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SixerFan03
07-19-2006, 07:08 AM
ok english bands own. English people kno music. Oasis 1st album definetly maybe was UKs 3rd fastest selling album. OAsis's second album wahts teh story is UKs 2nd BIGGEST selling album and oasis's thrid ablum be here now is UK fastest selling album ever. EVER.
English people kno music thats where the best bands come from. Thats proof that oasis is the best modern band
The UK's fastest selling album ever is Whatever People Say I Am Is What I Am Not by the Artic Monkeys. It's not a bad album, but it's not an all-time classic. Before that, the fastest selling album was some crappy album by some group you've never heard of.
Really, though, the UK like just as crappy music. The Spice Girls were huge in the UK.
Hawker
07-19-2006, 10:28 AM
maroon 5
ha
Hey Hawker, look at that! Logic! And by yours, I guess the Spice Girls are some of the all-time greatest musicians!
They were probably good but you didnt like them.
Really, though, the UK like just as crappy music.
So i guess the beatles led zeppelin, the who, pink floyd, and coldplay all suck to i guess?
Nice try UK is where the best bands come from and you cant deny that. Oasis rocks harder and is way more talented then green day. 'nuff said.
Kobe24
07-19-2006, 10:29 AM
The only rock band I like is in DEF JAM,forgot the name
Hawker
07-19-2006, 10:32 AM
Hawker, may I ask your age? How in the hell are sales figures proof? by that logic Britney Spears is one of the world's all-time greatest artists...
No by using britney spears doesnt make sense. Oasis first two albums were made in early '90s like 1992 and 1995. I was 6 then. Britney spears wasnt popular when i was 6. And if u mean that britney spears had a fastest selling album in america well who cares. Americans dont know music and this thread is proof.
JtotheIzzo
07-19-2006, 10:33 AM
Does anyone like Ween? They can play almost anything and have played like 500 different songs in concert. Great live show
CakeorDeath
07-19-2006, 10:56 AM
Does anyone like Ween?
Great band. The Mollusk is one my all-time favorite albums.
Some of my other favorite CURRENT bands:
Pearl Jam
Tool
Drive by Truckers
Stereophonics
Semiprocappa
07-19-2006, 10:58 AM
Great band. The Mollusk is one my all-time favorite albums.
Some of my other favorite CURRENT bands:
Pearl Jam
Tool
Drive by Truckers
Stereophonics
i didn't know that cake broke up. I guess they chose death
CakeorDeath
07-19-2006, 11:00 AM
They are not sellouts--that is a bullsh*t term. I would explain it to you, but instead check out the Tool song "Hooker with a Pen!s". He does a much better job that I can possibly do.
That is amazingly hilarious; well said. :applause:
I hate Green Day, and I hate it when people place them in the genres of punk or punk rock, because they're not.
Can't call them sellouts for no longer being apart of a musical movement that they were never part of to begin with.
CakeorDeath
07-19-2006, 11:04 AM
i didn't know that cake broke up. I guess they chose death
They didn't choose death; they wanted to choose cake, but the Church of England was out of cake (they only had three bits and they didn't expect such a rush). So left with a choice of 'or death,' they chose to have the chicken.
;)
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 11:31 AM
billie joel is like 5 ft tall r ight? he's not that short, but he is pretty small
Ok let's get off the Green Day talk for awhile and talk about some other good music, but what genra?
Indie - Death Cab for Cutie, New Pornographers, The Doves, Spoon.
Metal - Lamb of God, Black Label Society, Pantera, Slipknot, Atreyu
Screamo - Underoath, From First to Last, Set Your Goals, Stutterfly
Rock - Chevelle, Audioslave, Breaking Benjamin, System of A Down, Three Days Grace
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 11:35 AM
I hate Green Day, and I hate it when people place them in the genres of punk or punk rock, because they're not.
Can't call them sellouts for no longer being apart of a musical movement that they were never part of to begin with. hate them or not, they are punk, just because they wrote a record and it became more popular than any other punk record to date doesn't make them not-punk...someone said it earlier, every band wants to make it big, to call someone a sell-out is more of a jealousy term...fall out boy is mostly punk, but they sold out on this last album which was more pop.
Hawker
07-19-2006, 11:42 AM
but they arent real punk. They are new age punk. pop-punk.
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 11:44 AM
yes, i'll agree, there is no such thing as real punk. but, new age punk and pop punk are two different things. pop punk is the punk bands that are played on top 40 stations, new age punk is your underground stuff like Victory records bands, Warped Tour bands, etc.
ChuckOakley
07-19-2006, 11:49 AM
Bands
Guster
Wilco
Jayhawks
Radiohead
Weezer :(
Solo
Jack Johnson
Ben Folds
Ben Lee
Beck
CakeorDeath
07-19-2006, 11:52 AM
there is no such thing as real punk.
I think Black Flag, Minor Threat, the Ramones, and the Sex Pistols, for starters, would disagree with that.
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 11:55 AM
yeah i meant there was no such thing as real punk today, i listen to the ramones. this thread was about modern bands from 90's and today so i was thinking about 70's and 80's.
Heretik32
07-19-2006, 12:29 PM
Supersuckers
Backyard Babies
Psychopunch
My Chemical Romance
Danko Jones
are just some of the top of my head.
Pearl Jam - simply the greatest ever IMO
Radiohead - OK Computer is one of the best rock albums ever
Coldplay - I wouldn't say the most talented, but sometimes simple is better
Alice In Chains - Dirt, Jar of Flies are 2 of my fav albums of all time
Weezer - The first 2 albums anyway. The Blue album is incredible
Up and comers that I like now:
Pinback
The Flaming Lips
Nada Surf
Batchoy
07-19-2006, 01:08 PM
Before the end of the decade, Tommy Lee's new band "Supernova" will be hailed as the greatest band ever! :bowdown:
Book it!!! :rockon:
Close this thread, because I just finished it!!! :banana:
Thank you and good night. :pimp:
Hawker
07-19-2006, 01:21 PM
doubt it
TMacsOneGoodEye
07-19-2006, 01:31 PM
I don't really enjoy the Sex Pistols. As a matter of fact, I think they were horrible. They couldn't play their instruments, they were just attitude. I respect them for that, I guess. The Clash were 10 times the band The Sex Pistols were.
