with her as a lil girl

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?513492-Biden-s-daughter-said-it-wasn-t-appropriate-for-him-to-shower-with-her-as-a-lil-girl

Mysteriously missing from this thread:

- Off His Meds
- TheNazi
- HIGHwhey
- Bill Gates
- Overdrive

3tard was the only one with enough courage to partake. Imagine that.

The daughter of the sitting president wrote in her own diary that her father took naked showers with her when she was a small girl, and the board libs who now claim to be totally outraged and are hell bent on punishing child abusers of all else... were totally silent.

Care to explain guys? Please don't just skim past this post. I would really love an explanation.

There wasn't enough to discuss there. Biden is a shady dude, who was gliding through his presidency in some weird senile delirium. IDC throw him into prison.

[Patrick Chewing]

Evidence is not proof and there is loads of it, what the OP posted in this thread is evidence.

Him being best buddies with Epstein is evidence. Him going out of his way to hide the files is evidence. Elon Musk saying that Trump is listed is evidence. The women claiming he abused them is evidence. Various comments he has made from the past during beauty events and whatnot is evidence.

There is enough there for people to make the same assumptions they make about OJ Simpson.

Sorry, pal. You can't redefine evidence to suit your narrative cause you don't like Trump.

[Patrick Chewing]

Evidence is not proof and there is loads of it, what the OP posted in this thread is evidence.

Him being best buddies with Epstein is evidence. Him going out of his way to hide the files is evidence. Elon Musk saying that Trump is listed is evidence. The women claiming he abused them is evidence. Various comments he has made from the past during beauty events and whatnot is evidence.

There is enough there for people to make the same assumptions they make about OJ Simpson.

Sorry, pal. You can't redefine evidence to suit your narrative cause you don't like Trump.

[j3lademaster]

Sorry, pal. You can't redefine evidence to suit your narrative cause you don't like Trump.

There are different levels of evidence. There’s beyond a reasonable doubt and probable cause like most people know, preponderance, clear and convincing etc.

[Jasper]

when someone blocks files ... that is not even political ...

Its signals to me that person was involved...

Pics of Trump and Epstein is one thing ,, but standing next to high school girls with Epstein is another when both of them are in their 40's.

Megas would rage over any democrat that was in same position , but supports trump to no end...
probably cause they think it is normal , and they could get away with it as well.

Sad how America operates.

[Baller234]

There wasn't enough to discuss there. Biden is a shady dude, who was gliding through his presidency in some weird senile delirium. IDC throw him into prison.

Bro.

For countless years the left made jokes about Trump lusting over his daughter. Not just niche circles online, mainstream media. All the late night hosts, comedians, the ladies on the view, etc.

But Ashley Biden says that her father took naked showers with her as a young girl, and all of a sudden the left doesn't think there's anything to discuss? Not even a joke?

Also it's really telling that you guys don't see anything wrong about the act itself. It is never f'n appropriate for you to be naked in front of your children, let alone a father and his grade school daughter. This sicko (allegedly) was taking SHOWERS with her. Not only is that sick in and of itself, it raises other concerns and suggests that she could have been enduring other forms of abuse as well if something like that was commonplace.

[Overdrive]

Bro.

For countless years the left made jokes about Trump lusting over his daughter. Not just niche circles online, mainstream media. All the late night hosts, comedians, the ladies on the view, etc.

But Ashley Biden says that her father took naked showers with her as a young girl, and all of a sudden the left doesn't think there's anything to discuss? Not even a joke?

Also it's really telling that you guys don't see anything wrong about the act itself. It is never f'n appropriate for you to be naked in front of your children, let alone a father and his grade school daughter. This sicko (allegedly) was taking SHOWERS with her. Not only is that sick in and of itself, it raises other concerns and suggests that she could have been enduring other forms of abuse as well if something like that was commonplace.

