Trump to meet with Zelenskyy and Euro leaders today to discuss Ukraine peace efforts

[Hey Yo]

What to know today

ZELENSKYY IN D.C.
President Donald Trump is set to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Washington, D.C., at 1:15 p.m. ET today to discuss a path for ending the war in Ukraine. Vice President JD Vance will also attend the meeting, a source familiar with the sit-down said.

EUROPEAN LEADERS JOIN:
Zelenskyy will be joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, French President Emmanuel Macron and Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

PUTIN TALKS:
Trump also held a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday, a meeting to which Zelenskyy was not invited. Trump described the summit as "productive" but did not announce a ceasefire deal.

[diamenz]

EUROPEAN LEADERS JOIN:
Zelenskyy will be joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, French President Emmanuel Macron and Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.



the warmonger lineup.

[highwhey]

administration is negotiating asylum for when the dems win next round.

[1987_Lakers]

Biden & Kamala would never.

[diamenz]

administration is negotiating asylum for when the dems win next round.

dems can't help but shoot themselves in the foot every go-around and it certainly doesn't help them any that older loyal voters are dying off and the younger generation rejects their bullshit.

can't wait to see chuck schumer reaching out to voters on tiktok again. never seen anything more cringe in my entire life.

[Hey Yo]

Interested in seeing if Vlad wears something a little more dressy than his typical Johnny Cash look. Maybe the usual with a tie added?

[highwhey]

Interested in seeing if Vlad wears something a little more dressy than his typical Johnny Cash look. Maybe the usual with a tie added?

he dressed appropriately for the trailer trash white house a couple months ago :confusedshrug:

[Baller234]

administration is negotiating asylum for when the dems win next round.

This sounds more like a wish than a prediction. :oldlol:

Tell us oh wise one, who's actually going to "lead" that party to victory?? You think the dems are gonna be able to unite behind a single leader? You guys can't even agree on wtf a woman is. :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Vlad wearing black collared dress shirt, black slacks and black blazer.

:oldlol:

[Norcaliblunt]

This Ukraine shit is the most fake proxy war military industrial complex grab I’ve ever seen .

Seriously weapon manufacturers making money nothing else.

The politics behind it are the lamest shit I’ve ever heard.

[TeflonDonTrump]

This Ukraine shit is the most fake proxy war military industrial complex grab I’ve ever seen .

Seriously weapon manufacturers making money nothing else.

The politics behind it are the lamest shit I’ve ever heard.

It really is. Its because Trump didn't start any wars so the military industrial complex had to take its turn. All the money for health care went to covid.

Its a vicious cycle between the demo and the republican presidency.

[diamenz]

Vlad wearing black collared dress shirt, black slacks and black blazer.

:oldlol:

+10 charisma +10 negotiating skills.

[Hey Yo]

Nato Secretary General:

today's meeting was very successful!

[Overdrive]

the warmonger lineup.

Sure. They are. Not Putin who started serveral wars and had his hands in many other conflicts. Acting like euros want that war is one of the dumbest propaganda narratives told rn. Yesterday's reaction to quasi article 5 security guarantees pretty much showed Putin is not interested in lasting peace. He just needs a break to regroup like he did in '14 when Merkel and Obama ****ed up through appeasement.

If it's really Trump and his advisors who brought up these "strong" guarantees they obviously have a better understnding what's needed to contain Russia than these 2 buffoons were. You can't appease to aggressors. If you make any concessions they'll keep going.

[Overdrive]

the warmonger lineup.

Sure. They are. Not Putin who started serveral wars and had his hands in many other conflicts. Acting like euros want that war is one of the dumbest propaganda narratives told rn. Yesterday's reaction to quasi article 5 security guarantees pretty much showed Putin is not interested in lasting peace. He just needs a break to regroup like he did in '14 when Merkel and Obama ****ed up through appeasement.

If it's really Trump and his advisors who brought up these "strong" guarantees they obviously have a better understnding what's needed to contain Russia than these 2 buffoons were. You can't appease to aggressors. If you make any concessions they'll keep going.

[j3lademaster]

the warmonger lineup.

WTF, none of them have started any wars. If Russia takes Ukraine they will be on Poland’s doorstep, and Poland is part of NATO. When Poland gets invaded you will be forced to go to war, but down one ally in Ukraine at that point.

[Bill Gates]

Everyone is bad except Putin. Also it's all France's fault that WW2 happened.

[Overdrive]

WTF, none of them have started any wars. If Russia takes Ukraine they will be on Poland’s doorstep, and Poland is part of NATO. When Poland gets invaded you will be forced to go to war, but down one ally in Ukraine at that point.

Russia shares a border with Poland already.

[Overdrive]

Everyone is bad except Putin. Also it's all France's fault that WW2 happened.

Diamenz will tell you he's unbiased america first while perpetuing russian propaganda.