I just can't enjoy these crap bands we got these days that all sound the same like Good Charlotte, Green Day, Fall Out Boy, etc.
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 01:37 PM
Pearl Jam - simply the greatest ever IMO their new stuff sucks
I just can't enjoy these crap bands we got these days that all sound the same like Good Charlotte, Green Day, Fall Out Boy, etc. green day sounds nothing like GC and FOB, both of those bands are more whiny and poppy in their music
Heretik32
07-19-2006, 01:53 PM
Guys, just do yourself a favor and listen to anything by Danko Jones. That's energy right there.
butch mcrae
07-19-2006, 02:16 PM
shannonelements is the only one who knows what they're talkin about. song writing is an important talent as well. along with instrumental skills and dexterity. personally i'd rather listen to a green day album as opposed to a yngwie malsteem album, even though he has more "skills". I'm not the biggest green day fan, but they are far more talented than ppl give them credit for. The fact they are still around and being talked about should prove that. Being able to even release material during the rap era also helps their cause even though radio stations are being heavily pressured by labels to play their preferred artists.
In my opinion, if someone out there likes it and has somewhat of a following, that takes talent. music is based on preference. if you don't like screaming or loud music, your going to think they suck. If you don't like slow soft pu55y emo sheit, your going to think they suck.
with all that said, i haven't been listening to too much new music, i still like to listen to old school stuff. here's the stuff i've been jamming, as far as the rock genre goes:
screaming, loud genre:
-cave in - until your heart stops (its one of their older albums but my favorite, their newer stuff doesn't really interest me. they are basically every form of heavy put into one band)
-burst- (newer band with a fresh twist on a older genre)
-ephel duath- painter's palette (a talented band. death metal with a trumpet player, can't beat that)
soft pu55y ass emo sheit:
-sunny day real estate- diary (pretty much a classic album)
-minus the bear-
-horse the band-
ol skool:
-alice in chains-
-incubus-s.c.i.e.n.c.e.
-bob dylan-
-jimmy's chicken shack-
-sepultura-
-radiohead-
-sonic youth-
-portishead-
-tool-
-at the drive in-
-dream theater-
-fugazi-
-deftones-
other stuff:
-hella- (zach hill can play drums, find a vid)
-tortoise- (one of the best live shows i've seen)
-silver mt. zion-
-atari teenage riot-
Suns4Life
07-19-2006, 02:22 PM
i just think i got dumber, a lot dumber, from reading hawker talk like he knows anything about music.
eboloid
07-19-2006, 02:43 PM
It took 168 posts for someone to mention Tool? That's a real shame, they're really good if you ignore their teeny-occult crap and the fans who swallow it whole.
I saw them live a long time ago in London (June 2001) and it was wonderful. I was really stoned and all the Christian protestors made it a very surreal experience. And the homeless people outside. All that.
And Maynard is really goddamn short.
JtotheIzzo
07-19-2006, 02:46 PM
the Tool video where the stick figure rips open the rusty pipe and touches the meat passing through----that sh!t is dope
ConanRulesNBC
07-19-2006, 02:53 PM
Alice in Chains
Soundgarden
RHCP
Audioslave
Metallica
Pantera
JtotheIzzo
07-19-2006, 02:57 PM
Alice in Chains
Soundgarden
RHCP
Audioslave
Metallica
Pantera
Conan likes to rock out...he may own a Trans Am and he very well could have or may still have a mullet
Conan
http://runnoft.footboot.net/Mullet.jpg
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 03:18 PM
I like Tool but I prefer A Perfect Circle. I know I know... agreed
Suns4Life
07-19-2006, 03:27 PM
Hawker was talking about power chords being musically generic. Thats the way punk is supposed to be. If you have ever listened to serialistic music, which is based on a 12 tone system, it sounds like an audio abortion, but it is "complicated" so does that make it superior? Same with free jazz, it sounds like someone is playing a bunch of brown notes on a sax.
vapid
07-19-2006, 04:08 PM
...fall out boy is mostly punk, but they sold out on this last album which was more pop.
I can let the green day thing pass, but are you kidding me? They have nothing to do with punk. Punk is mostly about the message, which is usually counter-culturish. Fall out boy does nothing of that sort.
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 04:10 PM
exactly, not on "From Under the Cork Tree", that's basically a pop-rock album, they're earlier stuff I thought was punk, I could be wrong because I never like them
Suns4Life
07-19-2006, 04:11 PM
I've listened to their older stuff, sounded the same to me
Heretik32
07-19-2006, 05:04 PM
I kinda like the fact that rock music is being discussed on an NBA forum. Shows that we're not all hip hop heads.
And by the way, did I mention you should try Danko Jones?
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 05:53 PM
I kinda like the fact that rock music is being discussed on an NBA forum. Shows that we're not all hip hop heads. yeah, I'm actually surprised at the number of people on here who listen to rock
RedBlackAttack
07-19-2006, 06:12 PM
Here is the list:
1. Radiohead
2. Tool
End. Of. List.
These two bands are so far ahead of everyone else, it is almost funny. There are other great bands out there today, but these two are by far the best.
obonpaxis
07-19-2006, 07:44 PM
I'm an old fart, but whatever:
sonic youth
unwound
the fall
hot snakes
pixies
the melvins
mission of burma
I still bust out some old East Bay punk:
Crimpshrine
Op Ivy
pre-eye shadow and "social conscious" Green Day
some early-80s DC hardcore:
Minor Threat
the Faith
Rites of Spring (the phrase "emotional hardcore" was used to describe them at their inception--later shortened to "emo-core" and finally to the uber-gay "emo"--but don't blame them)
and lots of weird old krautrock and 20th-century avante garde sh|it that I'm too embarassed to mention.
I guess this thread doesn't cover hip-hop, old honky-tonk/rockabilly music, or the sounds of the voices inside my head.
vapid
07-19-2006, 08:03 PM
here are a few bands to just mention as being good, but no where near "top":
Death From Above 1979
Straylight Run
Bane
Dinosaur Jr.
