Hamas allegedly agrees to release all hostages

[Hey Yo]

Oct 3 (Reuters) - Hamas said on Friday it had agreed to release all Israeli hostages, alive or dead, under the terms of U.S. President Donald Trump's Gaza proposal, and signalled readiness to immediately enter mediated negotiations to discuss the details.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-it-agrees-release-all-israeli-hostages-under-trump-gaza-plan-2025-10-03/

[Patrick Chewing]

Libtards of the board where you at??

Come celebrate this win with us!


:oldlol:

[Overdrive]

Would be great if it happens.

[highwhey]

Libtards of the board where you at??

Come celebrate this win with us!


:oldlol:

Palestinian death toll in Gaza passes 64,000 :facepalm

[Patrick Chewing]

:facepalm

Hmmm maybe Hamas shouldn't have killed Israelis and taken hostages. Just saying.

[bladefd]

:facepalm

Question becomes for both HAMAS and Israel: was it worth 64,000+ deaths and countless injuries/PTSD?

What is it? 50 hostages left? Was it worth that many deaths?

[SouBeachTalents]

Thank you Biden.

[Hey Yo]

Question becomes for both HAMAS and Israel: was it worth 64,000+ deaths and countless injuries/PTSD?

What is it? 50 hostages left? Was it worth that many deaths?

How many deaths would there have been if Oct. 7th didn't happen?

[bladefd]

How many deaths would there have been if Oct. 7th didn't happen?

That's why the question is to both parties and not one singled out.

[Patrick Chewing]

How many deaths would there have been if Oct. 7th didn't happen?

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[Hey Yo]

That's why the question is to both parties and not one singled out.

Just answer the simple question

[highwhey]

How many deaths would there have been if Oct. 7th didn't happen?

"if your sister hadn't brought up the last time i beat your ass, i wouldn't be beating your ass right now"

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[Baller234]

HIGHwhey genuinely wanted those poor hostages to suffer and die in misery.

[bladefd]

Just answer the simple question

So, if Israel decides now to nuke Gaza, it's reasonable because of October 7 a couple of years ago? By that argument, Israel can slaughter every civilian in Gaza, then strike Palestine/Qatar/Iran/Lebanon/Syria to draw them all into a regional war, and you can use the "October 7" argument to justify everything from now to kingdom come. At what point will that argument stop?

"Eye for an eye makes the world blind."

[diamenz]

So, if Israel decides now to nuke Gaza, it's reasonable because of October 7 a couple of years ago? By that argument, Israel can slaughter every civilian in Gaza, then strike Palestine/Qatar/Iran/Lebanon/Syria to draw them all into a regional war, and you can use the "October 7" argument to justify everything from now to kingdom come. At what point will that argument stop?

"Eye for an eye makes the world blind."

remind us, what happened on october 4th?

israel isn't "nuking" gaza. where in the everloving *uck did you get this idea?

[bladefd]

remind us, what happened on october 4th?

israel isn't "nuking" gaza. where in the everloving *uck did you get this idea?

Date was a typo, check the post you quoted.

Re-read my post. Do I need to spell out my post for you?

[diamenz]

Re-read my post. Do I need to spell out my post for you?

no, i'll do it for you. "n-u-k-e gaza". :confusedshrug:

who told you that israel may decide to nuke gaza?

[Hey Yo]

So, if Israel decides now to nuke Gaza, it's reasonable because of October 7 a couple of years ago? By that argument, Israel can slaughter every civilian in Gaza, then strike Palestine/Qatar/Iran/Lebanon/Syria to draw them all into a regional war, and you can use the "October 7" argument to justify everything from now to kingdom come. At what point will that argument stop?

"Eye for an eye makes the world blind."

No... not at all. As long as all the hostages are released safely then there's no need to carry on. If Hamas would have agreed to earlier then there would've been less deaths. It's been up to Hamas for awhile now for how long they wanted the war to continue. Those can cry about all the deaths they want but the bottom line is... Hamas is the one who highly escalated the tension between the 2 two begin with. They're the ones who threw the sucker punch.

[Patrick Chewing]

no, i'll do it for you. "n-u-k-e gaza". :confusedshrug:

who told you that israel may decide to nuke gaza?

