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1987_Lakers
10-16-2025, 09:19 AM
Interesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-C6QeNyHw

Baller234
10-16-2025, 11:04 AM
You still riding with Newscum in '28 now highwhey? Looks like he's on team Israel and takin that joo money. :oldlol:

Decisions decisions.

On another note it's hilarious how the sinking TYT has resurrected themselves and found a new audience with the woke right. The most fascinating part is that they were the most vocal when it came to accusing right wingers of being nazis.

But only a nazi would ever refer to a jew as a zionist.

ArbitraryWater
10-16-2025, 01:48 PM
You still riding with Newscum in '28 now highwhey? Looks like he's on team Israel and takin that joo money. :oldlol:

Decisions decisions.

On another note it's hilarious how the sinking TYT has resurrected themselves and found a new audience with the woke right. The most fascinating part is that they were the most vocal when it came to accusing right wingers of being nazis.

But only a nazi would ever refer to a jew as a zionist.

I dont get it

ArbitraryWater
10-16-2025, 01:48 PM
You still riding with Newscum in '28 now highwhey? Looks like he's on team Israel and takin that joo money. :oldlol:

Decisions decisions.

On another note it's hilarious how the sinking TYT has resurrected themselves and found a new audience with the woke right. The most fascinating part is that they were the most vocal when it came to accusing right wingers of being nazis.

But only a nazi would ever refer to a jew as a zionist.

I dont get it


And how is this right wing?

So where does the "woke right" in your mind come from? Its the same people who were right before, now they have opinions on Israel you dont like, conclusions they came to, and all of a sudden theyre woke? :D


It cant just be people you previously agreed with noticing something you have an emotional attachment to?


Hahahaha.

highwhey
10-16-2025, 02:04 PM
You still riding with Newscum in '28 now highwhey? Looks like he's on team Israel and takin that joo money. :oldlol:

Decisions decisions.

On another note it's hilarious how the sinking TYT has resurrected themselves and found a new audience with the woke right. The most fascinating part is that they were the most vocal when it came to accusing right wingers of being nazis.

But only a nazi would ever refer to a jew as a zionist.

https://i.redd.it/5crgnoc1l52f1.gif

SouBeachTalents
10-16-2025, 02:29 PM
It's surprising to see him combust like that, say what you want about him but he usually seems prepared for interviews and comes across as cool, calm and collected.

Even Ted Cruz did a better job discussing AIPAC during his infamous interview with Tucker


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASYaPgDKLU

ShawkFactory
10-16-2025, 03:01 PM
You still riding with Newscum in '28 now highwhey? Looks like he's on team Israel and takin that joo money. :oldlol:

Decisions decisions.

On another note it's hilarious how the sinking TYT has resurrected themselves and found a new audience with the woke right. The most fascinating part is that they were the most vocal when it came to accusing right wingers of being nazis.

But only a nazi would ever refer to a jew as a zionist.

What if said person IS a Zionist?

Baller234
10-16-2025, 03:58 PM
I dont get it


And how is this right wing?

So where does the "woke right" in your mind come from? Its the same people who were right before, now they have opinions on Israel you dont like, conclusions they came to, and all of a sudden theyre woke? :D


It cant just be people you previously agreed with noticing something you have an emotional attachment to?


Hahahaha.

100%.

There's no way to criticize Israel without also criticizing America. A "zionist" is just the jewish version of "colonizer".

Tell us exactly which "opinions" you hold when it comes to Israel that can't also be applied to America. Try and do so without sounding like a fukking autistic retard.

Yes I'm sorry to break the news to you but you are in fact being a woke f@ggot.

Baller234
10-16-2025, 04:03 PM
What if said person IS a Zionist?

A zionist is someone who believes Israel has the right to exist.

If Israel existing is a problem to you, you might be a jew hating nazi. There's no other explanation. What exactly is the problem?

At least the woke left is consistent. I expect them to hate Israel and not wanting it to exist because they also believe the same about America. It's woke f@ggots like Arby who are otherwise on the right but for some reason can't help but act like an autistic sperg when it comes to Israel.

Anyone who uses the word "zionist" in a negative connotation is revealing themself to be a woke f@ggot.

Baller234
10-16-2025, 04:07 PM
https://i.redd.it/5crgnoc1l52f1.gif

What's the matter?

I thought you were in love with Newscum. I thought he was your boy. There are so many examples of you slurping his c0ck. :oldlol:

What do you have to say now f@ggot?

