Can someone provide me an actual example of America putting Israel first?

[Baller234]

America invests in more than 175 countries across the globe.

We do so for a variety of strategic reasons. Security, influence, economic stability, etc.

I know the woke right's new favorite phrase is "America Only", and yea that sounds great in theory, but it's fukking retarded in practice. We can never be truly "isolationist" because our economy, security, and global influence are deeply dependent on rest of the world in ways that can't be separated.

So this is a question aimed squarely at the posters who are obsessed with Israel. The ones who are so fixated on Israel that they would rather toss Trump and MAGA aside so they can hold hands with the radical islamists and extreme woke left.

WHEN has America done something that was great for Israel but was awful for America?

WHEN has America ever put Israel first?

Please respond like an adult and provide actual examples.

Thanks.

[highwhey]

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[1987_Lakers]

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[Doomsday Dallas]

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[ArbitraryWater]

They have wars on behalf of Israel and apocalyptic prophecy.

American free speech ends where Jews discomfort begins. Just saw a video of a guy getting harrassed by cops at his home for a tweet about Israel.

Every single policy is catered to Jews, not Americans. All politicians work together closely with Aipac and all presidents are surrounded by jewish staff.

Aipac of course does not have to register as foreign agent either.

[Baller234]

They have wars on behalf of Israel and apocalyptic prophecy.

American free speech ends where Jews discomfort begins. Just saw a video of a guy getting harrassed by cops at his home for a tweet about Israel.

Every single policy is catered to Jews, not Americans. All politicians work together closely with Aipac and all presidents are surrounded by jewish staff.

Aipac of course does not have to register as foreign agent either.

Give me five.

[ArbitraryWater]

America is a mere tool for elite jews.

America/West is Edom to them.


Netanyahu is reading Jews vs Rome right now, saying he "wants to win this time".

[Baller234]

Arby: "Every policy that America enacts puts jews first!.."

Me: "Name them..."

Arby: "Uhh...uh....uh....uhh....."

:oldlol:

Great job retard.

[Baller234]

Essentially the argument I'm seeing from the woke is right is...

"How dare you call (insert far right influencer) a nazi for praising Hitler!..."

Or if it's not that its's...

How dare you call (insert far right influencer) a nazi for cozying up to this person that praises Hitler!


I remember when being pro-Hitler was edgy and funny for gayloard f@gs, but now these woke rejects are unironically and retroactively getting on the pro-Hitler train. He's their Hugo Chavez. He will be on tee shirts soon.

I'm sure Arby would wear one in his size.

[ShawkFactory]

Essentially the argument I'm seeing from the woke is right is...

"How dare you call (insert far right influencer) a nazi for praising Hitler!..."

Or if it's not that its's...

How dare you call (insert far right influencer) a nazi for cozying up to this person that praises Hitler!


I remember when being pro-Hitler was edgy and funny for gayloard f@gs, but now these woke rejects are unironically and retroactively getting on the pro-Hitler train. He's their Hugo Chavez. He will be on tee shirts soon.

I'm sure Arby would wear one in his size.

Are you thinking of Che Guevara? Haven't seen much Chavez love.

Not saying it doesn't exist but that would be news to me.

[Baller234]

Are you thinking of Che Guevara? Haven't seen much Chavez love.

Not saying it doesn't exist but that would be news to me.

My bad, yes that's who I meant.

I got my latin american marxists confused.

[ShawkFactory]

My bad, yes that's who I meant.

I got my latin american marxists confused.

Very different stories behind Che Guevara and Hitler.

[Baller234]

Very different stories behind Che Guevara and Hitler.

Way to miss the point guy.

[ShawkFactory]

Way to miss the point guy.

I wasn't discussing the differences in their political ideologies, but rather the extremeness of their respective causes. One is nowhere near the other.

I think you're missing the point by even making this thread. You now seem to be conflating anyone who has anything critical to say about Israel with now heading towards pro-Hitler status. I know that you know there is a clear difference between these two things, but it appears that clear delineation is being blurred for you as we progress on this issue.

[Baller234]

I wasn't discussing the differences in their political ideologies, but rather the extremeness of their respective causes. One is nowhere near the other.

I think you're missing the point by even making this thread. You now seem to be conflating anyone who has anything critical to say about Israel with now heading towards pro-Hitler status. I know that you know there is a clear difference between these two things, but it appears that clear delineation is being blurred for you as we progress on this issue.

No you fukking retard, I'm talking about people who actually praise Hitler.

You're doing the exact same thing as everybody else and playing dumb.

[ShawkFactory]

No you fukking retard, I'm talking about people who actually praise Hitler.