Nuking Gaza would be like New York nuking New Jersey. It wouldn't be good for New York.

Blade is paralyzed so let's afford him a little bit of grace.

[bladefd]

no, i'll do it for you. "n-u-k-e gaza". :confusedshrug:

who told you that israel may decide to nuke gaza?

It was a rhetorical point. Here's a rephrasing that might get through to you:

So, if Israel decides now to set martial law all of Gaza, it's reasonable because of October 7 a couple of years ago? By that argument, Israel can slaughter every civilian in Gaza, then strike Palestine/Qatar/Iran/Lebanon/Syria to draw them all into a regional war, and you can use the "October 7" argument to justify everything from now to kingdom come. At what point will that argument stop?

"Eye for an eye makes the world blind."

The overall point still stands for both sides - was all that bloodshed worth it from start to today? In war, nobody wins. It doesn't matter if the remaining 47 hostages are freed. Nobody won this war. It's not always black and white. Israel is not the hero here. Their holding back humanitarian aid was a terrible look for them and hurt civilians in camps. Tons of people died in these camps that had nothing to do with Hamas or the hostages. Israel isn't coming out of that untouched.

[1987_Lakers]

Israel and Hamas finalize Gaza peace deal

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/08/trump-says-israel-and-hamas-finalize-gaza-peace-deal-00599152

[Hey Yo]

Israel and Hamas finalize Gaza peace deal

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/08/trump-says-israel-and-hamas-finalize-gaza-peace-deal-00599152



Trump, who along with Arab allies drew up with the 20-point peace plan that was finalized over three days of talks in Egypt this week, said earlier Wednesday that he may travel to the region this weekend to put a capstone on what could be the biggest foreign policy achievement of his presidency.

A Qatari official also heralded the agreement in a post on X, writing that the two sides agreed late Wednesday “on all terms and mechanisms for implementing the first phase of the Gaza ceasefire agreement, which will lead to stopping the war, releasing Israeli detainees and Palestinian prisoners, and allowing aid to enter. The details will be announced later.”

:applause:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Trump, who along with Arab allies drew up with the 20-point peace plan that was finalized over three days of talks in Egypt this week, said earlier Wednesday that he may travel to the region this weekend to put a capstone on what could be the biggest foreign policy achievement of his presidency.

A Qatari official also heralded the agreement in a post on X, writing that the two sides agreed late Wednesday “on all terms and mechanisms for implementing the first phase of the Gaza ceasefire agreement, which will lead to stopping the war, releasing Israeli detainees and Palestinian prisoners, and allowing aid to enter. The details will be announced later.”





everyday that passes, the more & more I'm really starting to believe that Trump is the antichrist.

[Patrick Chewing]

Finally. All the Jew hate on the board will cease now.


It was interesting to see everyone's true colors these past two years. A lot of people I thought were like me ended up being absolutely disgusting and vile pieces of shit.

[diamenz]

it's great to be hopeful but i'd remain skeptical if i were you all.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Finally. All the Jew hate on the board will cease now.



Revelation 11:2, 13:5, and Daniel 12:11 noted that the beast would do this for 42 months. The first three and a half years will be a time of false peace and prosperity upon the earth, as the anti-Christ will make a treaty with the people of Israel.


Don't be deceived by these Devils.

I don't think it could be anymore clear that we are living in the end times.




and poor Charlie.... he got deceived too... married a Jazabel demon straight out of hell.

The Deception has reached unseen levels.

[Hey Yo]

Trump making the World peaceful again!!!! Hostages currently being released, have been taken to local clinics to get looked over.


WINNING!!!!

[Baller234]

To those of you on the "Israel is controlling everything" side, I ask this in good faith.

Is this all part of the plan? What happens next?

Give me your playoff predictions.

[Patrick Chewing]

To those of you on the "Israel is controlling everything" side, I ask this in good faith.

Is this all part of the plan? What happens next?

Give me your playoff predictions.

These people are idiots. Their opinions are worthless.

[JohnnySic]

What is the "Free Palestine" crowd gonna do now? Especially since it was Trump who brought peace? :oldlol:

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[ShawkFactory]

Good.

This was always going to happen though. Hamas was backed into a corner and had almost no leverage anymore, aside from the hostages.

