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1987_Lakers
10-10-2025, 10:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmxc8oUsLOg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7tx8VIm1xk

HylianNightmare
10-11-2025, 01:13 PM
Finally there affordable again.

1987_Lakers
10-11-2025, 02:16 PM
People are starting to realize LeBron is the true GOAT

Kblaze8855
10-11-2025, 03:09 PM
The new ones Maybe. If you go outside around the kind of people to Wear sneakers for fashion you’re gonna see Jordan’s every day. You just don’t play in them or take walks or anything like that.

Kblaze8855
10-11-2025, 03:12 PM
The new ones Maybe. If you go outside around the kind of people to Wear sneakers for fashion you’re gonna see Jordan’s every day. You just don’t play in them or take walks or anything like that.

1987_Lakers
10-11-2025, 03:20 PM
People really used to wear Jordan concord 11s in a suit. Smh.

Most overrated shoe ever btw. Patent leather on a sneaker? Yuck.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/complex/images/Y19jcm9wLGhfMjc2NCx3XzIyNjEseF8wLHlfMTQ3/rbba81tk0a0fgyluuwxc/dwyane-wade-chris-paul-air-jordan-11-concord.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cb/9c/84/cb9c848182e5351fc4114085b82f036f.jpg

1987_Lakers
10-11-2025, 03:30 PM
I’ve always wanted to rock a pair of Concords with a tux. Finally did it at the Golden Globes last week.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sneakers/comments/1i1htxz/ive_always_wanted_to_rock_a_pair_of_concords_with/

Why? :oldlol:

Kblaze8855
10-11-2025, 03:48 PM
Jordan’s graduated to business casual and above long ago. I knew rich people wearing Jordan’s in business settings 20 years ago.

1987_Lakers
10-11-2025, 04:13 PM
Jordan’s graduated to business casual and above long ago. I knew rich people wearing Jordan’s in business settings 20 years ago.

Lets be honest, Jordan shoes are far from business casual. Most Jordans only look good on kids and teenagers, way too boxy for an adult.

I personally only wear the Jordan 3s and low top 1s.... MAYBE the 4s, but they are too boxy. I would feel like a clown walking around with this...

https://static.nike.com/a/images/w_1280,q_auto,f_auto/buk3nt3hqhwd4abtsa2j/air-jordan-15-retro-og-black-varsity-red.jpg

https://images.stockx.com/images/Air-Jordan-23-All-Star-Product.jpg?fit=fill&bg=FFFFFF&w=700&h=500&fm=webp&auto=compress&q=90&dpr=2&trim=color&updated_at=1738193358

L.Kizzle
10-11-2025, 04:30 PM
Eventually, people are gonna realize I already own these. Actually, I have them 4x over already.

When you release the same shoes every years what do you expect.

3ba11
10-11-2025, 05:25 PM
Oversupply doesn't = "no one is buying"

it's just oversupply

1987_Lakers
10-11-2025, 05:51 PM
Oversupply doesn't = "no one is buying"

it's just oversupply

Jordan Brand Revenue Sinks 16% During Nike’s Fiscal Year

The worst-performing Nike segment was the Jordan Brand, where revenue fell 16% for the year to $7.3 billion. Men’s, which represents roughly half the business, and women’s were both down 6%, while kids’ dipped 5%.

https://www.sportico.com/business/commerce/2025/nike-jordan-brand-revenue-declines-1234858242/

GOBB
10-12-2025, 10:08 AM
Calling the concords overrated lets me know your dresser is really your closet.


I don’t even know if new Jordan’s are being released. Heck no one wore the jumpmans unless you had a shoe deal with them. Retro Jordan’s will always be a thing. They will always cost.

GOBB
10-12-2025, 10:16 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPo2z9mibN2/?igsh=aXM2MjEwbWt5YjN0


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPfEJcoCTil/?igsh=dW5tMnZzcWZ3NXAx



These links speak on the overrated concords…


https://houseofheat.co/jordan/5-best-air-jordan-11-colorways-all-time


https://www.soleretriever.com/news/articles/the-top-10-best-air-jordan-11-sneakers-of-all-time

https://www.gq.com/story/greatest-air-jordan-11-colorways

Kblaze8855
10-12-2025, 10:33 AM
Lets be honest, Jordan shoes are far from business casual. Most Jordans only look good on kids and teenagers, way too boxy for an adult.

