The anti-racists are suspiciously silent regarding the racist murder of Iryna Zaruta

[Baller234]

When George Floyd's heart stopped because he overdosed on fentanyl, you couldn't even blink without being lectured to every waking moment. Silence was violence after all. It was time to comabt racism head on. Together.


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As we speak, a brutal and racist murder of an innocent young woman is receiving national media attention.

And these mf'ers are dead silent.

No hashtags, no slogans... no public statement from Lebron James, Ariana Grande, Gayle King or any of the major corporations that pushed social justice and anti-racism. No calls for sentencing reform or prison reform. Not even a blip on their radar.

I'm seeing a lot of prominent right leaning and right adjacent influencers talking about this story. The overton window has definitely shifted to say the least. The performative virtue signalers that milked Floyd's death for clout and political bludgeoning a few years back might be in for a rude awakening.

The tide is definitely turning.

[RRR3]

Look at how gleeful you are that someone got murdered. Truly sickening.

[highwhey]

Look at how gleeful you are that someone got murdered. Truly sickening.

i was going to say, he seems excited over a tragedy. all so he can get a "gotcha" moment.

[Bill Gates]

What are you looking for exactly? "Black people are the worst!" ?

There are 22,000 murders every year in the US. A lot are done by blacks, no one has ever denied it.

[Bill Gates]

I'll say this, instead of making the debate about race, which is where it will go with 99% of people. It should be a debate about schizophrenia and what those who suffer it should be allowed to do.

[highwhey]

What are you looking for exactly? "Black people are the worst!" ?



UMMM YEAH

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[highwhey]

I'll say this, instead of making the debate about race, which is where it will go with 99% of people. It should be a debate about schizophrenia and what those who suffer it should be allowed to do.

remember, it's only mental illness when a white guy commits an atrocity - see every mass shooter ever.

but when a minority does it, it's due to their race.

[Overdrive]

She was murdered on 22th of August. Why are you only bringing it up now? Could it be that you are caught in a media loop just like you are saying others are? Just from the opposite direction?

What does it have to do with racism or anti racism? The murderer is a human piece of trash. What alot of you bootlicking **** don't get is that it's even worse when pieces of trash become cops ragardless of the cops or victims race.

[John8204]

What are you looking for exactly? "Black people are the worst!" ?

There are 22,000 murders every year in the US. A lot are done by blacks, no one has ever denied it.

The five black people that did F all as she rolled over and died bleeding to death.

Race in this country is complicated, the issue with George Floyd was he was murdered by a police officer for a ticketing offense. The protections afforded police in this country is insane.

But we also have a real issue in this country with black people. This guy was arrested 14 times, he should have been institutionalized now he's going to get the death penalty. You have the Bianca Ellis case where another crazy person stabbed a 3 year old in a shopping cart.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Dq2iM-8As

Camille Denis and her brother killed two people in a drag race...she got 15 years, the brother got probation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvWg0VV5gQ

This was one of the brutal crimes in American history and the media never covered it, nobody made movies or TV shows about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icsp8B8fOtU

So the media does bury black on white crime. And I do believe they do this on purpose and this wrong.

[ZenMaster]

She was murdered on 22th of August. Why are you only bringing it up now? Could it be that you are caught in a media loop just like you are saying others are? Just from the opposite direction?

What does it have to do with racism or anti racism? The murderer is a human piece of trash. What alot of you bootlicking **** don't get is that it's even worse when pieces of trash become cops ragardless of the cops or victims race.

It’s because the video didn’t come out until a few days ago, and the real video where you can actually see her die wasn’t online until yesterday.

https://x.com/ScottPresler/status/1965541935403196770

It has to do with racism because back the left stopped caring about the dangers of covid and instead went to protest against police killing black people and systemic racism, one of the changes in society was a huge push towards progressive bail reform and keeping criminals of color out of jail using the sentiment that they’re not really at fault for the crimes they commit. This was back when dems would go in the street and literally kiss the feet of random black people, I’m sure you remember.
This progressive bail reform was instituted in many big cities across the country by newly elected AGs and judges.

This murder has it all in terms of inducing change and the famous pendulum swinging the other way.

1) It’s a clear execution for being white, done by a crazy guy who should’ve been in jail but wasn’t because judges kept releasing him.

2) The guy was kept out of jail in a county where they’ve received money from an NGO to keep people of color out of jail(which actually means they received tax payer money from the former government).

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3) The video is terrifying.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0a-UNBXgAASHbO?format=jpg&name=small

This probably wouldn't have been allowed to spread in the past through Twitter when they were colluding with the Biden gov, but things are different there with Elon as the owner, who's even piling on himself.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1965678199821795482

[diamenz]

^i doubt she was even aware of the gravity of what had just happened, at all. probably even passed out unknowing. a good thing i guess. anyone know how big was the knife was?

[Baller234]

What are you looking for exactly? "Black people are the worst!" ?

There are 22,000 murders every year in the US. A lot are done by blacks, no one has ever denied it.

How about an equal or similar reaction to the one that George Floyd received? Is that asking too much?