As always between the two parties in the ME, this certainly won't be the end but it's nice that it's over for now.

[Hey Yo]

Good.

This was always going to happen though. Hamas was backed into a corner and had almost no leverage anymore, aside from the hostages.

As always between the two parties in the ME, this certainly won't be the end but it's nice that it's over for now.

Surely you're not suggesting that if Kamalluh was running the country that eventually Hamas would've just surrendered, the war would've stopped on its own and hostages would've been released without her (or anyone else for that matter) lifting a finger?

You're basically saying that there's no credit to be given here cause Hamas was going to lay down sooner or later

[diamenz]

To those of you on the "Israel is controlling everything" side, I ask this in good faith.

Is this all part of the plan? What happens next?

Give me your playoff predictions.

you're the one jumping the gun here. the entirety of this plan has yet to be seen and played out. nothing has changed in terms of the likud party's intent on ethnically cleansing palestine and pursuing the "greater israel project". their words, not mine. once all is said and done, we'll see how long this peace ends up lasting.

skepticism aside, it's certainly a shift in the right direction. hostages freed and hamas no longer governing gaza. that's great news for both sides. so where do we go from here? do we move to give these people their own state?

[ShawkFactory]

Surely you're not suggesting that if Kamalluh was running the country that eventually Hamas would've just surrendered, the war would've stopped on its own and hostages would've been released without her (or anyone else for that matter) lifting a finger?

You're basically saying that there's no credit to be given here cause Hamas was going to lay down sooner or later

I'm not giving credit, nor discrediting anyone. I actually said that this is a good thing twice. This is YOUR TDS coming out.

I'm just saying that Hamas was not winning this war. Just wasn't going to happen and they were prolonging the inevitable.

I don't know that happens if Kamala is president but there wouldn't be any less backing on Israel from our side, so likely nothing goes more positively for Hamas. Perhaps do they take longer to surrender? Maybe. Who knows.

[Hey Yo]

I'm not giving credit, nor discrediting anyone. I actually said that this is a good thing twice. This is YOUR TDS coming out.

I'm just saying that Hamas was not winning this war. Just wasn't going to happen and they were prolonging the inevitable.

I don't know that happens if Kamala is president but there wouldn't be any less backing on Israel from our side, so likely nothing goes more positively for Hamas. Perhaps do they take longer to surrender? Maybe. Who knows.

No TDS whatsoever here.... just funny you think that this was nothing more than " no negotiations or anything is needed, just wait it out cause Hamas will eventually give up" situation going on there.

[1987_Lakers]

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[Patrick Chewing]

Surely you're not suggesting that if Kamalluh was running the country that eventually Hamas would've just surrendered, the war would've stopped on its own and hostages would've been released without her (or anyone else for that matter) lifting a finger?

You're basically saying that there's no credit to be given here cause Hamas was going to lay down sooner or later

That's EXACTLY what he is saying. That there's no credit to be given to Trump simply because he's Trump and he's a Republican. There is no way in hell that ANY Democrat would have accomplished this. The Liberal brain is a poisoned brain. Full of utter bullshite.

[JohnnySic]

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[Overdrive]

That's EXACTLY what he is saying. That there's no credit to be given to Trump simply because he's Trump and he's a Republican. There is no way in hell that ANY Democrat would have accomplished this. The Liberal brain is a poisoned brain. Full of utter bullshite.

Shawk is right. Israel would have always come out on top, but Trump absolutely deserves credit. He saved 10.000s of muslim lives here. I don't think he deserves a peace nobel price as chances are Hamas will attack again, but it should definately be acknowledged what he did. Even if it doesn't last.

[Baller234]

you're the one jumping the gun here. the entirety of this plan has yet to be seen and played out. nothing has changed in terms of the likud party's intent on ethnically cleansing palestine and pursuing the "greater israel project". their words, not mine. once all is said and done, we'll see how long this peace ends up lasting.

skepticism aside, it's certainly a shift in the right direction. hostages freed and hamas no longer governing gaza. that's great news for both sides. so where do we go from here? do we move to give these people their own state?

See this is what I'm saying, you guys want it both ways.