I personally only wear the Jordan 3s and low top 1s.... MAYBE the 4s, but they are too boxy. I would feel like a clown walking around with this...

https://static.nike.com/a/images/w_1280,q_auto,f_auto/buk3nt3hqhwd4abtsa2j/air-jordan-15-retro-og-black-varsity-red.jpg

https://images.stockx.com/images/Air-Jordan-23-All-Star-Product.jpg?fit=fill&bg=FFFFFF&w=700&h=500&fm=webp&auto=compress&q=90&dpr=2&trim=color&updated_at=1738193358

There are hundreds of versions of these shoes over 40 years. Of course you can find something that wouldn’t be appropriate in some situations. But that same variety is why they’re worn in so many situations. Like I said, I’ve known people with money who did significant business for decades who wore Jordans. And it damn sure wasn’t for performance.

You can think it’s whatever you want. The fact remains people have worn it that way with nobody having a problem with it. Places with dress codes will let you in wearing some clean Jordans If the Total look is appropriate.

I’ve heard Yeezy’s are the same, but by the time they blew up I wasn’t in situations to find out.

1987_Lakers
10-12-2025, 10:45 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPo2z9mibN2/?igsh=aXM2MjEwbWt5YjN0


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPfEJcoCTil/?igsh=dW5tMnZzcWZ3NXAx



These links speak on the overrated concords…


https://houseofheat.co/jordan/5-best-air-jordan-11-colorways-all-time


https://www.soleretriever.com/news/articles/the-top-10-best-air-jordan-11-sneakers-of-all-time

https://www.gq.com/story/greatest-air-jordan-11-colorways

I know the 11s are considered a top 4 Jordan ever. I actually think the Bred 11s don't look too bad. But the Concord 11s look hideous to me, at least for casual wear. The fact that it's a white shoe only highlights the patent leather even more which makes it look ridiculous for street wear. It was probably fire in the 90's when it got released, but now they just look goofy. They have not aged well

3s are the best Jordans ever. You have some people go with 1s as their choice for GOAT, but they look too much like other Nike shoes from the 80's, didn't really revolutionize the shoe game and nobody really wore 1s in the 90's & 00's. Other people go with the 4s, but the 3s were the real game changers, they were the reason why Jordan shoes really blew up. It was the first shoe to have the jumpman logo and have aged really well with time, unlike the Concord 11s.

https://media.gq.com/photos/673f6e939ebd5b1615ed235a/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/jordans.jpg

1987_Lakers
10-12-2025, 10:53 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/sneakerhead/comments/aludeo/my_friends_think_that_air_jordan_11_concord_are/

The friends were right.

GOBB
10-12-2025, 10:59 AM
1, 3, 4 no order are often often argued as the best Jordan ever. It’s close it comes down to personal preference. 4’s are goated for me. The looks tops them both. 3’s are probably more comfortable.

Baller234
10-12-2025, 11:15 AM
I know the 11s are considered a top 4 Jordan ever. I actually think the Bred 11s don't look too bad. But the Concord 11s look hideous to me, at least for casual wear. The fact that it's a white shoe only highlights the patent leather even more which makes it look ridiculous for street wear. It was probably fire in the 90's when it got released, but now they just look goofy. They have not aged well

They are basketball sneakers first. On the court they were they iconic.

Im Still Ballin
10-12-2025, 11:28 AM
Aren't basketball shoes not selling well in general? Them HOKA, On Cloud casual/fashionable jogging shoes are hot right now, I think. They're like a middle ground between running shoes and streetwear.

Soundwave
10-12-2025, 01:15 PM
These numbers are all over the place, last year Jordan Brand was one of Nike's best divisions and the basketball division was performing like shit:

https://www.sportico.com/business/commerce/2024/nike-revenue-jordan-brand-billion-1234785967/

Jordan Brand sales have doubled since 2020 while Nike's Basketball division has declined.

