Morant disappointed in the coaching staff's lack of belief in Ja-ball

[FultzNationRISE]

A frustrated Ja Morant told reporters to "go ask the coaching staff" about his struggles during the Memphis Grizzlies' 117-112 loss to the Los Angeles Lakers on Friday night.

Morant was held to a season-low eight points, going 3-of-14 from the field, and seven assists. Asked about what he noticed in the game, Morant was again terse.

"According to them, probably don't play me, honestly," Morant said. "That's basically what the message was. It's cool."

Morant gave similar responses to ask the coaching staff when responding to questions without explaining further. He is averaging a career-low 28.5 minutes through six games this season.


To be fair to the coaches, despite his various talents, the Grizzlies have a history of playing as well or better when he's not in the game.

He's a career 31% three point shooter, which just does not jive with the state of the game now. For context, thats 2% lower than Josh Giddey who was much maligned in OKC for not shooting well as a 20 year old. Ofc Giddey has made heaps of progress since then, probably as a result of working on it. Who knows what Ja's work habits are. You get the sense he may feel like his game is already perfect.

I dunno what the Grizzlies plan to do in terms of playing him, sitting him, trading him. But Im sure when the time comes someone will give him a nice big contract just on reputation alone. And all the five figure fans will cheer for the hundreds of millions he'll make off their support, regardless of what he contributes. Viva la fish!

Anyway I could definitely see his dad publicly threatening the head coach. We'll see.

[Yes or No]

He's not good. lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvpm92H4-w

[FultzNationRISE]

He's not good. lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvpm92H4-w


Throw another few hundred mil at him, everything will be fine.

As long as he does a 360 dunk now and then that makes him worth half the salary cap.

[Carbine]

You can't win with a guy like this as your leader and so called best player. I'd rather have Caruso on my team than this bozo.

[FultzNationRISE]

You can't win with a guy like this as your leader and so called best player. I'd rather have Caruso on my team than this bozo.

Yeah.

And he does have talent. But his lack of shooting progress... it seems like every other player in the league who starts as a poor shooter gets SOMEWHAT better over time. You have to question whether Morant works on it at all, or if he's just too busy shooting rap videos where his glock makes a cameo. It's very possible his offseason approach is "12 game good, 12 game dont need no work."

Also I dont even wanna put it all on him. Against OKC in the playoffs last year he found Edey on some nice feeds inside early when the games were still close, and Edey just couldnt stop bungling them. And those missed opportunities snowballed in a number of games. To the point the coaches too have to be questioned for the amount they played Edey when he clearly wasnt ready. So I'm not saying like "Ja's the one guy holding them back."

But it was very obvious from the beginning he was not a guy you just max right away and trust he'll be the professional he needs to be. But they did it anyway. And maybe it was they thought it was the right move, maybe they feared the fan backlash. I wish contracts required public disclosure of either "Hey, we're doing this because we're stupid" or "We're doing this because our fans are stupid."

I'm always left wondering which was the case.

[1987_Lakers]

He's not good. lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvpm92H4-w

:roll:

[tontoz]

Yeah early in his career I liked Ja but I am out now. If the Amnesty clause still existed it would probably be a good idea to use it on him

[Full Court]

Dude had almost unlimited potential, but he seems to have declined the last couple years instead of getting better.

[Carbine]

Unlimited potential?

Because he can jump really high and dunk and he's very quick?

[1987_Lakers]

Unlimited potential?

Because he can jump really high and dunk and he's very quick?

I always saw him as a Derrick Rose type player, but much more of a douche.

Top tier athleticism and exciting to watch, but with very noticeable flaws. Those types of athletic players gain lots of fans from casuals while they ignore the other flaws in their game. He was never going to be the face of the league like Full Court once thought.

[FultzNationRISE]

Hed be a good sixth man, a la Malik Monk.


But the hops were just too crazy, they had no choice but to make him the max salary centerpiece.

[Axe]

Who?


Unlimited potential?

Because he can jump really high and dunk and he's very quick?


I always saw him as a Derrick Rose type player, but much more of a douche.

Top tier athleticism and exciting to watch, but with very noticeable flaws. Those types of athletic players gain lots of fans from casuals while they ignore the other flaws in their game. He was never going to be the face of the league like Full Court once thought.
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[Full Court]

Who?




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BITCH FIT

Stinky boy gets triggered by Morant almost as much as he does by Curry. :lol What a stinky idiot.

[Full Court]

Unlimited potential?

Because he can jump really high and dunk and he's very quick?