You misinterpreted the bolded sentence: Biden without a doubt kept groping little girls out in public. There's this diary. There's nothing to discuss there, if you're not some zealot you'd call oit Biden on this. He's obviously not right when it comes to this. If he's a sexual predator or if it's just an inappropriate crossing of boundaries doesn't even matter. It's behaviour that would make him unfit to be president.

I find it odd that you think bringing up Biden does help justifying Trump covering up for pedos or his own pedo ways in any way. They're both trash as human beings.

[warriorfan]

He was inappropriate, from a legal standpoint there is nothing there.

I'm just telling it like it is, Bill Clinton is the one that should be thrown in prison.



Also, the idea that anyone calling out Trump is a hypocrite if they weren't also in another thread is crap

“From a legal standpoint”

:crazysam:


This dude is deranged :roll:

[TheMan]

We have physical evidence with Brandon. With Trump we have nothing but hearsay and speculation.

Not the same.

This guy is ISH biggest hypocrite :roll:

Biden's daughter writes something in her diary...Bawler wants Biden executed.

Trump has dozens of women accuse him of sexual assault, he himself admits he doesn't need consent to grab em by the *****, bbf with known pedos...mere hearsay and speculation :roll:

[warriorfan]

This guy is ISH biggest hypocrite :roll:

Biden's daughter writes something in her diary...Bawler wants Biden executed.

Trump has dozens of women accuse him of sexual assault, he himself admits he doesn't need consent to grab em by the *****, bbf with known pedos...mere hearsay and speculation :roll:

Lots of women have an agenda in accusing someone rich and famous of SA….Looking for a payday. You have seen tons of fake allegations rooted in a money grab.



What would be the agenda of Biden’s daughter venting about her traumatic childhood when Biden would make unwanted and inappropriate contact with her? lol.

Use your little mexican jumping bean brain my muchacho.

[TheMan]

Lots of women have an agenda in accusing someone rich and famous of SA….Looking for a payday. You have seen tons of fake allegations rooted in a money grab.



What would be the agenda of Biden’s daughter venting about her traumatic childhood when Biden would make unwanted and inappropriate contact with her? lol.

Use your little mexican jumping bean brain my muchacho.

Release the Epstein files unredacted then...but that will never happen because we know Trump was banging teens. He's a horny, adulterous, immoral POS, we all know that but you don't care. Meth has made you even dumber than what you were.

[warriorfan]

Release the Epstein files unredacted then...but that will never happen because we know Trump was banging teens. He's a horny, adulterous, immoral POS, we all know that but you don't care. Meth has made you even dumber than what you were.

You have tied to f.uck your cousin while married to the mother of your children…don’t throw stones in a glass house hombre

[Baller234]

Release the Epstein files unredacted then...but that will never happen because we know Trump was banging teens. He's a horny, adulterous, immoral POS, we all know that but you don't care. Meth has made you even dumber than what you were.

"Hey Siri, can you show me all the posts from 2020-2024 where TheNazi demanded more transparency on the Jeffrey Epstein files?..."

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yes, he was lying, if anyone cares. (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgqnn4ngvdo)

[highwhey]

just 2 pals hanging out, doing wholesome things

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/185b/live/d0411be0-8ce6-11f0-9cf6-cbf3e73ce2b9.jpg.webp

[Patrick Chewing]

You have tied to f.uck your cousin while married to the mother of your children…don’t throw stones in a glass house hombre

That's disgusting. TheShrimp is going straight to hell when he dies for incestuous ways. Sickening. Someone should off that guy. His poor cousin. I'll take care of her.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So apparently, even though she bought a lighter sentence for herself by saying Trump was not involved with Epstein's pedo ring Ghislaine did tell Trump's legal defense team (formerly operating as the Department of Justice) that a number of members of Trump's Cabinet were socializing with Jeffrey. Of course, not a single follow-up question was asked about that.

[Chick Stern]

Why the **** was the other Epstein file locked? As scared of the facts as the Trump Admin.