The thing is this year they're releasing a lot of colorways that I don't think people are that crazy about. Aqua 8s and Grape 5s ... I mean those aren't really as iconic as Nike thinks, the Grape 5 is more associated with Will Smith wearing them on Fresh Prince, Jordan never played in that colorway.

It's also freaking expensive in this economy, $200+ for a retro shoe when a lot of people are in trouble trying to pay bills, that's one of the first luxuries that can get cut.

They're not releasing colorways/models that are most popular with the public. Say what you want about things like the Concord or Space Jam 11s ... those would sell out fast, Nike hasn't offered them in like 8-10 years. They have like 8 different colorways to celebrate the XIs this year but they're not releasing any of the OG colorways that people actually want. Like I don't want a freaking purple Air Jordan XI.

Nike is overproducing some shoes and not making enough of other models, like the Air Jordan X Steel released this year but in extremely limited quantities and sold out immediately. Now I know the X isn't the most popular shoe but that was a ridiculously limited run. Also things like the white/red double nickle Xs would sell, but again Nike released that like 10 years ago and isn't releasing them again.

They did release the flu game 12s this year (not my favorite colorway) but those pretty much sold out ... because its an iconic colorway. But French Blue 12s? I get that Kobe wore them briefly, but in this economy how many people got $200+ lying around and must have those. I can do that, but I know a lot of people can't afford that right now.

Yes or No
10-12-2025, 01:40 PM
Who gives a flying **** about shoes except for early 20s and younger? lol

If you aren't buying shoes almost exclusively for physical comfort, you are a dumbass or very young.

You're too worried about your perceived status from others, you aren't a confident person and you aren't pragmatic whatsoever.

Soundwave
10-12-2025, 01:47 PM
Like this year is the Jordan XI's anniversary year, so they're releasing it in a bunch of colorways that no one asked for

https://www.nicekicks.com/files/2025/09/001_air-jordan-11-h-town-r-lat-1-scaled-e1759120259567.jpghttps://justfreshkicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/air-jordan-11-gs-inner-beast-ib1378-001.webp

https://www.nicekicks.com/files/2025/08/air-jordan-11-retro-rare-air-E5A48DE588BBE794B7E5AD90E8BF90E58AA8E99E8B-iOivRHDE-1-1200x1200.jpg

Just release the damn OG Concord model, that's what people want.

https://www.nicekicks.com/files/2009/12/michael-jordan-wearing-air-jordan-11.jpg

1987_Lakers
10-12-2025, 01:49 PM
Like this year is the Jordan XI's anniversary year, so they're releasing it in a bunch of colorways that no one asked for

https://preview.redd.it/in-case-youre-wondering-what-aj-11-are-coming-out-in-the-v0-rhbdu2pel2ue1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&2ce3b300

Just release the damn OG Concord model, that's what people want.

https://www.nicekicks.com/files/2009/12/michael-jordan-wearing-air-jordan-11.jpg

Nike smartened up and realized those shoes are trash.

Soundwave
10-12-2025, 01:54 PM
Nike smartened up and realized those shoes are trash.

Hate to break it to you but the 11s are and always will be an iconic basketball shoe. Nike still releases a retro of the 11 every Christmas as basically their "big release" of the year because they sell.

They're just not giving people the colorways they want. OG Concord or Bred playoffs (regular cut not low top) or Space Jam XIs would sell out just like the Flu Game 12s sold out.

StrongLurk
10-12-2025, 03:12 PM
Who gives a flying **** about shoes except for early 20s and younger? lol

If you aren't buying shoes almost exclusively for physical comfort, you are a dumbass or very young.

You're too worried about your perceived status from others, you aren't a confident person and you aren't pragmatic whatsoever.

Pretty much all black men 40 and under care a lot.

Soundwave
10-12-2025, 03:33 PM
Pretty much all black men 40 and under care a lot.

Obviously Jordan's (especially the classic models, meaning 1-14 models) have a lot of sway within the black community, but tons of white kids, asian kids, latino kids also rock Jordans.

Last year was a soft year for Jordan brand sales, but I don't they released a lot of models that I just don't think are that popular, even the "big" holiday sneaker was the Columbia (white/white/blue) XIs ... which are kind of more of a niche shoe, even in 1996 that colorway wasn't that popular.

