First 50 point game goes to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Best player in the world

[k0kakw0rld]

The man is unbelievable. :bowdown:
Leading and willing his team to Ws.
55 points back-to-back double OT playing without his running mate J Dub.
Give the man MVP already.

[Manny98]

Flopped and foul baited the entire game

No wonder viewership is at a all time low

[bdonovan]

Casuals can't stand SGA. He did it all- step back 3's, mid-range, drives to the hoop. He can handle physicality on defense. There's a reason these guys won it all last year.

The 'casual fan' consensus is that he gets too many foul calls. The only way the opposing team can stop him is fouling him. If anything he doesn't get enough calls.

[Yes or No]

Casuals can't stand SGA. He did it all- step back 3's, mid-range, drives to the hoop. He can handle physicality on defense. There's a reason these guys won it all last year.

The 'casual fan' consensus is that he gets too many foul calls. The only way the opposing team can stop him is fouling him. If anything he doesn't get enough calls.

He took 26 free throw attempts you stupid bitch. You'd have to be as dishonest as SGA to suggest he doesn't routinely play for the foul instead of attempting to make a basket.

[Manny98]

Casuals can't stand SGA. He did it all- step back 3's, mid-range, drives to the hoop. He can handle physicality on defense. There's a reason these guys won it all last year.

The 'casual fan' consensus is that he gets too many foul calls. The only way the opposing team can stop him is fouling him. If anything he doesn't get enough calls.

He can't handle shit all he does is flop around like a fish every possession, half the time he's not even looking to score but draw a foul

I don't understand how anyone can enjoy watching him play

[tontoz]

Last season Shai's shooting percentages were:

74% at the rim
49% from 3-10 ft
55% from 10-16 ft
42% from 16-3pt
37.5% from 3

But he is just a free throw merchant.... cool story bro.

Put another way he averaged 25 ppg last year taking out the free throws, with an EFG of 57%. That is elite.

[ralph_i_el]

Last season SA had a lower free throw rate than Harden and Trae Young (making him 3rd in FTR among guards). He just takes way more 2's and gets to the rim more often than those guys. If you defend him without fouling, he's just going to shoot 10' jumpers all game that are easy money for him.

[warriorfan]

Last season SA had a lower free throw rate than Harden and Trae Young (making him 3rd in FTR among guards). He just takes way more 2's and gets to the rim more often than those guys. If you defend him without fouling, he's just going to shoot 10' jumpers all game that are easy money for him.

You are a lame cuck

[tpols]

He took 26 free throw attempts you stupid bitch. You'd have to be as dishonest as SGA to suggest he doesn't routinely play for the foul instead of attempting to make a basket.

Did he really?

26!?

:biggums:

Shit is bogus man.

[tpols]

Last season Shai's shooting percentages were:

74% at the rim
49% from 3-10 ft
55% from 10-16 ft
42% from 16-3pt
37.5% from 3

But he is just a free throw merchant.... cool story bro.

Put another way he averaged 25 ppg last year taking out the free throws, with an EFG of 57%. That is elite.


All the extra calls will improve that % signifigantly plus its putting the defenders on notice they can't breathe on him, making things even easier. I'm not saying he ain't a really good player but the style is wack. Sorry. Hes a more dependable James Harden essentially.

[tontoz]

All the extra calls will improve that % signifigantly plus its putting the defenders on notice they can't breathe on him, making things even easier. I'm not saying he ain't a really good player but the style is wack. Sorry. Hes a more dependable James Harden essentially.

Nobody in the league drives as often as he does. Foul grifting was a problem long before he came into the league. The problem is the refs. As long as they keep getting fooled guys will keep grifting.

He averaged 8.8 fts per game last year BFD.

[HylianNightmare]

AG right after

[highwhey]

He took 26 free throw attempts you stupid bitch. You'd have to be as dishonest as SGA to suggest he doesn't routinely play for the foul instead of attempting to make a basket.

:roll:

[Real Men Wear Green]

He would be great with our without the free throws but he definitely abuses the rules. You want him on your team but if he's on the opponent as a fan you may not have any appreciation for his game after he gets 10+ points off the whistle. I don't think he's as awful as Harden nut he's had some games that were hard to like.

