Anthony Davis is said to be on the block now.

[Kblaze8855]

Mavs going full future and building around Cooper. I suppose they would also get rid of Kyrie in that situation.

Might as well start the speculation…

Usual suspects no doubt. Lakers, Warriors, Heat, Bucks…Nuggets?

Would Braun and Cam be a starting point for something stacked on top of picks?

Who would you be targeting as Dallas with injured Kyrie and AD being expendable?

[Kblaze8855]

Report coming from Tim Macmahon the Mavs reporter of like 15-18 years if you care who said it.

[Yes or No]

Buyout -> Back to Lakers -> Championship -> LeBron retires

[Real Men Wear Green]

I don't see how the Lakers pull it off with James' having a no-trade. Lots of teams would like to have him but the team that should do whatever it takes to get him is the Warriors. Butler, Green whoever Dallas wants other than Curry should be available. Until Giannis comes available that's the best chance for Curry to have a last hurrah.

Dallas would say "no" if they care about money but it would be worth it for Philly to get rid of George or Embiid for Davis at the price of Edgecomb and some future firsts...I'm sure someone woulod say that this is a terrible idea, just spitballing, please don't kill me.

[Kblaze8855]

Think Jason Kidd would believe he could fix Ja Morant?

[tpols]

Makes you think how rigged this league is looking back on the Luka trade. Lakers and Lebron and the players association are running this league like a mafia.

[Yes or No]

Makes you think how rigged this league is looking back on the Luka trade. Lakers and Lebron and the players association are running this league like a mafia.

You are in complete denial about how petty and stupid Nico Harrison is. Oh well, you'll never change your mind.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Think Jason Kidd would believe he could fix Ja Morant?
They already stuck Kidd out there to explain the shitshow after the Doncic/Davis disaster. If they follow it up by making him deal with Morant he's either going to quit or demand 50 mil a year.

[tpols]

You are in complete denial about how petty and stupid Nico Harrison is. Oh well, you'll never change your mind.

The ****ed up thing is when Kobe could've had prime Chris Paul changing everything the league cockblocked him but they let Lebron have Luka. :oldlol: :facepalm And trade prime AD for Ingram. Crazy stuff.

These dudes really parlayed Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball into AD and Luka.

[Xiao Yao You]

Options are limited. Makes too much money, is always hurt, thinks hes a 4 not a 5...

[FultzNationRISE]

Mavs going full future and building around Cooper. I suppose they would also get rid of Kyrie in that situation.

Might as well start the speculation…

Usual suspects no doubt. Lakers, Warriors, Heat, Bucks…Nuggets?

Would Braun and Cam be a starting point for something stacked on top of picks?

Who would you be targeting as Dallas with injured Kyrie and AD being expendable?


Lol. Never took you for a mornin drinker.

Two core pieces of Denver's future on value contracts just entering their prime for a guy who never plays?

I think youre way overestimating this dudes trade value.

The guy never plays. I dont see teams giving up real things for him. And yes, some insane team probably will, but I dont see it being the Nuggets. Theyre too measured. It would have to come from an overzealous owner, like Mat Ishbia or Steve Ballmer. Owners who believe they can "will" bad questionable decisions to work out.

[FultzNationRISE]

Think Jason Kidd would believe he could fix Ja Morant?


Bro. You are on BOOZE this morning.

Theyre not bringing Ja's drama and baggage into to a team thats building positive energy around Cooper Flagg.

[Xiao Yao You]

Lol. Never took you for a mornin drinker.

Two core pieces of Denver's future on value contracts just entering their prime for a guy who never plays?

I think youre way overestimating this dudes trade value.

The guy never plays. I dont see teams giving up real things for him. And yes, some insane team probably will, but I dont see it being the Nuggets. Theyre too measured. It would have to come from an overzealous owner, like Mat Ishbia or Steve Ballmer. Owners who believe they can "will" bad questionable decisions to work out.

Some $ worthy insight! :cheers:

[Kblaze8855]

I dont see teams giving up real things for him. And yes, some insane team probably will




Those two thoughts are incompatible. More of your putting more weight on what you think should be the case instead of what usually is.

[tpols]

Bro. You are on BOOZE this morning.

Theyre not bringing Ja's drama and baggage into to a team thats building positive energy around Cooper Flagg.


Ja is the new Westbrook.

:roll:

A bomb on any team he joins. Or I guess in his case... a gun.

[Kblaze8855]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

[FultzNationRISE]

Those two thoughts are incompatible. More of your putting more weight on what you think should be the case instead of what usually is.

Well in any event. Denver's not giving up quality assets to experiment with Davis and Jokic midseason. That I am sure of. Denver took the champs to Game 7 last year and have a better roster this year. It's not a risk they have any reason to take.

If Cleveland feels they were too soft up front in the playoffs last year when they got smoked by Indy, and decides they really need a shakeup to get over the hump, maybe you offer Jarrett Allen for Davis. With an extra guy to make the deals match. But the aprons complicate these trades.

If injuries werent a factor I could see the Wolves offering a Toody swap. But Rudy actually plays for the most part, even if he doesnt play particularly well. You cant improve the team by adding a guy in street clothes.

Outside of that? I honestly dont see any teams that look like logical destinations.

[Im Still Ballin]

The play here is tank 2025-26, league gifts Dallas 1st pick again, draft Dybantsa or Petersen, then you've got your Tatum & Brown. Your Chet & J-Will.

They just have to figure out what to do with AD & Kyrie...

