Fat Young MAGA Leaders Get All Racist, Rapey And Pro-Hitler

[Lakers Legend#32]

Here’s the full uncensored list of the Young Republicans leaders whose racist, rapey, pro-Hitler group text messages leaked in yesterday’s horrifying bombshell.

Let’s make sure their future potential employers to avoid hiring them like the plague!

These are the deplorables who “joked” with each other in private chats over the course of seven months during the Trump administration, thinking that they were impervious to accountability. Their lives all changed radically yesterday when Politico exposed their disgusting texts for all the world to see.
Of the nine people on the list, four are part of the New York chapter of the Young Republicans, two are from the Kansas chapter, two from the Vermont organization, and one from Arizona.
The New York participants are all senior members of the state’s Young Republican organization and are closely associated with Representatives Elise Stefanik and Mike Lawler. They Include:
Peter Giunta — The chair of the New York Young Republicans, Giunta was guilty of making a “joke” about gas chambers in relation to his campaign to become the head of the Young Republican National Federation.

“Everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber. And everyone that endorsed but then votes for us is going to the gas chamber,” Giunta texted in the chat, adding that he only wanted “true believers” in his organization. He’s also someone who has proclaimed his allegiance to teenage New York Republicans who “support slavery and all that shit.” This is a man who felt comfortable joking about suicide, saying that he wanted to encourage another Young Republican member to “unalive himself on the convention floor.”
Giunta made a non-apology after his texts were discovered, claiming to accept “complete responsibility,” but going on to speculate that the messages released “may have been deceptively doctored.”

Bobby Walker — Giunta’s vice chair of the New York Young Republicans, Walker had the temerity to call rape “epic” in one of his texts. He also claimed that the texts may have been manipulated before offering a belated apology for his words.

Joe Maligno — The general counsel of the New York organization, Maligno thought that a jocular comment on gas chambers was an appropriate thing to write. "Can we fix the showers? Gas chambers don’t fit the Hitler aesthetic," he contributed to one thread.

Annie Kaykaty — Kaykaty was another New York State Young Republicans national committee member who found gas chambers were a laughing matter. "I’m ready to watch people burn now," she wrote.

The chat participants from Kansas were no less offensive:

Alex Dwyer — The chair of the Kansas Young Republicans, Dwyer thought that it was funny to reply to a question about his hotel room number with “1488,” a number beloved by White supremacists because “14” symbolizes the 14 words in a neo-Nazi slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." With “H” being the 8th letter of the alphabet, proto-fascists consider it as shorthand for “Heil Hitler.”

William Hendrix — Dwyer’s vice chair in the Kansas organization, Hendrix has no problem dropping the N-word and homophobic slurs throughout his texts. A former communications director for Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach, Hendrix also likes to engage in blatant racist stereotyping, as when he wrote: “Bro is at a chicken restaurant ordering his food. Would he like some watermelon and Kool-Aid with that?”

Samuel and Brianna Douglass — Samuel is a Vermont State Senator. His wife Brianna is a committee member for the Vermont Young Republicans. They both have no problem expressing their antisemitism freely. When Samuel informed the group that a procedural mistake over the number of delegates from Maryland allowed to attend the organization's national convention was possibly made by someone who was Jewish, his wife Brianna replied: “I was about to say that you’re giving nationals to [sic] much credit and expecting the Jew to be honest.”
Luke Mosiman — How much worse can it get than having Mosiman, the chair of the Arizona Young Republicans, call for the rape of the chair of the Young Republican National Federation, Hayden Padgett? In all caps, Mosiman texted “RAPE HAYDEN.” He also suggested trying to link white supremacist groups to an opponent before realizing that this plan could actually backfire and give more support to the other candidate.

While other Republicans have been quick to condemn these political operatives as rogue members of their party and have tried to disassociate themselves from them, the fact of the matter is that these were not just ordinary members of the public, but senior officials in the Republican Party’s youth organization. They are about as representative of the values and behavior of the modern MAGA-fied version of the Republican Party as you can get.