Because he was one of the best finishers at the rim and had crazy athleticism. All he needed to do was develop a good shot. Which he hasn't done yet.

[Yes or No]

Because he was one of the best finishers at the rim and had crazy athleticism. All he needed to do was develop a good shot. Which he hasn't done yet.

He's not good. You're retarded.

[Full Court]

He's not good. You're retarded.

He was rookie of the year, MIP winner, all NBA, and 2 time all star. Yeah, he's not good.

:roll: Idiot.

[1987_Lakers]

He's not good. You're retarded.

Ouch

[Yes or No]

He was rookie of the year, MIP winner, all NBA, and 2 time all star. Yeah, he's not good.

:roll: Idiot.

Try watching the games instead of spouting off arbitrarily decided awards that don't mean anything. He's as bad of a player as you are a poster. Both dumpster fires not deserving of my time.

Summary of you, media and other ignorant fans: "OH OH OH!!! HE DID 360 LAYUP!!! OH!! HE SO GOOD!! GIB AWARD! LOL!! :roll:"

He's bad at basketball. He's always been bad at basketball. He will get even worse at basketball.

Delete your account.

[ArbitraryWater]

Interesting. Because as good as Ja was in the years when he killed it, didnt we have a lot of stats basicay not see the Grizz drop without him or even do better? Maybe even on a on/off basis?

[Xiao Yao You]

Michael Scotto: Ja Morant has been suspended one game for conduct detrimental to the team, Grizzlies say.

x.com

[1987_Lakers]

Interesting. Because as good as Ja was in the years when he killed it, didnt we have a lot of stats basicay not see the Grizz drop without him or even do better? Maybe even on a on/off basis?

I always found it fascinating how the Grizzlies went 20-5 without him that one season and even beat the eventual champs Warriors in a playoff game without him. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Try watching the games instead of spouting off arbitrarily decided awards that don't mean anything. He's as bad of a player as you are a poster. Both dumpster fires not deserving of my time.

Summary of you, media and other ignorant fans: "OH OH OH!!! HE DID 360 LAYUP!!! OH!! HE SO GOOD!! GIB AWARD! LOL!! :roll:"

He's bad at basketball. He's always been bad at basketball. He will get even worse at basketball.

Delete your account.

:roll:

MELTDOWN

Keep on showing off your abysmal bball IQ, homie.

[1987_Lakers]

I really forgot how bad it was. Grizzlies won by almost 40 points in a playoff game without him vs the Warriors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewSEY0csUE

[Full Court]

I really forgot how bad it was. Grizzlies won by almost 40 points in a playoff game without him vs the Warriors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewSEY0csUE

Just shows the simplistic lack of depth of your mind. You extrapolate lots of meaning from a sample size of one game lol.

And yet can't can't, or refuse to, see that Lebron has been a net negative for FOUR SEASONS.

:lebronamazed:

[1987_Lakers]

Just shows the simplistic lack of depth of your mind. You extrapolate lots of meaning from a sample size of one game lol.

And yet can't can't, or refuse to, see that Lebron has been a net negative for FOUR SEASONS.

:lebronamazed:

One game? Try 25 in the regular season alone. Where they went 20-5 without your "MVP".

:lol

[Full Court]

One game? Try 25 in the regular season alone. Where they went 20-5 without your "MVP".

:lol

What was the strength of schedule for those games? Were they beating good teams or garbage teams? For someone who pretends to know what advanced stats are, you should know that you have to take a more nuanced look than to make leaping assumptions solely based on one data point.

But keep on being yourself. :lol

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[1987_Lakers]

What was the strength of schedule for those games? Were they beating good teams?

I'm glad you asked.

They beat Miami, Bucks, Warriors, Nets (KD & Kyrie), Sixers, Suns & Mavs in the regular season without Morant that year. Pretty much all the championship contending teams that season minus Boston.

Damn, what a backfire.

[Full Court]

I'm glad you asked.

They beat Miami, Bucks, Warriors, Nets (KD & Kyrie), Sixers, Suns & Mavs in the regular season without Morant. Pretty much all the championship contending teams that year minus Boston.

Damn, what a backfire.

Morant in '22 averaged 30 ppg, was shooting almost 35% from 3, won the MIP award, had a PER of 24.4, and was 7th in MVP voting. MVP voting should mean a lot to you, since that was the ONLY THING you could come up with to justify your retarded take that Chris Paul was better than Stockton. :lol

So go ahead, tell us again how Morant wasn't good.

[1987_Lakers]

Morant in '22 averaged 30 ppg

He didn't average 30 PPG you dummie.