You're doing the exact same thing as everybody else and playing dumb.

How many are actually doing that?

[highwhey]

No you fukking retard, I'm talking about people who actually praise Hitler.

You're doing the exact same thing as everybody else and playing dumb.

his point is valid. anyone that is verbal about legitimate criticism of israel, is met with an antisemitic tag - much similar to what the libs did with anyone not bending the knee to the woke movement. it's frustrating especially bc your side wants us to ignore war crimes and genocide at the hands of israel.

[HoopsNY]

If you have to ask this question, then you're pretty blind to the reality.

[Yes or No]

How about the fact that the US regularly vetoes @ the UN any resolutions that are the least bit critical of Israel? lol

How about the fact that we send them like $20 billion annually to no real benefit to us as they continue to do what they want and defy true cooperation? They already broke the ceasefire in Gaza numerous times.

Dude, did you see the NYC Mayoral race? literally every candidate except Mamdani (who is unfortunately a clown) said that they would visit Israel. How the **** is that a priority of the Mayor of NYC or how does that have absolutely anything to do with their job as mayor of NYC?

America is beyond jew cucked. It's just reality. From entertainment to news to politics.

gg.

It's a combination of it being the nature of the jew to destroy and them pushing the diversity message far and wide as some desperate attempt to get people to welcome them more.

Well enough is enough.

[Yes or No]

Jews are LITERALLY between 900-1000% over-represented in the media compared to their general population in the rest of the US. I'm sure it's just a coincidence and they definitely aren't being subversive in any way shape or form, lol.

[Baller234]

his point is valid. anyone that is verbal about legitimate criticism of israel, is met with an antisemitic tag - much similar to what the libs did with anyone not bending the knee to the woke movement. it's frustrating especially bc your side wants us to ignore war crimes and genocide at the hands of israel.

His point isn't valid at all. You're desperately trying to push this lie.

"You're only upset because we're criticizing Israel!"

No, it's because you're slurping the c0ck of people who literally praise Hitler.

Be a man and own it f@ggot.

[Baller234]

How about the fact that the US regularly vetoes @ the UN any resolutions that are the least bit critical of Israel? lol

How about the fact that we send them like $20 billion annually to no real benefit to us as they continue to do what they want and defy true cooperation? They already broke the ceasefire in Gaza numerous times.

Dude, did you see the NYC Mayoral race? literally every candidate except Mamdani (who is unfortunately a clown) said that they would visit Israel. How the **** is that a priority of the Mayor of NYC or how does that have absolutely anything to do with their job as mayor of NYC?

America is beyond jew cucked. It's just reality. From entertainment to news to politics.

gg.

It's a combination of it being the nature of the jew to destroy and them pushing the diversity message far and wide as some desperate attempt to get people to welcome them more.

Well enough is enough.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Okay Adolf.

I guess this is the part where we just overlook all the evil shit your people have done and just blame everything on the joos.

History is repeating itself.

[Yes or No]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Okay Adolf.

I guess this is the part where we just overlook all the evil shit your people have done and just blame everything on the joos.

History is repeating itself.

Yes, the jews have been expelled from over 100 countries just by a coincidence. Never mind that this hasn't happened to literally any other race or religion at scale like this. Guess it's just because the jews were all adding so much to the societies they decided to be part of right?

[Baller234]

Jews are LITERALLY between 900-1000% over-represented in the media compared to their general population in the rest of the US. I'm sure it's just a coincidence and they definitely aren't being subversive in any way shape or form, lol.

Cry more bitch.

All you guys do is cry. Either it's the muslims invading and conquering your countries, or it's the jews subverting and manipulating.

You yourself said that jews were a very smart and high IQ people. That's what YOU said. Your own words. I did not provoke that out of you.

Jews did not come to America with power or influence. They were an underclass like every other immigrant group. They were tradesmen and craftsmen. They took advantage of the opportunities America had to offer so that the next generation could be doctors, lawyers and businessmen. They built the entertainment industry as you know it.

"WAHH they're over-represented..." okay, and?

Guess what, the chinese dominate in math. Are you gonna cry about that too?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSa8l-F_Z9wKUOWyoTJyGnAfCWbqEsKXIf_Q&s

^ This a problem to you? We should be upset that the best mathematicians our country has to offer are all chinese? You're gonna cry because other groups are kicking YOUR ass??

:oldlol:

The inferiority complex you guys have is INSANE.

[Baller234]

Yes, the jews have been expelled from over 100 countries just by a coincidence. Never mind that this hasn't happened to literally any other race or religion at scale like this. Guess it's just because the jews were all adding so much to the societies they decided to be part of right?