[RRR3]

Diamenz will tell you he's unbiased america first while perpetuing russian propaganda.
It’s crazy that retard can’t see Russia is acting the same way as Israel just without US support.

[highwhey]

It’s crazy that retard can’t see Russia is acting the same way as Israel just without US support.

i already brought up israel and the failed attempt at "negotiating" with them...somehow the US came out with even MORE financial and military support than before, but diamenz was like "why are you conflating different issues bro?"

no crimea, no NATO (probably the most important thing here) and likely reduced sanctions on russia....not sure how this is even remotely a win, it certainly isn't for ukraine. we'll all be back here in a couple of years when they change their minds and decide to restart this conflict.

[ZenMaster]

Diamenz will tell you he's unbiased america first while perpetuing russian propaganda.

And all you do is push Biden/Euro propaganda. Anyone can read some news from Scandinavia and predict your anti Trump talking points that you gobble up daily without any kind of original thought.

[Hey Yo]

Board Dems a few months ago:Trump's going to destroy NATO


So why didn't we see signs of that starting to happen after yesterday's meeting??

[Overdrive]

And all you do is push Biden/Euro propaganda. Anyone can read some news from Scandinavia and predict your anti Trump talking points that you gobble up daily without any kind of original thought.

Putin invading Russia is Biden propaganda. Sure, Sergey.

I don't even post daily. I'm not sitting at my pc ready to defend my dear leader after any post that's slightly critical and if you could read there's even some form of praise in this thread, but you keep being you.

[highwhey]

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trump is so fukking cringe

[Bill Gates]

I wonder if Macron bought some gold shoes and a Crypto NFT of Trump shirtless flexing body builder muscles while riding on a giant Bald Eagle.

[Hey Yo]

Obama's Russia ambassador gives stunning verdict on Trump's Ukraine peace talks.

One of Donald Trump’s most outspoken critics over his handling of the Russia-Ukraine war completely changed his tune after Monday’s meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky.

"Whoever had the idea to bring all these European leaders together in addition to President Zelensky, that was a brilliant, brilliant idea,’ McFaul said.

‘And having it come so quickly after Alaska was also very important, because now they’ve changed the talking points here.’

McFaul noted, ‘Just in this meeting alone, they’ve walked back some of the positions that the president was echoing when he met with President Putin.’ :lebronamazed:

Video
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15013927/Major-Trump-critic-does-U-turn-Trump-telling-action-crunch-Ukraine-peace-talks.html

[ZenMaster]

Putin invading Russia is Biden propaganda. Sure, Sergey.

I don't even post daily. I'm not sitting at my pc ready to defend my dear leader after any post that's slightly critical and if you could read there's even some form of praise in this thread, but you keep being you.

Puting invading Ukraine because he wants to re-create the old USSR, or Putin invading Ukraine because he wants to take Europe next is Biden/Euro propaganda.

"No deal can be made on Putin's conditions". Have you not yet realized Russia is winning the war and now the Ukrainan people wants peace? They don't want to fight any longer Mette, if you want to keep watching dead Russians on TV you're going to have to suit up yourself.

Saw a post some days ago too where you were so sure that "Katie Johnson" was raped by Trump and was threatened to take back her accusations. It was all very heartfelt from your side how it was crazy that Trump was only President due to these threats, but back when a woman said she was ready to go in front of congress about her accusation with Biden, she also claimed to have received death threats, yet there wasn't a peep from you on that at the time.


Tara Reade, who drew headlines during the 2020 presidential race by accusing then-candidate Biden of sexually harassing and assaulting her, said she decided to go to Russia after receiving threats in the US.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/tara-reade-defects-russia-biden-intl

[Bill Gates]

Puting invading Ukraine because he wants to re-create the old USSR, or Putin invading Ukraine because he wants to take Europe next is Biden/Euro propaganda.

"No deal can be made on Putin's conditions". Have you not yet realized Russia is winning the war and now the Ukrainan people wants peace? They don't want to fight any longer Mette, if you want to keep watching dead Russians on TV you're going to have to suit up yourself.
If some criminals invaded your home would you let them have the TV room as long as you get to live in peace in your bedroom?

Putin should be killed and Ukraine restored. The rest of the world should have zero tolerance for it. You are the one entrenched in foolish propaganda.

[Overdrive]

Puting invading Ukraine because he wants to re-create the old USSR, or Putin invading Ukraine because he wants to take Europe next is Biden/Euro propaganda.

"No deal can be made on Putin's conditions". Have you not yet realized Russia is winning the war and now the Ukrainan people wants peace? They don't want to fight any longer Mette, if you want to keep watching dead Russians on TV you're going to have to suit up yourself.


Have you not realized making concessions to Putin means these ukrainians dying anyway just not next week, but in a few months or years? There's no lasting peace with Putin. That's not propaganda. That's the way he behaved ever since he became the russian leader. Long before you even knew Biden existed.