You all claim to be against racism. All of these corporations and all these sports leagues claim to be against racism. Silence is violence. George Floyd was in our face 24/7. Where are the public statements? Where are the promos and campaigns? Where are the activists, athletes and entertainers??

How come Lebron James is silent this time?

[Baller234]

remember, it's only mental illness when a white guy commits an atrocity - see every mass shooter ever.

but when a minority does it, it's due to their race.

No, this man was clearly mentally ill. AND violent. AND racist.

AND HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP!!

This woman is dead because of people like you HIGHwhey. After all it's HER fault she's dead right? Since she didn't know self defense? Surely there's no problem whatsoever with democrats being lenient towards violent repeat offenders. It's all just a myth perpetuated by republicans. They're the REAL problem.

FOH you fa99ot. This woman's blood on your hands. Since you would rather simp for violent murderers and pretend there's no issue. You are willing to sacrifice an innocent life just so you could be invited to the cookout.

Sad, pathetic, gay, retarded. All of the above. A real fukking loser and a headcase you are.

[RRR3]

bawler literally has a panic attack when he sees a black person IRL :yaohappy:

[Baller234]

She was murdered on 22th of August. Why are you only bringing it up now? Could it be that you are caught in a media loop just like you are saying others are? Just from the opposite direction?

What does it have to do with racism or anti racism? The murderer is a human piece of trash. What alot of you bootlicking **** don't get is that it's even worse when pieces of trash become cops ragardless of the cops or victims race.

Because it was a local story genius. Because it took two weeks for anyone to see the surveillance footage.

You sickos are evil.

[Baller234]

bawler literally has a panic attack when he sees a black person IRL :yaohappy:

Unlike you I actually grew up in a neighborhood with black people. Half my grade school and junior high was black.

You live in West Bumblefukk and you're a sad loner. You don't see black people OR white people. The only time you see black people is when you watch NBA Basketball on TV.

And real nice of you to carry on like this in a thread where a woman was brutally murdered and had her throat slit for the sole crime of being white.

If the roles were reversed, and some deranged white lunatic slit the throat of some innocent black woman and made it clear he did it BECAUSE she's black... that woman would already have a golden statue in her honor. She would be Rosa Parks, George Floyd and Jackie Robinson combined. Lebron James would probably have an op-ed in the LA Times.

Say her name.

[Patrick Chewing]

She was murdered on 22th of August. Why are you only bringing it up now? Could it be that you are caught in a media loop just like you are saying others are? Just from the opposite direction?

What does it have to do with racism or anti racism? The murderer is a human piece of trash. What alot of you bootlicking **** don't get is that it's even worse when pieces of trash become cops ragardless of the cops or victims race.

This ****ing clown downplaying what's really happening here. Of course your South Sudanese ass would. You hate White people.

[RRR3]

90% of my high school was black and the vast majority of my current neighborhood is black and Latino. Meanwhile you have diarrhea every time you see a person of color cross the street.

[RRR3]

This ****ing clown downplaying what's really happening here. Of course your South Sudanese ass would. You hate White people.
Blubadub dub. You’re a giant tub

[Baller234]

90% of my high school was black and the vast majority of my current neighborhood is black and Latino. Meanwhile you have diarrhea every time you see a person of color cross the street.

"Person of color..."

Okay racist.

Clearly there's no epidemic of black violent crime and racism against whites. It's all just a myth apparently.

Tell that to Iryna Zaruta.

[RRR3]

"Person of color..."

Okay racist.

Clearly there's no epidemic of black violent crime and racism against whites. It's all just a myth apparently.

Tell that to Iryna Zaruta.
No one thinks you actually care about this murdered girl. You can’t fool us. You just want to whine about black people because they give you the shivers.

[Baller234]

No one thinks you actually care about this murdered girl. You can’t fool us. You just want to whine about black people because they give you the shivers.

Why don't you care about racism all of a sudden?

This woman could have been you 3tard. If you had sat down in her place, maybe it's your throat he slits.

[RRR3]

Be honest bawler. How many times have you called the police on innocent black people? 50?

[Baller234]

"You're just pretending to care about this girl..."

Hmm, let's see.

- I'm advocating for policies that would have prevented this girl's death.
- You insist there's no issue and that things should stay the way they are.

- I'm drawing attention to a brand of anti-white racism that makes whites a target.
- You insist that there's no such thing as anti-white racism and that it's overblown.

- I responded to this story with anger and disgust.
- You responded with trolling, deflection and poor attempts at comedy.


So if I'm only "pretending" to care, what does that say about you??

That you're not even pretending to care?? That you couldn't be bothered to care??

[RRR3]

what policies? That black people shouldn’t be allowed in the country because they give you the willies? :lol

[Baller234]

what policies? That black people shouldn’t be allowed in the country because they give you the willies? :lol

That violent criminals shouldn't have 14 tries to clean up their act. This man should not have been on the train that day.

Do you disagree?

[RRR3]

That violent criminals shouldn't have 14 tries to clean up their act. This man should not have been on the train that day.

Do you disagree?
Anarchists don’t believe in prison dawg. Make mental health services free and publicly available and this stuff won’t happen.

