Official WWE Thread

[GoRapz]

Everything WWE related goes in this thread.

What do you guys think of Booker T having the World Heavyweight Title?

Who do you guys think is the hottest diva search contestent left? who do you guys think should leave?

How long do you guys think DX will last for??


BTW, over here in Canada, they show Smackdown on Thursdays while I think you americans get it on Friday, you guys want the spoilers today after I watch Smackdown?

[AIR SETH]

Everything WWE related goes in this thread.

What do you guys think of Booker T having the World Heavyweight Title?

Who do you guys think is the hottest diva search contestent left? who do you guys think should leave?

How long do you guys think DX will last for??


BTW, over here in Canada, they show Smackdown on Thursdays while I think you americans get it on Friday, you guys want the spoilers today after I watch Smackdown?


I do not like Booker T having the title. Batista should get it back soon.

I think Erica is the hottest Diva in the Diva Search.

DX is supposed to be done after No Mercy or Summer Slam because Shawn Michaels has to have knee surgery. That is what I heard.

[L.Kizzle]

Everything WWE related goes in this thread.

What do you guys think of Booker T having the World Heavyweight Title?

Who do you guys think is the hottest diva search contestent left? who do you guys think should leave?

How long do you guys think DX will last for??


BTW, over here in Canada, they show Smackdown on Thursdays while I think you americans get it on Friday, you guys want the spoilers today after I watch Smackdown?

King Booker is a great champion, it's about time he got the belt.

The best Diva is Layla,

DX will last up untill Syrvivor Series when some type of nWo storyline takes place.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

King Booker is a great champion, it's about time he got the belt.

The best Diva is Layla,

DX will last up untill Syrvivor Series when some type of nWo storyline takes place.

i agree

[GoRapz]

anyone here want the spoilers for smackdown?

[The Italian]

I'm glad that Booker finally got the title. However he will probaly just be losing it to Batista at Summer Slam.

I think the best diva search contestant is JT.

I hope DX will last for a long time but I don't think that they will last too long. Survior Series will be the absolute latest.

[HALLandOATES]

Vince is brining nWo back for th same reason he brought them in 02' and that is to kill DX. Remember he brought them in 02' to kill WWF the company he created. Thats the way the feud with Michaels and him will Finally end after more then a year. Plus this help because DX just fighting Mcmahnons and Spirit Squad is getting reallly REALLY old.

[GoRapz]

how exactly will nWo end DX? :confusedshrug:

[The Italian]

What do you guys think of Jeff Hardy coming back to WWE. I am so excited to see him back. He was my favourite wrestler when he was with WWE before and he was my favourite in TNA. Move over Randy Orton, The Italian has a new favourite wrestler in WWE.

[MadeFromDust]

What do you guys think of Booker T having the World Heavyweight Title?I think it sux. He ain't for real. Because of his behind-the-scenes brawl he had w/ Batista, I bet he's just there to bring more hype to Batista's recrowning.

[GoRapz]

What do you guys think of Vito, the dress wearing guy, seems pretty disgusting to me, and i'd def. wouldnt wanna get in the ring with him, esspecially with his submission finisher :wtf:

Also, does anyone know how long JBL will be at the announce table for?

[GoRapz]

What do you guys think of Jeff Hardy coming back to WWE. I am so excited to see him back. He was my favourite wrestler when he was with WWE before and he was my favourite in TNA. Move over Randy Orton, The Italian has a new favourite wrestler in WWE.

Is he coming to Smackdown or Raw? It sucks to see how Matt Hardy is used nowadays, he's basically a rag doll for any new guys. I thought that was Scottie 2 Hottie's and Funaki's job.

[HALLandOATES]

What do you guys think of Vito, the dress wearing guy, seems pretty disgusting to me, and i'd def. wouldnt wanna get in the ring with him, esspecially with his submission finisher Yea no shlt , this act is pretty sad........This is a last ditch attempt with this guy,I see him gone pretty soon.


I can't wait for Dxs next member though.....Damn when will it happen and who will it be.

[MadeFromDust]

Whatever happened to that Matt Hardy - Ashley thing? And what about Melina's suit against Batista for "SEXUAL? ASSAULT!"? And the Boogeyman and Benoit's return?

[GoRapz]

Whatever happened to that Matt Hardy - Ashley thing? And what about Melina's suit against Batista for "SEXUAL? ASSAULT!"? And the Boogeyman and Benoit's return?

i know that boogeyman won't be back until like probably a few months, but im not sure :confusedshrug: and benoit doesnt have a return date yet but it's sopposed to be "soon".

oh and btw, if the Carlito-Trish thing is real, Carlito's a lucky ass bastard.