You just said that Hamas no longer being in charge is a great thing, okay so then how was Israel not justified in taking action? Wasn't that the goal from the start? To remove Hamas from power? They could have surrendered eons ago.

As for what happens next I honestly don't know. I was hoping someone on that side of the aisle could tell me since they're the experts when it comes to Israel's grand scheme. I didn't know a peace agreement involving other middle eastern countries was part of the plan. I was informed that Bibi was Hitler and just wanted to exterminate goyim.

[diamenz]

See this is what I'm saying, you guys want it both ways.

You just said that Hamas no longer being in charge is a great thing, okay so then how was Israel not justified in taking action? Wasn't that the goal from the start? To remove Hamas from power? They could have surrendered eons ago.

As for what happens next I honestly don't know. I was hoping someone on that side of the aisle could tell me since they're the experts when it comes to Israel's grand scheme. I didn't know a peace agreement involving other middle eastern countries was part of the plan. I was informed that Bibi was Hitler and just wanted to exterminate goyim.

why are you always being glib? do you want to have an honest discussion on the subject or is all that's important to you is the drama side of it? what's your focus gonna be bro? substance or dramatics?


You just said that Hamas no longer being in charge is a great thing, okay so then how was Israel not justified in taking action? Wasn't that the goal from the start? To remove Hamas from power?

why do you assume that you know where i stand on this?

there is no "you guys". engage with individuals honestly and directly.

i can only speak for myself and i feel the need to make that clear because i know you love to conflate and associate the extreme side and views of any issue with whomever you're engaging with here. hamas aren't my heros, just to clarify. :rolleyes: so can we establish that much and move on? you wamt to stoop to this trivial shit? are we really doing this?

...because i recall you stating that you don't want to be conflated with the pro-israelis out there that are quick point the anti-semitic finger at the slightest criticism of israel. fine, fair enough. completely understandable and reasonable. but don't turn around and be a hypocrite too - either that or just *ucking own your hypocrisy.

you didn't answer my question. if hamas removes themselves from power, hands gaza over to a "neutral" government, whatever that my end up being as well as of course release the remaining hostages, should the united states push israel to work towards a two state solution? or will be just revert back to the way it was before oct 7th and continue to allow israel to keep their boot on the neck of these people until?

[ShawkFactory]

No TDS whatsoever here.... just funny you think that this was nothing more than " no negotiations or anything is needed, just wait it out cause Hamas will eventually give up" situation going on there.

There certainly is TDS. I was giving my thoughts on the matter with nothing pointed at Trump whatsoever. Just the big picture thoughts. I even stated that this was a good thing twice. TWO TIMES.

But because I didn’t specifically praise Trump in the post you got in your feels.

[Hey Yo]

There certainly is TDS. I was giving my thoughts on the matter with nothing pointed at Trump whatsoever. Just the big picture thoughts. I even stated that this was a good thing twice. TWO TIMES.

But because I didn’t specifically praise Trump in the post you got in your feels.

I wasn't looking for you to praise him, just it's ridiculous for you to claim that nothing had to be done by anyone. That all that needed to be done was to sit back, hurry up and wait till Hamas contacts who they need to ...to say "the war is over and here's where we'll meet for a prisoner swap." It's just dumb logic, chico.

Imagine being President and telling families of prisoners... "just wait, they'll be dropped off sooner or later"

[ShawkFactory]

I wasn't looking for you to praise him, just it's ridiculous for you to claim that nothing had to be done by anyone. That all that needed to be done was to sit back, hurry up and wait till Hamas contacts who they need to ...to say "the war is over and here's where we'll meet for a prisoner swap." It's just dumb logic, chico.

Imagine being President and telling families of prisoners... "just wait, they'll be dropped off sooner or later"

That's not what I said. Yes I do believe that their surrender was ultimately inevitable, but that it's good that it happened now and it DID require action to a degree. However, they had very little leverage in any deal and likely knew this. Basically, something..ANYTHING had to be brought to the table and they would agree at this point.

Should have happened a while ago but I think it took some of the public questioning Netanyahu and the IDF for Israel to accept this as well. If people weren't divided and everyone was staunchly pro-Israel in this conflict then this likely doesn't happen.

