My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

[bdonovan]

We get Anthony Davis.

We give the Mavs:

Kuminga (future all-star)
Podziemski (starting Guard on GSW)
Moody (promising 3 and D player, 6th man)
2026 1st round draft pick
2028 1st round draft pick

Jonathan Kuminga can be an all-star, potentially even an MVP, on the right team. He is young, fitting in with the Mavs rebuilding project around Cooper Flagg.

Pods and Moody are also young too but enough experience to hit the ground running. Moody is a top 6th man in the league.

Kuminga's ceiling is MVP. He has incredible offensive moves; and can put up 30 points/game, if given minutes. He has been stifled on the Warriors because chemistry issues between him and Curry, him and Kerr. The minute that changes, and he's given free reign, he can do serious damage. You need a scorer while Cooper develops. He is strong on individual D in guarding and with the right coaching, will improve in terms of team D.


Would you take it?

[Xiao Yao You]

Dont see the fit with draymond. Might as well throw him in the deal

[warriorfan]

Pretty good trade for both sides. Warriors are already suicide mission all in on the last Curry years. May as well double down on it. Mavs get some assets for their rebuild with Flag

[beasted]

I think if you replaced the 2026 pick with the 2032 pick, and made both picks unprotected, that's a pretty fair trade.

The biggest hangup here is that the Mavericks are not in a position to tank. They owe first round picks or swaps in 2027, 2028, 2029, and 2030. And there are no protections any of those years except 2027 for top 2 overall.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kuminga All-Star, is possible but a longshot. MVP? I can't go there with you. If Dallas is down on Davis O foul of see the trade happening though after what they have up to get Davis off in a Mavs fan I would have a hard time settling for this package.

[BarberSchool]

Pretty good trade for both sides. Warriors are already suicide mission all in on the last Curry years. May as well double down on it. Mavs get some assets for their rebuild with Flag

Agreed.

But there are big potential problems:

I have a creeping suspicion that Kuminga might have a room temperature IQ, and will spend his entire NBA career, and post career retirement being a salty dumb bitch, feeling he was done wrong and cheated out of superstardom …. clinging to the delusional belief that someone whose percentage on midrange is among the worst in the league, even when he got the high usage he wanted so badly …. in the playoffs…. That he should be a superstar that takes 25 FGA + a game.

If Kuminga arrives in Dallas, mark my words, he will quietly assume he is vastly superior to Cooper, and should be the focal point of the offense. He will resent Cooper and the staff, for not recognizing it, and be the same delusional, pouty, stupid 3rd world bitchmade MF he is. And continue to play poor defense, despite being an elite athlete, and keep making inexcusable mistakes on both ends, due to stupidity and selfishness.

YMMV.

On the other side, GSW training staff is worlds better than the Mavs staff, post Casey-Smith firing. So maybe they can keep Davis on the court ? But even with that … is Curry, Butler, and Day-To-Davis enough to Beat the Nuggets, Thunder, or Lakers in a series ? IDK. Doubtful.

[Xiao Yao You]

Sabonis a better fit. Better shooter, better rebounder, better passer, more willing to screen and play tge 5, healthier, younger

[FultzNationRISE]

OP, you can have my answer now if youd like.


My offer is this:

Nothing.

Not even the fee for the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally.

[beasted]

Sabonis a better fit. Better shooter, better rebounder, better passer, more willing to screen and play tge 5, healthier, younger

Sabonis is actually low-key a bad defender, while Davis is one of the best a DPOY level player. Davis is also significantly better offensively.

Sabonis is a good return for Kuminga, but I wouldn't include the two firsts.

[FultzNationRISE]

Sabonis is actually low-key a bad defender, while Davis is one of the best a DPOY level player. Davis is also significantly better offensively.

Sabonis is a good return for Kuminga, but I wouldn't include the two firsts.


Low key!?

Im not sure there are many things higher key than Domas' defensive weakness.

[Xiao Yao You]

Sabonis is actually low-key a bad defender, while Davis is one of the best a DPOY level player. Davis is also significantly better offensively.

Sabonis is a good return for Kuminga, but I wouldn't include the two firsts.

Davis is a better defender. He is a more aggressive scorer and gets to the line more. Sabonis is more efficient, better playmaker, shooter and offensive rebounder. Wouldnt say better offensive player. Gs has plenty of scoring with curry and butler. Sabonis as 3rd option looks pretty good to me

[beasted]

Low key!?