[MadeFromDust]

Boogeyman, Benoit, and Mark Henry are all in the SummerSlam promo
oh and btw, if the Carlito-Trish thing is real, Carlito's a lucky ass bastard.It's just a marriage of convenience.

Oh, and I've seen that Melina has eyes for him too, so look out.

What ever happened to that fantastic mixed tag-team duo Gorgeous George and Ambiguous Amber? :confusedshrug:

[GoRapz]

Boogeyman, Benoit, and Mark Henry are all in the SummerSlam promoIt's just a marriage of convenience.

Oh, and I've seen that Melina has eyes for him too, so look out.

What ever happened to that fantastic mixed tag-team duo Gorgeous George and Ambiguous Amber? :confusedshrug:


Don't know, but what happened to "The D.cks"?? :roll: remember those guys? haha

[jrrp321]

when is the rock going to make a comeback or atleast wrestle a few times

[The Italian]

when is the rock going to make a comeback or atleast wrestle a few times

He hurt himself on set of one of his movies so he won't be back for a while.

[dab0yech0]

my favorite girl from the diva search is melina rouka she has the best face out of all the girls and the perfect color skin. that girl is sexy id wife her

[The Italian]

Don't know, but what happened to "The D.cks"?? :roll: remember those guys? haha

Those guys were awsome. They got released from WWE.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

i hope the rock comes back

[dab0yech0]

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Milena Roucka, my choice for the diva search. Shes way hotter than any of the divas they have now.

[Abruzzi]

Until the Rock or Stone Cold come back WWE will never be the same.

[2LeTTeRS KD]

Every time the WWE takes a step forward they take 2 backwards. I like Booker as a champion, but the King Booker **** is annoying. I like DX, but they aren't being used right. The Flair-Foley feud is entertaining. I've grown to like, or at least accept Cena and Orton, but they are not even using Angle and RVD anymore. The Skirt-wearing man bit is old, the Spirit Squad is as unentertaining as it gets, and Finlay's little bastard is just a waste of time among other things. They also need to give a bigger push to Hardy and Lashley, and it seems that now Misterio is going from champion to back to mid-carder in a matter of weeks. Basically I watch b/c I have DVR and can rewind past the ***** I dont like, and have been a wrestling fan since birth but they do need to up the quality a little.

[GoRapz]

When is Chris Jericho coming back?

[PureElement]

Everything WWE related goes in this thread.

What do you guys think of Booker T having the World Heavyweight Title?

Who do you guys think is the hottest diva search contestent left? who do you guys think should leave?

How long do you guys think DX will last for??


BTW, over here in Canada, they show Smackdown on Thursdays while I think you americans get it on Friday, you guys want the spoilers today after I watch Smackdown?

I never understood why we get it on thursdays.

[The Italian]

What happened on RAW tonight? Was it any good? I went out and I didnt' watch it.

[Skywalker]

Milena Roucka, my choice for the diva search. Shes way hotter than any of the divas they have now.

I think Rebecca DiPietro was hotter but she got knocked WAY too soon.


What happened on RAW tonight? Was it any good? I went out and I didnt' watch it.

It was in Memphis, Tennesee so at the start of the show Shane and Vince did this disgusting Elvis impersonation that made me want to throw the remote at the screen.

The first match was Trish vs. Mickie for the women's title but before they even started Edge and Lita came out and told them to get the F out of the ring basically.

So Mickie left but he made Trish stay and got all mad at her because she was on the new WWE magazine instead of him. So Trish smacked Lita and started beatin on her but then Edge grabbed her and put her in position to get speared by Lita. Then Carlito came out and got speared by Edge.

That set up a mixed tag match later which Lita and Edge won. Trish got speared HUGE by Edge by accident. I thought she was cracked in half, she folded up like a book.

Then uhhh, Cena came out and gave a speech ending in "COME GET SOME" as always but then Coachman came out and told him he has to wrestle someone right now. And Viscera's music starts playing and Cena has to pretend he's scared of that big lug of sh!t.

Cena won the match by F U'ing Viscera and it was legit. Viscera didn't jump Cena just straight lifted Viscera off his feet.

uhhhh, Erica Chevillar got booted from the divasearch.

Ric Flair came out and WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'd his way to a match that Foley finally agreed to at Summerslam. An "I quit" match. So it's finally time for one of these geezers to leave the biz.

What else? um, HBK got booted form the arena for smackin a police officer by accident. So Triple H had to face Umaga without HBK ringside. Even though Umaga had The McMahon's and ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEJJANDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO ESTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAADDDDAAAAA! at ringside.

Oh yeah I forgot Kane beat the hell out of Shelton Benjamin in a Number One contender's match for the IC title.