[Baller234]

why are you always being glib? do you want to have an honest discussion on the subject or is all that's important to you is the drama side of it? what's your focus gonna be bro? substance or dramatics?



why do you assume that you know where i stand on this?

there is no "you guys". engage with individuals honestly and directly.

i can only speak for myself and i feel the need to make that clear because i know you love to conflate and associate the extreme side and views of any issue with whomever you're engaging with here. hamas aren't my heros, just to clarify. :rolleyes: so can we establish that much and move on? you wamt to stoop to this trivial shit? are we really doing this?

...because i recall you stating that you don't want to be conflated with the pro-israelis out there that are quick point the anti-semitic finger at the slightest criticism of israel. fine, fair enough. completely understandable and reasonable. but don't turn around and be a hypocrite too - either that or just *ucking own your hypocrisy.

you didn't answer my question. if hamas removes themselves from power, hands gaza over to a "neutral" government, whatever that my end up being as well as of course release the remaining hostages, should the united states push israel to work towards a two state solution? or will be just revert back to the way it was before oct 7th and continue to allow israel to keep their boot on the neck of these people until?

If Hamas is removed from power and the new government shows interest in peacefully co-existing, why wouldn't Israel try and cut a deal? They've been trying for decades now but every single proposal has been rejected.

You'll have to forgive me being "glib" because just a few short months ago half this forum became totally unhinged. They swore up and down that we were on the verge of WW3 and that Darth Bibi was going to summon american soldiers to die on behalf of Israel and carry out his bloodthirsty conquest. Fast forward to present day and now we're talking about a peace deal in the entire region.

Having an honest discussion means admitting you were wrong and jumped the gun.

[Overdrive]

That's not what I said. Yes I do believe that their surrender was ultimately inevitable, but that it's good that it happened now and it DID require action to a degree. However, they had very little leverage in any deal and likely knew this. Basically, something..ANYTHING had to be brought to the table and they would agree at this point.

Should have happened a while ago but I think it took some of the public questioning Netanyahu and the IDF for Israel to accept this as well. If people weren't divided and everyone was staunchly pro-Israel in this conflict then this likely doesn't happen.

As I said a few days ago. This guy obviously has problems functionally understanding what he reads. Would explain alot of his angry posts.

[Hey Yo]

As I said a few days ago. This guy obviously has problems functionally understanding what he reads. Would explain alot of his angry posts.

What didn't I understand?

He suggested nothing needed to be done cause it would've ended anyways. You agreeing with him is dumb, but you're both on the same side so not surprising that you agree with "dont worry, Hamas will eventually give up" strategy.

[ShawkFactory]

As I said a few days ago. This guy obviously has problems functionally understanding what he reads. Would explain alot of his angry posts.

Still :lol

[Doomsday Dallas]

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[Hey Yo]

Still :lol


but that it's good that it happened now and it DID require action to a degree
:lol

I definitely read you changing your tune correctly.

[ShawkFactory]

:lol

I definitely read you changing your tune correctly.

Further explaining myself because you took my initial comment the wrong way (maybe it was partially my fault for not being clear) is not me changing my tune. My stance is the same. I explained further and you still seem confused.

[Hey Yo]

How can "the war would've eventually ended anyways" be read the wrong way??

If you meant something else, then that's on you. Not my fault you fukked up, all I did was point it out while you eventually back tracked and changed what you said.

[ShawkFactory]

How can "the war would've eventually ended anyways" be read the wrong way??

If you meant something else, then that's on you. Not my fault you fukked up, all I did was point it out while you eventually back tracked and changed what you said.

I said that because it's true. I also said I was glad that it happened now. What I didn't say, and what you incorrectly took from what I said, is that nothing needed to be done. And this is because you perceived me saying that as slighting Trump and his legendary deal-making capabilities. I know this because you mentioned Kamala in the first few words.

Both sides were under enormous pressure to call this off. Hamas because they were objectively losing and Israel because the international zeitgeist was starting to shift away from supporting them and the IDF tactics. Neither had much leverage in the long run and accepting this ceasefire deal was in the best interest of both.

How about this:


This was always going to happen though

..Hamas was always going agree to back out as soon as a deal was in place that Israel would accept. They had already lost and it would be in their best interest. Glad it happened sooner than later.