No way you are this dumb. :lol

[Yes or No]

Morant in '22 averaged 30 ppg, was shooting almost 35% from 3, won the MIP award, had a PER of 24.4, and was 7th in MVP voting. MVP voting should mean a lot to you, since that was the ONLY THING you could come up with to justify your retarded take that Chris Paul was better than Stockton. :lol

So go ahead, tell us again how Morant wasn't good.

Moran't wasn't good.

[Yes or No]

Michael Scotto: Ja Morant has been suspended one game for conduct detrimental to the team, Grizzlies say.

x.com

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46806262/grizzlies-suspend-ja-morant-1-game-conduct-detrimental

He's dog shit. lol.

[jlip]

I just saw a report stating that he's been suspended for one game for "conduct detrimental to the team."

[Full Court]

He didn't average 30 PPG you dummie.

No way you are this dumb. :lol

It was 27.4. :lol Cry about it.

[1987_Lakers]

It was 27.4. :lol Cry about it.

At least you admitted to being wrong this time instead of doubling down on your nonsense which makes you look even more dumb.

You are getting ragdolled in here. :lol

[Full Court]

At least you admitted to being wrong this time instead of doubling down on your nonsense which makes you look even more dumb.

You are getting ragdolled in here. :lol

Going off memory and I was within a couple points. And that's all you have to dispute. :lol Yep, expected you to ignore everything else. You've got nothing.

1987_Ragdolled

[1987_Lakers]

Going off memory

You have shit memory.

[Axe]

He's not good. You're retarded.
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[ArbitraryWater]

Morant in '22 averaged 30 ppg, was shooting almost 35% from 3, won the MIP award, had a PER of 24.4, and was 7th in MVP voting. MVP voting should mean a lot to you, since that was the ONLY THING you could come up with to justify your retarded take that Chris Paul was better than Stockton. :lol

So go ahead, tell us again how Morant wasn't good.

Didnt you just ask for the strength of schedule?

What happened to that point?

They went 20-5 beating good teams. Better rate than with him.

25 games is a serious sample.

[Full Court]

You have shit memory.

Here's another fun fact for you: Did you know that in '22 Morant was ahead of Curry, Lebron, and Durant in MVP voting? I bet you didn't know that, did you? :lol I mention it because according to you MVP voting is the primary metric for determining who is a better player.


1987_Ragdolled

[1987_Lakers]

Here's another fun fact for you: Did you know that in '22 Morant was ahead of Curry, Lebron, and Durant in MVP voting? I bet you didn't know that, did you? :lol I mention it because according to you MVP voting is the primary metric for determining who is a better player.


1987_Ragdolled

Not really. SGA won MVP last season, but I still believe Jokic was better overall.

I just checked and Morant finished 7th. And you had him #1.

A player whose team went 25-5 without him.

[1987_Lakers]

Didnt you just ask for the strength of schedule?

What happened to that point?

They went 20-5 beating good teams. Better rate than with him.

25 games is a serious sample.

He quickly ran away from that topic. He thought he had me cornered.:lol

[Full Court]

Not really. SGA won MVP last season, but I still believe Jokic was better overall.

I just checked and Morant finished 7th. And you had him #1.

A player whose team went 25-5 without him.

That's funny. MVP voting was the ONLY thing you could come up with for why CP was better than Stockton. But now it doesn't matter I see. :roll:

And SGA was the rightful MVP last year. You overrate Jokic. When the game's on the line, the ball goes to Murray. That's not how an MVP should work.

[1987_Lakers]

That's funny. MVP voting was the ONLY thing you could come up with for why CP was better than Stockton. But now it doesn't matter I see. :roll:

And SGA was the rightful MVP last year. You overrate Jokic. When the game's on the line, the ball goes to Murray. That's not how an MVP should work.

If you have one player consistently finishing higher in MVP voting over another player then yes. The player finishing higher year in and year out is more likely better. Like in the CP3 and Stockton case.

But to use it as a one year sample is retarded. Peja finished ahead of Shaq & Kobe in the MVP voting one year. Nobody will say he was better than both.

[Full Court]

If you have one player consistently finishing higher in MVP voting over another player then yes. The player finishing higher year in and year out is more likely better. Like in the CP3 and Stockton case.

But to use it as a one year sample is retarded. Peja finished ahead of Shaq & Kobe in the MVP voting one year. Nobody will say he was better than both.

I don't disagree with your second paragraph, but the first paragraph just shows your simplistic mind. Your complete inability to look at the totality of context. How many MVP votes do you think CP3 would have gotten if prime Karl Malone was his teammate?