Release more of the classic shoes in the classic colorways and the sales will be there.

Soundwave
10-12-2025, 03:39 PM
The article doesn't even seem to make sense. The same source that is saying revenue declined by 16% said revenue was up 6% the prior year to 7 billion. But they're also saying revenue was 7.3 billion for 2025 ... but that's an increase over 7 billion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKQKZTnXMAEBjyx?format=png&name=large

They hit $7 billion in 2024:

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D4D12AQHxL6Nkqux_vg/article-inline_image-shrink_1000_1488/article-inline_image-shrink_1000_1488/0/1724766968583?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=m2adHsW3My28IWRYUiCdXBWKrbM8lUNCCRIcvYZ6-K8

Now it was $7.3 billion for 2025 according to this source.

Maybe there is variance between the fiscal year and calendar year terms but that doesn't indicate a declining brand at all.

Revenue for Jordan brand has more than doubled now since 2020. 3.6 billion to 7.3 billion in 5 years time is incredible growth actually, Nike's general basketball division has declined in that time, almost all sneaker brands are down, Jordan brand is more than double where it was a few years ago.

L.Kizzle
10-12-2025, 03:49 PM
Aren't basketball shoes not selling well in general? Them HOKA, On Cloud casual/fashionable jogging shoes are hot right now, I think. They're like a middle ground between running shoes and streetwear.

People don't actually buy Jordan's and other basketball shoes to hoop in. Crazy as that sounds.

Norcaliblunt
10-12-2025, 04:08 PM
Basketball shoes are straight up wack.

The OP wears basketball shoes and bumps dead guys like Jacka.

A WAX beyatch.

Kblaze8855
10-12-2025, 04:15 PM
Who gives a flying **** about shoes except for early 20s and younger? lol

If you aren't buying shoes almost exclusively for physical comfort, you are a dumbass or very young.

You're too worried about your perceived status from others, you aren't a confident person and you aren't pragmatic whatsoever.

if the sneaker industry had to survive off early 20s and younger, it would’ve gone out of business long ago. And it feels like you aren’t considering the existence of women at all. They’re half the population and more than that when it comes to people who care a tremendous amount about individual articles of clothing.

you might as well be asking who cares about shirts…or suit jackets. The answer is always gonna be millions of people. I don’t know what you get out of pretending you don’t know they exist.

Plenty of millionaires walking around with extensive shoe collections.

It’s no more or less valid than collecting anything else. So much of life ****ing sucks. I think I’ve grown out of criticizing people for hobbies that don’t happen to be mine.

1987_Lakers
10-12-2025, 04:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQGCz9C9miM

Norcaliblunt
10-12-2025, 04:31 PM
Jordan’s are not shoes to wear with shorts.

So Cal is shorts culture.

My experience living in Southern California is that fools don’t wear Jordans.

They rock Chuck T’s, Nike Cortez, and Vans.

Jordan’s? Not all that.

warriorfan
10-12-2025, 04:41 PM
1, 3, 4 no order are often often argued as the best Jordan ever. It’s close it comes down to personal preference. 4’s are goated for me. The looks tops them both. 3’s are probably more comfortable.

This is the first Gobb post that isn’t retarded as ****

Yes or No
10-12-2025, 05:38 PM
if the sneaker industry had to survive off early 20s and younger, it would’ve gone out of business long ago. And it feels like you aren’t considering the existence of women at all. They’re half the population and more than that when it comes to people who care a tremendous amount about individual articles of clothing.

you might as well be asking who cares about shirts…or suit jackets. The answer is always gonna be millions of people. I don’t know what you get out of pretending you don’t know they exist.

Plenty of millionaires walking around with extensive shoe collections.

It’s no more or less valid than collecting anything else. So much of life ****ing sucks. I think I’ve grown out of criticizing people for hobbies that don’t happen to be mine.

Ok re: women fair enough but give some context to the situation. We're talking about Jordans/basketball shoes for style and obviously the major consumers of those are men.

Jordans themselves are probably being purchased by 90% men but I don't have the data for that. Nikes themselves are already 2/3rds men and if you branch off into Jordans specifically I have to believe it's substantially higher.