Baller234
10-16-2025, 04:12 PM
edit:

dbl

highwhey
10-16-2025, 04:19 PM
What's the matter?

I thought you were in love with Newscum. I thought he was your boy. There are so many examples of you slurping his c0ck. :oldlol:

What do you have to say now f@ggot?

you have become a Nietzsche trope


“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”


you've been fighting imaginary antisemitic individuals so dearly that you have become one yourself.

Baller234
10-16-2025, 04:23 PM
you have become a Nietzsche trope

you've been fighting imaginary antisemitic individuals so dearly that you have become one yourself.

Aww highwhey is upset that his favorite candidate was exposed as an AIPAC puppet. :oldlol:

Don't worry highwhey there's more than enough room on the AOC train, you will just have to state your pronouns. :oldlol:

ShawkFactory
10-16-2025, 04:39 PM
A zionist is someone who believes Israel has the right to exist.

If Israel existing is a problem to you, you might be a jew hating nazi. There's no other explanation. What exactly is the problem?

At least the woke left is consistent. I expect them to hate Israel and not wanting it to exist because they also believe the same about America. It's woke f@ggots like Arby who are otherwise on the right but for some reason can't help but act like an autistic sperg when it comes to Israel.

Anyone who uses the word "zionist" in a negative connotation is revealing themself to be a woke f@ggot.

You're missing a really key part of this. It's not just someone who believes Israel has a "right to exist". It's someone who believes Israeli's have a right to their ancestral land. Which includes modern day Palestine. Which has people occupying it that aren't Jewish and don't want to give up their land.

And yes...I really do believe that your obtuseness is intentional but oh well. It only took a couple of sentences.

diamenz
10-16-2025, 09:03 PM
i was always under the impression that newsome was perpetually malfunctioning

warriorfan
10-17-2025, 02:36 AM
i was always under the impression that newsome was perpetually malfunctioning

Lmao this.

People not in the know don’t realize this is par for the course


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjm-KB_X4Lg

Newsome in a nutshell. He’s an incompetent goof.

Overdrive
10-17-2025, 03:11 AM
A zionist is someone who believes Israel has the right to exist.

If Israel existing is a problem to you, you might be a jew hating nazi. There's no other explanation. What exactly is the problem?

At least the woke left is consistent. I expect them to hate Israel and not wanting it to exist because they also believe the same about America. It's woke f@ggots like Arby who are otherwise on the right but for some reason can't help but act like an autistic sperg when it comes to Israel.

Anyone who uses the word "zionist" in a negative connotation is revealing themself to be a woke f@ggot.

Otherwise on the right? You think antisemitism is a leftwing concept? You think nazis where leftwing? Arby is an AfD fanboy. They have people in the upper ranks who more or less openly show their nazi ideology. He's not woke. It's absolutely in line with his ideology.

It's glorious seeing how your hateful rightwing attitude turns on your own kind when it comes to Israel.

Baller234
10-17-2025, 10:38 AM
You're missing a really key part of this. It's not just someone who believes Israel has a "right to exist". It's someone who believes Israeli's have a right to their ancestral land. Which includes modern day Palestine. Which has people occupying it that aren't Jewish and don't want to give up their land.

And yes...I really do believe that your obtuseness is intentional but oh well. It only took a couple of sentences.

You're american. You think the natives who were here first before the european settlers felt great about giving up their land?

It's insanely hypocritical for any american to use the word "zionist" as a derogatory term.

ShawkFactory
10-17-2025, 11:44 AM
You're american. You think the natives who were here first before the european settlers felt great about giving up their land?

It's insanely hypocritical for any american to use the word "zionist" as a derogatory term.

I think the way the natives were treated was often abominable. The early settlers and those involved in westward expansion were absolutely "colonizers" and I don't blame the natives for one second for fighting back with everything they had.

Nice gotcha attempt though :lol

Baller234
10-17-2025, 01:20 PM
I think the way the natives were treated was often abominable. The early settlers and those involved in westward expansion were absolutely "colonizers" and I don't blame the natives for one second for fighting back with everything they had.

Nice gotcha attempt though :lol

So you believe America is an evil country then and its citizens have no right to claim this land as their home?

ShawkFactory
10-17-2025, 01:34 PM
So you believe America is an evil country then and its citizens have no right to claim this land as their home?

In its past I think that this country has done some evil things and if Native Americans had the means and want to start fighting and claim land I would certainly understand. I'll just say that.

Although time tends to all heal wounds, as the saying goes.

Baller234
10-17-2025, 01:43 PM
In its past I think that this country has done some evil things and if Native Americans had the means and want to start fighting and claim land I would certainly understand. I'll just say that.

Although time tends to all heal wounds, as the saying goes.

So you're okay with America claiming "stolen land" as their own but not Israel.

ShawkFactory
10-17-2025, 11:38 PM
So you're okay with America claiming "stolen land" as their own but not Israel.

Nobody said anything was okay. Not really the point.

ArbitraryWater
10-18-2025, 03:28 PM
A zionist is someone who believes Israel has the right to exist.

If Israel existing is a problem to you, you might be a jew hating nazi. There's no other explanation. What exactly is the problem?

At least the woke left is consistent. I expect them to hate Israel and not wanting it to exist because they also believe the same about America. It's woke f@ggots like Arby who are otherwise on the right but for some reason can't help but act like an autistic sperg when it comes to Israel.

Anyone who uses the word "zionist" in a negative connotation is revealing themself to be a woke f@ggot.


what does Israel have to do with right wing?

Israel isnt based.

The Talmud had 8 genders.

All the gender/queer theory stuff stems from jews (Judith Butler).

Theyre super pro lgbtq.

Jews own a lot of the porn.

Israel is a pedophilia safe haven.

They hate Christ and Christianity.



BTW:
All evil people despise God/Jesus.

Its a recurring theme.

Norcaliblunt
10-18-2025, 05:37 PM
Op we hate you and Gavin…..

What about that.

I listen to the Jacka so Im cool.

Lmao!!!!

warriorfan
10-18-2025, 06:18 PM
Op we hate you and Gavin…..

What about that.

I listen to the Jacka so Im cool.

Lmao!!!!

I never heard that one but I could definitely see him saying that :roll:

Dude is weird and creepy as hell

1987_Lakers
10-18-2025, 09:03 PM
I never heard that one but I could definitely see him saying that :roll:

Dude is weird and creepy as hell

Says the guy who throws temper tantrums when people shit on your favorite players Curry and Bonds.

Remember when you had a meltdown and wanted to meet up and fight just because I was clowning on Curry? What a weirdo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJhwzOqqdqU

warriorfan
10-18-2025, 09:40 PM
Says the guy who throws temper tantrums when people shit on your favorite players Curry and Bonds.

Remember when you had a meltdown and wanted to meet up and fight just because I was clowning on Curry? What a weirdo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJhwzOqqdqU

Remember when you were a self admitted midget beaner who was an obese child and never played sports of any kind and now you act like some authority after watching a few shitty YouTube videos

I do

1987_Lakers
10-18-2025, 09:52 PM
Remember when you said you weren't losing any sleep over a thread that was clowning you while not realizing you were posting in that thread at 4 am?

warriorfan
10-18-2025, 10:38 PM
Remember when you said you weren't losing any sleep over a thread that was clowning you while not realizing you were posting in that thread at 4 am?

Remember being a fat midget beaner who can’t comprehend waking up at an early time :lol

Baller234
10-19-2025, 11:09 AM
what does Israel have to do with right wing?

Israel isnt based.

The Talmud had 8 genders.

All the gender/queer theory stuff stems from jews (Judith Butler).

Theyre super pro lgbtq.

Jews own a lot of the porn.

Israel is a pedophilia safe haven.

They hate Christ and Christianity.



BTW:
All evil people despise God/Jesus.

Its a recurring theme.

Proof positive that Arby has never traveled and never left his shitty backwater town. :oldlol:

You sound real educated on the topic Arby, you really nailed it. This is exactly how all jewish people think.

Baller234
10-19-2025, 11:15 AM
Nobody said anything was okay. Not really the point.

So then why is "zionist" used as a derogatory term by people who claim to love America? How are we any different?

ShawkFactory
10-19-2025, 11:49 PM
So then why is "zionist" used as a derogatory term by people who claim to love America? How are we any different?

Yes. I suppose anyone who was born and lives in this country has no room to talk.

You got me.

diamenz
10-20-2025, 01:13 AM
So you're okay with America claiming "stolen land" as their own but not Israel.

so do you support israel 'claiming' land from the mediterranean sea to the jordan river (namely gaza and judea & samaria aka the west bank) as rightfully theirs as well as all that it entails to achieve that goal, in particular the mass murder and ethnic cleansing of palestinians currently residing there?

just to be clear, i'm not making the argument that israel is currently in the process of or are intent on doing so however, it is clearly stated in the likud party's platform that:

"between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty".

in other words what i'm asking is, do you believe that land is rightfully theirs (israel's) and if the netanyahu government or other future likud party administrations do indeed take action to fulfill their ideology in completely annexing the west bank as well as ultimately driving palestinians out of gaza by force and subsequently claiming that land with or without our assistance, do you support it, along with the death and destruction that would inarguably be involved in the process?

i get the feeling that you do at least to some extent given your questioning @ ShawkFactory but what i wonder is how far you're willing to go.

or do you believe ultimately in achieving a two state solution where that land is 'shared' in some way or another?

Baller234
10-20-2025, 07:08 PM
Yes. I suppose anyone who was born and lives in this country has no room to talk.

You got me.

Correct.

It's not just this country though, it's every country.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-CRXROorw

I'm not usually one to just post a video and say "watch this", and I disagree with Maher on a lot of things, but he is 100% on the money here and it's really impossible to refute. Things change. It is the history of the world. All of us inherited something that once belonged to someone else.

I have no problem with people being critical of Israel, it's not my country, however I do take issue with hypocrisy. I expect as much from the woke left because that is who they are and they aren't shy about it. They hate Israel but they hate America for the exact same reasons. But when people on the right start to rail on Israel it really exposes their hand. You can't tell me it isn't tied to joo resentment because there's no other explanation. Everything you could say about Israel you could say about America. Israel is FUNDED by America. If one of them is guilty then both of them are.

But the woke right don't have the balls to take it there. They want to distance themselves from everything and just point the finger at Israel. Sorry it doesn't work like that. Our hands are just as dirty. They need to either accept that and STFU or dye their hair pink and start protesting with the woke lefties.

ShawkFactory
10-20-2025, 07:37 PM
Correct.

It's not just this country though, it's every country.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-CRXROorw

I'm not usually one to just post a video and say "watch this", and I disagree with Maher on a lot of things, but he is 100% on the money here and it's really impossible to refute. Things change. It is the history of the world. All of us inherited something that once belonged to someone else.

I have no problem with people being critical of Israel, it's not my country, however I do take issue with hypocrisy. I expect as much from the woke left because that is who they are and they aren't shy about it. They hate Israel but they hate America for the exact same reasons. But when people on the right start to rail on Israel it really exposes their hand. You can't tell me it isn't tied to joo resentment because there's no other explanation. Everything you could say about Israel you could say about America. Israel is FUNDED by America. If one of them is guilty then both of them are.

But the woke right don't have the balls to take it there. They want to distance themselves from everything and just point the finger at Israel. Sorry it doesn't work like that. Our hands are just as dirty. They need to either accept that and STFU or dye their hair pink and start protesting with the woke lefties.

Okay..

And what if someone IS critical of the US’s past colonizing and imperialist tactics, and IS critical of their funding of Israel? Does that mean they hate America and shouldn’t live here?

That the only way an American can be critical of Israel in your eyes? Move to a different country?

Baller234
10-20-2025, 08:43 PM
Okay..

And what if someone IS critical of the US’s past colonizing and imperialist tactics, and IS critical of their funding of Israel? Does that mean they hate America and shouldn’t live here?

That the only way an American can be critical of Israel in your eyes? Move to a different country?

Absolutely.

What is the point in being critical of your country's history if you're not willing to give back what you claim is stolen? If you claim to be living on stolen property, why would you hold onto something that doesn't belong to you? Why not sign over your home and your property to some "indigenous" person? Otherwise you're just another privileged beneficiary of evil colonialism.

Maybe it's because they're a bunch of lying phonies that don't really give a f*ck and it's nothing but empty virtue signaling.

highwhey
10-20-2025, 10:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-CRXROorw

that van https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

ArbitraryWater
10-22-2025, 10:08 AM
Proof positive that Arby has never traveled and never left his shitty backwater town. :oldlol:

You sound real educated on the topic Arby, you really nailed it. This is exactly how all jewish people think.

What exactly are you even disputing? :oldlol:


You sound like a dumb anecdotal liberal right now. "Its not everyone, I know people who are not like that!" :oldlol:

Baller234
10-22-2025, 10:55 AM
What exactly are you even disputing? :oldlol:


You sound like a dumb anecdotal liberal right now. "Its not everyone, I know people who are not like that!" :oldlol:

I'm saying it's obvious you guys don't get out much and don't travel, because it's weird for a bunch of grown adults your age living in America to have never met a jewish person in real life.

And it shows in the way you talk about them, like they're some unique and rare creature. Like they aren't just normal people like you.

Doomsday Dallas
10-22-2025, 05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-CRXROorw



That's interesting x8

but what's it got to do with AIPAC?

diamenz
10-22-2025, 05:32 PM
so do you support israel 'claiming' land from the mediterranean sea to the jordan river (namely gaza and judea & samaria aka the west bank) as rightfully theirs as well as all that it entails to achieve that goal, in particular the mass murder and ethnic cleansing of palestinians currently residing there?

just to be clear, i'm not making the argument that israel is currently in the process of or are intent on doing so however, it is clearly stated in the likud party's platform that:

"between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty".

in other words what i'm asking is, do you believe that land is rightfully theirs (israel's) and if the netanyahu government or other future likud party administrations do indeed take action to fulfill their ideology in completely annexing the west bank as well as ultimately driving palestinians out of gaza by force and subsequently claiming that land with or without our assistance, do you support it, along with the death and destruction that would inarguably be involved in the process?

i get the feeling that you do at least to some extent given your questioning @ ShawkFactory but what i wonder is how far you're willing to go.

or do you believe ultimately in achieving a two state solution where that land is 'shared' in some way or another?

@Baller234

Baller234
10-22-2025, 06:08 PM
That's interesting x8

but what's it got to do with AIPAC?

It doesn't.

I was responding to an argument about labels of zionism. Maybe if you actually read the post you wouldn't have asked this question.

Baller234
10-22-2025, 06:14 PM
@Baller234

Uh, Israel has tried to negotiate a two state solution in the past but all of their efforts were rejected. I am in favor of whichever arrangement brings peace and co-existence in the region. No I do not think Israel should be able to just bully anyone they please and claim land for their own over some thousand year old claim.

ArbitraryWater
10-23-2025, 08:00 AM
I'm saying it's obvious you guys don't get out much and don't travel, because it's weird for a bunch of grown adults your age living in America to have never met a jewish person in real life.

And it shows in the way you talk about them, like they're some unique and rare creature. Like they aren't just normal people like you.


You cant even disagree about anything.

Im just telling you what Israel is.

This is well documented.

People born with a superiority complex are not like me, no. You should watch hamzah on IG or TikTok, hes talking to Israelis over omegle and the likes and its scary how theyre raised.

Brandon Tatum was just in Israel and then had a TV interview with Netanyahu and said he only got spat on once for his Christian cross.

But I dont get out enough.

You live in delulu land.


This is how non Boomer/chewing type Fox News Conservatives view Israel.


Theres nothing based about them.



I even forgot to say theyre super pro-Migration, in Europe and America, as long as its not their own country.

Their own culture must be protected but theyre all for diluting Christianitys.

Every single Rabbi is for Immigration in the West.

Look at all these petitions signed by 1000+ rabbis :lol

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-rabbis-urge-leaders-to-welcome-refugees/ 2015
https://forward.com/fast-forward/325883/over-1-000-us-rabbis-petition-lawmakers-to-welcome-refugees/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/more-than-1-000-rabbis-call-on-united-states-to-welcome-refugees-a6759091.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/03/1000-american-rabbis-sign-letter-welcoming-syrian-refugees/
https://hias.org/statements/1500-rabbis-sign-national-letter-calling-welcoming-refugees/#:~:text=1%2C500+%20Rabbis%20Sign%20National%20Let ter%20Calling%20for%20Welcoming%20Refugees%20%7C%2 0HIAS 2017
https://forward.com/fast-forward/428309/over-1-400-rabbis-sign-letter-supporting-asylum-seekers/ 2019
2025, opposing deportations:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-50-ny-rabbis-implore-mayor-and-governor-to-oppose-mass-deportations/
https://truah.org/resources/rabbinic-letter-against-asylum-seeker-deportations/



https://truah.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Eytan_Kenter_Liz_Bolton_Asylum_Seeker_Letter_Deliv ery.jpg


thats rrr3 and the likes level lmao



Watch them announce it:
https://streamable.com/eehssl

hahaha

ShawkFactory
10-23-2025, 08:32 AM
I'm saying it's obvious you guys don't get out much and don't travel, because it's weird for a bunch of grown adults your age living in America to have never met a jewish person in real life.

And it shows in the way you talk about them, like they're some unique and rare creature. Like they aren't just normal people like you.

There's a huge amount of middle ground between not giving a fvck and uprooting one's life and family to move to another country based on an ideal.

Baller234
10-23-2025, 10:18 AM
Arby it's clear you've never been to New York, Florida, LA or anywhere on the coasts. You definitely grew up in the midwest or something where the makeup was 95% white and you've never left. You've never been to a city. Your entire worldview when it comes to joos is informed by podcasters and edgelord comedians on the right.

And once again you're attributing a characteristic to joos that can be attributed to every other group. Fukk you mean joos are the only ones with a superiority complex? You mean like "christ is king"? You mean like "kill the infidels"?

Yes it's very obvious you've never been around joos. Might even bet you've never been around black people much either.

Baller234
10-23-2025, 10:26 AM
There's a huge amount of middle ground between not giving a fvck and uprooting one's life and family to move to another country based on an ideal.

Who said you have to move out of your country?

Why don't all the people in America who believe they live on stolen land just switch places? Why not give the natives back what they claim is stolen and go live on the reservation?

They claim to feel so much guilt and so much responsibility. Have any of them donated a single dime to the cause? How many of them have ever volunteered their time or their services to make up for what our evil ancestors did to the poor natives?

Oh wait, you mean they're just talking shit online for likes? You mean they're just making signs and attending protests and performing for social media?

:oldlol:

ShawkFactory
10-23-2025, 10:31 AM
Who said you have to move out of your country?

Why don't all the people in America who believe they live on stolen land just switch places? Why not give the natives back what they claim is stolen and go live on the reservation?

They claim to feel so much guilt and so much responsibility. Have any of them donated a single dime to the cause? How many of them have ever volunteered their time or their services to make up for what our evil ancestors did to the poor natives?

Oh wait, you mean they're just talking shit online for likes? You mean they're just making signs and attending protests and performing for social media?

:oldlol:

Okay...

Take what I said and replace "move to a different country" to "move to a reservation".

Baller234
10-23-2025, 01:33 PM
Okay...

Take what I said and replace "move to a different country" to "move to a reservation".

If someone genuinely believes that they inherited stolen land, and they feel that strongly about it, what's stopping them?

What are you prepared to give back? What are you prepared to sacrifice? If the answer is nothing then congratulations you're just another selfish and privileged beneficiary of evil european colonialism. You're the bad guy you claim to take issue with.

ShawkFactory
10-23-2025, 01:55 PM
If someone genuinely believes that they inherited stolen land, and they feel that strongly about it, what's stopping them?

What are you prepared to give back? What are you prepared to sacrifice? If the answer is nothing then congratulations you're just another selfish and privileged beneficiary of evil european colonialism. You're the bad guy you claim to take issue with.

Feasibility for one. Someone who feels that way didn't ask to be born in the situation they were in, but since they were, uprooting their life and the lives of their family isn't feasible.

As for sacrifice, what if said individual gives to native american charities and advocates aggressively for their rights?

Again, huge amounts of middle ground between saying nothing and sacrificing everything. Particularly since one of the instances in question is currently happening, with tactics being broadcasted to everyone.

It's a stupid point. Somebody can feel a certain way about something, and speak on it, without having to sacrifice everything lest they be a hypocrite.

diamenz
10-23-2025, 03:24 PM
Uh, Israel has tried to negotiate a two state solution in the past but all of their efforts were rejected. I am in favor of whichever arrangement brings peace and co-existence in the region. No I do not think Israel should be able to just bully anyone they please and claim land for their own over some thousand year old claim.

i appreciate the straight answer. :cheers:

Baller234
10-23-2025, 05:02 PM
Feasibility for one. Someone who feels that way didn't ask to be born in the situation they were in, but since they were, uprooting their life and the lives of their family isn't feasible.

As for sacrifice, what if said individual gives to native american charities and advocates aggressively for their rights?

Again, huge amounts of middle ground between saying nothing and sacrificing everything. Particularly since one of the instances in question is currently happening, with tactics being broadcasted to everyone.

It's a stupid point. Somebody can feel a certain way about something, and speak on it, without having to sacrifice everything lest they be a hypocrite.

Sorry but no. You don't get to keep something that's stolen. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you. If you're directly benefiting from something you feel is immoral and wrong, you have an obligation not to partake. I promise you that most of the people "advocating" for natives have spent more at Starbucks in a year than they have in a lifetime donating to a single charity.

Awhile back Rotten Tomatoes made a push to showcase more "diversity" when it came to movie reviewers on the site. You began to see all these woke white entertainment journalists advocating for less white people so that others could be given a chance, but not a single one of them was willing to give up their own gig. They want you to make sacrifices but not them.

It costs nothing to shout "STOLEN LAND!" while you reap the benefits. Prove you're really torn up about it and give it back.

ArbitraryWater
11-02-2025, 06:33 PM
Arby it's clear you've never been to New York, Florida, LA or anywhere on the coasts. You definitely grew up in the midwest or something where the makeup was 95% white and you've never left. You've never been to a city. Your entire worldview when it comes to joos is informed by podcasters and edgelord comedians on the right.

And once again you're attributing a characteristic to joos that can be attributed to every other group. Fukk you mean joos are the only ones with a superiority complex? You mean like "christ is king"? You mean like "kill the infidels"?

Yes it's very obvious you've never been around joos. Might even bet you've never been around black people much either.

Its not the same at all.

Christians dont believe theyre the chosen people and "Christ is King" doesnt make them superior either. In fact they see themselves as sinners.

You can pull as much "I know jews and they arent like this" as you want, but the data clearly shows they have a supremacy complex and are raised on this. Most of them believe Gazans should be permanently displaced, as its their land.


Its literally within their religion. Goyim. Gentiles. This is how they refer to non-Jews. Every single rabbi can tell you that non Jews will serve Jews or already do.

And this is deeply steeped into American politics. "Israel firstest" politics.

You badly wanna attribute this thinking to me but its prevalent on the entire right wing that is sick of the Israel-orientation and doing the Jews bidding.

You cant refute a single point I made about Israel/Jews.

In fact I just saw some public jewish figure say at the 92NY jewish public culture event: "Jews built the left in this country" :D
here is the clip with commentary/research on the matter:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQaixrqDYLV/?igsh=MWUwejBhbXE0ZHZkdA==

so based.


Im from ****ing Berlin dummie. Ive been to 30+ countries and have left my continent.

Baller234
11-02-2025, 08:53 PM
Its not the same at all.

Christians dont believe theyre the chosen people and "Christ is King" doesnt make them superior either. In fact they see themselves as sinners.

You can pull as much "I know jews and they arent like this" as you want, but the data clearly shows they have a supremacy complex and are raised on this. Most of them believe Gazans should be permanently displaced, as its their land.

Oh so America isn't YOUR land? It was okay for YOUR people to displace natives and claim land for their own?

And you mean christians are sinners too? You don't say. I guess we're supposed to just ignore those sins because you guys claim to believe in the right god and are up front about being sinners? :oldlol:

Jews believe in sin too dummy. They just believe it to be more of a personal choice. You choose to sin, you aren't born with sin. Saying you're born with sin is like the biggest victim persecution complex there is.

And don't tell me that christians don't think they're superior when they think everyone else needs to be "saved".


Its literally within their religion. Goyim. Gentiles. This is how they refer to non-Jews. Every single rabbi can tell you that non Jews will serve Jews or already do.

I don't really give a fukk about what some rabbi says. There are all sorts of sects and types of rabbis. Also when it comes to rabbis you are talking about the most devout and religious of the bunch, you are always going to find the extremist nuts. Don't tell me there aren't extremists nuts on your side too. Don't get me started on Islam.


And this is deeply steeped into American politics. "Israel firstest" politics.

You badly wanna attribute this thinking to me but its prevalent on the entire right wing that is sick of the Israel-orientation and doing the Jews bidding.

You cant refute a single point I made about Israel/Jews.

In fact I just saw some public jewish figure say at the 92NY jewish public culture event: "Jews built the left in this country" :D
here is the clip with commentary/research on the matter:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQaixrqDYLV/?igsh=MWUwejBhbXE0ZHZkdA==

so based.



Here you go with the persecution complex again. I guess we can just wash America's hands clean so long as we get to blame it on Israel and the jews.

"It wasn't us guys! It was the jews all along! They've been controlling and manipulating everything!..."