Saw a post some days ago too where you were so sure that "Katie Johnson" was raped by Trump and was threatened to take back her accusations. It was all very heartfelt from your side how it was crazy that Trump was only President due to these threats, but back when a woman said she was ready to go in front of congress about her accusation with Biden, she also claimed to have received death threats, yet there wasn't a peep from you on that at the time.



https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/tara-reade-defects-russia-biden-intl

Link me to my post where I was so sure.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Board Dems a few months ago:Trump's going to destroy NATO


So why didn't we see signs of that starting to happen after yesterday's meeting??

Because Trump has a 10 second attention span.

[diamenz]

man you guys piled on me worse than starmer & co did to trump to the point that you'd think it was a concerted effort.

@Overdrive & j3lademaster regarding the "warmonger lineup" comment:

yeah, fine - putin was the original warmonger in terms of technically invading ukraine but let's not ignore everything that led up to that invasion; including the countless warnings from the kremlin over the course of literal decades that nato encroachment, particularly regarding the enlisting of ukraine would not be tolerated and did indeed end up being the last straw in terms of russian security concerns. should i even go into our cia's involvement in the 2014 coup? nevertheless we persisted with our expansion efforts and now we're in a losing battle that is probably more about the west at this point saving face over a collosal *uckup more than anything... at the continued expense of the people and the country of ukraine. you really think the neocons give two shits about ukraine??? so i ask you - who are the warmongers now?


WTF, none of them have started any wars. If Russia takes Ukraine they will be on Poland’s doorstep, and Poland is part of NATO. When Poland gets invaded you will be forced to go to war, but down one ally in Ukraine at that point.

oh please. russia has no interest in governing poles or any of the baltic countries for that matter. anyone with half a brain would know that would lead to never-ending unrest and conflict within the population. nor are they foolish enough to start a war with nato because not only would it not end well at all for them but the end result would be giving the neocons everything they ever wanted - a raped and fragmented russia as well as european hegemony. oh and not to mention mutual nuclear destruction.
that's for sure what's on putin's mind whenever he wakes up in the morning - not the burden of governing russia but expanding that burden to also include eastern european countries. :facepalm in addition to that it shouldn't even have to be said that in order for the russian army to complete such a grand task they'd need god knows how many more troops than they currently have deployed. a ridiculous amount more. they wouldn't even be able to take and occupy the entirety of ukraine with their current infantry count.


Diamenz will tell you he's unbiased america first while perpetuing russian propaganda.

nope i take it issue by issue. i'm not emotionally invested in politics or politicians like the lot of you morons are. credit where credit is due and criticism otherwise. it's simple and it's too bad almost everyone on this board is too blinded by allegiances to take this route.


It’s crazy that retard can’t see Russia is acting the same way as Israel just without US support.

now this is really something else to say altogether, especially coming from you who's arguably the most pro-palestian on this board and keeps up with all of the daily and weekly instances of slaughter. did you even take a second to think before you said this? i shouldn't have to go through these glaringly obvious checkmarks but you forced my hand:

- you're quick to call the conflict in the ME a genocide without question. are you bold enough to make the same claim about what's happening in eastern europe?

- is the russian army luring starving ukrainiand to feeding sites and using any excuse they can to gun them down?

- is russia maiming and killing ukrainian children at an exponential and unprecedented rate, arguably intentionally?

- is russia ethnically cleansing an entire population out of their homeland?

i could go on but i should probably let you take it from here. :rolleyes: man that brain of your is always working at full steam, isn't it.


i already brought up israel and the failed attempt at "negotiating" with them...somehow the US came out with even MORE financial and military support than before, but diamenz was like "why are you conflating different issues bro?"

no crimea, no NATO (probably the most important thing here) and likely reduced sanctions on russia....not sure how this is even remotely a win, it certainly isn't for ukraine. we'll all be back here in a couple of years when they change their minds and decide to restart this conflict.

oh yeah, that's what russia wants - to refight this war. could you buy any harder into mainstream propaganda?

believe it or not, russia would prefer to get back to normal relations with the west and do business with us so everyone involved can thrive. but nooo, we ain't having that. we still think its 1991 and we can bully and dominate the world as the sole superpower but it's a different world now, jack. unless we adapt to that fact this ukraine debacle is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of foreign policy failures to come.

[Overdrive]

nope i take it issue by issue. i'm not emotionally invested in politics or politicians like the lot of you morons are. credit where credit is due and criticism otherwise. it's simple and it's too bad almost everyone on this board is too blinded by allegiances to take this route.

Gave credit to Trump in this very thread. I just don't agree with most of his policies and I think he's an uneducated moron. I'm not emotionally invested at all. You won't see me swear at discussion partners like others do.

I'll tackle the other point tomorrow if I don't forget about it. Not enough time today to give a lengthy response.

[Patrick Chewing]

Zelensky wore that pimp suit this time :oldlol: