Ben Simmons rejects the Knicks, gets dropped by his agent.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Because **** 3 million dollars. (https://nypost.com/2025/09/08/sports/ben-simmons-rejects-knicks-contract-offer-and-gets-dropped-by-his-agent/)

But more seriously, can anyone doubt that this guy has no desire to play basketball?

[1987_Lakers]

His downfall was one of the most unexpected downfalls I have seen from an all-star/#1 pick. Never was the same after that playoff game vs Hawks where he didn't shoot that open layup.

[beasted]

Any GM who was willing to sign him to anything other than a non-guaranteed "camp" deal deserves to be fired.

[highwhey]

there's likely a simp team out there willing to sign him

[Real Men Wear Green]

There are apparently multiple teams that would sign him. Just not for the kind of money he used to make. He just can't seem to get himself to sign with anyone for just a few million.

I do wonder what percentage of max players would be willing to play for a tenth of their annual salary. I'm not saying that they would accept that contract with their current status but if they were in his position I believe the majority would accept the offer so they could play. Most of those guys are playing all summer for free. Simmons is just different.

[highwhey]

There are apparently multiple teams that would sign him. Just not for the kind of money he used to make. He just can't seem to get himself to sign with anyone for just a few million.

I do wonder what percentage of max players would be willing to play for a tenth of their annual salary. I'm not saying that they would accept that contract with their current status but if they were in his position I believe the majority would accept the offer so they could play. Most of those guys are playing all summer for free. Simmons is just different.

i know the nba talent pool is small and all, but i wonder why more teams don't enforce the "if you don't want to be here, leave" type mentality. bc ben's weak minded mentality can be contagious, and his play can be absolutely demoralizing at times.

[coin24]

He won’t take a one year prove it deal because he’ll be on the bench for 75% of the time and further expose what an absolute fkn moron and waste of space he is

[Nowoco]

His downfall was one of the most unexpected downfalls I have seen from an all-star/#1 pick.

This. The 30 for 30 about this fool will be interesting in a few years. Remember what all his HS/College coaches said about him? They were absolutely right.

[iamgine]

Simmons has made like $85M (after taxes and fees) from salaries and endorsement over his 9 year career. Why would he want to play for $3M (~$1.4M after taxes and fees)? I bet he make a lot more than that from investment.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Simmons has made like $85M (after taxes and fees) from salaries and endorsement over his 9 year career. Why would he want to play for $3M (~$1.4M after taxes and fees)? I bet he make a lot more than that from investment.
Well, some basketball players actually want to compete on the court at the highest level possible, love the game, and often go out and play it for no money at all. But I will concede that I don't think Simmons is one of those guys.

[GOBB]

Simmons has made like $85M (after taxes and fees) from salaries and endorsement over his 9 year career. Why would he want to play for $3M (~$1.4M after taxes and fees)? I bet he make a lot more than that from investment.

What? A player who wants to get back in the NBA regularly is who. What kind of bad advice is this? His own agent bounced from him. Ben Simmons didn’t even play up to the contract he was gifted. And if the argument is that contract was totally based on what he accomplished (accolades)? Then his current contract offers make even way more sense given from 21-22 season (which he did not play) until recently he underperformed, wasn’t available. You take a prove it deal and next summer ask for money. If he makes a lot more than what he was offered in investing then why does he want more money in terms of an nba contract? The logic doesn’t add up. Sounding like someone’s delusional and it ain’t me

[GOBB]

He won’t take a one year prove it deal because he’ll be on the bench for 75% of the time and further expose what an absolute fkn moron and waste of space he is

Since being traded from sixers…

26mpg
24mpg
————
25mpg
16mpg (after going to clippers for 18gm)
(An avg of 22mpg)


Yeah he really rode the bench for 75% of the time.

[HylianNightmare]

Simmons has made like $85M (after taxes and fees) from salaries and endorsement over his 9 year career. Why would he want to play for $3M (~$1.4M after taxes and fees)? I bet he make a lot more than that from investment.

