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TheMan
10-19-2025, 02:00 AM
Trump, being the absolute idiot he's always been, is holding no cards vs China. They won't won't sell us rare earth materials essential to basically everything from iPhones, military technology and other essentials and our best response is not buying cooking oil from them, per Trump's tweet ROFL

https://youtu.be/pFaas4YKPmw?si=V9Uo212Q-6eSDuW4

Scott Bessent nervously tried explaining that it's the US and the rest of the world vs China, yeah sure, not when the US stupidly tariffed Canada and Mexico, two of their top three trading partners along with India and the rest of the world after Trump's moronic liberation day announcement, to corner China. On top of that, Trump is gifting Argentina's retarded blowhard Trump clone Javier Milei a 20 B dollar bailout, whom have replaced struggling US soybean farmers as China's main exporters now along with Brazil...America First my ass cheeks.

That pendulum swing gon' be wild AF.

Hey Yo
10-19-2025, 08:06 AM
OP voted for Kamalluh

TheMan
10-19-2025, 10:00 AM
OP voted for Kamalluh

You voted for Trump, which was the worse choice, check his poll numbers dickwad

He's been an abject failure...which isn't a shock to those who don't drink the Kool Aid

Hey Yo
10-19-2025, 11:43 AM
You voted for Trump, which was the worse choice, check his poll numbers dickwad

He's been an abject failure...which isn't a shock to those who don't drink the Kool Aid

Trump brought numerous prisoners home, including the American that was held by Russia

Trump's a failure!!!!

Biden let's 13 Americans die in the pull out of Afghanistan while leaving billions of dollars worth of weapons

Biden’s great!!!

:lol

Baller234
10-19-2025, 11:47 AM
You voted for Trump, which was the worse choice, check his poll numbers dickwad

He's been an abject failure...which isn't a shock to those who don't drink the Kool Aid

Didn't the "palestinian genocide" kick off during her administration as VP?

crosstin
10-19-2025, 11:55 AM
You voted for Trump, which was the worse choice, check his poll numbers dickwad


To be fair his poll numbers are only slightly lower than Biden's at the same time during his presidency and actually higher than Obama's at the same time during his second term. Now Trump's first term poll #s at the end of his first year were BRUTAL.

warriorfan
10-19-2025, 01:19 PM
Trump living rent free in beaner OP’s head

TheMan
10-19-2025, 06:45 PM
Trump brought numerous prisoners home, including the American that was held by Russia

Trump's a failure!!!!

Biden let's 13 Americans die in the pull out of Afghanistan while leaving billions of dollars worth of weapons

Biden’s great!!!

:lol

Biden sucked, he also funded Israel's genocide you dumbass

TheMan
10-19-2025, 06:47 PM
Trump living rent free in beaner OP’s head

I'm living rent free in your methy redneck brain though lol

TheMan
10-19-2025, 06:59 PM
Didn't the "palestinian genocide" kick off during her administration as VP?

Yes, she was ass...but Trump is really so much worse. He lets Satanyahu do anything he wants without any pushback. Fortunately Americans have woken up, Israel has lost the left, independents and young conservatives... fortunately the only hold outs are the old fat Fox News moron Christian Zionists who believe the Rapture BS whom are dying in droves.

Israel's days are numbered, the future isn't on their side with Americans rejecting their murderous warmongering ways.

AIPAC is a cancer, we have woken up.

And can you explain how China hasn't got us by the balls in this trade war? Trump is waaaay too stupid to go up against China in a trade war especially when he's pissed off the rest of the world, except for Israel and Argentina lol. They can literally wreck our economy if they wanted too.

Cope harder

Chick Stern
10-19-2025, 07:45 PM
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bladefd
10-19-2025, 10:37 PM
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Where is paksat?? He used to cry constantly about egg prices during Biden administration. Where are they??

Off the Court
10-20-2025, 09:58 AM
The beef increase has been very noticable. Cooking up some steaks is some real money now. Might as well dine out, not much price difference.

Patrick Chewing
10-20-2025, 11:22 AM
The OP lives in an alternate reality where he thinks Democrats would run this country any better than Trump. There's a reason why Democrats aren't in power. They would destroy this country in seconds.

Hey Yo
10-20-2025, 11:29 AM
The beef increase has been very noticable. Cooking up some steaks is some real money now. Might as well dine out, not much price difference.
Beef prices are at a record high in the wake of a drought that left cattle inventory at the lowest level in 70 years amid strong demand, resulting in price increases for steak and ground beef.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/beef-prices-hit-record-highs-nationwide-cattle-inventory-drops-lowest-level-70-years

Yes or No
10-20-2025, 12:59 PM
OP, I realize you just learned what the word abject means but calm down.

Off the Court
10-20-2025, 03:27 PM
Beef prices are at a record high in the wake of a drought that left cattle inventory at the lowest level in 70 years amid strong demand, resulting in price increases for steak and ground beef.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/beef-prices-hit-record-highs-nationwide-cattle-inventory-drops-lowest-level-70-years

It's on Trump, sorry. This is where we are at now.