"Hitler wasn't all bad..."

But sure, we wouldn't wanna dare insinuate that you hate joos or anything.

:oldlol:

[Baller234]

If you have to ask this question, then you're pretty blind to the reality.

Well clearly I have to ask the question, because no one in this thread can answer it.

All I got in response was memes and joo sperging.

[highwhey]

Well clearly I have to ask the question, because no one in this thread can answer it.

All I got in response was memes and joo sperging.

because the question reads as troll bait, and no one is falling for it. i hope that helps.

[Baller234]

because the question reads as troll bait, and no one is falling for it. i hope that helps.

Woke f@ggot highwhey: "America puts Israel first!..."

Me: "Okay fine, give me specific examples..."

Woke f@ggot highwhey: "Uhh....uhhh...uh... sounds like troll bait. Not falling for it..."


:oldlol:

[highwhey]

Woke f@ggot highwhey: "America puts Israel first!..."

Me: "Okay fine, give me specific examples..."

Woke f@ggot highwhey: "Uhh....uhhh...uh... sounds like troll bait. Not falling for it..."


:oldlol:

i hope one day you cease this victimhood mentality and find true peace versus trying elicit negative reactions from people.

[Baller234]

I can't support my arguments. I'm just a gay loser troll who wants to rail on joos because I hate my own miserable life...

^ I know.

[Yes or No]

You yourself said that jews were a very smart and high IQ people. That's what YOU said. Your own words. I did not provoke that out of you..

Hey dipshit since you are starting to acknowledge that there's some truth to genetic stereotypes how about you start acknowledging that jews are subversive parasites?

And just so your dumbass really understands because you still aren't getting it, I am not saying every jew is the same way. I am saying that there are enough jews that do behave this way that it is a serious problem, at a substantially higher rate than any other race/religion and there is no close second place.

There are no absolutes when it comes to race/religion/gender but stereotypes didn't just come out of thin air. They got there for a reason and it wasn't as simple as people hating each other for unshared characteristics. How about being honest for once in your ****ing life.

[Baller234]

Hey dipshit since you are starting to acknowledge that there's some truth to genetic stereotypes how about you start acknowledging that jews are subversive parasites?

And just so your dumbass really understands because you still aren't getting it, I am not saying every jew is the same way. I am saying that there are enough jews that do behave this way that it is a serious problem, at a substantially higher rate than any other race/religion and there is no close second place.

There are no absolutes when it comes to race/religion/gender but stereotypes didn't just come out of thin air. They got there for a reason and it wasn't as simple as people hating each other for unshared characteristics. How about being honest for once in your ****ing life.

Behave in WHAT way???

When it comes to blacks we can point to specific examples. We can say "Hey look black people aren't all bad but there are A LOT of blacks acting in a certain manner and it's not helping anyone." We can point to the looting, the crime, the ignorance, the rachetness, etc.

So WHICH joos are you referring to and WHAT are they doing that is making this country so miserable for you?

Don't just give me vague bullshit. Show me these "misbehaving" joos that are apparently destroying the country.

[Yes or No]

Behave in WHAT way???

When it comes to blacks we can point to specific examples. We can say "Hey look black people aren't all bad but there are A LOT of blacks acting in a certain manner and it's not helping anyone." We can point to the looting, the crime, the ignorance, the rachetness, etc.

So WHICH joos are you referring to and WHAT are they doing that is making this country so miserable for you?

Don't just give me vague bullshit. Show me these "misbehaving" joos that are apparently destroying the country.

I already told you that they're 1000% overrepresented in media. If you can't fill in the gaps to see that there is no more honesty in media nowadays I don't know what to tell you. Yeah you're hopeless, it's my fault for forgetting.

[Baller234]

I already told you that they're 1000% overrepresented in media. If you can't fill in the gaps to see that there is no more honesty in media nowadays I don't know what to tell you. Yeah you're hopeless, it's my fault for forgetting.

So let me get this straight.

Jewish people are a serious problem and pose a real threat. They're destroying the country. You don't hate all of them, but as a general rule of thumb you think they are innately evil and destructive. "The nature of the jew" you referred to it as. You believe most of them are this way.

And your irrefutable proof that this is true, the very first thing that triggered your mind... was

:: checks notes ::

There are too many jewish entertainers in Hollywood.

So essentially your grand thesis is:

"Jewish people are evil and destructive, and my proof is that there are a lot of jewish entertainers in Hollywood..."

An industry that jewish people built and created.

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Are you sure you're not just a woke weakling with an insecurity complex?