[Bill Gates]

How about an equal or similar reaction to the one that George Floyd received? Is that asking too much?

You all claim to be against racism. All of these corporations and all these sports leagues claim to be against racism. Silence is violence. George Floyd was in our face 24/7. Where are the public statements? Where are the promos and campaigns? Where are the activists, athletes and entertainers??

How come Lebron James is silent this time?

If myself and LeBron James and everyone else comes out and make statements and "react" the way you want us to then what?

Then people of color all start to behave?

[Baller234]

If myself and LeBron James and everyone else comes out and make statements and "react" the way you want us to then what?

Then people of color all start to behave?

So if Lebron James can't make a difference, if the NBA/NFL can't make a difference, if Pepsi can't make a difference... why did they go all-in on this stuff just a few short years ago?

Why did they campaign on "ending racism" in the first place?

[Baller234]

Anarchists don’t believe in prison dawg. Make mental health services free and publicly available and this stuff won’t happen.

Thank you for proving my point. This woman is dead because of you and people like you.

You don't believe in prison. You don't believe in confining someone. Even if they're a very dangerous person who makes you and I less safe. If they rob someone, eh no biggie. If they murder someone, eh no biggie.

I am saying this woman is dead because society failed HER. It failed to protect HER. You are saying society has failed HIM. That she died because it's OUR fault. WE didn't supply this poor gentle soul with enough "mental health services".

Hey dipshit, in order to provide these mental health services, that means you have to CONFINE them. You can't give violent criminals a CHOICE to see if they wanna get help or not. You don't give them the OPTION of checking into a facility. That's why this guy was free to murder this girl.

You are MORE concerned with the freedom and quality of life for this deranged violent throat slasher... than the freedom and quality of life of this poor innocent girl who was just coming home from work. The freedom to not be killed.

Tell me, now that this story is making national news, do you think the average white woman is going to feel MORE or LESS safe as they hop on the train today?? Knowing full well that there could be trapped with some racist and violent lunatic. Because you thought it was more important to show how "not racist" you are then actually keep society safe.

You're not an anarchist, you're cosplaying. It has caused you to abandon all common sense and moral reasoning.

[RRR3]

Thank you for proving my point. This woman is dead because of you and people like you.

You don't believe in prison. You don't believe in confining someone. Even if they're a very dangerous person who makes you and I less safe. If they rob someone, eh no biggie. If they murder someone, eh no biggie.

I am saying this woman is dead because society failed HER. It failed to protect HER. You are saying society has failed HIM. That she died because it's OUR fault. WE didn't supply this poor gentle soul with enough "mental health services".

Hey dipshit, in order to provide these mental health services, that means you have to CONFINE them. You can't give violent criminals a CHOICE to see if they wanna get help or not. You don't give them the OPTION of checking into a facility. That's why this guy was free to murder this girl.

You are MORE concerned with the freedom and quality of life for this deranged violent throat slasher... than the freedom and quality of life of this poor innocent girl who was just coming home from work. The freedom to not be killed.

Tell me, now that this story is making national news, do you think the average white woman is going to feel MORE or LESS safe as they hop on the train today?? Knowing full well that there could be trapped with some racist and violent lunatic. Because you thought it was more important to show how "not racist" you are then actually keep society safe.

You're not an anarchist, you're cosplaying. It has caused you to abandon all common sense and moral reasoning.
How many times have you called the cops on black people? I want an answer. I’m guessing 50 minimum like I said.

[Baller234]

How many times have you called the cops on black people? I want an answer. I’m guessing 50 minimum like I said.

Say her name. Prove to us you view her as a human being whose life mattered.

[RRR3]

Say her name. Prove to us you view her as a human being whose life mattered.
Yeah it’s a tragedy whenever an innocent person gets murdered. Everyone agrees. People are just mocking you because you’re trying to use this to justify your racism.

[Baller234]

Yeah it’s a tragedy whenever an innocent person gets murdered. Everyone agrees. People are just mocking you because you’re trying to use this to justify your racism.

Obviously you don't agree. Obviously you're just pretending to say it's a tragedy. You don't really believe it.

If you really thought it was a tragedy, you wouldn't be bragging about not believing in prisons.

[RRR3]

Obviously you don't agree. Obviously you're just pretending to say it's a tragedy. You don't really believe it.

If you really thought it was a tragedy, you wouldn't be bragging about not believing in prisons.
Anarchists don’t believe in prisons. They are just used for slave labor by the state not for rehabilitation.

[Baller234]

Anarchists don’t believe in prisons. They are just used for slave labor by the state not for rehabilitation.

Which means you also don't believe in safety for this poor young girl.

[Hey Yo]

Anarchists don’t believe in prison dawg. Make mental health services free and publicly available and this stuff won’t happen.

Extremely dumb

[RRR3]

Who would own more slaves back in the day bawler or hey yo?

[Bill Gates]

So if Lebron James can't make a difference, if the NBA/NFL can't make a difference, if Pepsi can't make a difference... why did they go all-in on this stuff just a few short years ago?

Why did they campaign on "ending racism" in the first place?
I think that like 95% of that stuff is a big nothing burger, but again, what slogan are you wanting them to go with on this? Should "Beware of black people" be their campaign?