Egg price issues were due to bird flu outbreaks but you still pointed at Biden, hell every murder in the country you blamed Biden. So current beef prices? That is Trump's doing homey.

beasted
10-20-2025, 03:57 PM
Nuh uh! Why r u liars making up stuff? Eggs and gas prices are the cheapest they've ever been! Here's a picture offa Fox News just from yesterday, chump!

https://i.postimg.cc/PfbDDsBv/the-price-of-gas-the-year-i-got-my-license-2001-v0-qy6qz6vyh1xc1-1.jpg

Hey Yo
10-20-2025, 04:13 PM
It's on Trump, sorry. This is where we are at now.

Egg price issues were due to bird flu outbreaks but you still pointed at Biden, hell every murder in the country you blamed Biden. So current beef prices? That is Trump's doing homey.

:oldlol: that's the route you're going after proven wrong? Keep reaching, chico

ShawkFactory
10-20-2025, 04:38 PM
:oldlol: that's the route you're going after proven wrong? Keep reaching, chico

I think the point is, is that context was never given to any situation by the Conservative folks on here. Anything and everything was blamed on Biden.

I think context is always important, but you can't be surprised when people give the same treatment.

Off the Court
10-20-2025, 04:53 PM
I think the point is, is that context was never given to any situation by the Conservative folks on here. Anything and everything was blamed on Biden.

I think context is always important, but you can't be surprised when people give the same treatment.
Trump changed the playing field, we've all thrown context out. You can see Gavin Newsome and everyone else has said f@#k it and just started playing Trump at his own game. The general population is too dumb for context anyway. It's a society that just looks at headlines and says "the other side did it!". Hopefully when Trump dies we can revert back to normalcy.

Real Men Wear Green
10-20-2025, 05:50 PM
The impact of the president on the economy is traditionally overrated but by taking a power of Congress and hitting our economy with tariffs in every area Trump has directly driven up prices on a way no President has before in my lifetime. We can only hope that this has some benefits down the line but so far its mainly been a booster of inflation.

Baller234
10-20-2025, 06:45 PM
Yes, she was ass...but Trump is really so much worse. He lets Satanyahu do anything he wants without any pushback. Fortunately Americans have woken up, Israel has lost the left, independents and young conservatives... fortunately the only hold outs are the old fat Fox News moron Christian Zionists who believe the Rapture BS whom are dying in droves.

Israel's days are numbered, the future isn't on their side with Americans rejecting their murderous warmongering ways.

AIPAC is a cancer, we have woken up.

And can you explain how China hasn't got us by the balls in this trade war? Trump is waaaay too stupid to go up against China in a trade war especially when he's pissed off the rest of the world, except for Israel and Argentina lol. They can literally wreck our economy if they wanted too.

Cope harder

I should cope harder? Lol, Trump takes office and within less than a year Israel is on the verge of withdrawing. You should be happy about that.

But nope, you would rather suck Kamala's toes. Even though this so called "genocide" started under her administration and she did fukk all to try and curb it or prevent it. You should know because all you did was cry and bitch.

"Trump is worse because he let's Satanyahu do whatever he wants..."... lol so what, you don't have that same smoke for Biden or Harris all of a sudden? Even though it happened under THEIR watch?

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TheNazi you are so full of shit it's sad.

Baller234
10-20-2025, 07:17 PM
The impact of the president on the economy is traditionally overrated but by taking a power of Congress and hitting our economy with tariffs in every area Trump has directly driven up prices on a way no President has before in my lifetime. We can only hope that this has some benefits down the line but so far its mainly been a booster of inflation.

Lmao.

So shutting down blue states for over a year, forcing people to close up their businesses, printing money into infinity, and paying millions of people to stay home... had nothing to do with the rise in inflation? :oldlol:

Which side was for the lockdowns again? Which side violently fought to keep them going?

You'll have to remind me.

Real Men Wear Green
10-20-2025, 08:05 PM
It's a bit strange that you complain about the Covid checks given the fact that Trump had his name on all of them. It often seems like you just don't have accurate information.

Baller234
10-20-2025, 08:36 PM
It's a bit strange that you complain about the Covid checks given the fact that Trump had his name on all of them. It often seems like you just don't have accurate information.

Trump pushed to reopen the country by Easter, which most republicans backed. We were okay staying home to "stop the spread" for a few weeks like you all asked but weeks turned to months and then years.

The democrats, the left wing cable news media, Fauci, the WHO, the CDC, and the teachers unions... all coordinated in unison against Trump and fought for the extended lockdowns. By that point Trump's hand was politically forced. I wish he would have fought harder but he was up against a vicious machine.

As it was happening in real time, it was republicans who begged and pleaded not to shut down. We told you it would destroy the economy but you refused to listen. You were hell bent on undermining Trump all costs. "We need to save as many lives as possible" you all said. "Screw the economy" all you said.