Im not sure there are many things higher key than Domas' defensive weakness.

Some guys equate defensive rebounding to defense. I do not.

I agree he's very bad at basically everything except the defensive rebounding. He is not a shot blocker, not a guy who draws charges, does not have the foot speed to hedge and recover, always defends in a drop, and doesn't have the defensive IQ to create a lot of deflections like Jokic does.

Sabonis is incredibly difficult to build around and will likely age like milk.

[beasted]

Davis is a better defender. He is a more aggressive scorer and gets to the line more. Sabonis is more efficient, better playmaker, shooter and offensive rebounder. Wouldnt say better offensive player. Gs has plenty of scoring with curry and butler. Sabonis as 3rd option looks pretty good to me

I think you're still underselling the valley between their defense.

[Xiao Yao You]

I think you're still underselling the valley between their defense.

And you are underselling which fits better with draymond and butler and which one you can expect to actually be on the floor to play d.

[beasted]

And you are underselling which fits better with draymond and butler and which one you can expect to actually be on the floor to play d.

How does Sabonis fit better? Butler plays in the mid post and Draymond is the one conducting the dribble handoffs. Sabonis is totally redundant with both of them offensively. Defensively he adds nothing.

Davis adds at least something of a lob threat. Also, Sabonis' best ever FTA per game in the playoffs were 4.0, Davis' worst ever FT average was 5.2 a night with the best being 9 FT attempts. You cant compare their ability to draw fouls.

Let's not pretend that if Davis was traded straight up for Sabonis that everyone would call it a fleecing. They are players on different tiers. Let's keep the downsides of Davis strictly as injury concerns. Let's not start making up fairytales about Sabonis being better in any meaningful way.

[beasted]

Some more numbers:
Sabonis career best rebounding average in the playoffs, 11.0 vs Davis 15.6.
Sabonis scoring peak 16.4 vs Davis 31.5.
Sabonis career high FG% 58% as a role player vs Davis 63% as option 1A/B.

All this also not taking into account Sabonis has never been out of the first round.

[Xiao Yao You]

How does Sabonis fit better? Butler plays in the mid post and Draymond is the one conducting the dribble handoffs. Sabonis is totally redundant with both of them offensively. Defensively he adds nothing.

Davis adds at least something of a lob threat. Also, Sabonis' best ever FTA per game in the playoffs were 4.0, Davis' worst ever FT average was 5.2 a night with the best being 9 FT attempts. You cant compare their ability to draw fouls.

Let's not pretend that if Davis was traded straight up for Sabonis that everyone would call it a fleecing. They are players on different tiers. Let's keep the downsides of Davis strictly as injury concerns. Let's not start making up fairytales about Sabonis being better in any meaningful way.

They need more players stretching the floor not less. Davis gets to the line more and shoots them better which is great in a big. He looks to score more. Sabonis is better at everything else offensively. And he will likely be on the floor unlike crutch. If you want a lob threat there are better options. Defensively they have have green, butler, payton, horford. Can he play team d with those guys around him?

Who cares who you think is better straight up. It is a team sport. I dont think davis is a great fit on that team other than he is another old guy that will miss a lot of games. There are teams where davis might fit better like chicago or ny. I could care less. Shit show in gs is fine by me.

[Xiao Yao You]

Some more numbers:
Sabonis career best rebounding average in the playoffs, 11.0 vs Davis 15.6.
Sabonis scoring peak 16.4 vs Davis 31.5.
Sabonis career high FG% 58% as a role player vs Davis 63% as option 1A/B.

All this also not taking into account Sabonis has never been out of the first round.

Sabonis is an all star not a role player. How has davis done outside the bubble and without lebron? Again team sport. Fg% includes 3s which sabonis takes more of. Already said davis scores more. They have curry and butler. I dont imagine scoring will be a problem with him as the 3rd option. Davis or someone might not be happy if they arent getting enough touches or god forbid they have to play the 5!

[Norcaliblunt]

Bruh I’m a half way warriors fan who has lived in LA.

We don’t want Davis!!!!!!!

WTF you thinking?

You over thinking.