[Lakers Legend#32]

JD Vance said the racist, sexist statements were nothing but young people "hijinks."

[Baller234]

Nothingburger.

I'm jewish and I've probably made Hitler jokes before. Anything that is communicated in a private text among friends can't be taken at face value. You're not a real man if you don't have private text convos that would make you look bad.

Real telling that you're more upset over a bunch of kids making edgy jokes with their friends than Charlie Kirk being shot and killed.

[highwhey]

Nothingburger.

I'm jewish and I've probably made Hitler jokes before. Anything that is communicated in a private text among friends can't be taken at face value. You're not a real man if you don't have private text convos that would make you look bad.

Real telling that you're more upset over a bunch of kids making edgy jokes with their friends than Charlie Kirk being shot and killed.

are you not the one that is afraid to step foot inside an NYC subway out of fear of running into an african american?

[Lakers Legend#32]

These MAGA fatties are already being referred to as the Pillsbury Proud Boys.

[SouBeachTalents]

are you not the one that is afraid to step foot inside an NYC subway out of fear of running into an african american?
I am too tbh.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Um none of them were “kids” as JD is pushing

Samuel Douglass is 27

Annie Kaykaty is 28

Alex Dwyer is 29

Peter Giunta is 31

Joe Maligno is 35

Vance himself is 41

Sorry but this isn’t something you can use the “kids say the darndest (and most grotesquely racist) things” defense.

[Baller234]

are you not the one that is afraid to step foot inside an NYC subway out of fear of running into an african american?

Notable happenings in the NYC subway just in the last month:

Man pushed onto tracks by homeless person:
https://nypost.com/2025/09/24/us-news/off-duty-nyc-cop-pushed-onto-l-train-tracks-alleged-shover-arrested-for-attempted-murder/

Man beaten to death:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/25-year-suspect-arrested-beating-man-death-nyc/story?id=126343128

Slasher who randomly attacked a stranger outside subway station set free
https://nypost.com/2025/10/14/us-news/career-criminal-recently-cut-loose-by-judge-busted-in-unprovoked-slashing-of-stranger-outside-nyc-subway-station/


All minority offenders, all unprovoked.

You don't ever have to worry about being in this position though, because you're a virgin loser who lives with Mommy out in the suburbs.

What's for dinner tonight? What is Mommy cooking?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nothingburger.

I'm jewish and I've probably made Hitler jokes before. . True but to be fair you're a spineless chump trying desperately to fit into the neo-Nazi MAGA movement. Nick Fuentes will never love you.

[beasted]

I am too tbh.

Isn't his point to mean you're both unqualified to define the terms of what a man is?

You just proved him right

[Lakers Legend#32]

These fat MAGA Nazis are being referred to as Fatzis.

[diamenz]

Nothingburger.

I'm jewish and I've probably made Hitler jokes before. Anything that is communicated in a private text among friends can't be taken at face value. You're not a real man if you don't have private text convos that would make you look bad.

Real telling that you're more upset over a bunch of kids making edgy jokes with their friends than Charlie Kirk being shot and killed.

genuinely curious question because i don't personally know any jews. what percentage of jewish americans that you know (family, friends, synagogue goers, whathaveyou) are or aren't supportive of the current israeli government's actions in gaza over the course of the past two years? what portion of them would you say believe that israel has overreached in reaching their war objectives and in effect 'tarnished' the reputation of jewish people across the globe? do you think there are those that are afraid to speak up about it?

[Patrick Chewing]

What's the big deal? Board Liberals have been pro-Hitler since October 7th.

[Patrick Chewing]

genuinely curious question because i don't personally know any jews.

No ****ing shit :oldlol:

[diamenz]

No ****ing shit :oldlol:

humans are mostly inclined to mingle with their own kind. i don't know any muslims either, much less palestinians.

[Patrick Chewing]

humans are mostly inclined to mingle with their own kind. i don't know any muslims either, much less palestinians.

And yet you have such strong opinions on the State of Israel and Palestine. Weird.

[Lakers Legend#32]

What's the big deal? Board Liberals have been pro-Hitler since October 7th.

For someone who claims to support Jews, of course Poopsie would support pro-Hitler sentiment if it was coming from fellow fat MAGAS.

[Lakers Legend#32]

It seems the GOP needs a lesson on what is a "kid" & what is an adult. 14-year-old girls working in the spa at Mar-a-Lago are kids. The Epstein victims were kids. Kids means they are younger than 18. The racist young Republicans are ADULTS w jobs & consequences. Hope this helps.

[Baller234]

True but to be fair you're a spineless chump trying desperately to fit into the neo-Nazi MAGA movement. Nick Fuentes will never love you.

This is the dumbest fukking post from you pertaining to me that I've ever seen. Even the users who hate me the most wouldn't be retarded enough to say this.

Speaking of spineless chumps, was it you who made the call to ban my account because I hurt your fee-fees?

[Baller234]

genuinely curious question because i don't personally know any jews. what percentage of jewish americans that you know (family, friends, synagogue goers, whathaveyou) are or aren't supportive of the current israeli government's actions in gaza over the course of the past two years? what portion of them would you say believe that israel has overreached in reaching their war objectives and in effect 'tarnished' the reputation of jewish people across the globe? do you think there are those that are afraid to speak up about it?

I couldn't tell you because I don't hang out with secular atheist lefty weirdos. I imagine for the most part if you're a jew on the right you support Israel and if you're on the left you don't. Most of the people in my friend circle are on the right both jewish and non-jewish so either they are supportive of Israel or just don't give a fukk about the noise. As far as jews on the left vs right... it's probably 65/35 in favor of left. Terrible numbers unfortunately. Hey least it's not 90/10 like black people though.

What if we flip the exact same question onto you?

You're american. America for the most part has been a white christian country. Do you and your friends believe that America has ever overreacted in their war objectives and in effect 'tarnished' the reputation of white christians across the globe?

[Real Men Wear Green]

This is the dumbest fukking post from you pertaining to me that I've ever seen. Even the users who hate me the most wouldn't be retarded enough to say this.

Speaking of spineless chumps, was it you who made the call to ban my account because I hurt your fee-fees?




you are a Jew that makes Hitler jokes to fit in with your racist "friends" (they're not really your friends). It would be understandable if you or people you care about were in some kind of physical danger, or if you were just some sellout that somehow was getting paid to be whatever the jewish version of an Uncle Tom is. But no, you disrespect your own race for no better reason than to feel like you fit in and yet still find yourself crying all over the forum as you discover that those MAGA racists that don't like hispanics and blacks don't like jews either. Boohoo it up, you're 100% pure bitch.

[Baller234]

you are a Jew that makes Hitler jokes to fit in with your racist "friends" (they're not really your friends). It would be understandable if you or people you care about were in some kind of physical danger, or if you were just some sellout that somehow was getting paid to be whatever the jewish version of an Uncle Tom is. But no, you disrespect your own race for no better reason than to feel like you fit in and yet still find yourself crying all over the forum as you discover that those MAGA racists that don't like hispanics and blacks don't like jews either. Boohoo it up, you're 100% pure bitch.

Get a load of this guy. :oldlol:

I'm sorry you're a loser weirdo who's never partaken in a group chat.

I guess the jews can't win. If we refuse to laugh at our expense and punish other people for just joking around, we're the bad guys. But if we also like to joke around then apparently we're still the bad guys.

It's obvious the more you guys talk that you don't have friends, or if you do they are all liberal male feminists with toy collections. :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

And apparently you have"friends" that think it's funny that your people got roasted in ovens. You're truly spineless.

[Overdrive]

Get a load of this guy. :oldlol:

I'm sorry you're a loser weirdo who's never partaken in a group chat.

I guess the jews can't win. If we refuse to laugh at our expense and punish other people for just joking around, we're the bad guys. But if we also like to joke around then apparently we're still the bad guys.

It's obvious the more you guys talk that you don't have friends, or if you do they are all liberal male feminists with toy collections. :oldlol:

You would've been a collaborator 80 years ago. 100% sure about that.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Nothingburger.

I'm jewish and I've probably made Hitler jokes before. Anything that is communicated in a private text among friends can't be taken at face value. You're not a real man if you don't have private text convos that would make you look bad.

Real telling that you're more upset over a bunch of kids making edgy jokes with their friends than Charlie Kirk being shot and killed.

They literally worked for the Republican Party.

[Baller234]

You would've been a collaborator 80 years ago. 100% sure about that.

Lmao.

"You're a zionist jew lover..."

"You're a nazi jew hater..."


You can only pick one you inbred retard. :oldlol:

Overdrive is definitely one of the more interesting users on the forum. He is like a cross experiment between Norcal and 3tard. Capable of saying the most asinine thing at any given moment, but also incapable of communicating a coherent and logical thought.

I think his shining career moment, the one that will define his legacy, was that time he took issue with me wanting to change the bail reform laws because Iryna Zarutska had just been murdered. He argued it was in "bad taste" to use her tragedy as a catalyst for positive change.

Just a really strange and unintelligent animal. He's not the single dumbest user on the forum, nor do I think he is the most evil, but he ranks up there in terms of being unintentionally hilarious. He is the epitome of the Billy Madison "What you just said..." meme.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQltHnCsPTgiZe_p6eiZ_1KFEW1ZcX5T UB5Kg&s

[Baller234]

And apparently you have"friends" that think it's funny that your people got roasted in ovens. You're truly spineless.

No you fukking autistic spaz weirdo. Do you have like a single friend? Have you ever hung out in a single group?

Dark humor is how normal people joke and get along. It's called sarcasm. The humor comes from the shock or taboo in saying something you’re not supposed to say.

The fact that this needs to be explained to you like a child is sad and pathetic. I can only imagine what you and your "friends" joke about in private. I bet you it's far stranger than whatever was revealed in these texts.

[BurningHammer]

No you fukking autistic spaz weirdo. Do you have like a single friend? Have you ever hung out in a single group?

Dark humor is how normal people joke and get along. It's called sarcasm. The humor comes from the shock or taboo in saying something you’re not supposed to say.

The fact that this needs to be explained to you like a child is sad and pathetic. I can only imagine what you and your "friends" joke about in private. I bet you it's far stranger than whatever was revealed in these texts.

When losing argument, it's all jokes and sarcasms. And it this case, a sprinkle of gaslighting :oldlol:

[Baller234]

When losing argument, it's all jokes and sarcasms. And it this case, a sprinkle of gaslighting :oldlol:

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Holy shit, just when I thought they couldn't get more retarded.

I wasn't referring to my post being sarcastic you sped, I was referring to the nature of the thread itself. How dark and morbid humor among friends in a private setting is normal and healthy.

There's no way you imbeciles don't live with your mommy and daddy. I can't imagine the thought of you surviving on your own. It's a very dangerous world out there and I don't think you're equipped.

[Real Men Wear Green]

When losing argument, it's all jokes and sarcasms. And it this case, a sprinkle of gaslighting :oldlol:
I'm almost in awe of what a sad human being he is. In order to have a "friend" he, as a Jewish man, is indulging in Kazuo humor. I don't have any pro-,Hitler friends and I'm not even Jewish. For someone that claims to be a Jew to not just tolerate it but joke about Hitler himself? Just a screwed up individual.

[diamenz]

And yet you have such strong opinions on the State of Israel and Palestine. Weird.

it's mostly israel and america and if you haven't realized that little at this point then why should i try any more of my patience bothering engaging with you.

but what, you're saying that i have to personally know jewish and muslim americans in order to be considered well enough informed on geopolitics to have a say on the subject?

[diamenz]

I couldn't tell you because I don't hang out with secular atheist lefty weirdos. I imagine for the most part if you're a jew on the right you support Israel and if you're on the left you don't. Most of the people in my friend circle are on the right both jewish and non-jewish so either they are supportive of Israel or just don't give a fukk about the noise. As far as jews on the left vs right... it's probably 65/35 in favor of left. Terrible numbers unfortunately. Hey least it's not 90/10 like black people though.

What if we flip the exact same question onto you?

You're american. America for the most part has been a white christian country. Do you and your friends believe that America has ever overreacted in their war objectives and in effect 'tarnished' the reputation of white christians across the globe?

joke's on you i don't have friends.

not christians necessarily, no. but we are as of late unquestionably known to be considered a warmongering country. if any lesson has been learned from countries like russia, china, iran or any part of the global south from our wars of choice, forced regime changes and cia operations is that all that we seem to understand is force. diplomacy is either at the very bottom of the priority list or in some cases just an afterthought. so yeah, i do believe that we've tarnished our reputation, trust and credibility on the world stage. i'm absolutely sure that we're considered the most hawkish superpower of the big three because it's basically if you aren't a liberal democracy like we are, then you're the enemy.

i feel somewhat the same about israel. action after oct 7 was of course justified - the question is whether or not they've overstepped. at what point that actually happened or whether that ever happeed differs in opinion from individual to individual. objectively, no matter how you feel about it, world opinion as well as of course american opinion has shifted to the red. that's why i asked how your inner social circle feels about it. i was actually genuinely curious. the fact that you think that pink haired libtards are the only group that deviates from unconditional support for israel's agenda just isn't a serious argument. twitter and ISH is far from reallife and i don't have to tell you that.

[Patrick Chewing]

it's mostly israel and america and if you haven't realized that little at this point then why should i try any more of my patience bothering engaging with you.

but what, you're saying that i have to personally know jewish and muslim americans in order to be considered well enough informed on geopolitics to have a say on the subject?

The point that I'm trying to make is that first off you don't know much about Israel from a personal standpoint other than what the pundits tell you. You don't personally know any Jews who can tell you their real-world experiences living in Israel and having to deal with terrorist threats from their Islamic neighbors. Also, the United States gave millions to Iran for American hostages and have been giving millions to nations like Pakistan over the years, a country that just attacked Afghanistan and who is always on the brink of a serious scale war with India.

Even with all of this and the fact that American money has been given out to downright terrible nations, how in the hell can you find it within you to complain about Israel the way you've have these last two years?? We have literally armed the very terrorists that attack us, but your quarrell is still with Israel? Make it make sense.

[diamenz]

The point that I'm trying to make is that first off you don't know much about Israel from a personal standpoint other than what the pundits tell you. You don't personally know any Jews who can tell you their real-world experiences living in Israel and having to deal with terrorist threats from their Islamic neighbors. Also, the United States gave millions to Iran for American hostages and have been giving millions to nations like Pakistan over the years, a country that just attacked Afghanistan and who is always on the brink of a serious scale war with India.

Even with all of this and the fact that American money has been given out to downright terrible nations, how in the hell can you find it within you to complain about Israel the way you've have these last two years?? We have literally armed the very terrorists that attack us, but your quarrell is still with Israel? Make it make sense.

don't assume what i do or don't know brother. no, i'm not perfect but i do what i can in the little leisure time that i have to educate myself. what, you think i don't listen to ben shapiro and alan dershowitz monologues and debates? i stomach them regardless of how much i might disagree. so don't assume. who do you listen to on the woke right?

my arguments over the past two years speak for themselves. i've spoken here on everything from the ME to ukraine to china. the ME seems to be the topic of main contention around here so that's what i talk about most. it's not rocket science.

[Overdrive]

Lmao.

"You're a zionist jew lover..."

"You're a nazi jew hater..."


You can only pick one you inbred retard. :oldlol:

Overdrive is definitely one of the more interesting users on the forum. He is like a cross experiment between Norcal and 3tard. Capable of saying the most asinine thing at any given moment, but also incapable of communicating a coherent and logical thought.

I think his shining career moment, the one that will define his legacy, was that time he took issue with me wanting to change the bail reform laws because Iryna Zarutska had just been murdered. He argued it was in "bad taste" to use her tragedy as a catalyst for positive change.

Just a really strange and unintelligent animal. He's not the single dumbest user on the forum, nor do I think he is the most evil, but he ranks up there in terms of being unintentionally hilarious. He is the epitome of the Billy Madison "What you just said..." meme.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQltHnCsPTgiZe_p6eiZ_1KFEW1ZcX5T UB5Kg&s

I never said a single thing in your post. Making up imaginary arguments again?

[Lakers Legend#32]

I'm almost in awe of what a sad human being he is. In order to have a "friend" he, as a Jewish man, is indulging in Kazuo humor. I don't have any pro-,Hitler friends and I'm not even Jewish. For someone that claims to be a Jew to not just tolerate it but joke about Hitler himself? Just a screwed up individual.

Forget that bullshit line he is feeding you.

This is him supporting vile racists statements because it was said by MAGAS. If Obama supporters said this, he would be losing his shit.

[Lakers Legend#32]

The point that I'm trying to make is that first off you don't know much about Israel from a personal standpoint other than what the pundits tell you. You don't personally know any Jews who can tell you their real-world experiences living in Israel and having to deal with terrorist threats from their Islamic neighbors. Also, the United States gave millions to Iran for American hostages and have been giving millions to nations like Pakistan over the years, a country that just attacked Afghanistan and who is always on the brink of a serious scale war with India.

Even with all of this and the fact that American money has been given out to downright terrible nations, how in the hell can you find it within you to complain about Israel the way you've have these last two years?? We have literally armed the very terrorists that attack us, but your quarrell is still with Israel? Make it make sense.

Sorry Fatty. The US did not give a dime of American money to Iran to release the hostages in 1981. The US just unfroze Iranian assets that were imposed at the taking of the hostages. The Iranians just got their own money back.

[Baller234]

joke's on you i don't have friends.

not christians necessarily, no. but we are as of late unquestionably known to be considered a warmongering country. if any lesson has been learned from countries like russia, china, iran or any part of the global south from our wars of choice, forced regime changes and cia operations is that all that we seem to understand is force. diplomacy is either at the very bottom of the priority list or in some cases just an afterthought. so yeah, i do believe that we've tarnished our reputation, trust and credibility on the world stage. i'm absolutely sure that we're considered the most hawkish superpower of the big three because it's basically if you aren't a liberal democracy like we are, then you're the enemy.

i feel somewhat the same about israel. action after oct 7 was of course justified - the question is whether or not they've overstepped. at what point that actually happened or whether that ever happeed differs in opinion from individual to individual. objectively, no matter how you feel about it, world opinion as well as of course american opinion has shifted to the red. that's why i asked how your inner social circle feels about it. i was actually genuinely curious. the fact that you think that pink haired libtards are the only group that deviates from unconditional support for israel's agenda just isn't a serious argument. twitter and ISH is far from reallife and i don't have to tell you that.

"Did they overstep?"

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. The fact is they were at war. If you really want to play that game you can point the finger at every country and every people throughout history. Did the U.S. overstep when they nuked Japan? You aren't obligated to go easy on your opponent during wartime. Ideally you want to target just their military operations, but that becomes kind of difficult when Hamas uses civilian facilities for their military operations.

As an american living in 2025, knowing full well the history of our country, it's kind of ridiculous for any one person to be asking this question. I love my country but I also know we have a lot of blood on our hands. That is the reality. People can either accept that or don't. If it bothers them that much, they can go out and protest with the pink haired weirdos. If not then stfu and stop virtue signaling.

We are the same in many ways, both America and Israel as well as christians and jews. That's why it's so hypocritical for people to rail on just Israel over this, because they aren't rare or unique in the slightest.

[Baller234]

I'm almost in awe of what a sad human being he is. In order to have a "friend" he, as a Jewish man, is indulging in Kazuo humor. I don't have any pro-,Hitler friends and I'm not even Jewish. For someone that claims to be a Jew to not just tolerate it but joke about Hitler himself? Just a screwed up individual.