Study this timeline:

• ⁠2001: Trump learns Epstein trafficked and "stole" underaged masseuse Virginia Giuffre from Trump's adult spa.

• ⁠2002: Trump says “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

• ⁠2003: Trump sends note to Epstein: "may every day be another wonderful secret".

• ⁠2005: Epstein is tipped off in advance that he is about to be raided, and hires cleaners to wipe his hard drives and remove everything. Nevertheless, there is so much evidence that the police still found tons of homemade child porn and other incriminating documents, including instructions how to take delivery of a girl he bought in Thailand.

• ⁠2006: Epstein indicted. Evidence cited by police includes phone messages with Trump and Harvey Weinstein, among others.

• ⁠2007: Epstein barred from Mar A Lago for uncertain reasons. Purportedly a falling out over a real estate dispute

• ⁠2008: Prosecutor Alex Acosta gave Epstein a sweet plea deal that destroyed all the evidence, and, get this: granted immunity to any unindicted co-conspirators. You read that right, Epstein's original FL plea deal not only wiped his record and gave him immunity, it also gave immunity to everyone he committed crimes and raped kids with, known and unknown!

• ⁠2017: Acosta, who gave Epstein and all his co-child rapers immunity, becomes Trump's Secretary of Labor.

• ⁠2019: Epstein is jailed again on new sex-trafficking charges. Under Trump's command, the federal prison where Epstein is being held takes him off suicide watch, moves him to a solitary cell where the cameras outside are not working, and forgets to make their rounds at the same that three minutes of camera footage are deleted from the hallway camera, during which Epstein breaks his own neck and dies. Epstein's NYC Mansion is raided, and Trump Attorney General Bill Barr stopped the evidence collection, in order to allow his own team to enter and clean out Epstein's safe.

• ⁠2021-2024: The Biden administration prosecutes and convicts Ghislaine Maxwell, and begins sealed grand-jury investigations against other co-conspirators, in addition to releasing the largest trove of Epstein-related documents to date, including the "Epstein Tapes" in which Jeff Epstein calls Trump his "closest friend for ten years". Trump campaigns on releasing ALL of the Epstein Files.

• ⁠2025: Trump cancels the grand-jury investigations, fires the prosecutor, and claims Epstein is a "hoax" made up by Obama. Entire GOP votes to shut down Congress, in order to prevent a vote on the Epstein files. Trump DOJ has a secret meeting with Ghislaine and moves her to a fenceless minimum-security "club Fed" with work-release privileges. Trump administration intervenes to allow child sex-predator Tom Artiom Alexandrovich to flee to Israel in order to avoid criminal charges in Nevada.

[Yes or No]

Trump is guilty af surrounding Epstein. Anyone that defends him is doing nothing but rooting for sports teams. Anyone that irrationally cares about this because it's Trump and no other reason is also rooting for sports teams.

[highwhey]

i think this is a big reason why MAGAs are pretending to be so upset about charlie kirk, they needed a big distraction from the epstein files since they knew fierece liberals would not let the epstein files go away. bring this up to any MAGA and watch them try to steer the conversation to charlie kirk - "who cares? our hero just passed away".

[Yes or No]

i think this is a big reason why MAGAs are pretending to be so upset about charlie kirk, they needed a big distraction from the epstein files since they knew fierece liberals would not let the epstein files go away. bring this up to any MAGA and watch them try to steer the conversation to charlie kirk - "who cares? our hero just passed away".

Nonsense. Conservatives are far less trusting of big government than liberals. The liberals that are tooth and fang for the Epstein files just want Trump. There are far more people on the right side of the aisle that want everyone in those files outed.

Just because there are three people on InsideHoops that would blow Trump if he asked doesn't mean that's representative of your typical right winger.

[highwhey]

Nonsense. Conservatives are far less trusting of big government than liberals. The liberals that are tooth and fang for the Epstein files just want Trump. There are far more people on the right side of the aisle that want everyone in those files outed.