[beasted]

Sabonis is an all star not a role player. How has davis done outside the bubble and without lebron? Again team sport. Fg% includes 3s which sabonis takes more of. Already said davis scores more. They have curry and butler. I dont imagine scoring will be a problem with him as the 3rd option. Davis or someone might not be happy if they arent getting enough touches or god forbid they have to play the 5!

I was saying that when Sabonis averaged 58% FG in the playoffs it was as a bench player. As a star his best was 50% far below Davis both with or without Lebron.

Davis as the number one option at least led his team to the 2nd round.

Anyway to sum up this whole disagreement, GS should trade for Davis if they are looking for a true #2/1b option that can also be the most impactful player on both sides of the court for any given playoff game, the huge risk is injury.

GS should trade for Sabonis knowing you will only be getting a 3rd option, 2nd option at his very best, and it's highly unlikely he will be even the best offensive player on his own team for any playoff game sharing the court with Curry and Butler, and he will hurt their defense if Draymond and Butler are in foul trouble, but he's typically been a much more durable player.

[Norcaliblunt]

Davis isn’t leading anyone anywhere anymore.

Let that sink in.

Dude is through.

He’s been paid and basketball ain’t shit.

The OP is an idiot if he can’t see this.

[Xiao Yao You]

I was saying that when Sabonis averaged 58% FG in the playoffs it was as a bench player. As a star his best was 50% far below Davis both with or without Lebron.

Davis as the number one option at least led his team to the 2nd round.

Anyway to sum up this whole disagreement, GS should trade for Davis if they are looking for a true #2/1b option that can also be the most impactful player on both sides of the court for any given playoff game, the huge risk is injury.

GS should trade for Sabonis knowing you will only be getting a 3rd option, 2nd option at his very best, and it's highly unlikely he will be even the best offensive player on his own team for any playoff game sharing the court with Curry and Butler, and he will hurt their defense if Draymond and Butler are in foul trouble, but he's typically been a much more durable player.

Curry and butler should be good enough as the 1 and 2 options. Obviously butler misses a lot of games as well and might not be happy if he isnt getting the ball enough

[beasted]

Curry and butler should be good enough as the 1 and 2 options. Obviously butler misses a lot of games as well and might not be happy if he isnt getting the ball enough

Good enough to lead them to the 8th spot. Butler has been a mediocre sidekick after the new car smell wore off.

His numbers look good on paper, but his impact on the team has not been what it was last year. He's also a shell of himself defensively.

[Xiao Yao You]

Good enough to lead them to the 8th spot. Butler has been a mediocre sidekick after the new car smell wore off.

His numbers look good on paper, but his impact on the team has not been what it was last year. He's also a shell of himself defensively.

Than davis injured in the sidelines doesnt help them anyway

[ImKobe]

Sabonis a better fit. Better shooter, better rebounder, better passer, more willing to screen and play tge 5, healthier, younger

Horrible defender and while he's better from mid-range & 3 on percentages he doesn't shoot at an enough volume. His mid-range volume is really low compared to AD so even if his % is better he doesnt take many. He takes 2 threes a game and that's significantly more in volume than his mid-range. Rebounding really isn't a big difference.

He's just a better passer but for GS that wouldn't matter much you're not running the offense through him with the way Warriors move the ball, Dray already got that role anyway. AD makes more sense with what the Warriors need. Sabonis also tore his meniscus so that could be an issue moving forward.

[Xiao Yao You]

Horrible defender and while he's better from mid-range & 3 on percentages he doesn't shoot at an enough volume. His mid-range volume is really low compared to AD so even if his % is better he doesnt take many. He takes 2 threes a game and that's significantly more in volume than his mid-range. Rebounding really isn't a big difference.

He's just a better passer but for GS that wouldn't matter much you're not running the offense through him with the way Warriors move the ball, Dray already got that role anyway. AD makes more sense with what the Warriors need. Sabonis also tore his meniscus so that could be an issue moving forward.

Sure make it easier for opposing defenses if they can pack the paint

[iamgine]

We get Anthony Davis.

We give the Mavs:

Kuminga (future all-star)
Podziemski (starting Guard on GSW)
Moody (promising 3 and D player, 6th man)
2026 1st round draft pick
2028 1st round draft pick

Jonathan Kuminga can be an all-star, potentially even an MVP, on the right team. He is young, fitting in with the Mavs rebuilding project around Cooper Flagg.

Pods and Moody are also young too but enough experience to hit the ground running. Moody is a top 6th man in the league.