You know I'm not lying and that this is all 100% true. You know because you were there.

It's pretty evil and f*cked up for you to to cheer on the destruction of the economy and then blame republicans for the fire YOU started.

Real Men Wear Green
10-20-2025, 08:47 PM
Actually you're constantly lying. It appears to be your thing. Poor Trump all he could do was put his name on the stimulus checks. Boohoo. You're such an idiot that while you issued your distorted view of history you somehow ignored that the post of mine you replied to didn't hand Trump blame for the covid economy. I was instead blaming him for the tariff war's massive effect on the economy. If you tax something you make it more expensive. That's just a fact.

Baller234
10-20-2025, 08:54 PM
Actually you're constantly lying. It appears to be your thing. Poor Trump all he could do was put his name on the stimulus checks. Boohoo. You're such an idiot that while you issued your distorted view of history you somehow ignored that the post of mine you replied to didn't hand Trump blame for the covid economy. I was instead blaming him for the tariff war's massive effect on the economy. If you tax something you make it more expensive. That's just a fact.

But the economy was roaring prior to Covid. It was doing so well that even Trump's harshest critics couldn't dispute it.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/456942-bill-maher-roots-for-recession-so-that-trump-loses-in-2020/

^ That was the feeling among most democrats. Trumps re-election seemed like a foregone conclusion because the economy was doing so well. The democrats only hope was a hail mary, and what do you know... some random virus takes hold. Where did the virus come from? A bat you idiot. Don't ask questions.

So yea, the economy was doing stellar. It was democrats who destroyed everything. Covid no doubt was going to be a step back no matter what, but it was our response to it that tanked the economy rather than the virus itself. You could thank the democrats for that.

And what's sick is that you all cheered for it. You *wanted* the lockdowns. You *pushed* for the lockdowns. And now you have the balls to blame Trump and the republicans for the state of the economy.

Sick, twisted and evil.

Real Men Wear Green
10-20-2025, 09:11 PM
It is truly strange how you just make up some tangent and then argue with it. You should probably seek help.

Baller234
10-20-2025, 09:17 PM
It is truly strange how you just make up some tangent and then argue with it. You should probably seek help.

Point to a single thing I said that was untrue.

You don't have to lie. We all know what team you were on in 2020 when democrats forced people to close their businesses.

Off the Court
10-20-2025, 09:53 PM
It's Biden's fault that Trump gave out covid checks.

highwhey
10-20-2025, 10:05 PM
It's Biden's fault that Trump gave out covid checks.

^ this guy gets it

biden is 100% at fault for the trump tarrifs and trump trade wars. to say otherwise is antisemitic.

warriorfan
10-21-2025, 01:33 AM
^ this guy gets it

biden is 100% at fault for the trump tarrifs and trump trade wars. to say otherwise is antisemitic.

Who is at fault for you binge eating carnitas till you get 100+ pounds overweight and stretch marks all over your stomach?

:lol

You can’t even take accountability of what you put into your mouth how are you going to take accountability for anything at that point.

You are literally a fat loser.

BurningHammer
10-21-2025, 01:59 AM
Who is at fault for you binge eating carnitas till you get 100+ pounds overweight and stretch marks all over your stomach?

:lol

You can’t even take accountability of what you put into your mouth how are you going to take accountability for anything at that point.

You are literally a fat loser.

Mr. Meth Hominem was on a roll. :lol

warriorfan
10-21-2025, 09:45 AM
OP, I realize you just learned what the word abject means but calm down.

:roll: :roll:

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:07 AM
It's Biden's fault that Trump gave out covid checks.

You shouldn't talk because you don't even recall the factual timeline of events. Don't make me pull up that thread where you insisted the vaccine was already in circulation by the time Brandon took office.

So either:

- You're a liar with TDS who will say anything
- You're an autistic sped who suffers from dementia like Brandon

Which is it?

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:07 AM
^ this guy gets it

biden is 100% at fault for the trump tarrifs and trump trade wars. to say otherwise is antisemitic.

HIGHwhey still thinks Covid came from a random bat in a Wuhan wet market.

Probably wears a mask alone in his car too.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 11:13 AM
https://ge.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/97/2020/12/AP_President-Trump-1068x712-1.jpg


Operation Warp Speed

The Gov's opperation to get the vaccine out to the public as quickly as possible, was spearheaded by Donald Trump.


But this and the checks were Biden's fault :oldlol:





Is there anything in your life that isn't Joe Biden's fault?

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:28 AM
It's funny you bring up Warp Speed, because to this day it's the one subject that makes democrats like you malfunction.

In real time the democrats were against Warp Speed, and they swore that an effective vaccine could never be developed in time. Every prominent democrat and all of their media cohorts made it clear that Trump's vaccine couldn't fully be trusted.

