Will Lebron accept a "banger" and hustle player role, aka 13-17 ppg

[3ba11]

It's the only way the Luka can win with Lebron.. LeOld is a huge negative when he's a big part of the offense.. He needs to turn into Charles Oakley and get every loose ball.. It would be a "horry" ring for Lebron, but it's the only way the Lakers have any chance.. If LeNegative is a big part of the offense, he will stop the Lakers from being the 60-70 win team that peak/vengeful Luka is good enough to have.

[k0kakw0rld]

Why do you feel the need to create another LeBron thread? This has been discussed already in other threads...Enough already...

[3ba11]

Why do you feel the need to create another LeBron thread? This has been discussed already in other threads...Enough already...


Point me to the other threads where it's recommended that Lebron average 13-17 ppg in an Oakley role, and I'll happily go to those threads.

[k0kakw0rld]

Point me to the other threads where it's recommended that Lebron average 13-17 ppg in an Oakley role, and I'll happily go to those threads.

I mean, as a LeBron hater yourself. Ain't you tired of talking about him all the time, bro? What do you gain out of this? We don't give a f--k clearly. We are worried about your well-being for real.

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"All the interactions we've had with LeBron and his camp, Rich in particular, have been positive and supportive," Pelinka said on Saturday. "The dialogue with [Paul] has been open and constant."

With James picking up his $52.6 million player option this offseason, there has been constant rumors over the future between the two sides.

It was reported last month that the Lakers prefer to let James play out his contract and leave next offseason.

Pelinka added that he is open to having James retire as a Laker depending on how many more seasons he wants to play.

"I think the No. 1 thing we have to do there is respect he and his family's decision in terms of how long he's going to play," Pelinka said. "We want to respect his ability to come up with his timetable on that.

"I think that's really important. But, if he had a chance to retire a Laker, that would be great."

James reportedly wants to continue his career beyond next season.

There you go, plenty of more years to talk about him some more. Just leave this forum for the rest of the offseason/summer.

[3ba11]

I mean, as a LeBron hater yourself. Ain't you tired of talking about him all the time, bro? What do you gain out of this? We don't give a f--k clearly. We are worried about your well-being for real.

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There you go, plenty of more years to talk about him some more. Just leave this forum for the rest of the offseason/summer.


You're actually right.. I was bored. I posted in the off court lounge and then came in here and needlessly spammed a whack thread that isn't on the level of my other recent threads. Although I do think Lebron prevents winning at this point of his career, when he's a material part of the offense

[Full Court]

Just think, Lebron could have won a fourth ring in 2025 if his ego wasn't so big. OP is spot on about the role Lebron should be playing. Instead he'd rather drag Luka and Reaves down so he can pretend he's the alpha.

[k0kakw0rld]

Just think, Lebron could have won a fourth ring in 2025 if his ego wasn't so big. OP is spot on about the role Lebron should be playing. Instead he'd rather drag Luka and Reaves down so he can pretend he's the alpha.
We can not take you seriously. The man already won his fourth ring with the Lakers in 2020. Luka and Reaves leading the way in 2025 wouldn't have changed anything. The same outcome would've happened. OKC champs and SGA FMVP.

[3ba11]

We can not take you seriously. The man already won his fourth ring with the Lakers in 2020. Luka and Reaves leading the way in 2025 wouldn't have changed anything. The same outcome would've happened. OKC champs and SGA FMVP.


You don't know how hoops works if you think that

Luka/Lebron is like the modern Bird/Magic, so they should have a goat dynasty and 4-peat

the ONLY reason the Lakers are only expected to be a middling team is because LeOld isn't good anymore and actually a massive negative.. I'm pretty sure that he's the only negative All-NBA player ever (aka not really All-NBA)

[Carbine]

I agree.

If he accepted a role where he could focus a significant amount of energy on defense this would create a better cohesive team.

I've seen when Lebron gets down in a stance and wants to guard with a purpose. Even at this age, he's extremely good at it. Also a great communicator on defense.

The problem on offense is the Lakers refuse to try a Luka and Lebron pick and roll. I believe this should be a foundational play design for them because Lebron standing in the corner is not ideal. This way, it directly involves Lebron in the play and on any catch where they double Luka you have one of the best passers EVER in Lebron to play 4 on 3 like Draymond gets to do quite often with their pick and roll with Steph.

Lebron is not a rim roller or massive lob threat but neither is Dray and it works extremely well for the Warriors over the years. Ayton can just go to the dunker spot when he's on the floor.