Has he actually invested

[iamgine]

Well, some basketball players actually want to compete on the court at the highest level possible, love the game, and often go out and play it for no money at all. But I will concede that I don't think Simmons is one of those guys.

Yea but going out and play for no money is very different than NBA life. Constant traveling, public scrutiny, high pressure/stress, chronic pain/injuries. Plus the NBA life is expensive. I bet Simmons will only make like $500K or less at the end of it.

[FilmyCogTurner]

What really hurts is the grace period he received from the moment he was drafted. Nine years is a long time to be waiting for a guy to turn the corner and start playing some meaningful basketball.

I wish the league as a collective could show guys the door to GTFO but I guess it's tough when you see flashes of something good which there definitely was and there's usually a handful of teams with no future who are willing to take the chance.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yea but going out and play for no money is very different than NBA life. Constant traveling, public scrutiny, high pressure/stress, chronic pain/injuries. Plus the NBA life is expensive. I bet Simmons will only make like $500K or less at the end of it.
Simmons may just think this way, and that attitude would explain why he has so completely failed to live up to his potential. He's the most un-Mamba player I've ever seen.

[iamgine]

Simmons may just think this way, and that attitude would explain why he has so completely failed to live up to his potential. He's the most un-Mamba player I've ever seen.

Yea not everyone can be Kobe. Sometimes players are just a normal person.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yea not everyone can be Kobe. Sometimes players are just a normal person.Ben Simmons doesn't have a normal player's attitude towards basketball. How many players worth proven allstar talent would accept being out of the league at the age of 29? That's not just not being like Kobe. That's why I call him the midst un-Mamba player I've ever seen

[iamgine]

Ben Simmons doesn't have a normal player's attitude towards basketball. How many players worth proven allstar talent would accept being out of the league at the age of 29? That's not just not being like Kobe. That's why I call him the midst un-Mamba player I've ever seen

That's why I call him a normal person. Actually he might be better than normal. A normal person gets the $$$ and stop working far earlier than Simmons.

[Real Men Wear Green]

That's why I call him a normal person. Actually he might be better than normal. A normal person gets the $$$ and stop working far earlier than Simmons.
I don't believe that it is normal to sign a contract and then completely fail to live up to it. And to have that failure not be because guys were outplaying you while you were giving an honest effort and just lost, no, Simmons is a failure because he quit. This guy doesn't merit any kind of defense. You can continue to applaud the sorry though.

[iamgine]

I don't believe that it is normal to sign a contract and then completely fail to live up to it. And to have that failure not be because guys were outplaying you while you were giving an honest effort and just lost, no, Simmons is a failure because he quit. This guy doesn't merit any kind of defense. You can continue to applaud the sorry though.

It's completely normal to make $85M over your career and then not want to sign for $1.4M.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's completely normal to make $85M over your career and then not want to sign for $1.4M. Is completely disgusting to sign for hundreds of millions and then refuse to play. It's foolish to then expect to get another large contract after you just scammed your employers for the first contract. If he cares at all about trying to play in the NBA then he shows he is willing and able to actually contribute by signing a deal. Prove himself and then maybe he can get another big deal. But if he can't be bothered then why is he wasting everyone's time? That's why his agent dropped him.

[coin24]

Since being traded from sixers…

26mpg
24mpg
————
25mpg
16mpg (after going to clippers for 18gm)
(An avg of 22mpg)


Yeah he really rode the bench for 75% of the time.


He played about 10 games in how many seasons with the nets?

He was a non factor in the clippers


He’s done. Mental midget

[iamgine]

Is completely disgusting to sign for hundreds of millions and then refuse to play. It's foolish to then expect to get another large contract after you just scammed your employers for the first contract. If he cares at all about trying to play in the NBA then he shows he is willing and able to actually contribute by signing a deal. Prove himself and then maybe he can get another big deal. But if he can't be bothered then why is he wasting everyone's time? That's why his agent dropped him.

You do know salary not matching is a normal job seeking process. For both employer and employee.

[gengiskhan]

thanks for the rejection.