Kuminga's ceiling is MVP. He has incredible offensive moves; and can put up 30 points/game, if given minutes. He has been stifled on the Warriors because chemistry issues between him and Curry, him and Kerr. The minute that changes, and he's given free reign, he can do serious damage. You need a scorer while Cooper develops. He is strong on individual D in guarding and with the right coaching, will improve in terms of team D.


Would you take it?
Kuminga is not even a good player. He's Jordan Poole level of trainwreck.

Pod and Moody is ok. Both barely starting level player.

So Mavs should not take it. It's not bad enough. Maybe AD for Beal?

[Xiao Yao You]

Kuminga is not even a good player. He's Jordan Poole level of trainwreck.

Pod and Moody is ok. Both barely starting level player.

So Mavs should not take it. It's not bad enough. Maybe AD for Beal?

Sure just add another 40 million in contracts to match

[GOBB]

Funny to see two idiots in the other thread acting like “day to day” Davis has no trade value. But saying this is a fair value. Guess his aging and health matters none.

[ImKobe]

Sure make it easier for opposing defenses if they can pack the paint

Warriors always had bigs who couldn't shoot but provided defense & rebounding and screened for their shooters. They move the ball a lot. Sabonis is not even a 3PT shooter that you'd be worried about because he's not a volume shooter nor a good one.

[Xiao Yao You]

Warriors always had bigs who couldn't shoot but provided defense & rebounding and screened for their shooters. They move the ball a lot. Sabonis is not even a 3PT shooter that you'd be worried about because he's not a volume shooter nor a good one.

They also screen and pass a lot. Sabonis is elite at those things. Je will als willingly play the 5 and show up to play with no conplaints.

[beasted]

They also screen and pass a lot. Sabonis is elite at those things. Je will als willingly play the 5 and show up to play with no conplaints.

You're calling out bare minimum stuff for a guy who has been a career mediocre needle mover yet will make $45M on average over this current contract, and regularly ends his season in the lottery or first round KO.

[Xiao Yao You]

You're calling out bare minimum stuff for a guy who has been a career mediocre needle mover yet will make $45M on average over this current contract, and regularly ends his season in the lottery or first round KO.

Vs an old guy on a similar contract who doesnt want to play the position he should play, cant spread the floor, and cant ne counted on to even play.

[beasted]

Vs an old guy on a similar contract who doesnt want to play the position he should play, cant spread the floor, and cant ne counted on to even play.

Davis' shortcomings related to injuries are WELL KNOWN and accepted by every single NBA fan on planet Earth. Meanwhile you're completely oblivious to just how mediocre Sabonis is and have not accepted a single criticism. You dismissed them all.

[Xiao Yao You]

Davis' shortcomings related to injuries are WELL KNOWN and accepted by every single NBA fan on planet Earth. Meanwhile you're completely oblivious to just how mediocre Sabonis is and have not accepted a single criticism. You dismissed them all.

Yes i dismiss sabonis as a mere role player. Kind of ridiculous

[warriorfan]

Funny to see two idiots in the other thread acting like “day to day” Davis has no trade value. But saying this is a fair value. Guess his aging and health matters none.

The theoretical package proposed by the Warriors is low key garbage lol

[ImKobe]

Vs an old guy on a similar contract who doesnt want to play the position he should play, cant spread the floor, and cant ne counted on to even play.

Yet he's played his position this whole time, and AD and Dray make a lot of sense on defense, and Steph/AD P&R would go hard too. Sabonis is spreading the floor with his 1-2 3PT attempts per game and his 1 attempt from mid-range? You understand he takes like 2-4 shots outside of 10 ft per game, right? AD actually shoots way more jump shots.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yet he's played his position this whole time, and AD and Dray make a lot of sense on defense, and Steph/AD P&R would go hard too. Sabonis is spreading the floor with his 1-2 3PT attempts per game and his 1 attempt from mid-range? You understand he takes like 2-4 shots outside of 10 ft per game, right? AD actually shoots way more jump shots.