Oh yeah and Lawler got PIZZZOWNED by Orton in his home town. He got kicked in the jewels. Even though he looked in pretty good shape compared to most of the old fat legends that come back. RKO!!

The n before the HHH vs. Umaga match they played a JEff HArdy promo and I almost pissed my pants because I thought he was gonna come out to the ring but then it said "Jeff Hardy Coming Soon".

Then Triple H lost to Umaga who he would have killed if the McMahon's weren't ringisde.

Umaga SUCKS. Why doesn't everyone just start sticking their thumbs in people's throats? For someone that's undefeated and supposed to be so physical and beastly he sure has a played out finisher. He should have some huge slam or something, not a THUMB IN YOUR NECK WTF?

I think thats it.

[GoRapz]

I can't believe how much they degraded Triple H last night. I wish HHH would of pedigree'd the hell outta Umaga and then beat the crap outta Shane and Vince.

[dab0yech0]

Isnt Umaga the same guy that used to be that ridiculous sidekick Rosie who was with the Hurricane? just horrible for HHH to lose to him

[GoRapz]

Isnt Umaga the same guy that used to be that ridiculous sidekick Rosie who was with the Hurricane? just horrible for HHH to lose to him

is that really him? You just reminded me of that, oh my. is it really him though? :roll:

[GoRapz]

damn, Trish is leaving WWE sometime in September. She's mad hot.

[The Italian]

I think Rebecca DiPietro was hotter but she got knocked WAY too soon.



It was in Memphis, Tennesee so at the start of the show Shane and Vince did this disgusting Elvis impersonation that made me want to throw the remote at the screen.

The first match was Trish vs. Mickie for the women's title but before they even started Edge and Lita came out and told them to get the F out of the ring basically.

So Mickie left but he made Trish stay and got all mad at her because she was on the new WWE magazine instead of him. So Trish smacked Lita and started beatin on her but then Edge grabbed her and put her in position to get speared by Lita. Then Carlito came out and got speared by Edge.

That set up a mixed tag match later which Lita and Edge won. Trish got speared HUGE by Edge by accident. I thought she was cracked in half, she folded up like a book.

Then uhhh, Cena came out and gave a speech ending in "COME GET SOME" as always but then Coachman came out and told him he has to wrestle someone right now. And Viscera's music starts playing and Cena has to pretend he's scared of that big lug of sh!t.

Cena won the match by F U'ing Viscera and it was legit. Viscera didn't jump Cena just straight lifted Viscera off his feet.

uhhhh, Erica Chevillar got booted from the divasearch.

Ric Flair came out and WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'd his way to a match that Foley finally agreed to at Summerslam. An "I quit" match. So it's finally time for one of these geezers to leave the biz.

What else? um, HBK got booted form the arena for smackin a police officer by accident. So Triple H had to face Umaga without HBK ringside. Even though Umaga had The McMahon's and ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEJJANDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO ESTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAADDDDAAAAA! at ringside.

Oh yeah I forgot Kane beat the hell out of Shelton Benjamin in a Number One contender's match for the IC title.

Oh yeah and Lawler got PIZZZOWNED by Orton in his home town. He got kicked in the jewels. Even though he looked in pretty good shape compared to most of the old fat legends that come back. RKO!!

The n before the HHH vs. Umaga match they played a JEff HArdy promo and I almost pissed my pants because I thought he was gonna come out to the ring but then it said "Jeff Hardy Coming Soon".

Then Triple H lost to Umaga who he would have killed if the McMahon's weren't ringisde.

Umaga SUCKS. Why doesn't everyone just start sticking their thumbs in people's throats? For someone that's undefeated and supposed to be so physical and beastly he sure has a played out finisher. He should have some huge slam or something, not a THUMB IN YOUR NECK WTF?

I think thats it.

Ok thanks for the recap.

PS Umaga is not Rosey. He is Rosey's partner from 3 Minute Warning. His name was Jamal back then. I agree that Umaga sucks I hate him.

[West-Side]

That Asian girl isn't that attractive at all (face wise), she does have the best body though...I'd smash that in a heart beat.

[MadeFromDust]

That Sabu vs Angle match was a classic until RVD jumped in and interfered, ending it as a No Contest. :rolleyes:

[Skywalker]

Anybody that got the ECW show, did they play the Jeff HArdy promo?

[wally_world]

Anybody that got the ECW show, did they play the Jeff HArdy promo?

YES!!! He's back!!! yipee!!!

[The Italian]

What is your favourite show? Raw, Smackdown or ECW? Mine is Smackdown for when I want to watch some wrestling. If I want to be entertained then I will watch Raw. I don't get ECW here so I don't know about it.

[jrrp321]

ok a few comments and questions....

wow i watched smackdown the other night for the first time in probably a few years back when it was on thursdays... that king booka stuff is ridiculous.. probably some of the worst acting i've seen ever

Batista better beat the living crap out of him at summerslam

Now RAW is where it's at... John Cena i think is probably one of the most exciting wrestlers to watch and i love watching ric flair backhand people but it will never be the same without stone cold and the rock

Now a few questions... do the wrestlers have contracts for either raw or smackdown.. say if batista wanted to wrestle on raw would he be able to or is he stuck to smackdown? and what is this whole ecw thing? how is it tied into wwe if they do not have the same name? i'm a little confused on that? and does anybody know anything about stone cold cause i really don't want to miss that if he stops by for any raw episodes in the near future

[GoRapz]

What is your favourite show? Raw, Smackdown or ECW? Mine is Smackdown for when I want to watch some wrestling. If I want to be entertained then I will watch Raw. I don't get ECW here so I don't know about it.

I liked Smackdown the best when Brock Lesnar was still on it, ever since then, the show has gone downfall.

Raw is the best for me right now

and yeah, i dont get ECW either.

[KnicksFan4Life]

What is your favourite show? Raw, Smackdown or ECW? Mine is Smackdown for when I want to watch some wrestling. If I want to be entertained then I will watch Raw. I don't get ECW here so I don't know about it.

Smackdown is where its at. I don't like ECW because whenever a certain person is about to lose, Paul MOTHER ****ING Hayman pulls the ref out of the ring. The matches would be better if he hung himself.

[The Italian]

Smackdown is where its at. I don't like ECW because whenever a certain person is about to lose, Paul MOTHER ****ING Hayman pulls the ref out of the ring. The matches would be better if he hung himself.

What has ECW been like? We don't get it in Canada.

[Skywalker]

italian i could get links for you to download it if you want, takes like 5 mins on a good comp and then you can watch it

[The Italian]

italian i could get links for you to download it if you want, takes like 5 mins on a good comp and then you can watch it

Thanks a lot Skywalker.

[B-Low]

Isnt Umaga the same guy that used to be that ridiculous sidekick Rosie who was with the Hurricane? just horrible for HHH to lose to him

Nah Umaga is actually Jamal, the one who used to tag team with Rosie. Remember they were that old team 3 Minute Warning?

[KingLeBronJames]

They should just cancel Smackdown. ECW is out performing Smackdown. No more of the Raw Vs. Smackdown crap. Make it into WWE Vs. ECW.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

They should just cancel Smackdown. ECW is out performing Smackdown. No more of the Raw Vs. Smackdown crap. Make it into WWE Vs. ECW.
Agreed.

[dab0yech0]

damn milena roucka got eliminated from the diva search, she was the hottest one there. i guess now i gotta cheer for layla or jt

[Skywalker]

Rebecca was the hottest one actually. Leave it to America to eliminate the best one by far so early.

Italian I will get you link to download the one that happens tonight.

[GoRapz]

they should have just eliminated Layla, she's weak man (as in ugly). She should have been eliminated awhile ago. How does Milena get less of the votes? she's a beauty. I'm going for JT to win it now.

[dab0yech0]

they should have just eliminated Layla, she's weak man (as in ugly). She should have been eliminated awhile ago. How does Milena get less of the votes? she's a beauty. I'm going for JT to win it now.

layla has a nice body and its probaly cuz shes the only dark skinned girl left. she isnt that bad i think JTs the hottest one left followed by layla and then that other girl. but damn milena should have won it all. im more into brunettes because all blondes look the same

[dab0yech0]

oh yeah anyone know whos goin to be in nwo? does anyone here go to any forums about wrestling that are similar to insidehoops?

[GoRapz]

oh yeah anyone know whos goin to be in nwo? does anyone here go to any forums about wrestling that are similar to insidehoops?

I just go to www.prowrestlingnews.com which will lead you to another site that has tons of WWE rumors and what not. Don't know if there are forums.

Last I heard about nWo is that it might not even happen because most of the guys are on freaking TNA.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

They should just cancel Smackdown. ECW is out performing Smackdown. No more of the Raw Vs. Smackdown crap. Make it into WWE Vs. ECW.
ECW has better action than Raw and Smackdown combined.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Smackdown sucks actually WWE sucks now since Austin, The Rock, Hogan, Foley all retired and when the roster split began.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Smackdown sucks actually WWE sucks now since Austin, The Rock, Hogan, Foley all retired and when the roster split began.
Yeah...I wonder when is the WWE gonna end that damn roster split. It sucks. I wanna see matches like The Undertaker Vs. Triple H or something.

[dab0yech0]

I just go to www.prowrestlingnews.com which will lead you to another site that has tons of WWE rumors and what not. Don't know if there are forums.

Last I heard about nWo is that it might not even happen because most of the guys are on freaking TNA.

thanks. so they did they dx over nwo poster for nothing?

[B-Low]

I think the DX/NWO poster was just made by some fan using photoshop

[schyza]

There was already WWE VS ECW before WWE split into 2 different rosters. I remember the good old days when there was WWE aka WWF and there was no difference between RAW and SmackDowns rosters the wrestlers didn

[mika]

jeff hardy should go to smackdown because smackdown is really sucking now a days.

[dab0yech0]

[QUOTE=schyza]There was already WWE VS ECW before WWE split into 2 different rosters. I remember the good old days when there was WWE aka WWF and there was no difference between RAW and SmackDowns rosters the wrestlers didn

[Skywalker]

jeff hardy should go to smackdown because smackdown is really sucking now a days.

He's goin to RAW, is official.

And to who ever said JT Tinney is hot I completely disagree, I havemt liked her since day one, I dont see how peopel find her hot, she looks like a retard and is absolutely brainless

[KingLeBronJames]

Ecw Main Event Tonight! Rob Van Dam Vs. Kurt Angle Vs. Sabu In A #1 Contenders Triple Threat Ladder Match For The Ecw World Heavyweight Championship

[B-Low]

I'm watchin ECW right now...main event is coming up. RVD/Sabu ladder match (it got changed)...should be a damn good match!

[GoRapz]

Man, TSN or TheScore need to buy ECW. I wanna watch this.

[schyza]

I miss XPW too, they were hardcore to the max, guys like Pogo the Clown, Whitetrash Jimmy Webb or something, the gay guy Angel, Johnny the bum, and all their divas were hot too. I think most of the divas were ex porn stars but they also had Major Gunns and a few other ones. Didnt the owner Rob Black and his hot wife go to jail for something?


White trash Jimmy Webb that dude rocked and there was Sabu and The Sandman The Black Army. The divas were not ex-porn stars they were current porn stars from Vivid. But Rob Black and his wife didn

[bonez26]

I dont see how peopel find her hot, she looks like a retard and is absolutely brainless

JT is hot...but that black chick has the best moves.

[GoRapz]

Diva Search Finalists are on today at 10:00ET over here in Canada.

[The Italian]

Diva Search Finalists are on today at 10:00ET over here in Canada.

Is it on The Score?

[dab0yech0]

[QUOTE=schyza]White trash Jimmy Webb that dude rocked and there was Sabu and The Sandman The Black Army. The divas were not ex-porn stars they were current porn stars from Vivid. But Rob Black and his wife didn

[dab0yech0]

Heres a couple of videos I found of XPW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T978CWYBs9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkD6FG0eXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7kTcgyeKfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kndINpLT-Go&mode=related&search=

SUpreme vs Messiah in a kingof thedeathmatch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xiVgQ5HjXM

theres tons more on youtube

[UCLAlegend32]

XpW was the s*!%

[The Italian]

What diva search contestant do you think will win? I think Leyla will but I want JT to.

[GoRapz]

The Italian - It's on TheScore

I want JT to win.

[Attila]

The Italian - It's on TheScore

I want JT to win.
Ditto.

[GoRapz]

There goes JT, the hottest girl left.

Looks like Layla's going to win it.

[MadeFromDust]

I don't know man Layla's got the confidence and good looks, but that blonde chick kinda grows on you she's f'n hawt!! Did I just say that? Oops!! :hammerhead:

[GoRapz]

Todd Grisham is a lucky ass bastard :cry:

[GoRapz]

Congratz to Layla :cheers:

Her body really grows onto me. I wanna see a playboy edition of her :pimp:

[UCLAlegend32]

layla is a goddess im glad she won. ima sleep well tonite and many others cus of this.

[The Italian]

I wish that JT had won. I am not really impressed with Leyla. I would rather Jen had won. I am dissapointed that JT didn't win.

[Skywalker]

JT is illiterate I think. She always stutters when she speaks. She's the typical all boobs no brains chick.

Layal and Jen were both better an Jen will probably still get a contract.

[The Italian]

What is everybody's favourite matches?

Mine are the TLC matches between The Hardyz, Dudleyz and E and C.

[GoRapz]

Smackdown @ 8PM ET on TheScore today.

Just a reminder for my fellow Canadians.

[The Italian]

Smackdown @ 8PM ET on TheScore today.

Just a reminder for my fellow Canadians.


I might miss it tonight. If I do could you fill me in on what happens?