But after the election was over and Brandon took office, the exact same vaccine that was supposedly developed under Evil Trump's administration, was now a miracle drug that was going to get us past Covid. It was so wonderful and so miraculous in fact that you weren't even allowed to make the choice for yourself. You HAD to take it.

The reason I use the word "malfunction" is because there's no way for someone like you to talk honestly about it. In real time you were against it but a few months later you were for it. And now that you've been vaccinated 6 times, you're kind of in this weird spot where you have to acknowledge that Trump was telling the truth and that the democrats were lying. You love the vaccine but at the same time you aren't allowed to give Trump credit for it.

But it's worse than that, because not only were the democrats lying about the vaccine, they lied about the origin of Covid too. They told you it came from a wet market. They didn't "theorize" that, they TOLD you that. They TOLD you to discount all the other theories.

You know they were lying I'm sure, but here you are still carrying water for them for some reason. And you aren't even being paid for it, you just have that much hatred and fury for Donald Trump and his base.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 11:31 AM
I think the vaccine saved lives and possibly the only good thing Trump did. The checks though? Not so much. I'm just trying to keep it real as to who did what. Trump pumped out the vaccine in operation warp speed, it worked IMO, but it was him. Biden took it over, and then named it something else.

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:39 AM
I think the vaccine saved lives and possibly the only good thing Trump did. The checks though? Not so much. I'm just trying to keep it real as to who did what. Trump pumped out the vaccine in operation warp speed, it worked IMO, but it was him. Biden took it over, and then named it something else.

See this is why I say "malfunction".

If you acknowledge that Warp Speed was a good thing, that means you have to acknowledge that the democrats were evil bad faith actors the entire time.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 11:41 AM
Here is AI's take on the covid vaccine:



Research and studies show that the COVID-19 vaccines have saved millions of lives globally, though precise estimates vary depending on the time frame, methods, and data sources used for analysis.

Key study estimates

2.5 million lives globally (2020–2024): A 2025 modeling study published in JAMA Health Forum found that COVID-19 vaccinations prevented an estimated 2.5 million deaths worldwide between December 2020 and October 2024. Most of the lives saved were among people aged 60 and older.

2.4 million lives globally (first 8 months of 2021): A 2023 study published by the University of Southern California and the National Bureau of Economic Research estimated that vaccines saved 2.4 million lives across 141 countries in the first eight months of the global vaccination campaign. Had the vaccines been distributed more equitably, over 3 million lives could have been saved.

14.4 to 19.8 million lives globally (first year): A highly cited 2022 study in The Lancet Infectious Diseases estimated that 14.4 million deaths were prevented by vaccines in their first year. If excess deaths were included, that number could rise to 19.8 million.

Over 3 million lives in the U.S. (up to November 2022): The Commonwealth Fund concluded that the U.S. vaccination program prevented over 3 million deaths and 18 million hospitalizations from December 2020 to November 2022.

1.4 million lives in the WHO European Region: A 2024 WHO study reported that more than 1.4 million lives were saved in the European Region through January 2024, with older individuals benefiting the most.

Factors affecting estimates

The variations in these figures depend on several factors:

Time frame: Studies that include a longer duration, such as the JAMA Health Forum study covering 2020–2024, arrive at a different estimate than those focused only on the first year or two of vaccination.

Scope: The figures can differ based on whether they cover the entire global population, a specific country, or a particular region.

Methodology: Different modeling approaches and assumptions about vaccine effectiveness, the lethality of various COVID-19 variants, and how infections and deaths were reported can impact the results. Some analyses focus on reported COVID deaths, while others account for excess deaths.

Population demographics: The benefits of vaccination were not evenly distributed. Studies consistently show that the majority of lives saved were in the highest-risk group—people aged 60 and older.


So yeah, you should want Trump to take credit on that. But you don't because your tribe is a bunch of dumb hicks who all think science is poison and the vaccine was a trick to depopulate the Earth or something :oldlol:

So you try to pin the one good thing he did on Biden.

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:50 AM
So you acknowledge that the democrats were lying and were bad faith actors then?

You acknowledge they lied about Warp Speed? You acknowledge they lied about the origin of Covid?

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:54 AM
On another note, how funny is it that I accuse a woke lib of "malfunctioning" and it his immediate default response is to run to ChatGPT like the NPC bot he is.

:oldlol:

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 11:54 AM
So you acknowledge that the democrats were lying and were bad faith actors then?

You acknowledge they lied about Warp Speed? You acknowledge they lied about the origin of Covid?
Maybe some of them, but generally speaking? no.

Covid did come from a lab, studying bat viruses in Wuhan. And overall the Dems were pro-vaccine. I'm sure you can cherry pick some instances where they weren't, but Biden took over where Trump left off on that.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 11:58 AM
On another note, how funny is it that I accuse a woke lib of "malfunctioning" and it his immediate default response is to run to ChatGPT like the NPC bot he is.