NYK have been saved/

[Real Men Wear Green]

You do know salary not matching is a normal job seeking process. For both employer and employee.
And I hope you and more importantly Simmons are aware of the fact that as an NBA player hs has provided countless hours of footage of himself sitting on the bench refusing to play while being paid 10 of millions of dollars. Anyone going for a big job interview knows about bringing a resume.

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That's the resume that he's given the world and that's why no GM is going to offer him NBA starter money, let alone the max that you think he has no reason to play if he can't get.

A max contract comes with a responsibility to be one of the cornerstone's of the team. If a guy merely comes up short but is still a good player he becomes undesirable like Bradley Beal, but even a guy like Beal can accept reality and still having a desire to play in the NBA takes that smaller contract and continues his career. For a guy to sign for the max and straight-up suck, and then give up on even playing?

Yeah, he might as well quit, he's not getting that money.
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[beasted]

It's completely normal to make $85M over your career and then not want to sign for $1.4M.

Why do you keep saying $85M? Simmons has made $203,537,575 gross

[iamgine]

And I hope you and more importantly Simmons are aware of the fact that as an NBA player hs has provided countless hours of footage of himself sitting on the bench refusing to play while being paid 10 of millions of dollars. Anyone going for a big job interview knows about bringing a resume.

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That's the resume that he's given the world and that's why no GM is going to offer him NBA starter money, let alone the max that you think he has no reason to play if he can't get.

A max contract comes with a responsibility to be one of the cornerstone's of the team. If a guy merely comes up short but is still a good player he becomes undesirable like Bradley Beal, but even a guy like Beal can accept reality and still having a desire to play in the NBA takes that smaller contract and continues his career. For a guy to sign for the max and straight-up suck, and then give up on even playing?

Yeah, he might as well quit, he's not getting that money.
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I don't think he's asking for max, just more than what they offerred.

[iamgine]

Why do you keep saying $85M? Simmons has made $203,537,575 gross

$85M is the nett.

[GOBB]

He played about 10 games in how many seasons with the nets?

He was a non factor in the clippers


He’s done. Mental midget

He played 90 games avg 25ppg. You’re just babbling at this point. I couldn’t care less for Ben Simmons but to sit here and watch you throw nonsense out there? Can’t resist calling you on it. Math ain’t your strong suit I see. Nor is actually watching hoops.

[Wally450]

This. The 30 for 30 about this fool will be interesting in a few years. Remember what all his HS/College coaches said about him? They were absolutely right.

The producers would never waste their time making a 30 for 30 on a bum like him.

Now if you made one on the entire Trust the Process Sixers, with the Jimmy Butler situation and everything else, then I'd watch.

[beasted]

The producers would never waste their time making a 30 for 30 on a bum like him.

Now if you made one on the entire Trust the Process Sixers, with the Jimmy Butler situation and everything else, then I'd watch.

The problem is all of these guys are too nice. I would want to hear someone throw Simmons and Embiid under the bus where it is needed. I want to hear about the candy binge and diet of Joel, etc. All of it.

Whether its Danny Green, JB, etc. Nobody is willing to get in the mud.

[Soundwave]

It might surprise people that there definitely are a contingent of pro athletes in all sports who really don't love what they do. They're good enough at it and make enough that the grind it out.

If he doesn't want to be in the NBA grind and is under no contract obligation, good for him I guess. Go live your life doing something else you enjoy, financially obviously he doesn't need to play.

[GOBB]

It might surprise people that there definitely are a contingent of pro athletes in all sports who really don't love what they do. They're good enough at it and make enough that the grind it out.

If he doesn't want to be in the NBA grind and is under no contract obligation, good for him I guess. Go live your life doing something else you enjoy, financially obviously he doesn't need to play.

Yeah go stream yourself playing video games…

[Axe]

I think he'd retire prematurely.


You’re just babbling
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[Manny98]

He's made 100+ million already for his career

Might as well retire at this point

[Real Men Wear Green]

He's made 100+ million already for his career

Might as well retire at this point
Tell that to Simmons, who claims he still wants to play.