You're the picture perfect example of a soft male feminist who cries about toxic masculinity.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I point out what a spineless loser this guy is and he calls me a feminist. In top of being a coward you're also an idiot. Do you think calling me a feminist is going to hurt my feelings? Do it all you want, you will still m be a piece of garbage that sold out on his own race for nothing.

[Baller234]

I point out what a spineless loser this guy is and he calls me a feminist. In top of being a coward you're also an idiot. Do you think calling me a feminist is going to hurt my feelings? Do it all you want, you will still m be a piece of garbage that sold out on his own race for nothing.

"You sold out on your race..."

Lol, which side thinks the founding fathers were evil white supremacist slave owners again?

Aren't you white?

[Real Men Wear Green]

You make assumptions and then argue with them. The founding fathers did own slaves and FYI I'm not white. I do not view the founders of this country as pure evil as their owning slaves just made them normal for rich white men in America of that time but I certainly don't admire them the way some other people do.

[Baller234]

You make assumptions and then argue with them. The founding fathers did own slaves and FYI I'm not white. I do not view the founders of this country as pure evil as their owning slaves just made them normal for rich white men in America of that time but I certainly don't admire them the way some other people do.

You don't admire the men who fought and sacrificed everything to create the greatest and most free nation in the history of mankind?

If you're not white, what are you? You live in America don't you?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Everyone in America isn't white. I think I have had my fill of arguing with your stupid assumptions. Moving on.

[Baller234]

Everyone in America isn't white. I think I have had my fill of arguing with your stupid assumptions. Moving on.

Right but you live in America. White or not, you are still an American.

It's pretty telling that you claim to be an American but you don't even respect or admire your founding fathers. And you have the nerve to lecture others about "selling out".

[diamenz]

"Did they overstep?"

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. The fact is they were at war. If you really want to play that game you can point the finger at every country and every people throughout history. Did the U.S. overstep when they nuked Japan? You aren't obligated to go easy on your opponent during wartime. Ideally you want to target just their military operations, but that becomes kind of difficult when Hamas uses civilian facilities for their military operations.

As an american living in 2025, knowing full well the history of our country, it's kind of ridiculous for any one person to be asking this question. I love my country but I also know we have a lot of blood on our hands. That is the reality. People can either accept that or don't. If it bothers them that much, they can go out and protest with the pink haired weirdos. If not then stfu and stop virtue signaling.

We are the same in many ways, both America and Israel as well as christians and jews. That's why it's so hypocritical for people to rail on just Israel over this, because they aren't rare or unique in the slightest.

ww2 was no war of choice. i was speaking within the context of recent decades, not recent history. a few examples that stand out:

we gave russia our word after the cold war that we wouldn't encroach nato any further eastward - we did and now look where we are.

we lied to ghadaffi.

we recently bombed iran in the middle of diplomatic relations.

our ally israel bombed peace negotiators in our other ally, qatar.

we're in the middle of coercing regime change in venezuela.

it can be debated on whether or not these operations were/are justified but my point is that the lessons we're imparting to the world through our actions is that the only thing that we respect is the use of force. we aren't approachable. you cannot conduct normal diplomatic relations with the united states.

[MrFonzworth]

Pretty bizarre behaviour trying to gaslight people into thinking that these are common friend group interactions. These are the same people that fetishize their wife cheating on them and the trans. No surprise bawler immediately sprung to the defense, definitely one of the bigger weirdos on ish.

[Hey Yo]

Pretty bizarre behaviour trying to gaslight people into thinking that these are common friend group interactions. These are the same people that fetishize their wife cheating on them and the trans. No surprise bawler immediately sprung to the defense, definitely one of the bigger weirdos on ish.

LOL @ foreign Fagsworth jealous of the States.

[MrFonzworth]

LOL @ foreign Fagsworth jealous of the States.

Lol @ your morbid obesity

[highwhey]

Lol @ your morbid obesity

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