Just because there are three people on InsideHoops that would blow Trump if he asked doesn't mean that's representative of your typical right winger.

:roll:

[Yes or No]

:roll:

If you honestly believe that left wing voters are less trustful of government than right wing voters you literally haven't the faintest idea in the world of what you're talking about. Literally less than zero.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Trump is huge government. 5 of the 10 biggest budgets in history have been passed while he was in office and he's been in office for five budgets. Sending the national guard everywhere and adding the ICE agents necessary to keep farmers safe from fruit pickers are big government activities. What MAGA "conservatives" are really against is the government spending money in a way that might help poor people. Which, ironically, plenty of them are.

[Yes or No]

Trump is huge government. 5 of the 10 biggest budgets in history have been passed while he was in office and he's been in office for five budgets. Sending the national guard everywhere and adding the ICE agents necessary to keep farmers safe from fruit pickers are big government activities. What MAGA "conservatives" are really against is the government spending money in a way that might help poor people. Which, ironically, plenty of them are.

I didn't say anything about spending. The American public isn't going to elect someone that balances the budget and reduces the deficit long term. Therefore, largely, the debt will continue to grow and each new president will be the next president that has the biggest budget in history.

The fact that you clearly don't understand this at all says to me you don't understand the nature of the monetary system.

Regardless of what Trump is or is not, a lot of them have the idea that he represents an outsider. Which to some extent he is. The system wouldn't push back as hard against him if he weren't. The fact that I have to "defend" such a self serving ego maniac because people like you will never tell the truth about anything exhausts me to no end.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What do you think "spending" is? The government spends money on employees, services, contractors, etc. The money isn't just set on fire. Not understanding that government spending leads to government size isn't a particularly good argument.

[highwhey]

If you honestly believe that left wing voters are less trustful of government than right wing voters you literally haven't the faintest idea in the world of what you're talking about. Literally less than zero.
this is absolute bull$hit.

trump in 8 months thus far: deployed troops on american ground
deployed national guard in cities with non-emergency state status
created a bill to fund the most expensive law enforcement agency in the history of human kind
destroyed due process
increasing incarceration capacity
disrespecting statehood authority
wants to strip foreigners visas for making fun of charlie kirk, a non federal employee or public office servant


but sure, right wings want less government :roll::roll::roll:

[ZenMaster]

Why the **** was the other Epstein file locked? As scared of the facts as the Trump Admin.

Study this timeline:

• ⁠2001: Trump learns Epstein trafficked and "stole" underaged masseuse Virginia Giuffre from Trump's adult spa.

• ⁠2006: Epstein indicted. Evidence cited by police includes phone messages with Trump and Harvey Weinstein, among others.


What's the proof for these two claims?

[Chick Stern]

What's the proof for these two claims?


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/29/us/politics/trump-epstein-virginia-giuffre-mar-a-lago.html

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/trump-weinstein-among-names-in-phone-messages-in-police-evidence-from-epstein-2005-case


PDF file

[ZenMaster]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/29/us/politics/trump-epstein-virginia-giuffre-mar-a-lago.html

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/trump-weinstein-among-names-in-phone-messages-in-police-evidence-from-epstein-2005-case


PDF file

I misunderstood at first on the second one, it makes sense since they were still friends in 04.

But there's no proof of the first claim, that Trump found out about Giuffre in 01 as it happened and not until later on after Epstein had been charged and his case was rolling. The same time as he banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago.

[Chick Stern]

I misunderstood at first on the second one, it makes sense since they were still friends in 04.

But there's no proof of the first claim, that Trump found out about Giuffre in 01 as it happened and not until later on after Epstein had been charged and his case was rolling. The same time as he banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago.