Dresden Dolls
Deftones
Dream Theatre
Everytime I Die
Do Make Say Think
Hawker
07-19-2006, 09:21 PM
I dont really listen to much radiohead but i hear they are sorta like pink floyd. Schism isnt too bad. only song i kno by tool. Radiohead is english so they must be good.
bjtrdff
07-19-2006, 09:46 PM
In no particular order:
Pearl Jam
Nine Inch Nails
Queens of the Stne Age
Foo Fighters
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Jane's Adiction
Tool
A Perfect Circle
The Smashing Pumpkins
Oasis
There we go.
mad handles
07-19-2006, 09:56 PM
In no specific order..... Linkin Park, Godsmack, Rage Against the Machine, Green Day, Blink 182
SixerFan03
07-19-2006, 10:07 PM
That's like saying "Radiohead is english so they must have bad teeth".
:rolleyes:
Although, I will say, in my OPINION, Radiohead is one of the best modern bands.
Well to be fair, I'm sure they do have bad teeth.
Oh no...a Blink182 fan...
but I forgive you since you like Green Day. :applause:
Timmeh
07-19-2006, 10:11 PM
there's nothing wrong with blink
Velocirap31
07-20-2006, 12:00 AM
Blink is pretty good actually, but obviously they're nowhere close to being as good as Greenday. I only like a select few of their songs (Blink 182's) though such as Adam's Song. The rest of Blink's songs are pretty bad while I can't find a Greenday song I don't like (I have every Greenday song I know of on my iPod and every cd, around 130 songs).
Lots of Green Day overrating going on here. Taking 10 years off between quality albums, exactly what genuises are made of. :rolleyes:
Velocirap31
07-20-2006, 12:22 AM
Lots of Green Day overrating going on here. Taking 10 years off between quality albums, exactly what genuises are made of.
A bit of an exaggeration...
notorious ai3
07-20-2006, 12:25 AM
there aren't a whole lot of good mainstream bands that dominate one particular subgenre of rock, and you have to dabble into a few to get a good amount of nice music these days. i can't stand punk and emo crap, and i don't care for the new green day at all. there are pretty decent underground bands out there but you have to really look for them. as far as mainstream goes, i'd probably list my favorites (that are active) as:
1. tool
2. radiohead
3. red hot chili peppers (stadium arcadium was great, which surprised me because the media has been giving it as much hype as american idiot did at that time, and american idiot sucks imo)
4. incubus
5. nine inch nails
6. system of a down
7. shinedown
8. ra
9. audioslave
10. skindred
pretty much 1 and 2 are tier 1, 3-6 are tier 2 and 7-10 are tier 3 in terms of grouping them based on ability. ra has some great potential, but they should try a new sound on the next album to refrain from becoming too boring. i think skindred is an acquired taste as the singing can be rather odd (a mix of reggae and metal) but they are good if you can get used to the singing.
RedBlackAttack
07-20-2006, 12:47 AM
I dont really listen to much radiohead but i hear they are sorta like pink floyd.
That is a common misconception, imo. They are like Pink Floyd in the fact that they have gone to places that rock music and music and general has not gone. They are revolutionary and completely unique like Floyd was. They also have a mystique, much like Floyd has/had.
However, if you listen to the actual music, it isn't much like Floyd. I mean... there are a few of their older songs like "Subterranian Homesick Alien" and "The Bends" that are a bit "Floyd-like". But, for the most part, their sound is 100% unique and changing all the time.
Their albums have gone as follows:
The Bends ('96) is mostly straight-forward rock and almost a little punky.
OK Computer ('97) is spacy and more abstract than The Bends. It is a concept album and has a common theme throughout. This was really the album where they separated themselves from any other band ever, imo. 100% unique sound.
Kid A (2000) is by far the most abstract album that has been put out by a major band in the last 20 years. It is very electronic, but with jazz and r&b influences. You could listen to their first 3 albums and then listen to Kid A and you wouldn't even know it was the same band. It is another concept album that MUST be listened to straight through. The theme is that Kid A will be the first cloned human being and it centers around how that person will face the world and the ramifications of cloning on society.
Amnesiac (2001) is kind of like "Kid B". It is basically the collection of songs that they decided not to use for Kid A. The crazy thing is that Radiohead "leftovers" are just as riveting as any of the other albums.
Hail to the Thief (2003) is sort of a mixture of Kid A and OK Computer. There is some of the electronic sound, but also some straight-forward rock. It is an album that really gives the tense feeling that the world had in the lead-up to the Iraq War.
Thom Yorke (Radiohead's lead singer) just released a solo album (The Eraser) that is all electronic. It is completely unlike any Radiohead album and centers mostly around his unbelievable voice and lyrics.
One of the main thing that makes Radiohead so special and unique (besides their run of 5 GREAT albums... their first album, Pablo Honey, was mediocre compared to the next 5) is that they refuse to assign themselves to a specific sound or genre. They are completely unafraid to take chances with their music. They could have easily stuck with the OK Computer sound with all of their other albums and been wildly successful, but they chose the path less travelled.
They are, imo, one of the top 3 bands of all-time... and I don't say that lightly. I am a huge fan (obviously) and even made the ride from Ohio to Manchester, TN last month to see them perform at the Bonnaroo Festival.
SixerFan03
07-20-2006, 12:50 AM
I can't find a Greenday song I don't like
Dominated Love Slave
Kiss Murder
07-20-2006, 04:03 AM
I can listen to Greenday...for about..7 minutes and 31 seconds...after that...I get bored because the songs are boring.
Just my opinion on things just like everybody else...
chains5000
07-20-2006, 04:54 AM
Nobody likes Faith No More? Albums like The Real Thing or Angel Dust are classics.
And Mike Patton's a great singer.
Heretik32
07-20-2006, 05:58 AM
Got a link?
Sure, here you are:
http://www.dankojones.com/
Heretik32
07-20-2006, 07:13 AM
I'm surprised Billy Talent haven't shown up in this thread. Incredibly creative young band.
RedBlackAttack
07-20-2006, 07:14 AM
Fantastic post. Expect to be pos-repped.
Damn. It won't let me pos-rep you yet, since I recently did for the BitTorrent help. Sorry.
It's all good, bro. I'm glad someone took the time to read my thoughts on Radiohead. I thought that most people would just skip it due to its length. I'm passionate about that band, though. I've seen them live 5 times, which is a lot for someone in the states. Twice in New York, twice in Cleveland, and their marathon set at Bonnaroo. They just keep getting better and better. There seems to be no ceiling with this band.
Hawker
07-20-2006, 09:47 AM
That's like saying "Radiohead is english so they must have bad teeth".
I am english btw and so is my dad. Neither have bad teeth although we do live in the USA. But has there ever been an english rock band that has sucked? I cant think of any.
I'm surprised Billy Talent haven't shown up in this thread. Incredibly creative young band.
It has. You just didnt read or overlooked it.
Hawker
07-20-2006, 09:48 AM
BTW blink 182 is horrible. All their songs sound alike and the singer can't really sing. I am glad i have grown out my middle school days of liking them.
Hawker
07-20-2006, 03:27 PM
This Thread Must Live On
RedBlackAttack
07-20-2006, 03:33 PM
BTW blink 182 is horrible. All their songs sound alike and the singer can't really sing. I am glad i have grown out my middle school days of liking them.
Never liked them for the reasons you listed. Forgive me if I don't like bad pop rock. This is a band that will die with the era, imo. 20 years from now, no one will know who the h#ll they are. That is really the true test, isn't it?
geeWiz15
07-20-2006, 03:43 PM
What about Jimmy Eat World?
RedBlackAttack
07-20-2006, 03:50 PM
What about Jimmy Eat World?
I haven't listened to them enough to comment. I hate to put labels on music or even put them into genres because to me, great music is great music... no need for subgroups... that said, I have yet to hear an "emo" group that I can get into. I guess I just contradicted myself, but all well...
geeWiz15
07-20-2006, 03:52 PM
Are you trying to say JEW is emo?
RedBlackAttack
07-20-2006, 03:53 PM
Like I said, I haven't listened to them... but they are considered "emo", I believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Eat_World
Timmeh
07-20-2006, 03:58 PM
JEW is good, I've got Futures and Bleed American. In my book there are two types of emo, there's the JEW, All American Rejects emo where it's basically love songs/breakup songs, then the dark side slit your wrists screaming emo like From First to Last and Underoath
Hawker
07-20-2006, 04:11 PM
timmeh thats a good division between emo but i still dont like either. And they both suck. there is one JEW song that is pretty good about eating asphalt or something.
vapid
07-20-2006, 04:18 PM
JEW is good, I've got Futures and Bleed American. In my book there are two types of emo, there's the JEW, All American Rejects emo where it's basically love songs/breakup songs, then the dark side slit your wrists screaming emo like From First to Last and Underoath
The second type is called screamo, i guess a sub-genre of emo? Anyways, emo shouldnt really be called a genre, as artists of many different musical backgrounds sing about experiences dealing with love, mostly because its a big part of our lives.
Heretik32
07-20-2006, 04:39 PM
My Chemical Romance and I Am Ghost are two good Emo bands.
i seen hippos
07-20-2006, 04:57 PM
there is no such thing as good emo.
geeWiz15
07-20-2006, 05:01 PM
I still don't see how JEW and My Chem Romance can be considered the same thing. Since when are rock songs about love and introspection put in the same boat as unfathomable pain? JEW is like Christian Rock only without the Christ. Does that make any sense? It's positive and it's got some emotion in it, but it isn't pathetic. Am I coming off as crazy?
Hawker
07-20-2006, 05:04 PM
Sure there have. You can't think of any BECAUSE they sucked and didn't get any play.
im talking about english bands taht got play
jamal
07-20-2006, 05:04 PM
christian rock is not complete w/ out vertical horizen
craigthomasb
07-20-2006, 08:13 PM
CLAXONS!!!!!! (http://www.myspace.com/klaxons)
Eto'o
07-20-2006, 09:11 PM
Indie Rock for life, please. :rockon: . I'm also into the folk sound thats coming around.
Here's a couple of bands in almost specific order --
The Strokes - Favorite band of all time, all 3 albums are an extremely good listen. Before their debut album, Is This It, I've never been able to listen through a whole album and enjoy it since The Beatles. Really fantastic stuff here. Recommended Song: Reptilia
The Kooks - Perhaps the catchiest stuff I've ever heard. You'll find yourself putting these guys on repeat for weeks straight. It should take only time now until these guys cut into mainstream. Recommended Song: She Moves In Her Own Way
Shout Out Louds - Swedish band that has achieved some minor success by appearing on the O.C. soundtrack, but is deserving of much more. Simple drums, Simple guitar, Simple keyboarding..All tied into some great use of a mediocre voice. This is what indie's all about here. Recommended Song: The Comeback
The Black Keys - This two-piece band has a unique sound for this point in time. Sort of a Hendrix style guitar sound, with some creative drum lines. Recommended Song: Set You Free
The Killers - Yeah, you've probably heard these guys on the radio and whatnot. But for good reason; a great debut album, and they're new single makes their upcoming album (to be released in Oct.) look promising. Recommended Song: When You Were Young
Devendra Banhart - Here's a guy who's making music. Great music. Creative little guitar chords, combined with his simple vocals & lyrics. Definitely worth checking out, very chill music to listen to. Recommended Song: Mama Wolf
The Flaming Lips - They've remained "indie" within their own right, despite their apparent success. Everyone's got their own opinion of them. Unique is an understatement. Recommended Song: Fight Test
The Redwalls - For you Classic Rock fans we have this Chicago based band. Reminiscent of The Rolling Stones, these guys really know what they're doing. Catchy Stuff too. Recommended Song: Thank You
If you guys want me to put these songs up for download just say the word.
--There's so much more out there than the stuff the Media tries to push us toward. I've got no problem with hip-hop, Rock is simply a preference.:rockon:
Those bands make songs that can only give me migraines and make me beat up someone for no reason whatsoever. No entertainment value!
RAwRIce
07-20-2006, 09:53 PM
christian rock is not complete w/ out vertical horizen
I love christian rock, token is my fav. artist.
The_Masterplan
04-14-2007, 04:46 PM
bumpzorz
Wow looking back at some of the stuff I wrote ( I am hawker btw) I can agree that i was a complete dumb ass when i was posting.
Although I do think the majority of those bands blows (green day thrusday, and taking back sunday) but i didnt provide enough evidence of why they blow.
The way I posted pretty much sucked. One-liners that weren't written correctly etc.
But I still think talent isnt opinionated. People just like them, but it doesnt necessarily mean they are a GOOD and TALENTED band.
I am gonna re-arrange my top 5.
1. Oasis
2. Radiohead
3. Rage against the macine
4. Red Hot chili peppers
5. Bloc Party
Brit pop is still awesome
The_Masterplan
04-14-2007, 05:08 PM
I agree with this statement. I always skip over these songs when I play the album, although they arent that horrible. 11/13 great songs on one album is good enough for me. These remaining 2/13 are mediocre, but not total crap.
You're dilusional if you put Oasis on a top 10 modern rock band list. Putting this band at #1 is utterly obsurd. "Wonderwall" and "Morning Glory" are the only notable tracks and they're on the same album. On top of that, this British band has zero class. For instance, they said "FCUK THE BEATLES." :banghead: In addition, they are racist and refuse to tour any Asian country. The leader singer also spits on stage on live television and fueds with his own brother. What the hell?
You're delusional if you dont put them on there as top 5. They were the best of the britpop age and had a huge affect. They had attitudes like no other. They were cocky and arrogant and brought back the rock 'n' roll attitude of the old.
You know why they spit at fans? One, because he is drunk as hell and two, people come to the show just to call them C*nts and flick them off.
And they just had a little fight with paul mcCartney because Liam and Noel worship the beatles. They mustve been drunk when they said that.
In their recent album, Stop the clocks, Noel said all along they have been trying to achieve a modern beatles sound. He always makes beatles references. Trust me, it was just a little fight that he and liam had with mccartney.
different107
04-14-2007, 11:42 PM
All of this "top bands" is really an opinion. Punk music is some of the easiest music and has the least talent inolved. However, some people like that more than a talent filled song. I'm pretty open to a lot of stuff, but it is all just opinions and personal preferences.
The_Masterplan
04-14-2007, 11:45 PM
Knowing what a top band isnt an opinion. The only thing opinionated is LIKING a band.
different107
04-14-2007, 11:51 PM
Knowing what a top band isnt an opinion. The only thing opinionated is LIKING a band.
Nobody has ever made a "top bands" list that everyone has ever agreed with and nobody ever will because of opinion and personal preference. How can you truly KNOW who a top band is? It's just an opinion.
The_Masterplan
04-15-2007, 12:24 AM
Nobody has ever made a "top bands" list that everyone has ever agreed with and nobody ever will because of opinion and personal preference. How can you truly KNOW who a top band is? It's just an opinion.
By how much of an effect they have put on the people and whether the music can last through the decades and still be remembered.
I am pretty sure EVERYONE can agree that beatles are a top band.
It honestly isnt an opinion. Today's punk bands wont be remembered because they suck and will just fade out. They havent really had a huge lasting effect on people.
AtTheDriveIn
04-15-2007, 12:42 AM
I still don't see how JEW and My Chem Romance can be considered the same thing. Since when are rock songs about love and introspection put in the same boat as unfathomable pain? JEW is like Christian Rock only without the Christ. Does that make any sense? It's positive and it's got some emotion in it, but it isn't pathetic. Am I coming off as crazy?
Lots of bands nowadays are Christian Rock, or Christian Hardcore bands, but aren't exactly into Christ, they just sign with a company that is knows for signing Christian artists.
Eg. The Agony Scene, look them up on Wikipedia and you'll see what i mean.
TMacsOneGoodEye
04-15-2007, 01:20 AM
Radiohead. Pre Kid A. Don't really like anything post OK Computer.
Wilco. Am I the only one who thinks Summerteeth and half of Being There is superior to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot? I always hear the praise for YHF but noone ever talks about the two previous albums, which I prefer.
The Auteurs. These guys are great. Luke Haines is a genius. All you musicphiles out there go and download their albums New Wave and their next album After Murder Park. They are a mid-late 90's band, but their stuff is stellar. Plus, they have a music video directed by Chris Cunningham which in itself makes them top 5. I'll upload for you if you're interested.
Queens Of The Stone Age. Josh Homme can do no wrong. He's what you want in a rockstar. A badass guitar shredder with wicked chops who doesn't take himself or his band too seriously. He's one of the most respected musicians in the world.
Spoon. Probably my favorite band of all time. They just make such great music. Got a new album coming out this summer. I can't wait.
Those are my faves off the top of my head. I listen to so much music but those are the definites. Can't ever get tired of those bands.
AtTheDriveIn
04-15-2007, 01:47 AM
Every single band i have on my Ipod.
#
3 Doors Down
The 69eyes
A
A Day To Remember
A Static Lullaby
A Willhelm Scream
AFI
The Agony Scene
Alexisonfire
The Amity Affliction
And Then I Turned 7
Anti-Flag
Arch Enemy
Armor For The Broken
As Cities Burn
At The Drive In
Ataris
Atreyu
Audioslave
B
Before Their Eyes
Beneath The Sky
Bleed The Dream
Bleeding Through
Bless The Fall
Brand New
Bright Eyes
Bring Me The Horizon
Bullet For My Valentine
C
Carpathian
Carpathian Forest
The Chariot
Chiodos
Coheed And Cambria
Coldplay
Cradle Of Filth
D
Destroy The Runner
The Devil Wears Prada
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Drop Dead, Gorgeous
E
Edgewater
End Of Fashion
Endwell
Escape The Fate
Evergreen Terrace
F
Filter
Finger Eleven
Flyleaf
Foo Fighters
The Fray
From Autumn To Ashes
From First To Last
Funeral For A Friend
G
The Getaway Plan
H
Halifax
Haste The Day
Heaven Shall Burn
HIM
I
I Am Ghost
I Killed The Prom Queen
Ice Nine Kills
Ill Nino
J
The Juliana Theory
K
Killswitch Engage
The Kodan Armada
L
Linkin Park
M
Marilyn Manson
Metallica
Mewithoutyou
Mudvayne
My Chemical Romance
My Children My Bride
N
New Found Glory
Nirvana
Norma Jean
Number One Gun
O
Oasis
OPM
P
Parkway Drive
Pg. 99
Pilfers
Placebo
Powerslam
R
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
The Red Jumpsuit Aparatus
Remembering Never
S
Saosin
Scarlet
Scarlet Affair
Senses Fail
The September Fall
Shadows Fall
Sick Puppies
Silverstein
Slayer
Slipknot
Snow Patrol
Static X
Stick To Your Guns
Story Of The Year
Stutterfly
Sunday Airline
Switchfoot
System Of A Down
T
Taking Back Sunday
Thursday
Three Days Grace
U
Underoath
The Used
V
Valencia
Vetical Horizon
W
The White Stripes
With Broken Wings
Y
Yellowcard
Yourcodenameismilo
Every single band I have. The Bold ones are my favourites.
TMacsOneGoodEye
04-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Your iPod must hate that.
AtTheDriveIn
04-15-2007, 03:33 AM
Your iPod must hate that.
I've never asked.
craigthomasb
04-15-2007, 11:46 AM
kasabian, no doubt about it, best modern rock band by a mile, so mich more creative than any other band out there!
whilst were on the subject of bands, what does everyone think to the new arctic monkeys song brianstorm??
you can download it here
http://musicslut.blogspot.com/2007/03/arctic-monkeys-brianstorm.html
the video for it is wank though
Timmeh
04-15-2007, 11:54 AM
Chevelle IMO is one of the best right now. Check out their new album Vena Sera. Pretty sick ****.
Randy
04-15-2007, 01:43 PM
kasabian, no doubt about it, best modern rock band by a mile, so mich more creative than any other band out there!
whilst were on the subject of bands, what does everyone think to the new arctic monkeys song brianstorm??
you can download it here
http://musicslut.blogspot.com/2007/03/arctic-monkeys-brianstorm.html
the video for it is wank though
Sorry but Velvet Revolver is hands down the best current rock band. Scott Weiland and Slash, plus Matt and Duff from Guns N' Roses? Forget about it. Slash is one of my favorite and most influential guitarists ever. Foo Fighters are second, mostly b/c Dave Grohl is one of the coolest and talented musicians ever.
Modern "rock" is a joke, aside from a handful of bands, current music makes me want to rip my eyes out. Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Good Charlotte, Hawthorne Heights, Panic at the Disco? I'd rather drink acid then listen to this crap. It's insulting to real bands that these crappy emo queers are even labeled as rock.
Give me Guns N' Roses, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Sabbath, Chuck Berry, Nirvana, AC/DC, Pantera, CCR, Van Halen, Ozzy, and Jimi anyday. CCR is the most underrated American band ever.
The_Masterplan
04-15-2007, 02:07 PM
Sorry but Velvet Revolver is hands down the best current rock band. Scott Weiland and Slash, plus Matt and Duff from Guns N' Roses? Forget about it. Slash is one of my favorite and influential guitarists ever. Foo Fighters are second, mostly b/c Dave Grohl is one of the coolest and talented musicians ever.
Modern "rock" is a joke, aside from a handful of bands, current music makes me want to rip my eyes out. Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Good Charlotte, Hawthorne Heights, Panic at the Disco? I'd rather drink acid then listen to this crap. It's insulting to real bands that these crappy emo queers are even labeled as rock.
Give me Guns N' Roses, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Sabbath, Chuck Berry, Nirvana, AC/DC, Pantera, CCR, Van Halen, Ozzy, and Jimi anyday. CCR is the most underrated American band ever.
I like your taste.
Randy
04-15-2007, 02:21 PM
I like your taste.
Thanks. It's a shame what modern music has become. John Mayer is considered the current guitar hero. Ouch.
I let a girl in one of my lectures on Friday listen to my i-pod and the song that was playing was Pantera's "Walk". She puckered her nose and asked, "Why do you listen death metal?". Stupid b*tch. Go listen to your carbon-copied r&b crap. You're lucky I like to stare at your legs.
different107
04-15-2007, 07:03 PM
By how much of an effect they have put on the people and whether the music can last through the decades and still be remembered.
I am pretty sure EVERYONE can agree that beatles are a top band.
It honestly isnt an opinion. Today's punk bands wont be remembered because they suck and will just fade out. They havent really had a huge lasting effect on people.
The beatles are one of the top for sure, but normally I don't choose my music on what has a huge lasting effect. Some of the punk music I like will most likely be pretty much forgotten in a few years, but thats fine with me. I'm not looking for what other people think about the music I like. By the way, I'm not saying punk like that emo-ish stuff that some people consider rock or punk some times.
different107
04-15-2007, 07:04 PM
Chevelle IMO is one of the best right now. Check out their new album Vena Sera. Pretty sick ****.
:cheers: Yeah, I can't get enough of that stuff.
AtTheDriveIn
04-15-2007, 09:39 PM
Thanks. It's a shame what modern music has become. John Mayer is considered the current guitar hero. Ouch.
I let a girl in one of my lectures on Friday listen to my i-pod and the song that was playing was Pantera's "Walk". She puckered her nose and asked, "Why do you listen death metal?". Stupid b*tch. Go listen to your carbon-copied r&b crap. You're lucky I like to stare at your legs.
Hahah, yeah I hate when people say ''omg do you believe in the devil'' because apparently rock is the devils music.
Randy
04-15-2007, 11:36 PM
Hahah, yeah I hate when people say ''omg do you believe in the devil'' because apparently rock is the devils music.
This was a question posed for me by an apparent genius in a seperate thread a few days ago:
I gotta question for you. Why is it always rap music that's under the microscope. I bet you probably don't have a problem with satanic rock music where people are screaming about dead bodies and sh!t with guitars.
I wish Microsoft would invent a program where I could punch someone in the face through the computer because this kid would have two black eyes and broken jaw.
I asked him to give me some examples of quote-un-quote satanic rock, and he gave me Metallica, Megadeth, and TWISTED SISTER. If you don't know who Twisted Sister, just do a quick Google image search, what a joke. Screaming about dead bodies with guitars? Apparently guitars are the tools of Lucifer himself!! Oh no!!
If you love rock & roll or the blues as much as I do, check this video out, religion at its finest: manipulating and propagating.
Here is part 1 of many, absolutely pathetic and insulting to intelligent people everywhere but hilarious at the same time: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7334165509680783347&q=sold+their+soul+for+rock+roll&hl=en
AtTheDriveIn
04-16-2007, 12:43 AM
If you love rock & roll or the blues as much as I do, check this video out, religion at its finest: manipulating and propagating.
Here is part 1 of many, absolutely pathetic and insulting to intelligent people everywhere but hilarious at the same time: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7334165509680783347&q=sold+their+soul+for+rock+roll&hl=en
I watched the video. How can someone actually believe this stuff? I wasn't not convinced one bit that ''the devil'' is to blame for everything.