The difference is the other team will let davis take jump shots. You have to defend sabonis since unlike davis he can make them

[ImKobe]

The difference is the other team will let davis take jump shots. You have to defend sabonis since unlike davis he can make them

Around 10% of his shots come from mid-range (from beyond 10 ft to the 3PT line) and he takes like 12-14 shots a game.. When he shoots he's wide open or there's no time on the clock. AD takes contested jumpers all the time (25-30% of his shots and he takes like 17-18 FGA) and he's ok at them, not as consistent as he was in his prime but he won a damn championship going nuclear from middy and he has streaks where he's making them all the time so people respect his shot way more. You could live with leaving Sabonis open because he's not a volume jump shooter, you wouldn't give AD space to shoot open jump shots all game. Another thing is that the Warriors aren't great at getting to the FT line and neither is Sabonis really, AD puts more pressure on the opposing defense at the rim and draws a lot of fouls.

Sabonis had the 1 season (last year) of going over 40% from 3 on just a little over 2 attempts a game. That's him at his career-best. Outside of that he's made less than half a three per game on average on a mediocre 3PT%, so teams wouldn't even be worried about his shot like that if it came down to a Playoff series, he's also never shot well in the Playoffs and doesn't even have much Playoff experience to speak of. The only time the Kings made the Playoffs with him he took 5 threes in 7 games and made one (2023). I don't know what spacing you're talking about tbh.

[Xiao Yao You]

Around 10% of his shots come from mid-range (from beyond 10 ft to the 3PT line) and he takes like 12-14 shots a game.. When he shoots he's wide open or there's no time on the clock. AD takes contested jumpers all the time (25-30% of his shots and he takes like 17-18 FGA) and he's ok at them, not as consistent as he was in his prime but he won a damn championship going nuclear from middy and he has streaks where he's making them all the time so people respect his shot way more. You could live with leaving Sabonis open because he's not a volume jump shooter, you wouldn't give AD space to shoot open jump shots all game. Another thing is that the Warriors aren't great at getting to the FT line and neither is Sabonis really, AD puts more pressure on the opposing defense at the rim and draws a lot of fouls.

Sabonis had the 1 season (last year) of going over 40% from 3 on just a little over 2 attempts a game. That's him at his career-best. Outside of that he's made less than half a three per game on average on a mediocre 3PT%, so teams wouldn't even be worried about his shot like that if it came down to a Playoff series, he's also never shot well in the Playoffs and doesn't even have much Playoff experience to speak of. The only time the Kings made the Playoffs with him he took 5 threes in 7 games and made one (2023). I don't know what spacing you're talking about tbh.

The bubble! :roll:

You are assuming that sabonis as a top option is the same as sabonis as the 3rd option. He will be open and he can hit them . Not sure how anyone thinks having only 1 or 2 3 pt shooters on the floor in 2025 is a good idea. And again that is assuming davis is even on the floor which is highly questionable.

[Xiao Yao You]

The line for davis just got shorter.

There is an expectation in some corners, you see, that Anthony Davis and his representation at Klutch Sports will seek a contract extension from a new team if he indeed gets dealt.

marcstein.substack.com

[Xiao Yao You]

Sources say Golden State did discuss the pursuit of Domantas Sabonis before the 2022 trade deadline that featured Indiana shipping the Lithuanian lefty to Sacramento for a package headlined by Tyrese Haliburton. The Pacers were known at the time to be big fans of Jonathan Kuminga, leading to various discussions between the two front offices that featured current Warriors swingman Buddy Hield, former Warriors swingman Andrew Wiggins and Sabonis in various frameworks.

marcstein.substack.com

[imdaman99]

KAT for AD, who says no?

[bdonovan]

Responding to a few points made.

For those saying the deal isn't enough, keep in mind we're not talking about prime AD. He missed most of the last 2 years with injuries. 3 years ago, he played only 51 games. So we are talking about a busted up AD. Granted he's a difference maker when healthy.

For those saying I played up Kuminga, well yes- I pitched him how I thought the Warriors should- in terms of his potential. I didn't say he Would be MVP- but that he could conceivably. More likely a top offensive player. As for those pointing out his IQ and team play liabilities- yes those are issues. Sometimes a promising player just needs a new environment and coaches to reach their potential.

The Warriors do need a big man. They're getting throttled on the boards, they don't have the defensive presence, they need someone to set the screens freeing up their shooters like they used to. Davis has the width and strength for those kinds of screens.

Kerr's preference of small ball isn't serving them well against the big physical teams. And Horford isn't quite it.

Some good comments about substitutions, unprotected, Kuminga challenging Cooper for leadership, etc.