That being said, you want to compare male shoeheads to women? Go right ahead. It's a fair comparison.

Most women are far more interested in perceived social status than anything else and that echoes what I said about people in general being worried about shoes.

Kblaze8855
10-12-2025, 06:12 PM
I Having Jordans makes you a sneaker head. Especially when it comes to women. A great number of women I’ve known in life would get sneakers they thought looked cute.

I happened to be in Vegas when Aja Wilson shoe first came out and they were booming.

She plays there, but I see them a couple thousand miles away where I live and I don’t think most of those people care about the WNBA. It’s just a cute article of clothing for most women in my experience.

My girlfriend has Jordans and I swear I’m not 100% sure she would know Michael Jordan if he were at the door. She would know he’s somebody she’s seen before, but I don’t know that she would know who it is.

She goes through life, somehow not recognizing some of the most famous people you can imagine.

1987_Lakers
10-13-2025, 10:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn3Asxn3oPA

Soundwave
10-15-2025, 01:14 AM
The release schedule is kind of stupid too, like they released the Purple "Fresh Prince" 5s like a few weeks before the Fire Red 5s and now they just released like a white/black/pink variant of the 5s too.

This year had both the Flu Game 12s (black/red), but also the French Blue/white 12s (that Kobe wore) and in a month they're releasing the OG Taxi 12s (white/black/gold) ...

Even if you like the Jordan 5s or 12s ... I mean who can afford to buy like 2-3 versions of the same shoe, of course some of them are going to sit.

Same thing with the Jordan 8s, this year has the Aqua 8s but also the white/gray/red Bugs Bunny 8s. You're just splitting the audience for that shoe.

And then there's like 10 versions of the Air Jordan XI coming this fall, but none in any of the OG colorways and most of them in weird colorways like black and neon green with no patent leather (wtf).

People also know there's no point in buying a lot of these shoes day 1 ... you can find them at Foot Locker or the Nike Outlet for 25%-40% off if you wait a few weeks on a lot of models, that doesn't just go for Jordan retros, pretty much any shoe model. Luka's sneakers are easy to get heavily discounted, Zions, Tatums, LeBrons, Morants ... all this stuff you can just wait and get them discounted. The stuff that sells out instantly or very rapidly are things like the Jordan X Steel, which Nike made in extremely low quantities, and things like the Flu Game 12s and Cool Grey 9s sold out, though not instantly.

Soundwave
10-15-2025, 01:27 AM
Jordan’s are not shoes to wear with shorts.

So Cal is shorts culture.

My experience living in Southern California is that fools don’t wear Jordans.

They rock Chuck T’s, Nike Cortez, and Vans.

Jordan’s? Not all that.


I'd much rather wear a nice colorway of Jordan 1 Lows than fugly Vans or Chuck Taylors. Chuck Taylors had their time as the iconic retro shoe but they're terrible quality, I think the Jordan 1 has replaced them as the iconic retro shoe of today.

1987_Lakers
10-15-2025, 08:17 AM
I'd much rather wear a nice colorway of Jordan 1 Lows than fugly Vans or Chuck Taylors. Chuck Taylors had their time as the iconic retro shoe but they're terrible quality, I think the Jordan 1 has replaced them as the iconic retro shoe of today.

Nobody even wore Jordan 1s in the 90s and 00s & they look too similar to AF1 which came out before Jordan 1. They re-released in the mid 90's and didn't sell out, nobody really cared for them. The popularity of Jordan 1s came back in the 2010's.

Chuck Taylors came out over 100 years ago and people still wear them today, they are more iconic. In middle school around 2004/2005 me and my friends all wore chucks and were known as the "chuck crew". :lol

I would say Air Force 1 is the most iconic shoe today. People have consistently worn them for over 40 years.

GOBB
10-15-2025, 08:48 AM
I'd much rather wear a nice colorway of Jordan 1 Lows than fugly Vans or Chuck Taylors. Chuck Taylors had their time as the iconic retro shoe but they're terrible quality, I think the Jordan 1 has replaced them as the iconic retro shoe of today.