[GoRapz]

I might miss it tonight. If I do could you fill me in on what happens?

sure, that's what this thread is for. WWE talk, if you miss it im sure I can fill you in.

[The Italian]

sure, that's what this thread is for. WWE talk, if you miss it im sure I can fill you in.

Ok thanks man.

[GoRapz]

Undertaker vs Khali

Last Man Standing Match

I cannot miss this match tonight!

[GoRapz]

Chris Masters has been off WWE TV for several weeks as a result of a failed "Wellness" drug test. It was reported that Masters tested positive for muscle-enhancing drugs, rumored to be anabolic steroids. Last night, Masters made his return to the ring at a TV taping for OVW. After sitting out his suspension and getting off the performance enhancing drugs, Masters' appearance has changed drastically - to the point where it would be impossible to keep his "Masterpiece" gimmick.

[PureElement]

First time watching a full wrestling match in 2 years, and damn what a great match. Even though none of the punches looked real, the atmosphere when Undertaker won that match was just awesome. Smackdown >>> Raw.

[MadeFromDust]

I don't understand why they did that match early and Lashley vs F'nley for the umpteenth time last

[GoRapz]

that Undertaker-Khali match was an amazing match. One of the greatest i've seen all year.

[The Italian]

That was a very entertaining match between Taker and Khali. I wonder whats going to happen next with Khali. Do you think he will stick around with WWE or do you think they will get rid of him? They are scared to let him fight on live tv after all.

[GoRapz]

Good news guys, I just read WWE is not planning to end DX at summerslam.

[GoRapz]

Source: WrestlingObserver.com

-- Mick Foley has creative control for his match with Ric Flair. That might produce an unintuitive outcome, however, as both Foley and Flair have expressed a desire to lose the match.

-- Big Show will likely retain his title in a short match. There was a rumor of Kurt Angle getting involved in the bout, but no new details have emerged.

-- WWE is not planning to end the DeGeneration X angle at Summerslam.

-- Prior to suffering his knee injury, Hulk Hogan, due to his creative control, was to go over Randy Orton. Although there's been absolutely no confirmation that the planned outcome was changed, some believe Hogan might instead opt to lose by putting over the injury as too hard to overcome.

-- The plan has long been to give Cena the belt back in front of his hometown crowd. But, even if that idea is nixed, note that by the end of his program with Edge (which will go through Unforgiven), he will be WWE Champion again.

[Skywalker]

Man that Khali match was awful. Are you guys ok? That guy couldnt wrestle or talk in a mic if his life depended on it. They took his match and put it on SD! so they could do major editing. As opposed to live at Summerslam where he would be exposed as nothing but a giant piece of crap.

Hardy returns Monday thats awesome.

Masters is supposed to be fired isnt he? Hardy got fired the first time for using drugs but Masters gets a second shot?

[GoRapz]

Masters is back on OVW.

Anyways, I thought all the Wrestlers here use Steroids?

[The Italian]

What is your predictions for Summerslam?

Cena beats Edge via DQ

Batista beats King Booker via pinfall

Foley beats Flair via Flair quitting

Big Show beats Sabu via pinfall

Hogan beats Orton via pinfall ( Hogan is to much of a baby and he never agrees to lose)

Mysterio beats Chavo- via pinfall

I can't think of the other match. There is one more right?

[The Italian]

How could I have forgotten DX vs. McMahons? Well I think DX will win via pinfall.


Chavo beat Rey from interference by Vickie Guerrero.

Big Show beat Sabu by pinfall after a chokeslam.

Hogan beat Orton after Orton gave Hogan the RKO and Hogan got his foot on the ropes then he did his hulk up, 3 punches, big boot and tehn leg drop. Does anybody else think that Hogan should have let Orton beat him? He needs to realize that he is finished and let the new generation take over.

[The Italian]

Flair beat Foley in the I Quit match. Flair was going to hit Melina with a wepon or somthing so Foley said I Quit to prevent it. Flair wins!

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

flair beat foley? dammn wtf is going on

[The Italian]

Batista beat King booker. It was by DQ though so Booker is still the champion.

[The Italian]

Edge beat Cena. Lita gave Edge brass knuckles and when Cena went to give Edge the FU, Lita jumped on his back. Cena gave Lita the FU and while the ref was attending to her Edge hit Cena with the brass knucks and pinned him.

[GoRapz]

Thanks Italian, I like that you're giving us some coverage over here for the guys that don't got satellite (myself)

[GoRapz]

Full SummerSlam Coverage for anyone who wants it, it's good for those who didn't get to watch it.