THAT is what I meant. Happy?

[Overdrive]

How can "the war would've eventually ended anyways" be read the wrong way??

If you meant something else, then that's on you. Not my fault you fukked up, all I did was point it out while you eventually back tracked and changed what you said.

Holy shit. You really have to lay out stuff for you like for a six year old right?

War would've ended anyway.
Would've taken longer.
Hostages would've been dead.
More palis would've been dead.
Good job by the Trump admin.
That spared alot of lives.

Got it? Highlighted the most important part for you.

[diamenz]

If Hamas is removed from power and the new government shows interest in peacefully co-existing, why wouldn't Israel try and cut a deal? They've been trying for decades now but every single proposal has been rejected.

You'll have to forgive me being "glib" because just a few short months ago half this forum became totally unhinged. They swore up and down that we were on the verge of WW3 and that Darth Bibi was going to summon american soldiers to die on behalf of Israel and carry out his bloodthirsty conquest. Fast forward to present day and now we're talking about a peace deal in the entire region.

Having an honest discussion means admitting you were wrong and jumped the gun.

right so address those individuals directly. surely you have their posts bookmarked or logged given how adamant you are about holding people to account around here. link their exact words that match what you just outlined and put their asses in check. half the forum, right? you've got your work cut out for you.

...or is this just another "yOu GuYz"!!! with your blanket, low effort finger pointing. "who's gone and criticized israel here??? yeah - they're a part of what i'm talking about"! :rolleyes:

man your schtick is underwhelming. it's so uninteresting bro.

[diamenz]

right so address those individuals directly. surely you have their posts bookmarked or logged given how adamant you are about holding people to account around here. link their exact words that match what you just outlined and put their asses in check. half the forum, right? you've got your work cut out for you.



so have you begun work on this project? or are you going to continue with the "you guys" schtick to make your arguments?

[Baller234]

so have you begun work on this project? or are you going to continue with the "you guys" schtick to make your arguments?

You asked for it:


will we be pulled in if israel proceeds? of course we will. just put it on our national credit card.

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gas prices about to skyrocket like you've never seen. stay tuned, fellow americans...

Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/us/politics/iran-us-iraq-diplomats-middle-east.html)


iran's missle program is the wild card here. if it's as impressive as some have said it is, israelis better be hunkered down.

https://i.ibb.co/WbPHwZr/Screenshot-20250612-214151.png


yup. worst case scenario, if or when iran retaliates, beholden us politicians will use it as an excuse to go nuts on msm calling iran's attack "unprovoked"! and start the propaganda campaign to lead us into the conflict.


...that's not to mention the thousands of non-combat troops that we currently have stationed throughout the region who are sitting ducks right now. but you'd like them to get hit wouldn't you, chewing - that way we'd be forced to join into the fray with israel in their aggression.


our "representative" in the region? of what exactly? mass murder and ethnic cleansing?

you're asking me if china's interests in keeping their economy stable and humming is comparable to the so called intelligence that we get from israel in regard to things like iraqi wmd's and failing to prevent some broke ass thugs from carrying out oct 7th?


we can't rule out of the possibility that israel may use a low-yield nuclear weapon in order to inflict sufficient enough damage on the two main underground nuclear facilities that everyone is talking about if the 30,000lbs bombs don't get the job done or there's the off chance that they won't.


^What's the common thread in these posts?

- False predictions
- Fear mongering
- Worst possible interpretations of US/Israel's motives
- Zero mention of Hamas's role in the conflict
- Zero mention of Iran's role in the conflct

Jeez if I didn't know better Diamenz I'd say you're totally full of shit.

[highwhey]

You asked for it:














^What's the common thread in these posts?

- False predictions
- Fear mongering
- Worst possible interpretations of US/Israel's motives
- Zero mention of Hamas's role in the conflict
- Zero mention of Iran's role in the conflct

Jeez if I didn't know better Diamenz I'd say you're totally full of shit.

what a fukking meltdown. get some help.

[diamenz]

You asked for it:














^What's the common thread in these posts?

- False predictions
- Fear mongering
- Worst possible interpretations of US/Israel's motives
- Zero mention of Hamas's role in the conflict
- Zero mention of Iran's role in the conflct

Jeez if I didn't know better Diamenz I'd say you're totally full of shit.