[jstern]

The first time I heard the term woke right was in reference to zionists who started using the exact same woke tactics to try and sensor anti Israel comments. It was then hijacked by people like Netanyahu.

There are way too many examples of America putting Israel first, else it wouldn't such a big topic at the moment in the US.

1. When politicians sacrifice American's first amendment right, in the name of Israel. Pushing for the TikTok ban, using the excuse of Chinese influence, then they sell it to Larry Ellison, and suddenly any criticism of Israel gets removed (Putting an IDF person in charge of it). Mitt Romney even admitted that the push for a TikTok ban was because Americans were seeing too many Palestinians killed. Then there's the fact that laws are created so that an American is not free to boycott Israel. That's putting Israel's interests ahead of the constitutional rights of Americans. This is very important for Israel, life or death, because if they don't have American support, they are ****ed.

2. Remember when Trump, who I love, threatened to deny FEMA aid to states if they boycotted Israel? That's insane. They were considering letting US citizens die, if the state was not loyal to Israel.

3. Lets be real, the war in Iraq, trillions of dollars spent, thousands of US soldiers dead, maimed, missing arms, were for the interest of Israel. The 6 country in 5 years memo. That's an insane amount of destruction, lives destroyed, PTSD, even for survivors.

4. AIPAC has bragged about controlling our national security team, in leaked audio. That they have groomed and vetted US National Security officials, including the head of the CIA.

5. Threatening to put students in prison, and cut off funds for universities who have students who protest the killings in Gaza.

Also, it used to be antisemitic to conflate zionism with Judaism.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWEbZ8_Vxgg

[John8204]

Jews are LITERALLY between 900-1000% over-represented in the media compared to their general population in the rest of the US. I'm sure it's just a coincidence and they definitely aren't being subversive in any way shape or form, lol.

We do get Holocaust movies every year, but at no point do we ever get any context as to why the Socialists were against the Jews. When capitalism causes genocides in history it's crickets in Hollywood

[Baller234]

The first time I heard the term woke right was in reference to zionists who started using the exact same woke tactics to try and sensor anti Israel comments. It was then hijacked by people like Netanyahu.

There are way too many examples of America putting Israel first, else it wouldn't such a big topic at the moment in the US.

1. When politicians sacrifice American's first amendment right, in the name of Israel. Pushing for the TikTok ban, using the excuse of Chinese influence, then they sell it to Larry Ellison, and suddenly any criticism of Israel gets removed (Putting an IDF person in charge of it). Mitt Romney even admitted that the push for a TikTok ban was because Americans were seeing too many Palestinians killed. Then there's the fact that laws are created so that an American is not free to boycott Israel. That's putting Israel's interests ahead of the constitutional rights of Americans. This is very important for Israel, life or death, because if they don't have American support, they are ****ed.

Please point to a specific example.


2. Remember when Trump, who I love, threatened to deny FEMA aid to states if they boycotted Israel? That's insane. They were considering letting US citizens die, if the state was not loyal to Israel.

Which states? Which citizens? I want you to provide an example of this happening. This framing is extremely disingenuous.

Sorry but the federal government is not obligated to give money to state governments who are hell bent on undermining foreign policy and making a political statement at the expense of their constituents. I wouldn't want my local leadership disrupting supply chains and jeopardizing long standing trade partnerships just because the companies they're dealing with happen to be located in Israel. Funny I don't see anyone arguing that we should boycott goods coming out of China or India or any other country that's known for human rights violations.

And sorry but you sound like a huge hypocrite. You're basically accusing Trump of the worst things imaginable but you still claim to be a supporter. Not sure how that makes any sense whatsoever. Doesn't really sound like you have the courage of your convictions.


3. Lets be real, the war in Iraq, trillions of dollars spent, thousands of US soldiers dead, maimed, missing arms, were for the interest of Israel. The 6 country in 5 years memo. That's an insane amount of destruction, lives destroyed, PTSD, even for survivors.

Dick Cheney was jewish? Dick Cheney was working on behalf of Israel? Was he a stooge also? Was he photographed at an Epstein party? We're just blaming all of world history on Israel now? :oldlol:


4. AIPAC has bragged about controlling our national security team, in leaked audio. That they have groomed and vetted US National Security officials, including the head of the CIA.

They bragged about CONTROLLING our national security? Lol. I highly doubt that. I would love to hear the audio you're referring to so I could hear the full context. Because I'm willing to bet you're reaching here and misrepresenting what was actually said.



5. Threatening to put students in prison, and cut off funds for universities who have students who protest the killings in Gaza.