:oldlol:

ChatGPT >>>> tribal dumb shit based on nothing

I cited that because me just saying it (what you are doing) means nothing

Baller234
10-22-2025, 11:59 AM
Maybe some of them, but generally speaking? no.

Covid did come from a lab, studying bat viruses in Wuhan. And overall the Dems were pro-vaccine. I'm sure you can cherry pick some instances where they weren't, but Biden took over where Trump left off on that.

The democrats were pro-vaccine AFTER the election, not before. You refusing to acknowledge that once again means you're either a huge liar or you suffer from dementia.

https://x.com/WeGotIt2k/status/1736832349974016158
https://x.com/SteveScalise/status/1419768960745099265

^ Sorry, not going to let you rewrite history.

You're malfunctioning.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 12:08 PM
During Donald Trump's first term (January 2017 to January 2021), the Democratic party's position was consistently in favor of vaccination.

However, Democratic lawmakers expressed significant concern about the potential for political interference in the vaccine development process, especially as the COVID-19 pandemic unfolded during 2020.

Key points on the Democrats' position:

Trust in science, not the President: As COVID-19 vaccine development was accelerated under "Operation Warp Speed," Democrats publicly insisted they would trust the approval process only if it came from independent scientists at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), not from President Trump. They worried that the Trump administration was rushing the process for political reasons.

Criticism of the rollout: In early 2021, before Trump's term ended, Senate Democrats heavily criticized the administration's slow and uncoordinated COVID-19 vaccine rollout. They demanded that the federal government provide more guidance and resources to the states to speed up vaccine administration.

Opposed to Trump's rhetoric: While Democrats supported the established process and ultimate goal of vaccination, they expressed concern over President Trump's rhetoric, including his past embrace of disproven anti-vaccine theories. Before his 2017 inauguration, Trump met with prominent anti-vaccine critic Robert F. Kennedy Jr., raising concerns among public health officials.

Personal vaccination rates: During the COVID-19 pandemic, strong partisan differences emerged in vaccine behavior. Polls conducted in 2021 showed that Democrats had significantly higher vaccination rates compared to Republicans.

Democrats' support for vaccination during the Trump presidency aligned with the party's long-standing pro-vaccine stance, which is based on public health science. The controversy that developed during Trump's term centered on the politicization of the COVID-19 vaccine and the process of its development, rather than Democrats opposing the concept of vaccination itself.


ChatGPT >>>> making shit up

Baller234
10-22-2025, 12:17 PM
I just provided you two different video examples of democratic leaders publicly disavowing Warp Speed.

Here they are again in case you missed them, don't worry I have you covered.

https://x.com/WeGotIt2k/status/1736832349974016158
https://x.com/SteveScalise/status/1419768960745099265



"If and when the vaccine comes, it's not likely to go through all the tests and trials that need to be done..."
- Joe Biden

"When we finally do god willing get a vaccine, who's gonna take the shot? Who's gonna take the shot!? You gonna be the first one to say sign me up???
- Joe Biden

"I think it's going to be a very skeptical American public about taking the vaccine, and they should be...."
- Andrew Cuomo

"We can't take the president at his word and take a vaccine that might be harmful to us..."
- Ilhan Omar


Are you sure you're not malfunctioning?

Because it looks like you're malfunctioning.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 12:27 PM
That is what ChatGPT said, the Dems were pro-vaccine, but just questioned the "warp speed" part.

Baller234
10-22-2025, 12:36 PM
That is what ChatGPT said, the Dems were pro-vaccine, but just questioned the "warp speed" part.

^ NPC bot is malfunctioning.

"Must. Obey. Command"

"Must. Ignore. Evidence."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/NPC_wojak_meme.png

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 12:38 PM
Yeah, myself and ChatGPT are malfunctioning. It's definitely that and not just you.

:roll:

Baller234
10-22-2025, 12:40 PM
I posted you video of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and other prominent democrats... disavowing the vaccine and insisting it wouldn't be safe for public use.

You're malfunctioning.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 01:15 PM
They are questioning the "warp speed" part like ChatGPT says. When taken out of context it looks like they are just anti-vaccine. But really we all know that is ridiculous, and you are the only person I have ever seen trying to declare that Dems are anti-vax.

Baller234
10-22-2025, 02:25 PM
They are questioning the "warp speed" part like ChatGPT says. When taken out of context it looks like they are just anti-vaccine. But really we all know that is ridiculous, and you are the only person I have ever seen trying to declare that Dems are anti-vax.

Lol, this isn't a larger conversation about vaccines. I'm not saying the democrats have a broad and general "anti-vax" stance, but it's obvious they used Covid as a bludgeoning tool against Trump and the thought of him being able to take credit for a vaccine right before the election was something they couldn't risk. So they needed to make it look like Trump was rushing a vaccine to market in order to "bail himself out" before the election.

Would you say that's accurate?