What do you mean “no proof”? Trumps own words - "He [Epstein] stole people that worked for me."
Asked if the employees were young women, Trump responded: "the answer is yes", and added that they were hired "out of the spa" he ran.
Trump said that one of them was Virginia Giuffre, who had said she began working at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2000, when she was 16.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_VsQdf4dgc

[ZenMaster]

What do you mean no proof? Trumps own words - "He [Epstein] stole people that worked for me."
Asked if the employees were young women, Trump responded: "the answer is yes", and added that they were hired "out of the spa" he ran.
Trump said that one of them was Virginia Giuffre, who had said she began working at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2000, when she was 16.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_VsQdf4dgc

Yeah he said that, but it was recently and not back when it happened. It matters because there's a another timeline where Trump finds out about Giuffre in 06 or 07 having been recruited by Maxwell and Epstein earlier, and that is why he banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and they stopped socializing.

Giuffre gave testimony and she ended up receiving a settlement from Prince Andrew, in her testimony she's asked if she ever saw Trump with Epstein and she said no, not on the island or anywhere else. There's also an interview with her lawyer at the time who said that Trump was the only billionaire helpful in giving him information.
So either Giuffre was lying about Trump never being there, or Epstein was having separate parties for Trump, or Trump wasn't actually there and he and Epstein were friends without Donald knowing about Epstein messing around with girls that young.

[Chick Stern]

Yeah he said that, but it was recently and not back when it happened. It matters because there's a another timeline where Trump finds out about Giuffre in 06 or 07 having been recruited by Maxwell and Epstein earlier, and that is why he banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and they stopped socializing.

Giuffre gave testimony and she ended up receiving a settlement from Prince Andrew, in her testimony she's asked if she ever saw Trump with Epstein and she said no, not on the island or anywhere else. There's also an interview with her lawyer at the time who said that Trump was the only billionaire helpful in giving him information.
So either Giuffre was lying about Trump never being there, or Epstein was having separate parties for Trump, or Trump wasn't actually there and he and Epstein were friends without Donald knowing about Epstein messing around with girls that young.
Great. So release the Epstein files.

and watch the video.

[Chick Stern]

Yeah he said that, but it was recently and not back when it happened. It matters because there's a another timeline where Trump finds out about Giuffre in 06 or 07 having been recruited by Maxwell and Epstein earlier, and that is why he banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and they stopped socializing.

Giuffre gave testimony and she ended up receiving a settlement from Prince Andrew, in her testimony she's asked if she ever saw Trump with Epstein and she said no, not on the island or anywhere else. There's also an interview with her lawyer at the time who said that Trump was the only billionaire helpful in giving him information.
So either Giuffre was lying about Trump never being there, or Epstein was having separate parties for Trump, or Trump wasn't actually there and he and Epstein were friends without Donald knowing about Epstein messing around with girls that young.
Great. So release the Epstein files.

and watch the video.

[highwhey]

Yeah he said that, but it was recently and not back when it happened. It matters because there's a another timeline where Trump finds out about Giuffre in 06 or 07 having been recruited by Maxwell and Epstein earlier, and that is why he banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and they stopped socializing.

Giuffre gave testimony and she ended up receiving a settlement from Prince Andrew, in her testimony she's asked if she ever saw Trump with Epstein and she said no, not on the island or anywhere else. There's also an interview with her lawyer at the time who said that Trump was the only billionaire helpful in giving him information.
So either Giuffre was lying about Trump never being there, or Epstein was having separate parties for Trump, or Trump wasn't actually there and he and Epstein were friends without Donald knowing about Epstein messing around with girls that young.

Great. So release the Epstein files.

and watch the video.

[Chick Stern]

https://i.redd.it/aqj6jkha1jqf1.jpeg

[Jasper]

megas brag that our last prez was a peda .... but no word about trump...


seems funny but what age due megas consider having sex appropriate ???

12, 13 , 15 --- with a 40 year old

[ZenMaster]

Great. So release the Epstein files.

and watch the video.

Watching a bunch of cut up John Oliver isn't going to do anything for me one way or the other.

Which Epstein files is it you'd like to see?