Once again this is false and extremely bad faith. The issue wasn't students protesting, it was the harassment of jewish students on campus.


Also, it used to be antisemitic to conflate zionism with Judaism.

Sorry but you can't play this game when your side is openly endorsing people like Nick Fuentes and other pro-Hitler advocates. I don't like accusing people of racism and just hurling baseless labels at them, but I'm not going to apologize for calling someone a nazi if they're pro-Hitler or cozy with people that are pro-Hitler. And you guys seem more than willing to play dumb on this.





I appreciate you actually trying to have a conversation and bringing examples to the table instead of mindless trolling like the other woke f@gs, but in the end your entire argument hinges on hyperbole and joo sperging.

[Baller234]

We do get Holocaust movies every year, but at no point do we ever get any context as to why the Socialists were against the Jews. When capitalism causes genocides in history it's crickets in Hollywood

"Hitler had a point..."

"We never hear Hitler's side of the story..."

"The joos had it coming..."



Now the joos are going to be blamed for capitalism. :oldlol:


You people are really sick in the head.

[Patrick Chewing]

2. Remember when Trump, who I love, threatened to deny FEMA aid to states if they boycotted Israel? That's insane. They were considering letting US citizens die, if the state was not loyal to Israel.




What in the actual **** are you talking about??


:facepalm

[jstern]

What in the actual **** are you talking about??


:facepalm


US states and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied federal aid for natural disaster preparedness, the Trump administration announced Monday, tying routine federal funding to its political stance.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency stated in grant notices posted on Friday that states must follow its “terms and conditions.”

Those conditions require that they certify they will not sever “commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies.”

The requirement applies to at least $1.9 billion that states rely on to cover search-and-rescue equipment, emergency manager salaries and backup power systems among other expenses, according to 11 agency grant notices reviewed by Reuters.

The requirement is the Trump administration’s latest effort to use federal funding to promote its views on Israel.

The Department of Homeland Security, the agency that oversees FEMA, in April said that boycotting Israel is prohibited for states and cities receiving its grant funds.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-admin-links-1-9-billion-in-local-disaster-funds-to-stance-on-israel-boycotts/

[Baller234]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-admin-links-1-9-billion-in-local-disaster-funds-to-stance-on-israel-boycotts/

Sorry but I don't think states should receive federal aid if they are willing to grandstand and virtue signal at the expense of U.S. foreign relations and also their own constituents. China has it's fair share of human rights violations and abuses but I don't see anyone declaring that we should boycott goods that are imported from Chinese companies because of it.

This is a far cry from "Trump is withholding money from states because they don't like Israel".

That is an extremely bad faith interpretation on your part, and if you truly believed it there should be no reason for you to support Trump.

[jstern]

Sorry but I don't think states should receive federal aid if they are willing to grandstand and virtue signal at the expense of U.S. foreign relations and also their own constituents. China has it's fair share of human rights violations and abuses but I don't see anyone declaring that we should boycott goods that are imported from Chinese companies because of it.

This is a far cry from "Trump is withholding money from states because they don't like Israel".

That is an extremely bad faith interpretation on your part, and if you truly believed it there should be no reason for you to support Trump.

These people are Americans, they should not be denied aid just because a foreign country is coercing the government. It doesn't work that way.

That's just like the Fema person who tried to prevent aid in areas that she BELIEVED were Trump supporting, back in 2024.


https://youtu.be/LLubb9b6Vsk

[Baller234]

These people are Americans, they should not be denied aid just because a foreign country is coercing the government. It doesn't work that way.

That's just like the Fema person who tried to prevent aid in areas that she perceived to be Trump supporters, back in 2024.

Wow, nice false equivalency you have there. First of all, Trump did not leave anyone to die or deny relief to any victim.

If you read the article you shared, the proposed condition was tied to "preparedness and mitigation" grants to state and local governments, not to the post-disaster relief programs that help displaced residents.

So yes some state level disaster preparedness funding could have been at risk under the proposed rule if a state refused to certify it wouldn’t boycott Israel, but ordinary citizens affected by a hurricane, wildfire, flood, etc., would still receive FEMA emergency aid because those programs operate under separate mandates and constitutional protections.

Like I said, wake me up when these same states start boycotting Chinese companies.

[Baller234]

Almost every argument from the woke right is made up and not grounded in reality.



Claim: "Colleges are being denied funding and students are being punished for protesting the war in Gaza!"

Reality: Jewish students were being physically harassed.

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Claim: "You're calling us racist and antisemtic because we disagree about Israel!"

Reality: No it's because you're the side of pro-Hitler advocates.