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 03:24 PM
Lol, this isn't a larger conversation about vaccines. I'm not saying the democrats have a broad and general "anti-vax" stance, but it's obvious they used Covid as a bludgeoning tool against Trump and the thought of him being able to take credit for a vaccine right before the election was something they couldn't risk. So they needed to make it look like Trump was rushing a vaccine to market in order to "bail himself out" before the election.

Would you say that's accurate?
made it seem?

you yourself believe the vaccine was rushed :oldlol:

Baller234
10-22-2025, 03:44 PM
made it seem?

you yourself believe the vaccine was rushed :oldlol:

It was rushed, which is why I said I would never take it. I didn't just blindly follow orders because the president said I should.

It should also be worth noting that all Trump ever did was make a recommendation. He never mandated it or coerced anyone. That's what you guys did. First you said it was rushed, then you immediately tried to force it on everyone.

You can't have it both ways. Clearly you're a huge fan of the vaccine. You probably got vaccinated at least four times when you factor in booster shots. So it's obvious you thought the vaccine was this great and wonderful thing. Okay so that means Trump was right and the democrats were lying and fear mongering purely for political gain. At worst they tried to scare millions of people into not taking a shot that would have saved their life and protected them from a deadly virus.

But you don't seem bothered by this at all.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 03:58 PM
In hindsight? Not rushed obvously lol. I mean, it worked. Trump got it out asap during a time when covid was fresh and actually pretty dangerous especially to elderly who really needed that vaccine. Dems voiced concern, which was fine.

I get boosted like every other week. I pee vaccine.

Baller234
10-22-2025, 04:36 PM
In hindsight? Not rushed obvously lol. I mean, it worked. Trump got it out asap during a time when covid was fresh and actually pretty dangerous especially to elderly who really needed that vaccine. Dems voiced concern, which was fine.

I get boosted like every other week. I pee vaccine.

Pfizer announced that the vaccine was ready to go just six days after the election. The FDA approved it for Emergency Use Authorization on 12/18/20. The entire democratic party did a total 180 on the vaccine from that moment on, even though just a month prior they were telling the american people to be skeptical and that they shouldn't take it. So where did the concern go?

I know you're low IQ but I don't think you're THAT stupid. It's obvious what the gameplan was. You know it and I know it.

Are you going to argue that Covid came from a bat too? That surgical masks are effective? That natural immunity didn't exist when it came to Covid? That the vaccine prevented transmission? All provable lies brought to you by the democratic party and their deep state cohorts.

Had Trump remained president, I'm almost certain you would be unvaccinated. The democrats would've just continued their smear campaign and did whatever they could to keep Trump from scoring a political touchdown. We don't have to guess or theorize because it's what they were already doing. You would definitely be one of those people who wore being unvaccinated like a badge of honor, mocking and trolling anyone that took it and accusing them of being a Trump cult follower. Again I don't have to theorize because there are countless and endless examples from before the election still up on Twitter.

Off the Court
10-22-2025, 04:52 PM
ChatGPT just told you that the Dems were "consistently in favor of vaccination" during Trump's first term. There was no 180. You are in denial and trying to re-write history :oldlol: I would be vaccinated no matter who was POTUS, left leaning people were very pro-vaccine during Trump's first term, I remember because I was one of them.


this is where covid came from - it was in fact from a bat, in a lab.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU

Baller234
10-22-2025, 06:19 PM
Democrats up until the election:

"Trump's vaccine is rushed and it can't be trusted. You should be highly skeptical and no one should take it..."

Democrats after the election:

"The vaccine is Safe & Effective(TM) and if you don't get vaccinated it's because you're an evil monster and you should be fired from your job..."

Off His Meds:

180? What 180? What are you talking about??


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bladefd
10-22-2025, 07:22 PM
Why do you folks even respond to Baller? Just block him and don't respond to him. He is both a troll and clueless. Not worth the time or energy responding to.

Baller234
10-23-2025, 10:09 AM
Why do you folks even respond to Baller? Just block him and don't respond to him. He is both a troll and clueless. Not worth the time or energy responding to.

Because you know I'm right.

Joe Biden spent his 2020 campaign claiming you were an idiot if you thought about taking the vaccine. "Are YOU gonna get the vaccine when it comes out?? Are YOU gonna sign up?? Not me Jack..."

And none of you said a god damn thing. Because you were too busy slurping his c0ck. Because you viewed him as the savior and you wanted him to beat Trump.

Then when he became president, Biden did a total 180. Being vaccinated went from being a sign of stupidity to being a sign of purity. If you weren't vaxxed you couldn't even work or go to the movies or go to the gym. He wanted to make the unvaxxed second class citizens. He would even issue warnings during his national address. As usual you were too busy slurping his c0ck.

Seems that no matter what stance the democrats take, even when they are polar opposites and go against what they said just last week, you will slurp their c0ck no matter what.

Off the Court
10-23-2025, 10:42 AM
Because you know I'm right.

