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Im Still Ballin
08-04-2025, 11:51 AM
72-game sample (1987 + 1988) from Squared2020 via dankok.

McHale (1987 + 1988):

ON ORtg [5,869 pts/5,169 poss]: 113.5
ON DRtg [5,418 pts/5,142 poss]: 105.3

OFF ORtg [2,285 pts/2,197 poss]: 104.0
OFF DRtg [2,339 pts/2,182 poss]: 107.2

ON NRtg: +8.2
OFF NRtg: -3.2
ON/OFF NRtg: +11.4

Bird (1987 + 1988):

ON ORtg [6,823 pts/6,043 poss]: 112.9
ON DRtg [6,388 pts/6,011 poss]: 106.3

OFF ORtg [1,331 pts/1,323 poss]: 100.6
OFF DRtg [1,369 pts/1,313 poss]: 104.2

ON NRtg: +6.6
OFF NRtg: -3.6
ON/OFF NRtg: +10.2

McHale + Bird (1987 + 1988):

Bird ON/McHale ON ORtg [5,246 pts/4,561 poss]: 115.0
Bird ON/McHale ON DRtg [4,797 pts/4,529 poss]: 105.9

Bird OFF/McHale OFF ORtg [708 pts/715 poss]: 99.0
Bird OFF/McHale OFF DRtg [748 pts/700 poss]: 106.8

ON NRtg: +9.1
OFF NRtg: -7.8
ON/OFF NRtg: +16.9

Bird without McHale (1987 + 1988):

Bird ON/McHale OFF ORtg [1,577 pts/1,482 poss]: 106.4
Bird ON/McHale OFF DRtg [1,591 pts/1,482 poss]: 107.3

NRtg: -0.9

McHale without Bird (1987 + 1988):

McHale ON/Bird OFF ORtg [623 pts/608 poss]: 102.5
McHale ON/Bird OFF DRtg [621 pts/613 poss]: 101.3

NRtg: +1.2
L.Kizzle
08-04-2025, 07:21 PM
Whatever the question is, Bird is the answer.
gengiskhan
08-12-2025, 03:02 PM
Whatever the question is, Bird is the answer.

dont confuse yourself!

Bird can never be THE ANSWER

Only AI, The Great Allen Iverson will always be THE ANSWER
SouBeachTalents
08-12-2025, 03:35 PM
dont confuse yourself!

Bird can never be THE ANSWER

Only AI, The Great Allen Iverson will always be THE ANSWER
Shut the fvck up
1987_Lakers
08-14-2025, 11:04 AM
I think ISH is home to the biggest McHale fan ever in OP and the biggest McHale hater ever in L.Kizzle.
L.Kizzle
08-14-2025, 03:55 PM
I think ISH is home to the biggest McHale fan ever in OP and the biggest McHale hater ever in L.Kizzle.

Who said I hate McHale. I actually loved him as the Rockets coach. He however is overrated as a player. You can still be great and be overrated at the same time.

Also no one ever mentions Jeff Ruland laying the smackdown on him in the 84 playoffs.
warriorfan
08-15-2025, 10:03 PM
Not gonna lie I love the ISB vs Kizzle Mchale episodes on ISH. It makes me tune in weekly. Both sides are good.


It’s great content.