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Claim: "Trump was denying FEMA aid to states that boycott Israel!"

Reality: Trump threatened to deny grants to states that undermined trade partnerships and foreign policy.

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Claim: "Israel controls everyone! They're responsible for everything!"

Reality: Israel does not control everyone and is not responsible for everything.


Just pure brain rot.

[Patrick Chewing]

These people are Americans, they should not be denied aid just because a foreign country is coercing the government. It doesn't work that way.

That's just like the Fema person who tried to prevent aid in areas that she BELIEVED were Trump supporting, back in 2024.


https://youtu.be/LLubb9b6Vsk

And the administration reversed course on that. It does seem kind of silly to do that, but I understand what they were trying to do, which is to combat antisemitism.


The animosity towards Israel has nothing to do with the plight of the Palestinian people. I just want to make that clear. Most people protesting Israel have no idea where Palestine even is. They don't care about Palestinians. Most Palestinians hate Americans and want us dead. Most of the animosity towards Israel is based out of pure ignorance, hatred, and antisemitism.

[jstern]

Wow, nice false equivalency you have there. First of all, Trump did not leave anyone to die or deny relief to any victim.

If you read the article you shared, the proposed condition was tied to "preparedness and mitigation" grants to state and local governments, not to the post-disaster relief programs that help displaced residents.

So yes some state level disaster preparedness funding could have been at risk under the proposed rule if a state refused to certify it wouldn’t boycott Israel, but ordinary citizens affected by a hurricane, wildfire, flood, etc., would still receive FEMA emergency aid because those programs operate under separate mandates and constitutional protections.

Like I said, wake me up when these same states start boycotting Chinese companies.

I provided 5 examples, you're focusing on this one.

Of course, they didn't leave anyone to die, they had to reverse it a day later due to the amount of complaints they were getting from Americans. Including MAGA Americans who saw it as Israel first.

And the idea that Jewish people are unsafe and in danger, being harassed because people are protesting the bombing of kids with US tax payer dollars, is pure gaslighting, propaganda BS by the Zionists. Very similar to tactics used by the woke left. Woke tactics. Pretending with crocodile tears that a particular group is a victim. Like black people being in danger due to a fake white supremacists problem.

Didn't Columbia have to pay Jewish employees 21 million dollars because having to walk by the protesting of the bombing of little kids was so traumatizing? Or rather, the US government needs to pretend that it was traumatizing, for the fake narrative, and so to make it more legit, they forced Columbia to have to give them 21 million dollars?

[Baller234]

I provided 5 examples, you're focusing on this one.

Of course, they didn't leave anyone to die, they had to reverse it a day later due to the amount of complaints they were getting from Americans. Including MAGA Americans who saw it as Israel first.

And the idea that Jewish people are unsafe and in danger, being harassed because people are protesting the bombing of kids with US tax payer dollars, is pure gaslighting, propaganda BS by the Zionists. Very similar to tactics used by the woke left. Woke tactics. Pretending with crocodile tears that a particular group is a victim. Like black people being in danger due to a fake white supremacists problem.

Didn't Columbia have to pay Jewish employees 21 million dollars because having to walk by the protesting of the bombing of little kids was so traumatizing? Or rather, the US government needs to pretend that it was traumatizing, for the fake narrative, and so to make it more legit, they forced Columbia to have to give them 21 million dollars?

https://x.com/sfmcguire79/status/1829129748607357152?s=20

https://x.com/NeriaKraus/status/1782258191973089715?s=20

https://x.com/StopAntisemites/status/1785282124766929152?s=20

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1782197108721742211?s=20

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1722450340946055409?s=20

https://x.com/VividProwess/status/1915185697587183918?s=20

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1914935729165160942?s=20

https://x.com/YoniMichanie/status/1719670811403903008?s=20

https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1762620356894859296?s=20

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1858725908682609077?s=20


I don't know JStern, I'm starting to second guess you.

[jstern]

https://x.com/sfmcguire79/status/1829129748607357152?s=20

https://x.com/NeriaKraus/status/1782258191973089715?s=20

https://x.com/StopAntisemites/status/1785282124766929152?s=20

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1782197108721742211?s=20

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1722450340946055409?s=20

https://x.com/VividProwess/status/1915185697587183918?s=20

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1914935729165160942?s=20

https://x.com/YoniMichanie/status/1719670811403903008?s=20

https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1762620356894859296?s=20

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1858725908682609077?s=20


I don't know JStern, I'm starting to second guess you.

It's never going to be clean when you have large protests involving thousands of people. Things are going to happen, and then you can pick and choose videos. They are anti Zionists, which is different from Jewish people. The nuance is.