Joe Biden spent his 2020 campaign claiming you were an idiot if you thought about taking the vaccine. "Are YOU gonna get the vaccine when it comes out?? Are YOU gonna sign up?? Not me Jack..."

And none of you said a god damn thing. Because you were too busy slurping his c0ck. Because you viewed him as the savior and you wanted him to beat Trump.

Then when he became president, Biden did a total 180. Being vaccinated went from being a sign of stupidity to being a sign of purity. If you weren't vaxxed you couldn't even work or go to the movies or go to the gym. He wanted to make the unvaxxed second class citizens. He would even issue warnings during his national address. As usual you were too busy slurping his c0ck.

Seems that no matter what stance the democrats take, even when they are polar opposites and go against what they said just last week, you will slurp their c0ck no matter what.
You're literally the only person I have ever seen take this stance. Most other anti-vax conservatives state that Trump rushed the vaccine because the left forced him to and he had no other choice. Both stances are dumb but you are alone in yours. And both stances ignore the fact that covid and the vaccine were not isolated the the U.S. but were a world wide issue. China, Russia, the U.K., and U.S. all started administering doses in December of 2020.

warriorfan
10-23-2025, 11:18 AM
It was the left who tried to turn the vaccine into a part of their cancel culture. They tried to bury anyone who wanted to question the vaccine at all and ban them from the greater part of society if they refused to get it.

Off the Court
10-23-2025, 11:30 AM
It was the left who tried to turn the vaccine into a part of their cancel culture. They tried to bury anyone who wanted to question the vaccine at all and ban them from the greater part of society if they refused to get it.
Yeah baller is suggesting it was the left who was questioning the vaccine and being critical of it. You're both dumb as rocks, and I am sorry you were banned from society and buried and left for dead. But your take is the one I see most righties regurgitating and herding with.

Baller234
10-23-2025, 12:52 PM
Yeah baller is suggesting it was the left who was questioning the vaccine and being critical of it. You're both dumb as rocks, and I am sorry you were banned from society and buried and left for dead. But your take is the one I see most righties regurgitating and herding with.

He's talking about after the election you fukking idiot.

Baller234
10-23-2025, 12:53 PM
You're literally the only person I have ever seen take this stance. Most other anti-vax conservatives state that Trump rushed the vaccine because the left forced him to and he had no other choice. Both stances are dumb but you are alone in yours. And both stances ignore the fact that covid and the vaccine were not isolated the the U.S. but were a world wide issue. China, Russia, the U.K., and U.S. all started administering doses in December of 2020.

Look at this lying phony acting obtuse because his cult masters flip flopped and he has no justification.

You're malfunctioning.

Chick Stern
10-23-2025, 05:18 PM
It was the left who tried to turn the vaccine into a part of their cancel culture. They tried to bury anyone who wanted to question the vaccine at all and ban them from the greater part of society if they refused to get it.

Which vaccine are you all talking about?
Because you couldn’t mean them all, right? Because that’d be crazy.

Axe
10-23-2025, 05:29 PM
You're literally the only person I have ever seen take this stance. Most other anti-vax conservatives state that Trump rushed the vaccine because the left forced him to and he had no other choice. Both stances are dumb but you are alone in yours. And both stances ignore the fact that covid and the vaccine were not isolated the the U.S. but were a world wide issue. China, Russia, the U.K., and U.S. all started administering doses in December of 2020.
He's whining too much about what happened in 2020, the peak of the pandemic. Even though he wasn't a member in this site yet.

warriorfan
10-23-2025, 09:12 PM
Which vaccine are you all talking about?
Because you couldn’t mean them all, right? Because that’d be crazy.

I have you on ignore btw

Baller234
10-23-2025, 10:30 PM
He's whining too much about what happened in 2020, the peak of the pandemic. Even though he wasn't a member in this site yet.

Mutherf*cker your side whines over shit that happened 300 years ago.

You don't get a pass for being a brainwashed lemming because a few years passed. We're still feeling the after effects of your f*ck up. It's not like any of you have admitted you were wrong and apologized. It's the opposite actually, you double down. Off His Meds is now trying to convince us that black is white and up is down. That nobody on the left ever tried to cast doubt on the vaccine before the election. That we should ignore what we saw with our own eyes.

The country was doing great before the virus and you guys destroyed everything. Before that biggest thing you guys were complaining about was Trump's tweets. That's how good we had it. That's not something we're ever going to forget.

Axe
10-23-2025, 11:08 PM
Meh. Looks like you're much more concerned with the companies who made those vaccines, not the ones who caused the whole covid-19 mess in the first place. And don't even forget that it all happened under the first term of your orange daddy too. :sleeping

Baller234
10-23-2025, 11:18 PM
Meh. Looks like you're much more concerned with the companies who made those vaccines, not the ones who caused the whole covid-19 mess in the first place. :sleeping

I do take issue with the companies that made the vaccines. The media companies that told you to get vaccinated were all sponsored by them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2LQW1TY0lY

And what did you during this time? You rolled up your sleeve. You repeated every lie.