[ImKobe]

The bubble! :roll:

You are assuming that sabonis as a top option is the same as sabonis as the 3rd option. He will be open and he can hit them . Not sure how anyone thinks having only 1 or 2 3 pt shooters on the floor in 2025 is a good idea. And again that is assuming davis is even on the floor which is highly questionable.

Sabonis is not a 3PT Shooter lol. That's what I'm saying. You think because someone who takes 1 three per game on average and shoots maybe 35-40% on them can take 5 of those and still hit them at the same rate, that's not really how it works. With AD you have to respect his shot because he actually will take the open middy or even the open 3 while Sabonis would pass out of it. AD isn't a good 3PT shooter but when he did shoot them quite a bit from the corner in 2020-23 in both the RS & Playoffs he'd hit them at an above 40% rate (when at least 25% of his 3PA were from corners in the POs, and 16-17% in the RS which was a huge increase from NO to LA) so there's something. Volume is low but apparently to you it doesn't matter anyway.

I'll take the guy who had Playoff runs of lighting it up from mid-range & 3 vs. someone who doesn't have much Playoff experience who has never shot jump shots at a decent volume in his life and who can't really defend that well, so why would you add another passive scorer who doesn't shoot much next to Draymond? That makes even less sense dude.

[Xiao Yao You]

Sabonis is not a 3PT Shooter lol. That's what I'm saying. You think because someone who takes 1 three per game on average and shoots maybe 35-40% on them can take 5 of those and still hit them at the same rate, that's not really how it works. With AD you have to respect his shot because he actually will take the open middy or even the open 3 while Sabonis would pass out of it. AD isn't a good 3PT shooter but when he did shoot them quite a bit from the corner in 2020-23 in both the RS & Playoffs he'd hit them at an above 40% rate (when at least 25% of his 3PA were from corners in the POs, and 16-17% in the RS which was a huge increase from NO to LA) so there's something. Volume is low but apparently to you it doesn't matter anyway.

I'll take the guy who had Playoff runs of lighting it up from mid-range & 3 vs. someone who doesn't have much Playoff experience who has never shot jump shots at a decent volume in his life and who can't really defend that well, so why would you add another passive scorer who doesn't shoot much next to Draymond? That makes even less sense dude.

You are assuming he would play the same role. He isnt open on the kings. He is the main man. He would be open with butler and curry on the floor. If he is open he will shoot. Unlike davis he can hit perimeter shots, play center, get out of his street clothes, be happy with a role as 3rd option...

[beasted]

You are assuming he would play the same role. He isnt open on the kings. He is the main man. He would be open with butler and curry on the floor. If he is open he will shoot. Unlike davis he can hit perimeter shots, play center, get out of his street clothes, be happy with a role as 3rd option...

Sabonis is absolutely not the main man on the Kings. He's 3rd in usage and gets assisted on 73% of his shots. He's not creating shit.

Also on wide open shots (closest defender 6+ feet away), Sabonis is shooting 16.7% from 3PT. Keep in mind he only attempts 1.8 3PT FGAs per game, and 1.6 of them fall into this "wide open" category.
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shots-closest-defender-10?TeamID=1610612758&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B+Feet+-+Wide+Open

Why don't you just admit you have no freaking clue what you're talking about?

[Xiao Yao You]

Sabonis is absolutely not the main man on the Kings. He's 3rd in usage and gets assisted on 73% of his shots. He's not creating shit.

Also on wide open shots (closest defender 6+ feet away), Sabonis is shooting 16.7% from 3PT. Keep in mind he only attempts 1.8 3PT FGAs per game, and 1.6 of them fall into this "wide open" category.
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shots-closest-defender-10?TeamID=1610612758&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B+Feet+-+Wide+Open

Why don't you just admit you have no freaking clue what you're talking about?

Im not the one that apparently has never seen the warriors play. They screen. They pass. They move without the ball. They take good shots. Sabonis fits perfectly. Davis otoh is another guy fighting butler for the ball and the mid range. Is it 1980 again?

[beasted]

Im not the one that apparently has never seen the warriors play. They screen. They pass. They move without the ball. They take good shots. Sabonis fits perfectly. Davis otoh is another guy fighting butler for the ball and the mid range. Is it 1980 again?

You were proven completely wrong about Sabonis' shooting, and you're still yapping?