- A good percentage of the protest are Jewish. Jewish people make up about 3% of the students, but a higher percentage of them were protestors, compared to other group. But with their large presence, it cannot be anti semitic.

- Many of the videos are of Zionists instigating.

- One of the videos shows students going into a house where a vile Israeli politician is going to speak, so protests as well as news cameras there are expected.

- There are many videos of zionists trying to provoke the protestors. Like the girl who was walking through them to pretend that she was poked in the eye.

What I did not see was any Jewish person getting beat up, or some epidemic where Jewish people are getting hurt, killed left and right.

It will likely happen, though, in the future, for no other reason than Israel and their conflating Judaism with Zionism and the way the world is viewing Israel since October. Which is likely something that Israel would want, to claim anti semitism.

This is what's common.


https://youtu.be/hqGOTXJjCCM

[John8204]

"Hitler had a point..."

"We never hear Hitler's side of the story..."

"The joos had it coming..."



Now the joos are going to be blamed for capitalism. :oldlol:


You people are really sick in the head.

It's more about the suppression of genocides from other people. People like you think that Hitler and Germany was the first country to ever have concentration camps. Facts are not hate crimes, and propaganda isn't just the stuff you disagree with. Also if you want the point about Hitler...he didn't do the death camps. Hitler was incharge of the army Himmler and the SS did the genocide of foreigners that were mostly jews.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m17oElr86AM

[HoopsNY]

Well clearly I have to ask the question, because no one in this thread can answer it.

All I got in response was memes and joo sperging.

Okay, so answer me this. Why did Mike Huckabee invite convicted Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard, who was convicted of selling classified US intel to Mossad, to the US embassy in Jerusalem?

This is a very tiny example, but it will drive home the point as you move on to much bigger examples.

[1987_Lakers]

Okay, so answer me this. Why did Mike Huckabee invite convicted Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard, who was convicted of selling classified US intel to Mossad, to the US embassy in Jerusalem?

This is a very tiny example, but it will drive home the point as you move on to much bigger examples.

This story just broke out too.

Lol @ OP still sucking off Israel.

[diamenz]

i was doing my best trying to avoid this thread as op and i have already had a lengthy debate over this however everyone else here couldn't help but dig themselves into a hole by providing zero examples relating to the question.

- a quick rewind to my argument that the israel lobby, taking full advantage the strong presence of christian zionism in the bush administration, worked alongside (though separate from) big oil and our weapons industry to exert influence and encourage the bush administration into tossing us into the quagmire that was iraq; the argument of which i provided thorough evidence for yet was dismissed out of hand, can be found below:

www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?522532-quot-i-ve-gotta-be-careful-the-way-i-say-this-quot/page4

which by the way, op's counterargument in a nutshell was "well michael moore, christian bale and the fake news media never informed me of this theory and jewish wizards would have had to concoct some legendary spell in order to set something like this in motion, yadda yadda...", as i was saying provided zero counterargument against, refused to look into the theory on his own accord and simply dismissed it because he's either a blatant liar, is incredibly biased or just not as intelligent as i gave him credit for. i'll give him the benefit of the doubt in guessing it's personal bias being a conservative jew; but you need to at least try setting aside your biases and be objective when entertaining a theory that goes against your narrative.

anyway, i digress. other examples:

- aggressive and often times violent land theft in the west bank, often times enabled by the idf, has escalated in recent years and has gotten countless americans killed before and especially after oct 7th. "investigations" on the part of our government are never pursued or followed up on and israeli perpetrators are never held to account. this is a perfect example of how america casts aside our own interests in favor of a foreign government - our government officials have nothing to say because... they're bought. hope that one isn't a jewish trope.

- false flag operations on the part of israel, in particular the uss liberty incident and lavon affair, have shown strong evidence to have been deliberate actions against the us in order to either secure israeli military interests, increase tensions with israeli antgagonists and bringing the us to their side of the ledger to force our hand into their conflicts. is that a trope?

- israel's heavy-handed approach in response to the oct 7th attacks resulting in an 83% civilian kill rate has led to international condemnation, has ultimately turned israel into a pariah state and has harmed both israeli and us global standing on:

human rights violations
accusations of genocide by scholars and international organizations
strained relations with muslim/arab states
challenges to diplomacy
fueling more extremism and hate towards the us and israel

our unwavering support of israel's controversial actions go against our values as a liberal democracy, increases tensions with other allies in the region and even works against israeli interests in securing stability accords with the peninsular arabs (saudi, uae, qatar, etc). that one's a trope for sure.