Chuck Taylor had their time? It’s a timeless sneaker that’s still worn today. lol They are worn more than the Jordan 1’s today. And forever will be. Not sure what made you say you think Jordan 1’s replaced them as the iconic retro.

Axe
10-15-2025, 09:25 AM
https://c.tenor.com/jyi3_Ud8zwIAAAAC/tenor.gif


kind of stupid
https://i.ibb.co/XZ5qVsYf/Screenshot-20250703-235925.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/gDsySW3/IMG-20230603-203842.jpg)

Full Court
10-15-2025, 06:43 PM
^Bitch Tits shows up just to melt down. :roll:

What a stinky loser.

:lebronamazed:

Soundwave
10-15-2025, 08:02 PM
Nobody even wore Jordan 1s in the 90s and 00s & they look too similar to AF1 which came out before Jordan 1. They re-released in the mid 90's and didn't sell out, nobody really cared for them. The popularity of Jordan 1s came back in the 2010's.

Chuck Taylors came out over 100 years ago and people still wear them today, they are more iconic. In middle school around 2004/2005 me and my friends all wore chucks and were known as the "chuck crew". :lol

I would say Air Force 1 is the most iconic shoe today. People have consistently worn them for over 40 years.

Because the 80s became the new retro cool ... the 1950s like really who gives a crap at this point. A nice clean pair of Air Jordan 1 Lows is way nicer than Chuck Taylors, same with a lot of the retro low cut adidas staples. Chuck Taylors were "retro" in like the 90s/2000s ... at some point you go from "retro" to just plain old. They're a terrible shoe too, awful foot support.

But the numbers don't lie either, overall Jordan Brand sales have exploded in the last 5 years even ... from $3.6 mill-ish in revenue in 2020 up to $7.3 billion in 2025. Obviously Nike is going to see that and start producing more Jordan sneakers, that oversaturates the market so you don't see things like instant sell-outs like before and then sneaker head Youtubers think there's a problem.

There's no problem, Nike is just making more Jordan models/retros and shipping them in higher quantities because the sales have doubled for Jordan as a brand while the rest of Nike has declined in that time.

Any business is going to throw more behind any segment that has doubled in revenue in only 5 years though. That's monstrous growth overall even if one quarter or one snippet of a year is down from the previous year. Obviously at some point the growth had to slow though, the number of people that can keep dropping $200+ for retro basketball sneakers in some new weird colorway has a ceiling.

I think Nike is very, very happy with $7 billion+ in Jordan revenue though. Who really cares either if a shoe "sits" ... like being able to walk into a mall and just buy a pair of shoes you want is how it's *supposed* to work, lol. It's not supposed to work like no one buy hoarders/collectors snap up shoes for an instant sell out and then charge a 50-300% upcharge on GOAT or Stock X. That's insane.

1987_Lakers
10-15-2025, 08:11 PM
Because the 80s became the new retro cool ... the 1950s like really who gives a crap at this point. A nice clean pair of Air Jordan 1 Lows is way nicer than Chuck Taylors, same with a lot of the retro low cut adidas staples. Chuck Taylors were "retro" in like the 90s/2000s ... now they're just f*cking old lol.

But the numbers don't lie either, overall Jordan Brand sales have exploded in the last 5 years even ... from $3.6 mill-ish in revenue in 2020 up to $7.3 billion in 2025. Obviously Nike is going to see that and start producing more Jordan sneakers, that oversaturates the market so you don't see things like instant sell-outs like before.

Any business is going to throw more behind any segment that has doubled in revenue in only 5 years though. That's monstrous growth overall even if one quarter or one snippet of a year is down from the previous year.

Really depends, lots of Jordan 1 lows come with 3 different colors which kill the shoe to me. If it's just two different simple colors that go together on the low 1s, then I would agree. But Chuck Taylors have stood the test of time for 100+ years and are still worn today. Jordan 1s have only been super popular for 15 years or so.

Retro low top 1s also suck. There should be no Jumpman on a low top 1.

1987_Lakers
10-15-2025, 08:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=572oNjrRSw0

Think I might get these.