I'm not even trying to joking here, I want to know exactly what it is that you want LeBron to say about this?

[Baller234]

Who would own more slaves back in the day bawler or hey yo?

Why don't you think Iryna had a right to safety?

[RRR3]

Bawler let me guess you think the confederacy had some good points right? :lol

[Baller234]

I think that like 95% of that stuff is a big nothing burger, but again, what slogan are you wanting them to go with on this? Should "Beware of black people" be their campaign?

I'm not even trying to joking here, I want to know exactly what it is that you want LeBron to say about this?

You guys started this. You're the ones that put "racism" at the forefront. You're the ones who declared that we couldn't watch tv or sports without being lectured to about racism. And not just lectured to, shouted at. 24/7 media cycle all worshiping at the altar of Floyd. Golden caskets. Protests. Riots. Slogans on uniforms. Calls for criminal justice reform.

And now what? Not even a whisper? Where are the calls for sentencing and bail reform? Where are the calls to keep violent criminals off the streets? Where are the harsh reminders that racism effects everyone?

You all made it your life mission to tell us that Floyd's life mattered. Okay, did Iryna's life matter? Keep in mind that unlike Floyd she's actually not a violent degenerate junkie criminal. She was a sweet innocent girl that worked for a living. But nope... nothing. Not a peep from anyone.

If Lebron really wants to show everyone how much he cares? Then yea, maybe he SHOULD speak out on black crime. Maybe he SHOULD speak out on the failure of black parenting. Maybe he SHOULD put pressure on politicians who are overly lenient to violent thugs. He wants to be more than an athlete right??? What's the harm?? Who would be hurting??

Oh that's right, he's an insecure phony fake fukk.

[Baller234]

Bawler let me guess you think the confederacy had some good points right?

First the tranny stuff and now this.

Wrong Side of History(TM).

[RRR3]

You guys started this. You're the ones that put "racism" at the forefront. You're the ones who declared that we couldn't watch tv or sports without being lectured to about racism. And not just lectured to, shouted at. 24/7 media cycle all worshiping at the altar of Floyd. Golden caskets. Protests. Riots. Slogans on uniforms. Calls for criminal justice reform.

And now what? Not even a whisper? Where are the calls for sentencing and bail reform? Where are the calls to keep violent criminals off the streets? Where are the harsh reminders that racism effects everyone?

You all made it your life mission to tell us that Floyd's life mattered. Okay, did Iryna's life matter? Keep in mind that unlike Floyd she's actually not a violent degenerate junkie criminal. She was a sweet innocent girl that worked for a living. But nope... nothing. Not a peep from anyone.

If Lebron really wants to show everyone how much he cares? Then yea, maybe he SHOULD speak out on black crime. Maybe he SHOULD speak out on the failure of black parenting. Maybe he SHOULD put pressure on politicians who are overly lenient to violent thugs. He wants to be more than an athlete right??? What's the harm?? Who would be hurting??

Oh that's right, he's an insecure phony fake fukk.
Now type that without crying.

[highwhey]

Now type that without crying.

:yaohappy:

[Hey Yo]

Anarchists don’t believe in prison dawg. Make mental health services free and publicly available and this stuff won’t happen.

If gym memberships were free.... there wouldn't be any fat people

Rtard3's genius logic.

[Baller234]

If gym memberships were free.... there wouldn't be any fat people

Rtard3's genius logic.

"If healthy food were cheaper, everyone would eat it..."

"If everyone knew smoking was bad, no one would smoke..."

[Baller234]

Now type that without crying.

You know who's probably crying right now? Iryna's family.

I could only imagine your condolences:

"I'm so sorry for your loss. Unfortunately I don't believe in prisons..."

[Overdrive]

Because it was a local story genius. Because it took two weeks for anyone to see the surveillance footage.

You sickos are evil.

You are evil. Pure evil. You're using the murder of an innocent person to stick it to the libs. Good job.

[Baller234]

You are evil. Pure evil. You're using the murder of an innocent person to stick it to the libs. Good job.

Stick it to the libs? No, bring about change.

[j3lademaster]

Stick it to the libs? No, bring about change.

Ok, so

1) bring awareness to racism against whites.

2) put pressure on prosecutors and the system in general to imprison violent criminals

is there more? Because I know 1000% you would be calling deploying our troops on our own people a fascist police state if Joe Biden did it.

And stop bringing up George Floyd. That's a completely different incident with a focus on police brutality and trained officers should be held to an infinitely higher standard compared to a mentally disturbed homeless scumbag.

[Yes or No]

Ok, so

1) bring awareness to racism against whites.

2) put pressure on prosecutors and the system in general to imprison violent criminals

is there more? Because I know 1000% you would be calling deploying our troops on our own people a fascist police state if Joe Biden did it.

And stop bringing up George Floyd. That's a completely different incident with a focus on police brutality and trained officers should be held to an infinitely higher standard compared to a mentally disturbed homeless scumbag.

Chauvin was an idiot because of the optics but George was going to die that day even if he just let him lay on the ground flailing around. That story was horribly reported.