:lol. this holds me to account on absolutely nothing.

what, you think our "quarrels" with iran are over with? you're really gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face that this shit is over with. so what happens when we get "word" that iraq, er excuse me - iran has renewed their nuclear program?

do you not believe that it's currently part of the israeli's government agenda to enact regime change in iran in interest of their national security? or are we just going to bunker buster bomb them until eternity. just how naive do you have to be to think we've seen the end to this conflict?

so who's the one that's full of shit? although i do commend your efforts to hold my feet to the fire. someone has to be the arbiter of accountability, truth and hypocrisy around here. but who's watching the watchman?

[Patrick Chewing]

You asked for it:














^What's the common thread in these posts?

- False predictions
- Fear mongering
- Worst possible interpretations of US/Israel's motives
- Zero mention of Hamas's role in the conflict
- Zero mention of Iran's role in the conflct

Jeez if I didn't know better Diamenz I'd say you're totally full of shit.

Destroyed him :applause:

[highwhey]

:lol. this holds me to account on absolutely nothing.

what, you think our "quarrels" with iran are over with? you're really gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face that this shit is over with. so what happens when we get "word" that iraq, er excuse me - iran has renewed their nuclear program?

do you not believe that it's currently part of the israeli's government agenda to enact regime change in iran in interest of their national security? or are we just going to bunker buster bomb them until eternity. just how naive do you have to be to think we've seen the end to this conflict?

so who's the one that's full of shit? although i do commend your efforts to hold my feet to the fire. someone has to be the arbiter of accountability, truth and hypocrisy around here. but who's watching the watchman?

Destroyed him :applause:

[Baller234]

:lol. this holds me to account on absolutely nothing.

what, you think our "quarrels" with iran are over with? you're really gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face that this shit is over with. so what happens when we get "word" that iraq, er excuse me - iran has renewed their nuclear program?

do you not believe that it's currently part of the israeli's government agenda to enact regime change in iran in interest of their national security? or are we just going to bunker buster bomb them until eternity. just how naive do you have to be to think we've seen the end to this conflict?

so who's the one that's full of shit? although i do commend your efforts to hold my feet to the fire. someone has to be the arbiter of accountability, truth and hypocrisy around here. but who's watching the watchman?

Of course the goal is regime change. What are you fukking retarded? What else could it be? You think Israel is the only one that wants regime change in Iran? You're aware the U.S. has other allies in the middle east beyond Israel right?

"But what if Iran strikes back!?!?"

Uh, if Iran tries to get cute it gets the hose again. What exactly is so confusing about this. Even if they tried, this most recent FAFO set them back at least a decade.

Trump and the other leaders made it clear to Iran that a prosperous future awaits if they are willing to become more moderate. It's either that or they could keep fighting and getting their shit pushed in to eternity. You should see pictures of Iran in the 70's before the islamic revolution, it looked like a normal country once.

Seriously, WHAT THE F*CK are you even complaining about???

[diamenz]

Of course the goal is regime change. What are you fukking retarded? What else could it be? You think Israel is the only one that wants regime change in Iran? You're aware the U.S. has other allies in the middle east beyond Israel right?

"But what if Iran strikes back!?!?"

Uh, if Iran tries to get cute it gets the hose again. What exactly is so confusing about this. Even if they tried, this most recent FAFO set them back at least a decade.

Trump and the other leaders made it clear to Iran that a prosperous future awaits if they are willing to become more moderate. It's either that or they could keep fighting and getting their shit pushed in to eternity. You should see pictures of Iran in the 70's before the islamic revolution, it looked like a normal country once.

Seriously, WHAT THE F*CK are you even complaining about???

can you not appreciate my concern over our potential involvement in a forced regime change given our history? look, if israel goes it all on their own then *uck it, have at it. if it's coerced with our assistance then i might say something negative but i'm not going to go out of my way to trip out about it.

but let's be real - if it happens, it will be through military force and it will involve us and i certainly don't believe that limiting our involvement to sea & air will win the day.


...and if you're quick to assume that it will be any easier than iraq, well then i'll just say that you're a very optimistic fellow.