I found it even more pathetic when they went to lyrical content of Rammstein. A band does NOT influence anyone to kill.
How can these people pinpoint the exact song anyway?
Firstly they said it was that German band (forgotten the name already) and then they went on to blame Rammstein.
This is truly the most pathetic piece of garbage I've ever watched.
AtTheDriveIn
04-16-2007, 12:54 AM
Just wondering.
If a band says their genre is Christian Rock, or Christian Hardcore etc. does that make them safe from being called devil worshipers?
Randy
04-16-2007, 12:58 AM
I watched the video. How can someone actually believe this stuff? I wasn't not convinced one bit that ''the devil'' is to blame for everything.
I found it even more pathetic when they went to lyrical content of Rammstein. A band does NOT influence anyone to kill.
How can these people pinpoint the exact song anyway?
Firstly they said it was that German band (forgotten the name already) and then they went on to blame Rammstein.
This is truly the most pathetic piece of garbage I've ever watched.
Angus Young says something comes over him when he is playing the guitar, and these morons manipulate it into Angus being posessed by a demon. What a joke. It's called passion and love for music you tards.
They even go on to show the Spice Girls and N'SYNC as being mediums for the devil :roll:
AtTheDriveIn
04-16-2007, 01:00 AM
Angus Young says something comes over him when he is playing the guitar, and these morons manipulate it into Angus being posessed by a demon. What a joke. It's called passion and love for music you tards.
They even go on to show the Spice Girls and N'SYNC as being mediums for the devil :roll:
The guy said about 11mins through to stop watching if your heart isn't broken, and lunch was ready too, so i stopped :D, I'll watch the rest later on though.
Randy
04-16-2007, 01:06 AM
Just wondering.
If a band says their genre is Christian Rock, or Christian Hardcore etc. does that make them safe from being called devil worshipers?
Further along in the "documentary" they say that any music that doesn't praise Jesus is evil. So yes, 95% of all music is devil music.
Randy
04-16-2007, 01:11 AM
The guy said about 11mins through to stop watching if your heart isn't broken, and lunch was ready too, so i stopped :D, I'll watch the rest later on though.
I didn't even watch the first part all the way through, I skipped around looking for my favorite bands. I saw Robert Johnson, Black Sabbath and Ozzy, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, and The Beatles. So apparently I'm devil worshipper b/c I love all these bands. Looks like I'm on the Highway to Hell :rockon:
AtTheDriveIn
04-16-2007, 01:14 AM
Further along in the "documentary" they say that any music that doesn't praise Jesus is evil. So yes, 95% of all music is devil music.
Did they bag out Rap? Hip Hop? at any time.
I would think that that kind of music encourages violence more then Rock does.
Randy
04-16-2007, 01:56 AM
Did they bag out Rap? Hip Hop? at any time.
I would think that that kind of music encourages violence more then Rock does.
I'm sure they do eventually, I didn't catch any however. The DVD's of this crap is like 11 hours long, so I'm sure they covered every artist that ever wrote a note.
ForceOfNature
12-17-2007, 05:30 PM
Green Day is pretty good. RHCP, Oasis, and The Offspring are other ones I like.
nashforprez
12-17-2007, 06:17 PM
Oasis
Nirvana
Smashing Pumpkins
RATM
The Vines
Wolfmother
Soundgarden
Mars Volta
Radiohead
RHCP
i seen hippos
12-17-2007, 06:39 PM
Hawker was pretty silly back then. Basically said I shouldn't like a band cause they weren't talented....which was stupid already, but considering he is a huge Oasis fan, who aren't exactly great talents themselves, it was hilarious.
Good thing he's grown up.
Hawker
12-17-2007, 06:58 PM
Hawker was pretty silly back then. Basically said I shouldn't like a band cause they weren't talented....which was stupid already, but considering he is a huge Oasis fan, who aren't exactly great talents themselves, it was hilarious.
Good thing he's grown up.
lol...Noel's talented and that's about it. Liam used to be talented and the drummer is talented too (drummer for the Who as well).
But Andy Bell and Gem Archer are nothing special but are major upgrades from their predecessors who just played bar chords and lame bass notes.
RIMMER
12-17-2007, 08:45 PM
lol...Noel's talented and that's about it. Liam used to be talented and the drummer is talented too (drummer for the Who as well).
But Andy Bell and Gem Archer are nothing special but are major upgrades from their predecessors who just played bar chords and lame bass notes.
Oasis sucks sweaty balls.
benJAMin
12-17-2007, 09:52 PM
1. Pearl Jam
2. Pearl Jam
3. A Perfect Circle
4. Lucky Boys Confusion
5. Death Cab
6. Foo Fighters
Also have been diggin Silversun Pickups, Breaking Benjamin, Wolfmother, Coheed and Cambria.
benJAMin
12-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Vedder's Into the Wild Soundtrack was pretty killer too
Aldridge Fan
12-18-2007, 12:03 AM
Well I'm going with just now:
Broken Social Scene
Bloc Party
Arcade Fire
Stars
Rilo Kiley
The Decemberists
Architecture in Helsinki
Death Cab
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Wolf Parade
The Boy Least Likely To
Apostle of Hustle
Metric
Cursive
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Sufjan Stevens (Even with his strong religious undertones.)
The New Pornographers
Art Brut
Feist
I agree more with this guy. These are more modern bands.
Some of you guys are mentioning bands from a decade ago. Come on!
In addition to these "modern" bands, I also like:
• TV on The Radio
• Band of Horses
• My Morning Jacket
• Cold War Kids
• Peter Bjorn & John
• The Glands
• Cat Power
• Modest Mouse
• Winterpills
fatboy11
12-18-2007, 12:47 AM
Well I'm going with just now:
Broken Social Scene
Bloc Party
Arcade Fire
Stars
Rilo Kiley
The Decemberists
Architecture in Helsinki
Death Cab
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Wolf Parade
The Boy Least Likely To
Apostle of Hustle
Metric
Cursive
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Sufjan Stevens (Even with his strong religious undertones.)
The New Pornographers
Art Brut
FeistGood list.
I really like Cursive and the Decemberists.
I'd like to add DeVotchKa, Tokyo Police Club, Jose Gonzalez, Cold War Kids and My Morning Jacket.
EDIT: Didn't see the guy above me who posted two of the bands I mentioned.