[1987_Lakers]

I don't disagree with your second paragraph, but the first paragraph just shows your simplistic mind. Your complete inability to look at the totality of context. How many MVP votes do you think CP3 would have gotten if prime Karl Malone was his teammate?
More than Stockton

[Full Court]

More than Stockton

Possibly in the 2010s, but certainly not in the 90s. CP's flopping *** would get brutalized in the 90s. Stockton was one of the toughest players of all time.

[Xiao Yao You]

Stockton also showed up to play nightly

[1987_Lakers]

Stockton also showed up to play nightly

Terry Porter took a huge dump on him in '92.

Stockton had amazing longevity, but during his prime was was a tier below guys like Nash & CP3.

Hell, Kevin Johnson was better than Stockton for a few years.

[Xiao Yao You]

Terry Porter took a huge dump on him in '92.

Stockton had amazing longevity, but during his prime was was a tier below guys like Nash & CP3.

Hell, Kevin Johnson was better than Stockton for a few years.

Id say porter and johnson each had a year at his level offensively. Nash played one end of the floor. Thats where he stands out. There were guys comparable for a year as he went on for 2 decades playing every night at both ends. Paul was the most comparable but hurt too much.

[Xiao Yao You]

Shams Charania: Joining @SportsCenter AM to discuss details on Ja Morant's one-game suspension with the Memphis Grizzlies and what's next: There's been tension in the last several days around Ja Moran and his feelings toward first year head coach Tuomas Iisalo’s rotation patterns, his plays, but it really culminated after and during the loss to Lakers on Friday night in the post-game locker room. Morant and Iisalo had an exchange where Iisalo called out Morant’s leadership and effort in front of the whole team, and as teammates and staffers all looked on, Morant responded in what the team deemed an inappropriate and dismissive way, according to sources, and that's when the Grizzlies, the team officials, huddled up. They levied a one-game suspension on Ja Morant that he will serve on Sunday in Toronto.

Twitter

[Yes or No]

Shams Charania: Joining @SportsCenter AM to discuss details on Ja Morant's one-game suspension with the Memphis Grizzlies and what's next: There's been tension in the last several days around Ja Moran and his feelings toward first year head coach Tuomas Iisalo’s rotation patterns, his plays, but it really culminated after and during the loss to Lakers on Friday night in the post-game locker room. Morant and Iisalo had an exchange where Iisalo called out Morant’s leadership and effort in front of the whole team, and as teammates and staffers all looked on, Morant responded in what the team deemed an inappropriate and dismissive way, according to sources, and that's when the Grizzlies, the team officials, huddled up. They levied a one-game suspension on Ja Morant that he will serve on Sunday in Toronto.

Twitter

So not only is he bad at basketball and stupid away from the game but now you can add locker room cancer to the list. lol. There are few less desirable contracts in the NBA.

[Full Court]

Stockton also showed up to play nightly

Boom.

[ArbitraryWater]

He quickly ran away from that topic. He thought he had me cornered.:lol

Is he conceeding that point?!?! He seems to have no shame

[1987_Lakers]

Id say porter and johnson each had a year at his level offensively.

On his level for a year? Kevin Johnson was probably better than Stockton on offense for a few years. You can argue Mark Price one year as well, in particular '93. The difference is Johnson & Price didn't have anywhere close to the longevity Stockton had.

The only argument Stockton has over CP3 is longevity, even though CP3's longevity is kind of underrated, he finished 5th in MVP voting as a 35 year old while helping the Suns make the Finals.

Comparing their prime years, CP3 kills Stockton.

[Xiao Yao You]

A year? Kevin Johnson was for sure on his level on offense for a few years, was probably better overall on that end. You can argue Mark Price one year as well, in particular '93. The difference is Johnson & Price didn't have anywhere close to the longevity Stockton had.

I thought a year at the time. The difference is longevity, durability, consistency, efficiency, playmaking and defense. Not being a scorer at the 1 wasnt considered a negative at the time. If you want to look at it through a modern eye i guess you can talk yourself in to thinking those guys were better. More willing scorers. Price was a better shooter. Payton was a better defender

[Full Court]

Is he conceeding that point?!?! He seems to have no shame

Why would I concede anything when I'm clearly right? Nobody with an IQ even in the low end of the normal range would say Morant wasn't good in '22. Averaging almost 30 ppg (27.4 to be exact), all star, 7th in MVP voting, all NBA, MIP award. There's not even a case to be made that he wasn't good."Bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but record without him!!!" Yep, cool story.