Seriously just dye your hair purple already and go protest with the woke f@ggots on the left because it looks like you're about a week away from crying about "systemic jewism" and "jew priviledge". Everything the left loves to say about white christians.


Im from ****ing Berlin dummie. Ive been to 30+ countries and have left my continent.

I guess this explains everything. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

ShawkFactory
11-02-2025, 09:10 PM
Sorry but no. You don't get to keep something that's stolen. You don't get to keep something that doesn't belong to you. If you're directly benefiting from something you feel is immoral and wrong, you have an obligation not to partake. I promise you that most of the people "advocating" for natives have spent more at Starbucks in a year than they have in a lifetime donating to a single charity.

Awhile back Rotten Tomatoes made a push to showcase more "diversity" when it came to movie reviewers on the site. You began to see all these woke white entertainment journalists advocating for less white people so that others could be given a chance, but not a single one of them was willing to give up their own gig. They want you to make sacrifices but not them.

It costs nothing to shout "STOLEN LAND!" while you reap the benefits. Prove you're really torn up about it and give it back.

So to sum things up: You can't even acknowledge that something was wrong without going the distance and giving up your property and life as you know it?

I mean I'm not out in the streets with picket signs but I can admit that there was some fvcked up shit that went on during the expansion of our country.

You can be happy with your life AND acknowledge you country's wrong doings. These are not mutually exclusive things.

diamenz
11-02-2025, 10:20 PM
Oh so America isn't YOUR land? It was okay for YOUR people to displace natives and claim land for their own?



i fail to understand why you consistently use this brickwall type of argument. you stated the other day to me directly that you didn't believe israel should be allowed freew?ill to bully their neighbors and take their land yet it sounds like you're turning around and defending that behavior.

Baller234
11-02-2025, 10:27 PM
So to sum things up: You can't even acknowledge that something was wrong without going the distance and giving up your property and life as you know it?

I mean I'm not out in the streets with picket signs but I can admit that there was some fvcked up shit that went on during the expansion of our country.

You can be happy with your life AND acknowledge you country's wrong doings. These are not mutually exclusive things.

It's fair to acknowledge the injustices of history, but constantly denouncing the system without making any tangible effort to live differently can come across as performative. If you truly believes the land is stolen and the system is irredeemably unjust, yet you continue to reap the benefits and enjoy the comfort without any meaningful sacrifice, then how does that make you better than the next person?

You guys don't care about "justice" or righting the wrongs of the past. It's more about signaling moral superiority without taking responsibility or contributing to real change.

Baller234
11-02-2025, 10:30 PM
i fail to understand why you consistently use this brickwall type of argument. you stated the other day to me directly that you didn't believe israel should be allowed freew?ill to bully their neighbors and take their land yet it sounds like you're turning around and defending that behavior.

It's not about defending anything, it's simply acknowledging reality. America was built on it.

Are you saying we should all be ashamed of that fact? We shouldn't have the right to declare America as our home country because technically other people were here first?

Because that's essentially what you're saying.

Baller234
11-02-2025, 10:31 PM
dbl

ShawkFactory
11-02-2025, 11:22 PM
It's fair to acknowledge the injustices of history, but constantly denouncing the system without making any tangible effort to live differently can come across as performative. If you truly believes the land is stolen and the system is irredeemably unjust, yet you continue to reap the benefits and enjoy the comfort without any meaningful sacrifice, then how does that make you better than the next person?

You guys don't care about "justice" or righting the wrongs of the past. It's more about signaling moral superiority without taking responsibility or contributing to real change.

Who?

diamenz
11-02-2025, 11:46 PM
It's not about defending anything, it's simply acknowledging reality. America was built on it.

Are you saying we should all be ashamed of that fact? We shouldn't have the right to declare America as our home country because technically other people were here first?

Because that's essentially what you're saying.

so you stand firm with your affirmation that israel should not have the freedom to take or claim land from their neighbors as their own despite whatever ancient biblical claim they say they have to it.

so what's the problem? the argument from the people here, as i understand it, are taking issue with any apparent land expansion project beyond green line israel - not israel's right to exist within their original 1947 borders. you agree with this sentiment - correct me if i'm wrong.

...therefore i don't understand exactly what hypocrisy you're calling these people out on.


Are you saying we should all be ashamed of that fact? We shouldn't have the right to declare America as our home country because technically other people were here first?

Because that's essentially what you're saying.

i didn't say anything of the sort. i'm just trying to clarify the above.