[Baller234]

Ok, so

1) bring awareness to racism against whites.

2) put pressure on prosecutors and the system in general to imprison violent criminals

is there more? Because I know 1000% you would be calling deploying our troops on our own people a fascist police state if Joe Biden did it.

And stop bringing up George Floyd. That's a completely different incident with a focus on police brutality and trained officers should be held to an infinitely higher standard compared to a mentally disturbed homeless scumbag.

Wtf do you mean is there more? Shouldn't that be enough? Shouldn't that be the bare minimum? Why did it take for this singular event to occur in order for you to pay attention? Republicans have been complaining about dems and their soft on crime policies for years, not a peep. Just like republicans complained about illegal immigration for years and there wasn't a peep. You guys are always 10 years late to the party and then when the problem becomes too big to ignore, you point the finger at us like we're the problem.

Lol... and how dare you say we shouldn't bring up Floyd. That mf'er died of overdose. He was shouting "I can't breathe" the moment he was detained long before they even tried to put him in a police car. He was being held on the floor because he refused to get in the car and was violently resisting. The knee was applied to his upper shoulder, not his neck.

George Floyd was not some poor innocent victim of society. He was a violent criminal and a junkie. If he doesn't commit a crime that day, he's still alive. If he obeys police and doesn't resist, he's still alive. MAYBE. That's if he doesn't pass out due to stress because he was also high on fentanyl.

You mf'ers propped him up as a golden symbol. All under the guise of "ending racism" and bringing about change. Guess what, nothing was achieved. The worst case of police brutality this century was caught on video, Tyre Nichols, and you mf'ers said NOTHING. A black man was brutally beaten to death by black police officers and you all said NOTHING. Because Orange Face wasn't president and you weren't obligated to pretend anymore.

Society didn't fail Floyd, he was a fukking loser who failed himself, but that didn't stop you guys from going to level 10. Now we have an ACTUAL victim of society's failure. An ACTUAL victim of racism. And you mf'ers won't even make a peep about her. No hashtags, no protests, no performative virtue.

THAT'S why we bring up Floyd, because there's a clear difference in the way you guys are responding. If republicans weren't outraged over this and decided not to make a fuss, you wouldn't have even gotten the story. You wouldn't have even pretended to care. What's great about the internet though is that now everyone has a digital footprint. All the fake virtue signalers for George Floyd are about to get exposed.

And don't think this is going away. Everyone is hyper focused on this now. It won't take long for another "sweet baby angel" to terrorize or kill some random stranger. The calls for change are only going to grow stronger and louder. The silence only more and more deafening.

If you don't want us talking about Floyd, then admit it was all for a show. Admit it was all a sham ploy to try and give democrats some momentum going into the election. Admit it had nothing to do with fighting racism.

[Bill Gates]

Several high profile events happened that led up to the what was a George Floyd climax. Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and Eric Garner, Charleston church shooting, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, etc

All of that in the middle of the Kap kneeling, and BLM stuff.

It was the accumulation of many things.

So to expect a "George Floyd" reaction every single time a murder happens is not thought out or realistic.


And I can see there is media coverage from the left -

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/08/us/video/iryna-zarutska-murder-ukraine-refugee-contd-digvid

[j3lademaster]

I never said to not talk about Floyd, but it's easy to see how that particular incident is very different from Iryna's. It's false equivalence. I don't care about you strawman-ing what Lebron James said and trying to pawn that off as something I believe and stand behind, my main issue(and most people I've spoken with in real life) saw it as a police officer overstepping their bounds. Regardless of if you think Floyd died of an overdose or suffocation from a grown man's knee resting on his neck for 9 minutes, or a combination of both- is irrelevant. It's the fact that a police officer's job is to enforce the law by apprehending the criminal so the criminal can stand before trial to receive his punishment. A police officer should never administer their own form of punishment whatsoever. And before you strawman me some more, I don't have an issue with Chauvin putting his knee on George Floyd's neck UP UNTIL the cuffs were on. And for you to bring up both of these murders in comparison means you're completely missing the point of why most people were upset about the Floyd case- it's scary when a police officer that you want to be able to count on to come to your house if need be can act so emotionally, whether it was racially charged or otherwise.

[Bill Gates]

I do think that some awareness needs to come from this, it just isn't racial awareness. It is schizo awareness. I have not looked into it at all, speaking from assumption here, but I would bet that his past violations were shown leniency because he is schizophrenic. And I do think that particular mental disorder is dangerous to the public.

Because I guarantee you this man had a schizo delusion that the girl was a demon or something, that is what the disorder does.

How that is delt with? I do not know. Because locking up everyone diagnosed is not an answer. But they shouldn't be roaming around free.

[j3lademaster]

And yes, baller, I'm asking 'is there more' as in I understand the first two points I brought up in post #51, I'm trying to understand if you want our military deployed on our own civilians because of that. Because I understand the desire of only bringing military to southside chicago, but historically that has been a slippery slope. Pandora's paradox and all.

[west_tip]

The most nefarious thing about this story (and that says a lot because the crime is so barbaric it is completely unfathomable) is the fact that it took a long time for this story to become national/global.