Axe
10-15-2025, 08:59 PM
The j-11s seem to be iconic and well-liked amongst gen zs.


suck
https://c.tenor.com/zYa3QDP_slcAAAAC/tenor.gif (https://i.ibb.co/gDsySW3/IMG-20230603-203842.jpg)

Full Court
10-15-2025, 10:11 PM
The j-11s seem to be iconic and well-liked amongst gen zs.




^Bitch Tits seems to be the stinkiest and least liked amongst ISH posters.


:lol

sdot_thadon
10-15-2025, 10:12 PM
Really depends, lots of Jordan 1 lows come with 3 different colors which kill the shoe to me. If it's just two different simple colors that go together on the low 1s, then I would agree. But Chuck Taylors have stood the test of time for 100+ years and are still worn today. Jordan 1s have only been super popular for 15 years or so.

Retro low top 1s also suck. There should be no Jumpman on a low top 1.

I agree. The chucks are timeless and we will always see them more than Jordans because even soccer moms wear chucks. And I love the Jordan 1s 1000x more than chucks, but not the low tops, those look just like dunks for twice the price. AJ11 is the best sneakers of all time imo. And you nailed my exact problem with modern sneaker culture. So many colors on one shoe and so many colorways yet we can't get simple color combinations that make them more compatible with casual clothes. Not to mention the designs are too futuristic and our clothing is still a decade behind lol.

1987_Lakers
10-15-2025, 10:31 PM
I agree. The chucks are timeless and we will always see them more than Jordans because even soccer moms wear chucks. And I love the Jordan 1s 1000x more than chucks, but not the low tops, those look just like dunks for twice the price. AJ11 is the best sneakers of all time imo. And you nailed my exact problem with modern sneaker culture. So many colors on one shoe and so many colorways yet we can't get simple color combinations that make them more compatible with casual clothes. Not to mention the designs are too futuristic and our clothing is still a decade behind lol.

True. Damn near all the "retro" and some of the "OG" low top 1s look like dunks.

Only the "85" version of low tops look like the actual original low top 1, like the shoe in the vid I posted.

The problem is, the 85 low top 1s are super limited compared to Retro and OG 1s. Not a lot of pairs, choices are limited. Smh.

I personally don't believe the 1s will stand the test of time because their design is too similar to other Nike shoes that came out before them, especially the AF1 which came out 3 years prior. Dunks and 1s came out in the same year.

I believe Chuck Taylor All-Star and Air Force 1 are the two most iconic shoes today, you could make a case for either.

Jordan 3 is my GOAT shoe though. They revolutionized the shoe game in ways the Jordan 1 did not and were the first Jordans to be designed by Tinker Hatfield, who is the GOAT shoe designer.

Wally450
10-16-2025, 09:21 AM
Just want to say that sneakers with a tux is a terrible look.

1987_Lakers
10-16-2025, 09:30 AM
This is why I don't buy Jordan 4s. Most overpriced shoe on the market right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG-yGKoA_o8&t

GOBB
10-16-2025, 02:20 PM
Jordan 1’s came out in 85 and it’s 2025. Still being worn today. They will always stand the test of time to sneaker heads. Air Force 1’s and Chuck Taylor are just affordable and are about as casual of a sneaker you can get. You can’t just go out on a whim and grab some Trophy 1’s.

Soundwave
10-16-2025, 03:38 PM
This is why I don't buy Jordan 4s. Most overpriced shoe on the market right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG-yGKoA_o8&t

I mean it's a shoe from 1987 or whatever, obviously it's not going to have the performance of a modern shoe, no one buys Jordan Retros for that.

But given that, in his own testing he did jump higher in the Jordan 4 than his modern sneaker (gained 3/4 of an inch on a vertical leap), which is the literal definition of increasing performance. And he also admits it's a great looking shoe, which is why people buy it.

Nike charges $200+ because the market supports that price point, people are willing to pay it. People have been paying $200+ for Jordans for ages, Nike knows by and large they can get away with that price point, if anything just paying retail for Jordan retros is not bad, the norm for higher demand colorways/models is generally very quick sell out and then you're stuck with at least a markup of $75 or more on GOAT or StockX.