Do you sell them ASAP for whatever you can get? Or do you sit them out for 2025-26, get Dybantsa/Petersen, then reload for 2026-27?

[Xiao Yao You]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

So great as long as dont care about efficiency

[Kblaze8855]

The ****ed up thing is when Kobe could've had prime Chris Paul changing everything the league cockblocked him but they let Lebron have Luka. :oldlol: :facepalm And trade prime AD for Ingram. Crazy stuff.

These dudes really parlayed Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball into AD and Luka.


If the Mavs had 29 owners at the time while they looked for a replacement for Cuban like happened with the Hornets rest assured Silver gets a Gilbert letter too

https://www.hostpic.org/images/2511192323270313.jpeg

[Xiao Yao You]

Well in any event. Denver's not giving up quality assets to experiment with Davis and Jokic midseason. That I am sure of. Denver took the champs to Game 7 last year and have a better roster this year. It's not a risk they have any reason to take.

If Cleveland feels they were too soft up front in the playoffs last year when they got smoked by Indy, and decides they really need a shakeup to get over the hump, maybe you offer Jarrett Allen for Davis. With an extra guy to make the deals match. But the aprons complicate these trades.

If injuries werent a factor I could see the Wolves offering a Toody swap. But Rudy actually plays for the most part, even if he doesnt play particularly well. You cant improve the team by adding a guy in street clothes.

Outside of that? I honestly dont see any teams that look like logical destinations.

Not particulatly well on his way to taking down the favorites and defending champs and 2 straight conference finals. No wonder no one pays for your insights

[Kblaze8855]

So great as long as dont care about efficiency

Marbury was more efficient on the Nets than Kidd who had 48 true shooting his first year there. Safe to say it didn’t make him more effective.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.I will admit to having forgotten Kidd's semi-criminal record as a player. So there is reason to think Kidd would give him a shot. A different concern with Morant though is that he's not going to be able to play that high-flyer style much longer. He takes some bad falls and has such a slight build, he has to learn to play on the ground at a high level but unfortunately it's that explosiveness that makes him special. Could he learn to run a team and lead like Kidd? I don't think we've seen that from him, he's always been in the mold of young Rose. Kidd was fast but he was pass-first, second and third whereas a great game from Morant involves a lot of scoring.

[Xiao Yao You]

Marbury was more efficient on the Nets than Kidd who had 48 true shooting his first year there. Safe to say it didn’t make him more effective.

Marbury had a much different roster despite the narrative saying it was the same team

[FultzNationRISE]

The play here is tank 2025-26, league gifts Dallas 1st pick again, draft Dybantsa or Petersen, then you've got your Tatum & Brown. Your Chet & J-Will.

They just have to figure out what to do with AD & Kyrie...

Do you sell them ASAP for whatever you can get? Or do you sit them out for 2025-26, get Dybantsa/Petersen, then reload for 2026-27?


Unless they get an unexpectedly good offer for Irving before he returns, I think you keep him and let him play with Flagg for a bit. It will be an exciting pairing, it will be helpful in Cooper's development, and it will rebuild Irving's trade value after the injury.

AD you can move now or later, whenever you feel the market is the best it's going to be I guess.

[Kblaze8855]

Well in any event. Denver's not giving up quality assets to experiment with Davis and Jokic midseason. That I am sure of. Denver took the champs to Game 7 last year and have a better roster this year. It's not a risk they have any reason to take.

If Cleveland feels they were too soft up front in the playoffs last year when they got smoked by Indy, and decides they really need a shakeup to get over the hump, maybe you offer Jarrett Allen for Davis. With an extra guy to make the deals match. But the aprons complicate these trades.

If injuries werent a factor I could see the Wolves offering a Toody swap. But Rudy actually plays for the most part, even if he doesnt play particularly well. You cant improve the team by adding a guy in street clothes.

Outside of that? I honestly dont see any teams that look like logical destinations.


If they shoot for another big I’d imagine it would be a young one on a team that’s anti tank. Like Miami. You ask for this kid



https://youtu.be/rJOqpdMbaAw?si=9H7smbgM5LlVvBWz


Him plus Herro and one of their nobodies gets you about 44 of 54 million. You figure out the rest with third teams or whatever you gotta do.

Heat score 125 a game this year without Herro playing a second yet. He expires next year so Dallas has no long term issues.

Heat basically add a superstar when healthy with Bam there so they don’t actually NEED him to be healthy…and give up a really good project and someone who does nothing but score on a team scoring it’s ass off focusing on ball movement and effort.

Who loses?

A lot of teams could do something like that but Miami is in the unusual position of not needing him to do anything to be decent. They could play him 20 minutes game and no back to backs like Embiid and probably get home court.

Sing where becoming all-star in three years with flag would be annoying, but the heat are a team that’s always about right now. Riley is too old to give a shit about 2032.

[tpols]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

Yea but this is basketball. Kidd was anything but malignant on the court.

[FultzNationRISE]

If they shoot for another big I’d imagine it would be a young one on a team that’s anti tank. Like Miami. You ask for this kid



https://youtu.be/rJOqpdMbaAw?si=9H7smbgM5LlVvBWz


Him plus Herro and one of their nobodies gets you about 44 of 54 million. You figure out the rest with third teams or whatever you gotta do.

Heat score 125 a game this year without Herro playing a second yet. He expires next year so Dallas has no long term issues.

Heat basically add a superstar when healthy with Bam there so they don’t actually NEED him to be healthy…and give up a really good project and someone who does nothing but score on a team scoring it’s ass off focusing on ball movement and effort.

Who loses?

Yeah but I just dont know how keen teams are to try these 2 Center (which Davis is) experiments midseason.

Not saying they cant work but I think theyre ideal with a full season's runway. And AD aint gettin any younger. If youre gonna trade for him it's probably to contend this year, not to wait til his body's another year older.

I just dont know that Miami is incentivized to give up Ware for Davis. Theres too many unknowns. Pairing Bam and AD midseason AND hoping Davis stays healthy is not a slam dunk by any means IMO. Unless Riles knows has plans to retire in the next two years and wants to take one last wild swing beforehand. But I think it's got a dubious chance of success.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah but I just dont know how keen teams are to try these 2 Center (which Davis is) experiments midseason.

Not saying they cant work but I think theyre ideal with a full season's runway. And AD aint gettin any younger. If youre gonna trade for him it's probably to contend this year, not to wait til his body's another year older.

I just dont know that Miami is incentivized to give up Ware for Davis. Theres too many unknowns. Pairing Bam and AD midseason AND hoping Davis stays healthy is not a slam dunk by any means IMO. Unless Riles knows has plans to retire in the next two years and wants to take one last wild swing beforehand. But I think it's got a dubious chance of success.

The center who insists he is a 4. Thats another issue.

[FultzNationRISE]

Honestly, the Mavs need to just do the responsible thing and buy Davis out, so that he may sign with the Lakers.


Lebron does NOT need the help, but it would be noble to allow Davis to return to his Father Figure and the place he calls home.

[Kblaze8855]

Yeah but I just dont know how keen teams are to try these 2 Center (which Davis is) experiments midseason.

Not saying they cant work but I think theyre ideal with a full season's runway. And AD aint gettin any younger. If youre gonna trade for him it's probably to contend this year, not to wait til his body's another year older.

I just dont know that Miami is incentivized to give up Ware for Davis. Theres too many unknowns. Pairing Bam and AD midseason AND hoping Davis stays healthy is not a slam dunk by any means IMO. Unless Riles knows has plans to retire in the next two years and wants to take one last wild swing beforehand. But I think it's got a dubious chance of success.

If two bigs is a concern they wouldn’t value ware to begin with unless they view bam as a trade piece. But they could have landed multiple superstars by now if they dick intend to keep him.

I think the feasibility comes down to if they think they can land Giannis now that Luka is off the table

[Xiao Yao You]

If two bigs is a concern they wouldn’t value water to begin with unless they view bam as a trade piece. But they could have landed multiple superstars by now if they dick intend to keep him.

I think the feasibility comes down to if they think they can land Giannis now that Luka is off the table

Luka doesnt really fit the heat culture

[FultzNationRISE]

If two bigs is a concern they wouldn’t value ware to begin with unless they view bam as a trade piece. But they could have landed multiple superstars by now if they dick intend to keep him.

I think the feasibility comes down to if they think they can land Giannis now that Luka is off the table


It's different when you can add a guy with a mid first round pick making rookie deal money versus giving up two young pieces (Herro was just an allstar last year) to take back a guy making 54 million a year. Youre really investing a ton in something that has long odds of working right away. If he doesnt click with Bam theyre just fooked. I would be interested to see it as a viewer but I dont think it's a gamble I would take for that team right now.

I think the two-center stuff is interesting and has potential around the league, but that's when one of the centers is a low risk acquisition. Steven Adams, Mitchell Robinson, Jonas Valanciunus. Luke Kornet. You trade a second rounder for them and/or sign them for role player money, then see how they fit with your star center. Trading Herro and Ware for Davis when you already have Bam is just too radical. And Davis makes 54 million a year, bringing him in to play only 20 minutes a night... I dont think the Heat are goin for that. Theres just no way.

[Xiao Yao You]

Dallas Mavericks minority owner Mark Cuban told The Athletic the franchise would not try to trade Anthony Davis this season. “We won’t. We want to try to win,” Cuban said Wednesday in an email when asked if he and Mavericks governor Patrick Dumont would seek a deal for Davis, the oft-injured, 10-time All-Star who was the centerpiece for Dallas in last season’s Luka Dončić trade.

New York Times

Good luck mark :lol

[kawhileonard2]

To Houston makes sense or GS or Chicago or NYK

[Xiao Yao You]

To Houston makes sense or GS or Chicago or NYK

Ny or chicago maybe because they have centers that stretch the floor which davis doesnt and he has to play the 4!

[John8204]

The only options are Zion, Trae, or Ja...and really which team is going to take the AD problem

[bdonovan]

I'd love to see AD go to the Warriors but I'm not sure we have anyone they want. I'd offer Kuminga (potential future all-star), two of our guards (from: Moody, Podziemski, Payton, Hield), and future draft picks. If the Mavs are building for the future, those young guys might be valuable.

[ImKobe]

Lol. Never took you for a mornin drinker.

Two core pieces of Denver's future on value contracts just entering their prime for a guy who never plays?

I think youre way overestimating this dudes trade value.

The guy never plays. I dont see teams giving up real things for him. And yes, some insane team probably will, but I dont see it being the Nuggets. Theyre too measured. It would have to come from an overzealous owner, like Mat Ishbia or Steve Ballmer. Owners who believe they can "will" bad questionable decisions to work out.

Is he? Lakers got Luka for him, Christie and a 1st, so I'd say his value is pretty damn high, even with the injuries. He's an incredible performer in the Playoffs.

He has nagging injuries sure, but you can load manage him for around 50-60 games a year and get an elite performance out of him come Playoff time against the best teams in the league. He doesn't have a bad knee or a bad back, he has small injuries like pulling his groin or calf, he definitely needs to drop a few pounds but he's still a top 5-10 player in the league when healthy and there's only so many guys who can play at that level. He doesn't make sense for Denver but there will be a number of teams that will offer a lot for him.

[SouBeachTalents]

Is he? Lakers got Luka for him, Christie and a 1st, so I'd say his value is pretty damn high, even with the injuries.
In a move nobody criticized either, the consensus was the Mavs got good value back on that trade. It moved Nico into the convo of best GM's in the league, a title I'm sure he'll hold for quite some time.

[Axe]

Is it true that ayton now has around the same or more minutes played with the lakers since this season started than what davis has with the mavs since getting traded there earlier this year?


petty and stupid
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=827668&dateline=1624237688&type=thumb (https://i.ibb.co/LJtPyW7/IMG-20221213-081813.jpg)

[Xiao Yao You]

I'd love to see AD go to the Warriors but I'm not sure we have anyone they want. I'd offer Kuminga (potential future all-star), two of our guards (from: Moody, Podziemski, Payton, Hield), and future draft picks. If the Mavs are building for the future, those young guys might be valuable.

Who plays center? Davis is a 4 as far as he is concerned. Who is the big stretching the floor next to him since he doesnt? Dont see the fit other than another old guy that cant stay on the floor

[jayfan]

Detroit has plenty of space. A healthy AD (big if, as always) teamed with Cade, and with the way that team plays, & how they've been playing, would be a scary prospect for the rest of the league.

[Xiao Yao You]

Wouldnt mess up the pistons with crutch

[bdonovan]

Who plays center? Davis is a 4 as far as he is concerned. Who is the big stretching the floor next to him since he doesnt? Dont see the fit other than another old guy that cant stay on the floor

We have Post and Horford to give him a breather at the position.

[Xiao Yao You]

We have Post and Horford to give him a breather at the position.

What does draymond think of riding the bench?

[GOBB]

People still blaming Nico is funny. At what age did you realize Santa were actually your parents? High school?

[Kblaze8855]

It's different when you can add a guy with a mid first round pick making rookie deal money versus giving up two young pieces (Herro was just an allstar last year) to take back a guy making 54 million a year. Youre really investing a ton in something that has long odds of working right away. If he doesnt click with Bam theyre just fooked. I would be interested to see it as a viewer but I dont think it's a gamble I would take for that team right now.

I think the two-center stuff is interesting and has potential around the league, but that's when one of the centers is a low risk acquisition. Steven Adams, Mitchell Robinson, Jonas Valanciunus. Luke Kornet. You trade a second rounder for them and/or sign them for role player money, then see how they fit with your star center. Trading Herro and Ware for Davis when you already have Bam is just too radical. And Davis makes 54 million a year, bringing him in to play only 20 minutes a night... I dont think the Heat are goin for that. Theres just no way.


****ed as in what exactly? What does the heat being ****ed look like? Not having playoff success? They just went 37-45. They’re 9-6 now which is fine early but also one game from the 10th seed Celtics.

What are you saying they’re risking? Contender status?

Herro isn’t a loss at all. Even when they were good they were making finals runs without him. They’re scoring like the showtime lakers without him having played a minute this year. All he’s gonna do is score and play worse defense.

What do they really gain by him doing nothing but scoring on a team already scoring 124ppg by running an offense stars apparently hate but deep teams of role players love?

Herro would just be filler. Hes a free agent after next year and will definitely want a raise or at least another big deal to be….what?

When they tried to lean on him as the man he went out in the playoffs getting eliminated going 1-10 and losing by 55 points. It was the last game he played.

You think they view extending him under the new even bigger CBA as some kinda great option going forward?

Hes the type you either talk into taking less, use as contract filler tied to something with potential(aware), or maybe sign and trade soon if you don’t let him walk.

The Heat are star ****ers always after the next name. They just keep striking out.

If they don’t see Giannis as a real option what better moves are available without trying to “fix” one of the young knucklehead types always out there?

A project and filler for a proven champion type you don’t really need to rely on to be competitive?

There are worse options.

[Xiao Yao You]

Herro 25. He should get better.

[Yes or No]

People still being in denial about Nico are funny. Double-digit, room-temperature IQ.

[Wally450]

You are in complete denial about how petty and stupid Nico Harrison is. Oh well, you'll never change your mind.

This is the answer. Nothing about the league being rigged. Just blatant stupidity from Nico. No surprise he got fired.

[GOBB]

Franchise players especially one of Luka stature are not traded without approval from the higher up. *cough*owner*cough* The fact that people still leave out cookies for some white guy that’s overweight (fits the American male maybe most here can relate) breaking errr sneaking into their homes? Astounding. Welcome to ISH.

[Xiao Yao You]

If iwas the heat and probably most teams id rather have sabonis than davis. Davis is a better athlete and defender. Sabonis better at everything else. Bam might be a good enough defender to make it work. Sabonis will play 4 or 5 without complaint. Will play at the rim or the perimeter. Make the offense even more dynamic.

[Xiao Yao You]

He makes some sense there depending on what they have to give up for Crutch. 3 point shooting center. Get rid of patrick williams ideally in deal

The Bulls could go in a few directions over the next several months, including adding to the current roster. That has led some sources to speculate whether Chicago, with over $80 million in expiring money, could be a suitor for Dallas' Anthony Davis and bring the Windy City native home. ‘I could see it,’ a West executive, who recently saw Chicago play, said. ‘[Josh] Giddey has worked well with Vucevic, but he could use a roll man to throw it up to.

ESPN

[Yes or No]

Franchise players especially one of Luka stature are not traded without approval from the higher up. *cough*owner*cough* The fact that people still leave out cookies for some white guy that’s overweight (fits the American male maybe most here can relate) breaking errr sneaking into their homes? Astounding. Welcome to ISH.

Nobody ever said he was traded without approval from the owner. Stop speaking so confidently about a situation that you clearly haven't looked into much, not that I should expect anything else from you except utterly confident ignorance.

So you understand, even though you will still refuse to believe what factually happened because your stupidity and overconfidence is set in stone, here's the exact order of how it went down.

1) Cuban hires idiotic ego maniac with the stupid idea that it was for player relations primarily and Cuban would still run basketball
2) Cuban sells team to someone who knows 0 about basketball under the condition Cuban would still run basketball
3) Idiotic ego maniac gets in the ignorant owner's ear and pushes Cuban out
4) Idiotic ego maniac trades Luka and rushes it through without opening up bidding because ignorant owner would see the fan and journalistic backlash and know how stupid it was
5) People on the internet that believe everything is a lie and a conspiracy think Nico was just a fall guy

Nico Harrison is an overly confident below average IQ idiot who failed upwards by sheer dumb luck. You are him minus the failing upwards part.

There is article after article out there explaining the situation, explaining that Nico Harrison was a failure at Nike also that botched the Steph Curry meeting all those years ago, and that he surrounded himself with yes men in Dallas and fired anyone who opposed every impulsive thought he had. But instead of reading those articles, here you are, thinking you know, spreading your ignorant bullshit.

[tontoz]

If trading Luka was the owner's idea then why didnt they open the bidding to other teams to get the best deal? Looks to me like Nico had a thing for AD.

I havent seen anything from this owner that would lead me to believe that he knows much about basketball. I seriously doubt that the owner had any type of fascination with AD.

[Xiao Yao You]

If trading Luka was the owner's idea then why didnt they open the bidding to other teams to get the best deal? Looks to me like Nico had a thing for AD.

I havent seen anything from this owner that would lead me to believe that he knows much about basketball. I seriously doubt that the owner had any type of fascination with AD.

He wanted a two way player and didnt want to pay the fat ass. Which i get. Supposedly he asked about ant and giannis too which would have been nice. Trading for a guy you cant count on made bo sense.

[tontoz]

He wanted a two way player and didnt want to pay the fat ass. Which i get. Supposedly he asked about ant and giannis too which would have been nice. Trading for a guy you cant count on made bo sense.

Why couldn't they get Austin Reaves in the deal? The deal was so one sided that it looks to me like Nico had a thing for AD.

[Xiao Yao You]

Why couldn't they get Austin Reaves in the deal? The deal was so one sided that it looks to me like Nico had a thing for AD.

It isnt one sided if you get a two way superstar you can expect to be on the floor which was the problem with the deal. No reason to think davis would be that guy. Never has been outside the bubble

[Xiao Yao You]

Not sure he would have had interest in reaves if he was looking for two way players

[warriorfan]

Nobody ever said he was traded without approval from the owner. Stop speaking so confidently about a situation that you clearly haven't looked into much, not that I should expect anything else from you except utterly confident ignorance.

So you understand, even though you will still refuse to believe what factually happened because your stupidity and overconfidence is set in stone, here's the exact order of how it went down.

1) Cuban hires idiotic ego maniac with the stupid idea that it was for player relations primarily and Cuban would still run basketball
2) Cuban sells team to someone who knows 0 about basketball under the condition Cuban would still run basketball
3) Idiotic ego maniac gets in the ignorant owner's ear and pushes Cuban out
4) Idiotic ego maniac trades Luka and rushes it through without opening up bidding because ignorant owner would see the fan and journalistic backlash and know how stupid it was
5) People on the internet that believe everything is a lie and a conspiracy think Nico was just a fall guy

Nico Harrison is an overly confident below average IQ idiot who failed upwards by sheer dumb luck. You are him minus the failing upwards part.

There is article after article out there explaining the situation, explaining that Nico Harrison was a failure at Nike also that botched the Steph Curry meeting all those years ago, and that he surrounded himself with yes men in Dallas and fired anyone who opposed every impulsive thought he had. But instead of reading those articles, here you are, thinking you know, spreading your ignorant bullshit.

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Damn.

[beasted]

I know this sounds crazy to say but I wouldn't want Davis if I were trying to contend.

He refuses to want to play Center, yet came into the season wearing a fat suit and cannot hit 3s.

Sounds exactly like a Center to me.

[ImKobe]

I know this sounds crazy to say but I wouldn't want Davis if I were trying to contend.

He refuses to want to play Center, yet came into the season wearing a fat suit and cannot hit 3s.

Sounds exactly like a Center to me.

I think it's more about the defensive side of things. He's fine with playing the Center role on offense obviously but would prefer roaming around on D and not just protecting the paint and fighting bigs all game which I can understand. Issue is there isn't a prime Brook Lopez on his squad who would make sense next to him offensively, so now you're giving up a lot on the spacing side of things. Giannis is kind of in the same boat which is why the Bucks overpaid for Myles Turner to replace Brook Lopez.

[Xiao Yao You]

I think it's more about the defensive side of things. He's fine with playing the Center role on offense obviously but would prefer roaming around on D and not just protecting the paint and fighting bigs all game which I can understand. Issue is there isn't a prime Brook Lopez on his squad who would make sense next to him offensively, so now you're giving up a lot on the spacing side of things. Giannis is kind of in the same boat which is why the Bucks overpaid for Myles Turner to replace Brook Lopez.

The problem is a lot of the time there is only one big on the floor. There isnt a center and a pf. There are bigs wings and guards now. There isnt much banging down low. Spacing is an issue with him so he doesnt just fit anywhere offensively again assuming he can even stay on the floor

[beasted]

I think it's more about the defensive side of things. He's fine with playing the Center role on offense obviously but would prefer roaming around on D and not just protecting the paint and fighting bigs all game which I can understand. Issue is there isn't a prime Brook Lopez on his squad who would make sense next to him offensively, so now you're giving up a lot on the spacing side of things. Giannis is kind of in the same boat which is why the Bucks overpaid for Myles Turner to replace Brook Lopez.

Well, a superstar should have at least some basketball IQ about these things. As you said, it's not as if his current team has stretch bigs. Flagg, Washington, Gafford, Lively, Powell... none of these guys can hit a 3, Davis included. Given the circumstances, he ought to be the one asking the coach to play Center to get more spacing.

A max superstar in his feelings rather than trying to sacrifice to win is not a superstar I would want on my team.

Bosh did not like playing Center at all, but he did whatever was necessary. That should be the prevailing mindset.

[BarberSchool]

I don’t give a flying **** what insane team takes on a contract $11million more per year than Luka’s … for a guy that never plays more than a couple handfuls of games in a row before being out again for 6-8weeks.

Just as long as it isn’t a team I actually enjoy watching:

Bulls

Nuggets

Lakers

Rockets

Pistons

Heat

Spurs

Warriors

Orlando

Milwaukee

Minnesnowta

Serious question:

Is any owner seriously stupid enough to want Day-To-Davis at this point ?
He isn’t even Day-To-Davis anymore, **** days. N!cca sits for months, after playing for days.

[ImKobe]

Well, a superstar should have at least some basketball IQ about these things. As you said, it's not as if his current team has stretch bigs. Flagg, Washington, Gafford, Lively, Powell... none of these guys can hit a 3, Davis included. Given the circumstances, he ought to be the one asking the coach to play Center to get more spacing.

A max superstar in his feelings rather than trying to sacrifice to win is not a superstar I would want on my team.

Bosh did not like playing Center at all, but he did whatever was necessary. That should be the prevailing mindset.

I don't think he's in his feelings he just wants to prevent the injuries. He's been the 5 since the 2021-22 season. If Mavs 3 bigs are all healthy they can definitely run some of those 2 big lineups.

[GOBB]

Serious question:

Is any owner seriously stupid enough to want Day-To-Davis at this point ?
He isn’t even Day-To-Davis anymore, **** days. N!cca sits for months, after playing for days.

It’s not about you and what you think though. You need to just look at history. I don’t know why fans generally speaking have this idea no one wants a player becuase they are 1. Always hurt/day to day 2. Massive contract/gross. When the facts are none of that tends to matter as we’ve seen teams do 1 or 2 if not both. Anthony Davis had the same injury label when he was with the Pelicans. And yet was traded to the Lakers. Davis had the same injury labels you mentioned with the Pelicans and now the Lakers. And yet was traded to Dallas. And alas here we are questioning if an owner will take a chance on him via trade? Come on. There’s never been a place where given Davis injury history he was just a throw in when he was involved in a trade.

[ImKobe]

A lot of the stars miss 10-20 games a year and need to be load managed but their production in the Playoffs is still worth the hit in the RS. Luka himself has had nagging injuries every year but doesn't get the same label even though you look at his history he's constantly playing while injured in the Playoffs and misses about 15-20 RS games a year. AD played more games in the RS in '24 and '25 and he doesn't have serious knee or back problems so his value is still very high.

[Xiao Yao You]

A lot of the stars miss 10-20 games a year and need to be load managed but their production in the Playoffs is still worth the hit in the RS. Luka himself has had nagging injuries every year but doesn't get the same label even though you look at his history he's constantly playing while injured in the Playoffs and misses about 15-20 RS games a year. AD played more games in the RS in '24 and '25 and he doesn't have serious knee or back problems so his value is still very high.

Luka doesnt get that label? That was a big reason he got traded. He was hurt when he was traded. They thought he was hurt because he was a fat ass and didnt want to pay him

[Nowoco]

AD is probably the most toxic player in the NBA right now. I wouldn't go anywhere near him no matter what franchise I was the GM of.

$60m for 3 more years of a washed up, perma injured, getting heavy guy who's mentally decapitated? No thanks.

[ImKobe]

Luka doesnt get that label? That was a big reason he got traded. He was hurt when he was traded. They thought he was hurt because he was a fat ass and didnt want to pay him

Well people mostly overlook that part and just hyper-focus on AD's injuries is what I'm saying. His value is still high because almost all the top players miss a significant portion of the RS (12+ games) every year. They had to make a 65-game rule for the awards just so these dudes wouldn't sit out more games. AD's been available more times at the end of the season than Giannis for the past 5 years despite the injuries he's had. You can load manage AD and have him ready for the POs and he's top 5 in Playoffs history in PER and WS/48 right behind Lebron & Jokic, and is also 12th all-time in BPM in the POs, so yeah he's going to be sought after regardless of the street clothes shit.

[Xiao Yao You]

Well people mostly overlook that part and just hyper-focus on AD's injuries is what I'm saying. His value is still high because almost all the top players miss a significant portion of the RS (12+ games) every year. They had to make a 65-game rule for the awards just so these dudes wouldn't sit out more games. AD's been available more times at the end of the season than Giannis for the past 5 years despite the injuries he's had. You can load manage AD and have him ready for the POs and he's top 5 in Playoffs history in PER and WS/48 right behind Lebron & Jokic, and is also 12th all-time in BPM in the POs, so yeah he's going to be sought after regardless of the street clothes shit.

Luka will get the same label if he continues the trend. Davis probably didnt have the label this early in His career either

[ImKobe]

Luka will get the same label if he continues the trend. Davis probably didnt have the label this early in His career either

Nah he's always been that way apart from a couple seasons. His early career the games missed is basically the same as Luka's. They started clowning him for getting injured because he played with Lebron even though if you look at the '19-'25 seasons he missed 43 more games which over 6 seasons isn't really that big of a difference and it was last season that widened the gap so the 5 full seasons they played together he missed about 5 more games per year.

[Xiao Yao You]

Dont see him making much sense with duren

Kendrick Perkins: My sources are also telling me, the big fella, that Detroit has a lot of interest in old Anthony Davis. (…) You got to match the money. You get rid of Tobias Harris who's making a lot of money on the expiring contract, right? You'll be able to pull off maybe some young talent, but long as you keep Cade Cunningham and Jalen Duren and you bring AD over there to that Pistons squad…

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[BarberSchool]

It’s not about you and what you think though. You need to just look at history. I don’t know why fans generally speaking have this idea no one wants a player becuase they are 1. Always hurt/day to day 2. Massive contract/gross. When the facts are none of that tends to matter as we’ve seen teams do 1 or 2 if not both. Anthony Davis had the same injury label when he was with the Pelicans. And yet was traded to the Lakers. Davis had the same injury labels you mentioned with the Pelicans and now the Lakers. And yet was traded to Dallas. And alas here we are questioning if an owner will take a chance on him via trade? Come on. There’s never been a place where given Davis injury history he was just a throw in when he was involved in a trade.
Dog, in health, he is at least 4-5yrs older than his calendar age. Which just a few weeks after the trade deadline, will be a very fragile, rusty, rickety, overweight 33. The lakers deal happened in his 20’s, when he still had upside and the ability to heal lol. Now it’s all doubtlessly downhill, except in your imagination.

Day-To-Davis at 33,
IS 100% NOT LeBron at 33.

[GOBB]

Dog, in health, he is at least 4-5yrs older than his calendar age. Which just a few weeks after the trade deadline, will be a very fragile, rusty, rickety, overweight 33. The lakers deal happened in his 20’s, when he still had upside and the ability to heal lol. Now it’s all doubtlessly downhill, except in your imagination.

Day-To-Davis at 33,
IS 100% NOT LeBron at 33.

Ability to heal? What does that even mean? You’re just making up shyt now because you can’t handle the fact Anthony Davis has a history of injuries and missing games. You also can’t handle that some team see value in him knowing all of this plus his age/contract.

You dudes got to stop argue for the sake of it. Make you look bad.

[Im Still Ballin]

The ability to heal is the body's complex, multi-stage process for repairing damage, while aging slows this ability by impairing cell regeneration, reducing the efficiency of the immune system, slowing blood flow, and diminishing skin's structure. This results in slower wound recovery, increased vulnerability to infections, and a greater potential for complications, especially in older adults with chronic diseases like diabetes.

The healing process

The ability to heal is a multi-stage process that includes inflammation, proliferation (cell growth), and remodeling (tissue rebuilding).

The goal of healing is to restore damaged tissue to its functional state.

How aging affects healing

Cellular changes: Older cells regenerate more slowly, and the skin's ability to repair itself decreases.

Immune system: The immune system becomes less efficient, leading to a slower response to injury and a greater risk of infection.

Blood flow: Reduced blood flow, often due to age-related cardiovascular changes, can mean less oxygen and fewer healing factors reach the injury site.

Skin structure: The skin thins, becomes less elastic, and is more fragile, making it more susceptible to further injury.

Chronic diseases: Conditions like diabetes, which become more common with age, can significantly hinder healing.

Nutrition and lifestyle: Poor nutrition and a less active lifestyle, which are more common in older adults, can further slow the healing process.

[GOBB]

Before George “contract year” with the Clippers where he was healthy? He missed more games than Joel Embiid over a span of seasons. Embiid a center often injured mind you. Don’t believe me just fact check it. What’s your point GOBB? Nothing much that a guy was given the max over 30 years of age. Why would anyone do that given his health concerns? Mind bogging when we have study and research on aging & healing. Such a mystery. I can’t begin to understand.

[BarberSchool]

I can’t begin to understand.Based on what you type, this checks out lmmfao.

[Xiao Yao You]

Shocking

The Dallas Mavericks are reportedly facing a conundrum when it comes to potentially trading star big man Anthony Davis. During Monday's episode of The Hoop Collective, ESPN's Tim Bontemps explained that Davis' trade value isn't as high as many would expect for a player of his caliber. "The idea of trading Anthony Davis has everyone trained to think, well, they're gonna get three firsts, two swaps, they're gonna get two young players and they're gonna get all this stuff," Bontemps said around the 33:00 mark. "I shouldn't say it's not gonna happen... but, you talk to people in the league, there's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on a 35-year-old Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume that he's gonna opt into that deal."