Interesting, although hardly surprising, that the only people try to say that Morant was never any good are Bronie fluffers. So predictable. :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

Why would I concede anything when I'm clearly right? Nobody with an IQ even in the low end of the normal range would say Morant wasn't good in '22. Averaging almost 30 ppg (27.4 to be exact), all star, 7th in MVP voting, all NBA, MIP award. There's not even a case to be made that he wasn't good."Bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but record without him!!!" Yep, cool story.

Interesting, although hardly surprising, that the only people try to say that Morant was never any good are Bronie fluffers. So predictable. :roll:

That's cute.

Grizzlies were still 20-5 without him that year while beating championship contending teams in the process.

And you had him as your MVP winner. :lol

[tpols]

Id say porter and johnson each had a year at his level offensively. Nash played one end of the floor. Thats where he stands out. There were guys comparable for a year as he went on for 2 decades playing every night at both ends. Paul was the most comparable but hurt too much.


Nash was a better playoff performer than Stockton.

The crazy thing to me is how people think guys like John or Manu were awesome defenders. They were mid at best. Utah had poor defensive ranks for a contending team and Manu is known for making more crucial bad defensive plays than good ones.

Alll three of these guys? Manu, Stockton, and Nash? 90+% of their HOF impact came from offense. But Nash did that the best by far. He was a BS suspension away from being an MVP champion.

[Xiao Yao You]

Imagine stockton on a loaded team instead of the jazz. Where was nash on dallas? Good not great. We saw what lin could do in that offense

[1987_Lakers]

Imagine stockton on a loaded team instead of the jazz. Where was nash on dallas? Good not great. We saw what lin could do in that offense

Nash won an MVP without Amare one year.

[tpols]

Imagine stockton on a loaded team instead of the jazz. Where was nash on dallas? Good not great. We saw what lin could do in that offense

Are you ****ing kidding me bro? He played with Karl Malone who was an MVP.

Stockton wasnt even the best player on his own team meanwhile Nash easily was and won MVP multiple times.

[1987_Lakers]

Are you ****ing kidding me bro? He played with Karl Malone who was an MVP.

Stockton wasnt even the best player on his own team meanwhile Nash easily was and won MVP multiple times.

For real.

You think Stockton is winning MVP one year without his best scorer like Nash did in 2006? :oldlol:

[tpols]

For real.

You think Stockton is winning MVP one year without his best scorer like Nash did in 2006? :oldlol:


I doubt Xaio is high on Amare because he played as little defense as anybody ever and did it from a position where its more necessary. Just a lot of incongruency from him everywhere.

[Xiao Yao You]

Are you ****ing kidding me bro? He played with Karl Malone who was an MVP.

Stockton wasnt even the best player on his own team meanwhile Nash easily was and won MVP multiple times.

You need more than 2 players. Too bad their best teams were after stockton had microfracture surgery. Its tough winning while playing 4 on 5 at the offensive end. I have stockton over malone

[Full Court]

Nash won an MVP without Amare one year.

Nash >>>Chris Paul

[Xiao Yao You]

Pauls problem was being on the sidelines when his team needed him most

[1987_Lakers]

Nash >>>Chris Paul

Chris Paul had more top tier seasons. Nash didn't make an All-star until he was 27, late bloomer. At their peaks, Nash was better on offense.

[Full Court]

Chris Paul had more top tier seasons. Nash didn't make an All-star until he was 27, late bloomer. At their peaks, Nash was better on offense.

Nash is ahead in all-time rankings.

[Xiao Yao You]

Ja for zion who says no? Injury prone or headcase?

Tim MacMahon: I don't think there's much… like you guys talk to people. I talked to people. Do you find a lot of people that believe there's going to be some robust market if they do shop Ja Morant? Tim Bontemps: No. No, I don't think I don't think there is one. I mean, I think for a couple reasons. One is all the things we just talked about. The second is he's just not that much of a difference-maker at the position and it's a loaded position.

YouTube

[FultzNationRISE]

Ja for zion who says no? Injury prone or headcase?

Tim MacMahon: I don't think there's much… like you guys talk to people. I talked to people. Do you find a lot of people that believe there's going to be some robust market if they do shop Ja Morant? Tim Bontemps: No. No, I don't think I don't think there is one. I mean, I think for a couple reasons. One is all the things we just talked about. The second is he's just not that much of a difference-maker at the position and it's a loaded position.

YouTube

Wouldnt wanna take on either's salary due to their baggage, but Zion's ceiling on the court is much higher IMO.