[Carbine]

You don't know how hoops works if you think that

Luka/Lebron is like the modern Bird/Magic, so they should have a goat dynasty and 4-peat

the ONLY reason the Lakers are only expected to be a middling team is because LeOld isn't good anymore and actually a massive negative.. I'm pretty sure that he's the only negative All-NBA player ever (aka not really All-NBA)

It's not a modern day Magic Bird because one is 40 years old. This isn't like pairing Bird and Magic up in '85.

[3ba11]

I agree.

If he accepted a role where he could focus a significant amount of energy on defense this would create a better cohesive team.

I've seen when Lebron gets down in a stance and wants to guard with a purpose. Even at this age, he's extremely good at it. Also a great communicator on defense.

The problem on offense is the Lakers refuse to try a Luka and Lebron pick and roll. I believe this should be a foundational play design for them because Lebron standing in the corner is not ideal. This way, it directly involves Lebron in the play and on any catch where they double Luka you have one of the best passers EVER in Lebron to play 4 on 3 like Draymond gets to do quite often with their pick and roll with Steph.

Lebron is not a rim roller or massive lob threat but neither is Dray and it works extremely well for the Warriors over the years. Ayton can just go to the dunker spot when he's on the floor.


I agree with all this and the PNR option with Luka/Lebron.

but ultimately, Lebron's inability to move and score off screens puts a lower ceiling on the offense compared to someone like Curry for example

The Draymond role is interesting but that's a super-unique organic role that he took years to grow into... Not sure it works with Luka either - Luka's game is to do everything - ultimately it might be him that puts as lower ceiling on the team... It's just a bad fit imo - they both want to do the same thing - have the ball.. neither moves off screens, which is a big fundamental to lack.. Lebron should go the banger route and see if the superior fit and positive minutes is enough to win

[Full Court]

We can not take you seriously. The man already won his fourth ring with the Lakers in 2020. Luka and Reaves leading the way in 2025 wouldn't have changed anything. The same outcome would've happened. OKC champs and SGA FMVP.

:roll:

He could have won his fourth LEGIT ring.

But as OP has accurately pointed out. The man is a net negative at this stage in his career.

[Im so nba'd out]

No he's too good to play a wizards Jordan role

[warriorfan]

HGh and testosterone blasting are a
hell of a thing.Crazy though that lebron’s frame can take all of that still though. Dude has been blasting PED’s but so has everyone else. He’s low key basketball version of barry bonds but with more physical talent.

[Phoenix]

Charles Oakley and '13-17ppg' are mutually exclusive concepts. He had two seasons averaging 15( 14.5 and 14.6 to be exact), a bunch of 11-13ppg seasons, and overall was a career 9.7ppg scorer.

[tpols]

LeGOAT is going to "bang" the entire league this season and tie MJ for 6 FMVPs.

[ralph_i_el]

During one of his seasons with Miami, LeBron was the most efficient shooter from the right corner. He knows how to play off ball. It's insane to think that as an old man, LeBron could basically give you all the positive aspects of a Boris Diaw and Nic Batum as a connector/size-mismatch/spacer.

[ralph_i_el]

HGh and testosterone blasting are a
hell of a thing.Crazy though that lebron’s frame can take all of that still though. Dude has been blasting PED’s but so has everyone else. He’s low key basketball version of barry bonds but with more physical talent.

Bonds from draft to his max weight represents almost the same gain in mass as LeBron from the draft to his max weight. The difference is, Bonds started at 6'1" 185, and Bron started at ~240. This means Bonds added way more weight relative to his frame.

I'm skeptical of the idea LeBron put on a bunch of muscle from PEDs, as he came into the league muscular beyond his years (unless we think he was blasting HGH during puberty...)

[Phoenix]

LeGOAT is going to "bang" the entire league this season and tie MJ for 6 FMVPs.

If Lebron won another FMVP award it would be his 5th, unless I'm missing something.

[3ba11]

Bonds from draft to his max weight represents almost the same gain in mass as LeBron from the draft to his max weight. The difference is, Bonds started at 6'1" 185, and Bron started at ~240. This means Bonds added way more weight relative to his frame.

I'm skeptical of the idea LeBron put on a bunch of muscle from PEDs, as he came into the league muscular beyond his years (unless we think he was blasting HGH during puberty...)



Lebron's bird legs in late 2000's



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Lebron tree trunk legs in 2010's and 2020's



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According the the GOAT bodybuilder (Ronnie Coleman), a telltale sign of PED's is increase of calf size (bird legs to tree trunk.

[tpols]

If Lebron won another FMVP award it would be his 5th, unless I'm missing something.

Youre omitting the IST championship where he went off for 40/20 game in the title bout vs the Indiana Pacers.

[Phoenix]

Youre omitting the IST championship where he went off for 40/20 game in the title bout vs the Indiana Pacers.

Ah yes, naturally.