[highwhey]

He would be great with our without the free throws but he definitely abuses the rules. You want him on your team but if he's on the opponent as a fan you may not have any appreciation for his game after he gets 10+ points off the whistle. I don't think he's as awful as Harden nut he's had some games that were hard to like.

yeah but just because he nets x amount of points from free throws, doesn't reflect the true damage that having the benefit of the whistle has on his game. i.e he would not be as inclined to drive in or make a risky offensive play if he knew the whistle would be fair and not biased towards him. in other words, the impact of the whistle is not easily determined based on his FTA/FTs made. it also gives false confidence that can translate into defensive plays. the measure of how beneficial that whistle is cannot be quantified. not to mention the momentum changing whistles at key moments during a close game.

[tontoz]

Ben mathurin had 17 foul shots in the same game and he's a nobody. He doesn't get near the touches that Shai does.

[Real Men Wear Green]

yeah but just because he nets x amount of points from free throws, doesn't reflect the true damage that having the benefit of the whistle has on his game. i.e he would not be as inclined to drive in or make a risky offensive play if he knew the whistle would be fair and not biased towards him. in other words, the impact of the whistle is not easily determined based on his FTA/FTs made. it also gives false confidence that can translate into defensive plays. the measure of how beneficial that whistle is cannot be quantified. not to mention the momentum changing whistles at key moments during a close game.

Sure but that's true of most scorers. Last season he averaged 8.8 free throw attempts per game. That's not outrageously high. By comparison Doncic averaged 7.9.

[Full Court]

It's weird how much SGA triggers people when he's not even close to the most egregious flopper or foul baiter. Not even top ten. He's just one of the craftiest players in the league as far as footwork, feinting, changes of pace, unpredictability in his movements, etc. As a result, his defenders foul him a lot.

[Yes or No]

It's weird how much SGA triggers people when he's not even close to the most egregious flopper or foul baiter. Not even top ten.

Delete your account.

[k0kakw0rld]

He took 26 free throw attempts you stupid bitch. You'd have to be as dishonest as SGA to suggest he doesn't routinely play for the foul instead of attempting to make a basket.

Watch the games, not the stat sheet, moron. The league has seen worse.

[Chick Stern]

I hate when Harden does it, and I hate when SGA does it. It’s just not entertaining.

[k0kakw0rld]

I hate when Harden does it, and I hate when SGA does it. It’s just not entertaining.
Luka also does it.

[highwhey]

Luka also does it.

the difference is SGA anchors his offense around foul bating, much like Harden did and people criticized Harden at the time because he was so egregious with it.

Luka doesn't score with the intention of going to the free throw line.

[Full Court]

Delete your account.

This is one of those morons who get triggered by SGA that I was talking about. :lol

[ImKobe]

Sure but that's true of most scorers. Last season he averaged 8.8 free throw attempts per game. That's not outrageously high. By comparison Doncic averaged 7.9.

And Doncic had a much higher Free Throw Rate on the Lakers than SGA did for last year, smaller sample size but he was also out of shape and sharing the offense with Lebron and Reaves.

Lebron in his prime years also had a similar FTr, actually higher in most of his prime/peak years than SGA did last year. Lebron's Playoff FTr career average is higher than SGA's Regular Season FTr was last year.

SGA isn't anywhere near as bad as prime/peak Embiid or Harden when it comes to foul baiting, he just does it very efficiently so people get pissed about it.

[ShawkFactory]

The SGA foul- baiting is WAY overblown. He consistently puts pressure on defenses and takes the ball to the rim.

What he does is not even in the same league as Harden, who often times completely tailored his game and skillset on drawing fouls without attempting to score. SGA is trying to score, he’s just crafty and gets people out of position. That KD foul at the end of the first game is a good example. If he doesn’t bite on that series of moves then SGA just pulls up and takes an 18 footer that he makes more often than not. Harden didn’t have that in his bag.

[ralph_i_el]

Ben mathurin had 17 foul shots in the same game and he's a nobody. He doesn't get near the touches that Shai does.

Mathurin also had a higher FTR than SGA in the playoffs last year, and all he does is run into people.

[ralph_i_el]

The SGA foul- baiting is WAY overblown. He consistently puts pressure on defenses and takes the ball to the rim.

What he does is not even in the same league as Harden, who often times completely tailored his game and skillset on drawing fouls without attempting to score. SGA is trying to score, he’s just crafty and gets people out of position. That KD foul at the end of the first game is a good example. If he doesn’t bite on that series of moves then SGA just pulls up and takes an 18 footer that he makes more often than not. Harden didn’t have that in his bag.

This this this, thank you!

FYI folks, Kobe had 5 seasons with higher free throw rates than SGA had last year.