In this clickbait era this story is literal gold for the news media given all the various elements to the story - you've got black on white angle, toxic masculinity, the public transit angle what with Daniel penny incident and the person set on fire in the subway and on and on......I mean the Ukranian war is one of the top news items and has been for three years and the victims was a Ukrainian refugee.

Yet clearly the story was surpressed. I would like to know why.

[Baller234]

I do think that some awareness needs to come from this, it just isn't racial awareness. It is schizo awareness. I have not looked into it at all, speaking from assumption here, but I would bet that his past violations were shown leniency because he is schizophrenic. And I do think that particular mental disorder is dangerous to the public.

Because I guarantee you this man had a schizo delusion that the girl was a demon or something, that is what the disorder does.

How that is delt with? I do not know. Because locking up everyone diagnosed is not an answer. But they shouldn't be roaming around free.

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"DON'T lock them up..."

"But ALSO, don't let them roam free..."


You can only pick ONE retard.

[Baller234]

And yes, baller, I'm asking 'is there more' as in I understand the first two points I brought up in post #51, I'm trying to understand if you want our military deployed on our own civilians because of that. Because I understand the desire of only bringing military to southside chicago, but historically that has been a slippery slope. Pandora's paradox and all.

Wtf does this mean... military deployed on civilians?? Who gives AF???

What do you think they'll be doing?? If you're a law abiding citizen just out and about... who cares?? What are you afraid of???

Don't give me some imaginary dystopian big brother scenario. All they're literally doing is patrolling streets and deterring criminals from acting. They aren't harassing you, they aren't bothering you. If you don't want them around, demand more from your local city's lawn enforcement.

You mf'ers are so fukking WEIRD.

[SouBeachTalents]

We really do have a mental illness epidemic in this country. Once you've committed a violent crime, I think you should be mandated to stay in a facility if you're mentally ill, their behavior is just too unpredictable.

Has it factually been established this was racially motivated? I understand the optics that she was the only white passenger on the train, but until we get confirmation on that, I'd still lean on it being a random crime driven by insanity. He sat behind her for 5 minutes being perfectly normal, then without even talking or touching her abruptly stabbed her 3 times. Imho this crime seemed to have no rhyme or reason to it, it seemed like something he did spur of the moment and was likely hallucinating while doing it. By all means, if it turns out he did this specifically because she was white, I'd have no issue admitting I was wrong.

The other passengers who literally didn't even attempt to help her and walked away are also the villains of this story, that's arguably the more depressing aspect of this. If I saw someone being stabbed I would've tried to help and call the authorities.

[j3lademaster]

It’d have to be deemed a hate crime for it to be charged federally, so yes they probably have enough evidence to determine it to be racially motivated.

[Hey Yo]

Didn't someone post a video to where you could hear him mumbling "got that white girl, got that white girl." If it wasn't racially motivated, then I doubt he'd be saying what race she was. Just speculation on my part though.

[Bill Gates]

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"DON'T lock them up..."

"But ALSO, don't let them roam free..."


You can only pick ONE retard.

No there is plenty of grey and I clearly said "I do not know the answer".

If someone is born schizo, they should not auto be locked up. But I do think they should perhaps wear a monitor? Or their meds must be observed and recorded by law. Or perhaps it is based around how often they have "episodes", etc. The ones with violent background locked up.

I do think it is very fair to say this guy should NOT have been roaming the streets. So something needs to be done there. But the problem is to have real discussion you have to get out trying to score tribal political points where you are just declaring that the issue is that all black people are bad, because that goes no where real fast.

[Baller234]

No there is plenty of grey and I clearly said "I do not know the answer".

If someone is born schizo, they should not auto be locked up. But I do think they should perhaps wear a monitor? Or their meds must be observed and recorded by law. Or perhaps it is based around how often they have "episodes", etc. The ones with violent background locked up.

I do think it is very fair to say this guy should NOT have been roaming the streets. So something needs to be done there. But the problem is to have real discussion you have to get out trying to score tribal political points where you are just declaring that the issue is that all black people are bad, because that goes no where real fast.

Point to the exact fukking moment I said "all black people are bad". Quote it.

You fukking lying coward.

[Baller234]

I love how Bill Gates says this guy shouldn't have been roaming the streets because he's a "schizo"...

... and not because he has a proven history of violent crime.

[Bill Gates]

Point to the exact fukking moment I said "all black people are bad". Quote it.

You fukking lying coward.
You're entire point is racial, it is in the thread title. You want it to be about the fact that he is black, and she is white. But also go take a valium or something. I can tell you're raging and there is no reason for that. Neither myself nor RRR are responsible and even if our thought patterns were the exact same as your own this murder still happens.

[Baller234]

You're entire point is racial, it is in the thread title. You want it to be about the fact that he is black, and she is white. But also go take a valium or something. I can tell you're raging and there is no reason for that. Neither myself nor RRR are responsible and even if our thought patterns were the exact same as your own this murder still happens.

Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.

[highwhey]

Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.

if that's all that was said with regards to race, that's questionable, highly questionable in fact.

black people refer to white people as white, so yeah...and it's not derogatory in their eyes, because truly it's not. sounds like trump is grasping at straws here since this does not meet the threshold for it being racially motivated.