1987_Lakers
10-16-2025, 04:09 PM
I mean it's a shoe from 1987 or whatever, obviously it's not going to have the performance of a modern shoe, no one buys Jordan Retros for that.

But given that, in his own testing he did jump higher in the Jordan 4 than his modern sneaker (gained 3/4 of an inch on a vertical leap), which is the literal definition of increasing performance. And he also admits it's a great looking shoe, which is why people buy it.

Nike charges $200+ because the market supports that price point, people are willing to pay it. People have been paying $200+ for Jordans for ages, Nike knows by and large they can get away with that price point, if anything just paying retail for Jordan retros is not bad, the norm for higher demand colorways/models is generally very quick sell out and then you're stuck with at least a markup of $75 or more on GOAT or StockX.

He also said it looks like it was designed by a kid with all the extra materials it has on it, like the extra eyelets and wings. :lol

I have no doubt they were in style to wear back then and many people rock them now, it looks nice, but I personally wouldn't wear them. A little too "loud" for me personally.

People also shit on the 4s for being notoriously uncomfortable. I cant spend over 200 on a shoe that make my feet hurt.

1987_Lakers
10-16-2025, 06:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH5VV7XmlgM

Higher quality than the 4s, still ugly to me though. :lol

Overdrive
10-17-2025, 06:15 AM
True. Damn near all the "retro" and some of the "OG" low top 1s look like dunks.

Only the "85" version of low tops look like the actual original low top 1, like the shoe in the vid I posted.

The problem is, the 85 low top 1s are super limited compared to Retro and OG 1s. Not a lot of pairs, choices are limited. Smh.

I personally don't believe the 1s will stand the test of time because their design is too similar to other Nike shoes that came out before them, especially the AF1 which came out 3 years prior. Dunks and 1s came out in the same year.

I believe Chuck Taylor All-Star and Air Force 1 are the two most iconic shoes today, you could make a case for either.

Jordan 3 is my GOAT shoe though. They revolutionized the shoe game in ways the Jordan 1 did not and were the first Jordans to be designed by Tinker Hatfield, who is the GOAT shoe designer.

Aren't Jordan 1s a derivate of the Dunk Hi?

Axe
10-17-2025, 07:38 AM
It must be nice to buy a fake one for daily use while the original is preserved as much as possible.


shit
https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg

Soundwave
10-17-2025, 08:47 AM
He also said it looks like it was designed by a kid with all the extra materials it has on it, like the extra eyelets and wings. :lol

I have no doubt they were in style to wear back then and many people rock them now, it looks nice, but I personally wouldn't wear them. A little too "loud" for me personally.

People also shit on the 4s for being notoriously uncomfortable. I cant spend over 200 on a shoe that make my feet hurt.

It's a shoe from 1987, they designed it for the time period it existed in, I doubt they had any idea people would still be wearing them and buying them in 2025. They could likely easily redesign it for comfort but then people would bitch and complain that it's not the original design.

Nike charges $200 a pop for them because they can and because of the fashion element of it.

Jordan Brand revenue going to $3 billion-ish range to over $7 billion in 5 years when the rest of the sneaker business has been generally on a decline tells you about everything you need to know. Nike if anything didn't properly exploit the Jordan Brand and left a lot of money on the table in the 2010s. Now they're making a lot more Jordan models/retros and releasing them in higher quantities because they've realized there was a lot of money they weren't capitalizing on there, but inevitably that means the hysteria of having to line up for shoes and bribe Footlocker employees to get on a wait list and all that nonsense is diminishing somewhat.

It's still a problem with some releases, they retroed the Jordan X Steel for the first time in a long time this year but massively undershipped it and those pairs just went straight to Stock X/GOAT for a $100+ mark up. Frustrating because that's really the Jordan retro I wanted most this year and it sold out instantly.

Also that dude's videos aren't that great. The Jordan 5 looks like a kids shoe really ... has he seen any modern shoes?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71S7HDvG9mL._AC_SX695_.jpg

https://assets.footlocker.com/is/image/FLDM/41451400_01?fmt=webp-alpha&bfc=on&wid=500&hei=500

These look like they were designed by a 10 year old and make a Jordan 5's design look understated compared to what modern basketball shoes look like.