WWE SummerSlam Opener:

SummerSlam opened up with a video package looking at the top matches on the card tonight. We

[GoRapz]

Backstage:

King Booker is shown backstage. Queen Sharmell comes in and asks what he contemplates on this glorious evening. Booker said that Smackdown has become a much better place since he became the ruler of it, and it is imperative that he beats the peasant Batista tonight, and they return to Smackdown as the most powerful couple in Sport

[GoRapz]

Backstage:

Mick Foley is backstage. Melina comes up and gives him a hug and asks if he is ready for the match. Foley said he

[GoRapz]

The Aftermath:

Booker gave Batista a heel kick to the jaw but then Batista caught him in the spinebuster and went for the Batista Bomb, and scored with it. The fans booed the ending.

Backstage:

DX are shown in the back and they are talking to someone. They said that they would never start anything with him, and they are telling the guy that Vince called Umaga the baddest monster in WWE. They went outside the locker room and whoever they were talking to is throwing stuff around inside. DX looked pleased with their actions, and it looks like they have got themselves some back up incase Umaga involves himself tonight.

Referee: Michael Chioda
D-Generation X vs. The McMahon

[Bourne]

I knew it would be kane coming out. Did his music play when he came out?

That would be freaking sweet, Kane is the ****. Wonder why he doesn't get used more.

[jrrp321]

i would have loved to see stone cold come out in the dx match while the mcmahons were using everybody to wear down dx in the beginning..... and he just comes out and beats the living crap out of both of them.......... the crowd would have gone nuts.. stone cold needs to come back

[indenial]

i would have loved to see stone cold come out in the dx match while the mcmahons were using everybody to wear down dx in the beginning..... and he just comes out and beats the living crap out of both of them.......... the crowd would have gone nuts.. stone cold needs to come back

that would have been sweet but if Randy the Macho man came out and suplexed the Iron sheik and then the honky tonk man hit Rowdy Piper over the head with a chair while the hulkster was beatin the crap out of the Ultimate Warrior. and down the way the Million dollar man was getting choked out buy the hacksaw Jim Duggan that would give Andre the Giant just enough time to take the microphone from Mean Gene and declare himself the champion of the world.:rockon:

[9spurs]

I heard Jeff Hardy is returing tonight

[dab0yech0]

Hey GoRapz thanks for the results. I just hope Kane doesnt join DX, that would be the worst storyline in wrestling history. It was bad enough back then when they made masked Kane talk with that device.

[LALakerFan4Life]

The 9/11 airing of Raw will take place alongside that week's ECW taping in Madison Square Garden, the world's most famous arena.

This got me thinking about where ECW was and where it is. From Bingo Halls to MSG.

Do you guys think it's a step up, or a step down? Both in terms of quality and success. A lot of hardcore ECW fans will obviously tell you that this is a complete disfigurement of what ECW used to be and that Paul Heyman is a sellout, but the man was and is a businessman whose ultimate goal was to put hardcore, unconventional wrestling on the map. He did that, and now he has to modify it to entertainment to make ECW a household name. I think it's fair, and even if I was an idealist I would think that being able to hold any show in MSG is well worth having to sacrifice the rougher elements in my program.

What do you guys think? And what do you think of the idea of ECW in MSG itself?

[KingLeBronJames]

The 9/11 airing of Raw will take place alongside that week's ECW taping in Madison Square Garden, the world's most famous arena.

This got me thinking about where ECW was and where it is. From Bingo Halls to MSG.

Do you guys think it's a step up, or a step down? Both in terms of quality and success. A lot of hardcore ECW fans will obviously tell you that this is a complete disfigurement of what ECW used to be and that Paul Heyman is a sellout, but the man was and is a businessman whose ultimate goal was to put hardcore, unconventional wrestling on the map. He did that, and now he has to modify it to entertainment to make ECW a household name. I think it's fair, and even if I was an idealist I would think that being able to hold any show in MSG is well worth having to sacrifice the rougher elements in my program.

What do you guys think? And what do you think of the idea of ECW in MSG itself?

I don't want to see it in any big arena, but if it has to be I'd rather it be in the Garden where the ECW originals will get proper reactions and Mike Knox will get X-Pac heat.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

The 9/11 airing of Raw will take place alongside that week's ECW taping in Madison Square Garden, the world's most famous arena.

This got me thinking about where ECW was and where it is. From Bingo Halls to MSG.

Do you guys think it's a step up, or a step down? Both in terms of quality and success. A lot of hardcore ECW fans will obviously tell you that this is a complete disfigurement of what ECW used to be and that Paul Heyman is a sellout, but the man was and is a businessman whose ultimate goal was to put hardcore, unconventional wrestling on the map. He did that, and now he has to modify it to entertainment to make ECW a household name. I think it's fair, and even if I was an idealist I would think that being able to hold any show in MSG is well worth having to sacrifice the rougher elements in my program.