Bleacher Report

[Nowoco]

"The idea of trading Anthony Davis has everyone trained to think, well, they're gonna get three firsts, two swaps, they're gonna get two young players and they're gonna get all this stuff,"

Who the hell anywhere thinks this?

[GOBB]

Who the hell anywhere thinks this?

He was traded for Luka. What do you mean who thinks that? Teams overvalue players like Anthony Davis.

[beasted]

Who the hell anywhere thinks this?

He's speaking in hyperbole, but there are idiot GMs who broke the trade market with the amount of first round picks they gave up.

Desmond Bane being worth 4 FRPs says that Davis has to be worth 4+ to some desperate fool out there.

[Nowoco]

He was traded for Luka. What do you mean who thinks that? Teams overvalue players like Anthony Davis.

Two things. That was one of the worst decisions in the history of sport as we know.

Secondly, it was nearly a year a go. A hell of a lot has changed since then, not least ADs stock being lowest it’s ever been. Not to mention the team who traded their generational talent for him wants him out inside 12 months. I don’t think Dallas want or expect much back. Just some mugs to take him and his salary off their books.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Davis coming back this season out of shape like he was was a nasty surprise. I kind of wonder if he wanted to stock or to Dallas for trading for him. Years back when he was engineering his trade to the Lakers he l let other teams know not to trade for him. Could this be hitting the perpetrator with repercussions?

[warriorfan]

Ability to heal? What does that even mean? You’re just making up shyt now because you can’t handle the fact Anthony Davis has a history of injuries and missing games. You also can’t handle that some team see value in him knowing all of this plus his age/contract.

You dudes got to stop argue for the sake of it. Make you look bad.

The older you are the longer it takes you to heal.

Lmao. How retarded can one guy be?


The ability to heal is the body's complex, multi-stage process for repairing damage, while aging slows this ability by impairing cell regeneration, reducing the efficiency of the immune system, slowing blood flow, and diminishing skin's structure. This results in slower wound recovery, increased vulnerability to infections, and a greater potential for complications, especially in older adults with chronic diseases like diabetes.

The healing process

The ability to heal is a multi-stage process that includes inflammation, proliferation (cell growth), and remodeling (tissue rebuilding).

The goal of healing is to restore damaged tissue to its functional state.

How aging affects healing

Cellular changes: Older cells regenerate more slowly, and the skin's ability to repair itself decreases.

Immune system: The immune system becomes less efficient, leading to a slower response to injury and a greater risk of infection.

Blood flow: Reduced blood flow, often due to age-related cardiovascular changes, can mean less oxygen and fewer healing factors reach the injury site.

Skin structure: The skin thins, becomes less elastic, and is more fragile, making it more susceptible to further injury.

Chronic diseases: Conditions like diabetes, which become more common with age, can significantly hinder healing.

Nutrition and lifestyle: Poor nutrition and a less active lifestyle, which are more common in older adults, can further slow the healing process.

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[Yes or No]

The older you are the longer it takes you to heal.

Lmao. How retarded can one guy be?



:roll:

It really is amazing how confident he is in the idiocy he spews eh? It's like we're living in totally different universes.

[GOBB]

I swear you dudes just argue for the sake of arguing. First you think nba teams think like you which is moronic. “I wouldn’t do that.”. Yea you’re a chit chatter on a messageboard. There’s literally evidence of nba franchises doing EXACTLY what you say they shouldn’t or wouldn’t. You sitting there posting about the older you get the longer it takes to heal has zero relevance in sports when it comes to signing and trading players. If and when Anthony Davis is traded from Dallas. I want to hear all you stooges responses to it. Repeat the long draw out injuries and aging nonsense for me.


Paul George was before his contract year missed MORE games than Joel Embiid in a 4yr stretch. Paul George at age 34 with his INJURY history and AGING was given 4yrs $212mil. He missed 1/2 season last year (first year into deal) an 13gms this season. But you d*ckheads want to be smartasses posting nonsense then jerking each other off like Beavis and buttheads. Weird. A team did what you WOULDNT have done. And you’re sitting here arguing no NBA team is going to take an older and injured Anthony Davis. Kill yourselves. Might boost the IQ of this board.

[warriorfan]

It really is amazing how confident he is in the idiocy he spews eh? It's like we're living in totally different universes.

He does have insanely low iq but I seriously think he’s suffering from some sort of brain damage or dementia. He aggressively gets into arguments about things no one even said in the first place then continues to ramble complete nonsense. Most of his posts are not even coherent. The ones that barely are he is completely wrong close to 100% of the time.

It’s weird.


I swear you dudes just argue for the sake of arguing. First you think nba teams think like you which is moronic. “I wouldn’t do that.”. Yea you’re a chit chatter on a messageboard. There’s literally evidence of nba franchises doing EXACTLY what you say they shouldn’t or wouldn’t. You sitting there posting about the older you get the longer it takes to heal has zero relevance in sports when it comes to signing and trading players. If and when Anthony Davis is traded from Dallas. I want to hear all you stooges responses to it. Repeat the long draw out injuries and aging nonsense for me.


Paul George was before his contract year missed MORE games than Joel Embiid in a 4yr stretch. Paul George at age 34 with his INJURY history and AGING was given 4yrs $212mil. He missed 1/2 season last year (first year into deal) an 13gms this season. But you d*ckheads want to be smartasses posting nonsense then jerking each other off like Beavis and buttheads. Weird. A team did what you WOULDNT have done. And you’re sitting here arguing no NBA team is going to take an older and injured Anthony Davis. Kill yourselves. Might boost the IQ of this board.

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