[Chuckbe]

Zarutska*

At least get her name right ya filthy cretin :facepalm

[Bill Gates]

Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.

No it is about schizophrenia not skin color. Anyway, I was correct, you just want to dictate that blacks are evil, and nothing will progress from that. Did you change when someone says the white man is evil? No you get worse.

[j3lademaster]

Zarutska*

At least get her name right ya filthy cretin :facepalm

So much for pretending to care.

[Overdrive]

Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.

I wouldn't even doubt that it was racially motivated, but the whole BLM vs Antiwoke dilemma is caused by a deeply rotten dysfunctional economic state that only provides necessities to the wealthy enough.

A state that privatized both prisons and health care as for profit institutions, which even allowed for the things that led up to this murder. If the background infos are true this dude was basically funneled into a privately owned institution by the judge who held shares in that very same institution.

This murder is on more a neoliberal elitist economy - which runs deep in both dems and reps - than colour of skin or any other superficial BS you'd want to point at. Both black and white racists are useful idiots to keep the status quo and upkeep an economic system that failed over 90% of its participants for quite some time now.

But keep on eating the narrative. Vote to drain the swamp to funnel its mud into the hands of some techbros or whatever the elite of the present is at a given time, while crying communism over achievements other countries long pushed through without turning into the USSR.

[ZenMaster]

No it is about schizophrenia not skin color. Anyway, I was correct, you just want to dictate that blacks are evil, and nothing will progress from that. Did you change when someone says the white man is evil? No you get worse.

It's about the left actively making laws and working together to keep crazy people and criminals out of jail, while at the same time creating an environment where these crazy and criminals feel empowered in committing violence.

[Off the Court]

It's about the left actively making laws and working together to keep crazy people and criminals out of jail, while at the same time creating an environment where these crazy and criminals feel empowered in committing violence.
This particular murder was not about that at all. No.

Murder rates and violent crime in general have been falling hard for a long time now. There was an uptick during covid, but now that is way in the rearview and we near all time lows in that area.

This guy's criminal history is spread out over years and years, through both Dem and Republican governors and POTUS.

[RRR3]

Zarutska*

At least get her name right ya filthy cretin :facepalm
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[highwhey]

Zarutska*

At least get her name right ya filthy cretin :facepalm

damn, baller getting bodied

[Baller234]

I got the woman's name wrong.

3tard wishes for her killer to sleep comfy in his own bed tonight.

[RRR3]

Kinda hard to claim you’re outraged when you can’t even be bothered to spell her name.

[Baller234]

Kinda hard to claim you’re outraged when you can’t even be bothered to spell your name.

I copied it from a Twitter post. It was a foreign name. Didn't assume I was copying a misspelling.

This is worse than hoping her violent killer has a good night's sleep?

Should we tuck him in too? Should we order him a nice breakfast on doordash?

[RRR3]

Bawler having another psychotic episode imagining things I said

[Baller234]

Bawler having another psychotic episode imagining things I said

I'm imagining it?


Anarchists don’t believe in prison dawg. Make mental health services free and publicly available and this stuff won’t happen.

What's that?

[RRR3]

Nowhere did I say anything about hoping he had a good nights sleep. Poor bawler.

[Baller234]

Nowhere did I say anything about hoping he had a good nights sleep. Poor bawler.

Okay so if you don't think we should put the violent throat slasher in prison, what should we do with him?

[RRR3]

Obviously needs serious psychiatric help if he’s that dangerous to random people.

[Baller234]

Obviously needs serious psychiatric help if he’s that dangerous to random people.

Uh, you mean confine him against his will? You mean prison? :oldlol:

And that's what you wish to offer the violent throat slasher? HELP??

Tell us, while he's receiving this "help", what kind of bed do you think he should he be allowed to sleep on?? How many meals should he be allowed?? How much recess time should he be allowed to have??

How "cozy" should we make it for the violent racist throat slasher??

[RRR3]

You clearly need serious psychiatric help as well.

[Baller234]

You clearly need serious psychiatric help as well.

You think the throat slasher is the victim.

Maybe you're the one who needs to be locked away. You're dangerous. You can't even recognize or acknowledge evil when it's staring you right in the face.

When you witness evil, your gut instinct is to enable it. Normal people want the throat slasher to burn in hell. They don't even wanna waste the tax dollars on him. He's a vile waste of human skin. Whatever mental illness he has is irrelevant, he acted on it. He should be maimed and killed. He should meet the same fate he put his victim through.

YOU want him to get "help". YOU want him in some cozy healthcare facility where he gets 3 meals day and gets to watch TV.

This was AFTER you said you don't believe in imprisoning people, so you're really just bipolar and ALL over the place.

You have to be THEE dumbest jew in the world.

[RRR3]

You think the throat slasher is the victim.

Maybe you're the one who needs to be locked away. You're dangerous. You can't even recognize or acknowledge evil when it's staring you right in the face.