The thing is I'm not even a fan of Davis. I could really care less. Sabonis is just very clearly not that great to everyone except you. Regardless of our disagreement on what you think of him overall, you're very clearly wrong about his 3PT shooting.

[Xiao Yao You]

You were proven completely wrong about Sabonis' shooting, and you're still yapping?

The thing is I'm not even a fan of Davis. I could really care less. Sabonis is just very clearly not that great to everyone except you. Regardless of our disagreement on what you think of him overall, you're very clearly wrong about his 3PT shooting.

Who has mentioned greatness? Sabonis fits. Davis not so much. Common sense not your strong suit i take it?

[beasted]

Who has mentioned greatness? Sabonis fits. Davis not so much. Common sense not your strong suit i take it?

Trying to ragebait doesn't change how completely wrong I've proven you to be.

[Xiao Yao You]

Trying to ragebait doesn't change how completely wrong I've proven you to be.

Proof that davis is a vetter fit than sabonis? How?

[ImKobe]

Proof that davis is a vetter fit than sabonis? How?

He plays great defense, something that the Warriors are severely lacking right now? You can switch AD onto anyone. AD-Green-Butler is a nasty combo on defense.

[Xiao Yao You]

The Bulls have had internal discussions about how to proceed, including conversations about Dallas Mavericks star Anthony Davis, sources told ESPN, whom they believe could help the team's porous rim protection and defensive interior.

ESPN

Makes sense there

[Jasper]

Pretty good trade for both sides. Warriors are already suicide mission all in on the last Curry years. May as well double down on it. Mavs get some assets for their rebuild with Flag

potential Giannis Sweep stakes

[Xiao Yao You]

Give him an extension :roll:

Brian Windhorst: I don't know what the value of Anthony Davis. Some of the stuff that I have heard from executives talking to me about what they think Anthony Davis' trade value is… I'm not even going to say it because then I'd get aggregated and people would be jumping down my throat and I would just be repeating something somebody else said. When I have heard what people are saying Anthony Davis' trade value is right now, not because of him as a player, to be clear, not because he's diminished as a player, but because of the idea of paying an injury-prone mid-30s guy $50, $60 million dollars in the apron era is unpalatable.

[ImKobe]

Give him an extension :roll:

Brian Windhorst: I don't know what the value of Anthony Davis. Some of the stuff that I have heard from executives talking to me about what they think Anthony Davis' trade value is… I'm not even going to say it because then I'd get aggregated and people would be jumping down my throat and I would just be repeating something somebody else said. When I have heard what people are saying Anthony Davis' trade value is right now, not because of him as a player, to be clear, not because he's diminished as a player, but because of the idea of paying an injury-prone mid-30s guy $50, $60 million dollars in the apron era is unpalatable.

Windhorst is just a mouthpiece. They're seeing the Mavs as an easy lick. 50 million for AD is nothing considering the cap numbers. Half these stars are injury-prone and don't have half the impact that AD does. Mavs are 3 - 2 with AD since his return and he's not even in good form right now yet they beat the Heat, Nuggets & Rockets with him while they looked like the worst team in the league when he was out for an extended period.

[bdonovan]

Give him an extension :roll:

Brian Windhorst: I don't know what the value of Anthony Davis. Some of the stuff that I have heard from executives talking to me about what they think Anthony Davis' trade value is… I'm not even going to say it because then I'd get aggregated and people would be jumping down my throat and I would just be repeating something somebody else said. When I have heard what people are saying Anthony Davis' trade value is right now, not because of him as a player, to be clear, not because he's diminished as a player, but because of the idea of paying an injury-prone mid-30s guy $50, $60 million dollars in the apron era is unpalatable.

If this were from Shams, I'd believe it. Windhorst either doesn't seem to have the right connections or in the worst case, he gets a variety of data points but just repeats the things that he heard that agrees with his own limited viewpoint.

My experience is his accounts don't often line up with reality. I have to believe at least some front offices are saying this, but I doubt all. Guys like Markkanen and Jamal Murray are getting around $50m in today's league.

[Xiao Yao You]

Anthony Davis of the Dallas Mavericks, another former NBA champion, is expected to be a critical trade target of several teams, including many of the East's contenders. The Detroit Pistons, Atlanta Hawks and Toronto Raptors are expected to be suitors for Davis, league sou