Aldridge Fan
12-18-2007, 12:55 AM
Good list.
I really like Cursive and the Decemberists.
I'd like to add DeVotchKa, Tokyo Police Club, Jose Gonzalez, Cold War Kids and My Morning Jacket.
EDIT: Didn't see the guy above me who posted two of the bands I mentioned.
That's OK. At least we think alike. :cheers:
Hawker
12-18-2007, 01:53 AM
This is a great bump considering VH1 is coming out with the Top 100 Greatest Songs of the 90s this week. It deserve its own thread.
Aldridge Fan
12-18-2007, 01:58 AM
This is a great bump considering VH1 is coming out with the Top 100 Greatest Songs of the 90s this week. It deserve its own thread. That'll be interesting. I loved the 90's! :cheers:
RidonKs
12-18-2007, 10:40 PM
Have The Fratellis been mentioned yet in this thread? If not, The Fratellis.
If so, props to whoever mentioned The Fratellis.
FOYE4MVP
12-18-2007, 10:45 PM
underOATH
Hawker
12-18-2007, 10:46 PM
underOATH
Excuse me while I throw up.
kenuffff
12-19-2007, 01:33 AM
Nah, he admitted to ripping of the Beatles. Sure, if you're going to rip someone off, make it be the Beatles. They've put out some good songs, and Whats the Story... is a great album (Definitely Maybe is also pretty good). I'm a little biased against them because Liam is an ass. I don't know how many times he's said something stupid--"Radiohead makes me want to kill myself"; "There is Elvis and then there is me. I won't tell you who I think is greater"; and my favorite "George Harrison is a nipple".
As far as post-grunge power-pop goes, I like Weezer's first two albums better than Oasis' two best. Although I would say Oasis is the better band, back in the mid-90s, Weezer was close. Of course, post Pinkerton Weezer has sucked completely. As average is Lyla is, it blows away anything done by Rivers Cuomo since.
haha if you think oasis is the best you're wrong, and doubly wrong because blur was better than them, now the guy from blur does the gorillaz so he is STILL coming out with inventive stuff. oasis isn't even the best british band of the last decade or so
Hawker
12-19-2007, 01:40 AM
haha if you think oasis is the best you're wrong, and doubly wrong because blur was better than them, now the guy from blur does the gorillaz so he is STILL coming out with inventive stuff. oasis isn't even the best british band of the last decade or so
Joke post of the year award. Everybody and everyone knows that Oasis is better than blur and ALWAYS will be. Who cares if he is putting out more "inventive" stuff. He's still a **** and a *****. Gorillaz are nothing special.
And if Oasis isnt the best band of the last decade who is? Radiohead? Nope. Coldplay? Definetly not. Kasabian? Please (a good band though). Keane? Throw up. Arctic Monkeys? Just shoot me.
nashforprez
12-19-2007, 01:54 AM
Damon Albarn is a very talented songwriter. It is arguable that he is better than Gallagher. However, his singing is awful which brings the band below Oasis.
The Arctic Monkeys are going to be interesting since Noel Gallagher is going to write songs for them in the future.
notorious ai3
12-19-2007, 02:19 AM
And if Oasis isnt the best band of the last decade who is? Radiohead? Nope. Coldplay? Definetly not. Kasabian? Please (a good band though). Keane? Throw up. Arctic Monkeys? Just shoot me.
radiohead >>>> oasis
why is oasis so good in your eyes? seriously. these guys made a few hits in the 90s, but they aren't any better than any of the other bands who produced 3-4 good hits over that decade. radiohead blows them out of the water. they have experimented with many elements over their careers and have still made great music. radiohead is arguably the most influential british band in the last 3 decades. all of the other bands you mentioned though, i agree with you. coldplay blows nuts.
tool is better than oasis (waits for the "tool is overrated" comments), but its a shame they haven't put out a lot of music over the last decade. but i'm not sure if you are including metal into the discussion.
nashforprez
12-19-2007, 02:28 AM
radiohead >>>> oasis
why is oasis so good in your eyes? seriously. these guys made a few hits in the 90s, but they aren't any better than any of the other bands who produced 3-4 good hits over that decade. radiohead blows them out of the water. they have experimented with many elements over their careers and have still made great music. radiohead is arguably the most influential british band in the last 3 decades. all of the other bands you mentioned though, i agree with you. coldplay blows nuts.
tool is better than oasis (waits for the "tool is overrated" comments), but its a shame they haven't put out a lot of music over the last decade. but i'm not sure if you are including metal into the discussion.
Was radiohead considered britpop?
Hawker
12-19-2007, 02:37 AM
radiohead >>>> oasis
why is oasis so good in your eyes? seriously. these guys made a few hits in the 90s, but they aren't any better than any of the other bands who produced 3-4 good hits over that decade. radiohead blows them out of the water. they have experimented with many elements over their careers and have still made great music. radiohead is arguably the most influential british band in the last 3 decades. all of the other bands you mentioned though, i agree with you. coldplay blows nuts.
tool is better than oasis (waits for the "tool is overrated" comments), but its a shame they haven't put out a lot of music over the last decade. but i'm not sure if you are including metal into the discussion.
Radiohead is a great band but not as great as Oasis. So Radiohead uses synthesizers? So they must be better right? My ass. Just b/c they use "electronics" doesnt mean they are inventive. You just think it is b/c they use them very heavily. Creep is good. The bends and Ok computer are good as well. I have them both but they are not better than Oasis. They had their chance to take over Oasis but they never did. Too bad.
Tool sux compared to Oasis. Dont bring that joke of a band in here.
RidonKs
12-19-2007, 02:38 AM
Fra. Tel. Lis.
Now.
Hawker
12-19-2007, 02:47 AM
Fra. Tel. Lis.
Now.
There's a pizza place called i fratellis. It's gross too. Any relation?
RidonKs
12-19-2007, 02:54 AM
There's a pizza place called i fratellis. It's gross too. Any relation?
No. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKQK8rYZNHY&feature=related) They're (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Bs9_k3kVc&feature=related) actually (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqAJrIYjCLM&feature=related) quite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5fpsln6cUg&feature=related) good. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeBgHzcvihg&feature=related)
BurningHammer
12-08-2023, 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaLxdCXnr04
Im Still Ballin
12-12-2023, 04:35 PM
Fra. Tel. Lis.
Now.
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