When you witness evil, your gut instinct is to enable it. Normal people want the throat slasher to burn in hell. They don't even wanna waste the tax dollars on him. He's a vile waste of human skin. Whatever mental illness he has is irrelevant, he acted on it. He should be maimed and killed. He should meet the same fate he put his victim through.

YOU want him to get "help". YOU want him in some cozy healthcare facility where he gets 3 meals day and gets to watch TV.

This was AFTER you said you don't believe in imprisoning people, so you're really just bipolar and ALL over the place.

You have to be THEE dumbest jew in the world.
Another epic meltdown :roll:


Look how worked up I get you.

[Baller234]

HIGHwhey I hope you're able to see your girlfriend in this pitiful state.

This is what your side has been reduced to.

Only going to get worse, chico.

MAGA

[RRR3]

lol this idiot thinks I like Highwhey. Poor poor feeble minded bawler. How about another post crying about a guy who wanted to murder gay people?

[Baller234]

lol this idiot thinks I like Highwhey. Poor poor feeble minded bawler. How about another post crying about a guy who wanted to murder gay people?

We are going to Make America Great Again whether you like it or not.

It's time to turn you guys into a marginalized community again.

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[RRR3]

We are going to Make America Great Again whether you like it or not.

It's time to turn you guys into a marginalized community again.

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Isn’t the leader of your movement a literal pedophile

[beasted]

Most of the people here mad about Iryna's senseless killing have never heard nor cared about Nia Wilson's murder which was nearly udentical in the facts and circumstances.

The alt-right white nationalist regime always has selective memory and outrage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Nia_Wilson

[Baller234]

Most of the people here mad about Iryna's senseless killing have never heard nor cared about Nia Wilson's murder which was nearly udentical in the facts and circumstances.

The alt-right white nationalist regime always has selective memory and outrage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Nia_Wilson

Lmao, what??

Republican politicians have been crying foul over urban decay and soft on crime policies for as long as I've been alive. :oldlol:

Don't blame us for that story going way, blame democrats. It happened in a blue city. You guys were in charge of the media back then. I guess you were too busy whining about Russia to keep Nia Wilson at the top of the headlines.

It doesn't even look like the violent sicko in that case was even charged with a hate crime, and again this was in a very liberal progressive city. That means the prosecution didn't think there was any evidence of racial targeting whatsoever and settled on him being just mentally ill. Otherwise that story would have gotten a much bigger push.

In the case of Decarlos Brown, he is clearly heard bragging about getting the white girl. That means he wasn't just a violent sicko, but was racially motivated as well. So they aren't "exact circumstances". Plus more people are politically engaged and hyper-aware of what's happening now. The average person had no idea that democrats were refusing to jail criminals. Hell before Trump was president, the average person had no idea that we were importing millions of illegals. We were all still learning.

If Nia Wilson were murdered today, republicans would ABSOLUTELY rally behind her cause. Meanwhile the left would probably try and make it all about the guy's race and totally ignore the fact that he was a violent sicko who should have been locked away.

[beasted]

Lmao, what??

Republican politicians have been crying foul over urban decay and soft on crime policies for as long as I've been alive. :oldlol:

Don't blame us for that story going way, blame democrats. It happened in a blue city. You guys were in charge of the media back then. I guess you were too busy whining about Russia to keep Nia Wilson at the top of the headlines.

It doesn't even look like the violent sicko in that case was even charged with a hate crime, and again this was in a very liberal progressive city. That means the prosecution didn't think there was any evidence of racial targeting whatsoever and settled on him being just mentally ill. Otherwise that story would have gotten a much bigger push.

In the case of Decarlos Brown, he is clearly heard bragging about getting the white girl. That means he wasn't just a violent sicko, but was racially motivated as well. So they aren't "exact circumstances". Plus more people are politically engaged and hyper-aware of what's happening now. The average person had no idea that democrats were refusing to jail criminals. Hell before Trump was president, the average person had no idea that we were importing millions of illegals. We were all still learning.

If Nia Wilson were murdered today, republicans would ABSOLUTELY rally behind her cause. Meanwhile the left would probably try and make it all about the guy's race and totally ignore the fact that he was a violent sicko who should have been locked away.

What do you mean by "today"? This happened just 6 years ago. Are you saying over the past 6 years conservatives have emerged from a philosophical cocoon and would react drastically different?

At the time it happened the rhetoric was "liberal city stuff." That's it. It wasn't that it was a hate crime driven by racism, it wasn't that we need to overhaul public transportation safety systems. It was that this is what the Dems support happening in California.

Only now that it happened in a conservative city and by a black criminal to a white woman is there an outpouring of criticism on these topics. With Iryna it's a tragedy worthy of international news. With Nia it wasn't even national news outside of the liberal media.

I dare you to find a whole white house press conference and sitting president (both Trump) commenting on the case of Nia Wilson.

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[BurningHammer]

We are going to Make America Great Again whether you like it or not.

It's time to turn you guys into a marginalized community again.

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:roll:

[warriorfan]

:roll:
you are part of what, canada? Hopefully you will accept blade and his handicapped indian relatives. Im sure that will land you a better job than you have (none). Burning Hanmer the pro wrestling fan canadian NEET.

Do better.