Axe
10-23-2025, 11:24 PM
Like i give a lot of damn about those vaccines and encouraged other people to take doses. :oldlol:

Otoh, you're here as if it's still 4-5 years ago and your life still revolving around it.

Move on, sicko.

Baller234
10-23-2025, 11:34 PM
Like i give a lot of damn about those vaccines and encouraged other people to take doses. :oldlol:

Otoh, you're here as if it's still 4-5 years ago and your life still revolving around it.

Move on, sicko.

I have friends who lost their jobs over the vaccine. I know people whose kids couldn't go back to school because of it. I had to get myself a fake vax ID just so I could enter public spaces. That's not even going into the shut downs themselves. Being stuck in the house for months and having to wear a mask everywhere you went. Putting up with all the bullshit rules and regulations, getting into fights with family and friends.

Go fukk yourself you boot licking f@ggot.

Axe
10-23-2025, 11:38 PM
And whining about all that shit in an anonymous message board that's seemingly dying is supposed to achieve what exactly? All the more when it's already been years since the inevitable happened.

Yep. Foh bozo.

Baller234
10-24-2025, 09:38 AM
And whining about all that shit in an anonymous message board that's seemingly dying is supposed to achieve what exactly? All the more when it's already been years since the inevitable happened.

Yep. Foh bozo.

You're the ones whining about the economy and trying to shift all the blame onto Trump and his voters. As long you guys bitch and moan about the state of the economy, I'll be here to remind you that it was all your fault.

If you don't want us reminding you, if you don't want us talking about the past, then STFU. Stop trying to blame everyone else and take some accountability for your actions.

Axe
10-24-2025, 10:08 AM
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I don't recall whining about the economy at all as it happened worldwide. But yes, i do blame your orange dad though for letting the pandemic happen during his term. It's a different thing though, you buffoon.

Baller234
10-24-2025, 10:17 AM
I don't recall whining about the economy at all as it happened worldwide. But yes, i do blame your orange dad though for letting the pandemic happen during his term. It's a different thing though, you buffoon.

We know. All you did the entire time was try to make it all about Trump. Even though the virus had clearly come from China and our own officials had ties to the lab it was leaked from. You didn't want to talk about that though. You weren't ALLOWED to talk about that.

But please Mr. Big Brain Genius, explain to us why it's Donald Trump's fault that Covid happened. Are you saying we should locked down sooner? Okay when should we have started locking down? Trump banned travel from China and the democrats called him racist.

Be specific, tell us how this is was all Trump's fault. What exactly should he have done differently. Give us bullet points.

Axe
10-24-2025, 10:53 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0_euQ9Kj76s

Baller234
10-24-2025, 11:03 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0_euQ9Kj76s

Holy shit this plays like a disney movie. I forgot how bad it really was. :oldlol:

"Donald Trump is a big bad monster who wanted to kill everyone!"

Just wow. None of those audio clips mean a god damn thing. He was 100% right in trying to calm the panic and hysteria. He's not trying to hide anything or deceive anyone you fukking moron. That audio clip clearly shows he's concerned.

But since you wanna accuse Trump of "downplaying" the threat of the virus:



https://i.ibb.co/C5dnw04J/IMG-4743.png

Axe
10-24-2025, 11:15 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtccxWfWcAI5No_.jpg
We know.

Baller234
10-24-2025, 11:18 AM
I'm a boot licking f@ggot

We know.

We know you're a boot licking f@ggot. The problem is you want us to forget that you're a boot licking f@ggot.

But we're never going to forget that you're a boot licking f@ggot.

Axe
10-24-2025, 11:20 AM
Why are you so triggered over something i said about you earlier? :oldlol:


He's whining too much about what happened in 2020, the peak of the pandemic. Even though he wasn't a member in this site yet.

Baller234
10-24-2025, 11:22 AM
Why are you a boot licking f@ggot?

Axe
10-24-2025, 11:24 AM
Two-minute differential. :kobe:

Baller234
10-24-2025, 11:35 AM
:oldlol:

Two minute differential or Ten minute differential.

You're still a brainwashed lemming who took the government shot.

Axe
10-24-2025, 11:52 AM
Actually you're constantly lying. It appears to be your thing. Poor Trump all he could do was put his name on the stimulus checks. Boohoo. You're such an idiot that while you issued your distorted view of history you somehow ignored that the post of mine you replied to didn't hand Trump blame for the covid economy. I was instead blaming him for the tariff war's massive effect on the economy. If you tax something you make it more expensive. That's just a fact.
:yaohappy:

highwhey
10-26-2025, 02:15 PM
his economic and international trade policies are failing

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Real Men Wear Green
10-26-2025, 03:08 PM
Ending the tracking of the unemployment rate is arguably the smartest economic move Trump has made in his second term.