- long-vision pursuit of the greater israel project, endorsed by not only cabinet members such as gvir and smotrich but netanyahu himselfand the lukid party in general. this is a belief stated within the doctrine of the party and is based on ridiculous biblical claims to land and if pursued would not only go against our moral and strategic interests but cost us billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars and military assets that would enable even more mass murder and ethnic cleansing of palestinians. but who cares - they're sub-human anyway.

- media monopoly and ability to sway public opinion with biased coverage, only giving americans one side of the story. just recently, tech billionaire and self-proclaimed zionist larry ellison along with journalist and zionist barry weiss, acquired cbs/skydance and going forward will only further tilt the scale in favor of biased coverage. netanyahu has also publicly stated that israel will pursue a propaganda campaign, spending billions on tiktok, twitter as well as other social media platforms rewarding influencers that push pro-israel viewpoints.

- they've also bought off the majority of our congress, threatening to end the careers of politicians that don't hop on the pro-israel train, the most recent example of which being thomas massie. thomas massie - the america-first congressman along with mtg & ro khanna, responsible for jump-starting the legislative effort to release the epstein files. so if you as a member of congress challenge the israel lobby, they will punish you. you will get pushed out and this is nothing new.

- providing safe haven for jewish american pedophiles. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/

there are other examples, but i'll leave those to op to bring to light when he does his intellectually-honest deep dive into the subject.

[diamenz]

when your government officials tell you who they are, believe them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KnAJGrEeKw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYWynhmxewg

[diamenz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgc1OAc790


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRI_NfCQdSM

[ShawkFactory]

- israel's heavy-handed approach in response to the oct 7th attacks resulting in an 83% civilian kill rate has led to international condemnation, has ultimately turned israel into a pariah state and has harmed both israeli and us global standing on:

human rights violations
accusations of genocide by scholars and international organizations
strained relations with muslim/arab states
challenges to diplomacy
fueling more extremism and hate towards the us and israel

our unwavering support of israel's controversial actions go against our values as a liberal democracy, increases tensions with other allies in the region and even works against israeli interests in securing stability accords with the peninsular arabs (saudi, uae, qatar, etc). that one's a trope for sure.

Hit the nail on the head here. This is one is particular is the most frustrating thing that pro-Israel and/or anti-Islam tend to completely ignore. And this started long before the events on October 7th.

A lot of people tend to label Arabs/Islamic folks as purely an enemy lacking humanity. Almost like a Michael Myers, Jason, T-1000 type of thing where they just hate us and that's how they're programmed to be. These are humans, and humans are greatly affected at times by the actions of others (the US and Israel in this case). Nothing will ever be solved if those on this side of the house can't acknowledge their part in creating such instability and with it, disdain for the US and Israeli governments. It's like you're bullying someone mercilessly for years, and when the other kid snaps and hits you back you go "wow, this kid is such an asshole. Fvck him". Look in the mirror folks.

Slightly off-topic rant done.

[HoopsNY]

Hit the nail on the head here. This is one is particular is the most frustrating thing that pro-Israel and/or anti-Islam tend to completely ignore. And this started long before the events on October 7th.

A lot of people tend to label Arabs/Islamic folks as purely an enemy lacking humanity. Almost like a Michael Myers, Jason, T-1000 type of thing where they just hate us and that's how they're programmed to be. These are humans, and humans are greatly affected at times by the actions of others (the US and Israel in this case). Nothing will ever be solved if those on this side of the house can't acknowledge their part in creating such instability and with it, disdain for the US and Israeli governments. It's like you're bullying someone mercilessly for years, and when the other kid snaps and hits you back you go "wow, this kid is such an asshole. Fvck him". Look in the mirror folks.

Slightly off-topic rant done.

All these problems began because of Israel. I looked a lot into this whole problem. October 7th was a response to 75 years of killing, land theft, stealing, unlawful imprisonment, etc.

Was it justifiable? No. I think it's shitty to take old ladies and some kids amongst your hostages — but Israel does it too and it doesn't seem to bother anyone.

And if we go down that path, then we can begin to discuss the events that unfolded with Nat Turner and the slave rebellion of 1831 when they set it on every white man, woman, and child. Another example was the Powhatan massacre following a series of events in and around Jamestown in 1622. In response to land grabs, kidnappings, and killings, the Indians set it on the settlers.

So what were slaves supposed to do? Sit back and continue to take it? Were Native Americans supposed to do the same? Does the end result absolutely suck? Yea...but I'm wondering why the story is never told from the other side. Sadly, it took this event to wake me up, but it appears a lot of others are as well.