What do you guys think? And what do you think of the idea of ECW in MSG itself?

I am reminded a little bit of the Jimmy Buffet song "Gypsies in the Palace."

But, hey, it's in New York. And "ECW" on the marquee in the Gardens? Sounds pretty cool to me. There will, of course, be a few ECW old school fans who say "big arenas weren't what ECW was about," but if anyone really remembers the atmosphere back then, ECW's constant goal was to go from a bigger stage, to a bigger stage. Didn't Heyman once want to run a Death Match show in Shea Stadium? I fail to see how this isn't any less of an accomplishment.

With that said, it's a bittersweet victory -- because it all comes from the WWE machine. Still, there is something to be said for being damn proud about throwing a damn good party in your parent's house, and that's what ECW has a chance to do.

The only fear that I have is that if the NYC crowd takes to ECW more than RAW, there's going to be a whole mess of agents in the back talking about "RAW looking weak" and then god only knows how ECW could suffer.

[LALakerFan4Life]

With it being on the East Coast odds are ECW will be taped first. And it wouldn't shock me in the least if Triple H and Stephanie McMahon make sure ECW doesn't do anything too cool (not that they do now) and tire out the crowd before Trips comes out on RAW.

[TMacYaoRockets]

The thing some people don't think about is this. ECW could not continue anyways with the way they were running all those years in the 90's. Sooner or later, it would have had to garner bigger ratings, and a larger audience in order for them to keep working and in order for them to get paid. If you wanted ECW to stick around, then they would have had to get bigger. No doubt about it.

But the reason why this is now sort of tainted is because it really hasn't gotten bigger. It's just being pushed onto new people in larger arenas by a major wrestling promotion in the WWE.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

The thing some people don't think about is this. ECW could not continue anyways with the way they were running all those years in the 90's. Sooner or later, it would have had to garner bigger ratings, and a larger audience in order for them to keep working and in order for them to get paid. If you wanted ECW to stick around, then they would have had to get bigger. No doubt about it.

But the reason why this is now sort of tainted is because it really hasn't gotten bigger. It's just being pushed onto new people in larger arenas by a major wrestling promotion in the WWE.

I'd say it's got bigger to an extent. The Rise and Fall of ECW DVD and frequent mentions on WWE TV have generated a lot of interest in the history of the company amongst fans who probably barely knew of its existence beforehand. While this does stem from the WWE's media machine, it still means that more people have an interest in ECW, both in what it was and what it is today.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

ECW in MSG will be strange. It annoys me that the WWE will probably hype how such a small company made it to MSG in some way, when really it was no work of the actual ECW to achieve such a feat.

[DirkLegend41]

Huge step up. Madison Square Garden is THE US arena, especially for wrestlers who work in the northeast...

MSG is the best possible place for ECW...


It annoys me that the WWE will probably hype how such a small company made it to MSG in some way, when really it was no work of the actual ECW to achieve such a feat.

Lies. This is all a chain reation stemming from the ECW boom, caused by the Rise & Fall of ECW DVD. Had the DVD featuring the "Indy ECW" not been such a monumental success, "Corporate ECW" wouldn't exist today...

[LALakerFan4Life]

I wonder if they'll be able to fill the arena for both shows. It'd be interesting to see how a Raw crowd reacts to an ECW show. Smackdown! crowds suck BAD and are usually clueless or ignorant of anything going on in the ring.

Man, a packed MSG crowd for an ECW show.

RVD/Sabu botching will be magnified a thousand times more.

[KingsFan416]

With it being on the East Coast odds are ECW will be taped first. And it wouldn't shock me in the least if Triple H and Stephanie McMahon make sure ECW doesn't do anything too cool (not that they do now) and tire out the crowd before Trips comes out on RAW.

I wonder if anything will happen between C.M. Punk and HBK/HHH backstage.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

I wonder if anything will happen between C.M. Punk and HBK/HHH backstage.

EXCELLENT question. Seriously though, I guess I could see HHH and HBK pulling something if it was ten years ago, and Punk reacting negatively if it was two years ago -- but things have really changed with all three of them, as people. Punk's not as hotheaded, HBK is not as likely to start ****, and Triple H is...well, he's more cunning when he wants to bury someone.

So, my guess is, nothing will come of it. However, I have to say, it would make me feel like a proud father [funny, I know] if Punk shows up in front of the MSG crowd and pops the hell out of them. Then, "DX" could put that in their pipe and smoke it.

Which brings me to something that I forgot to mention earlier -- rumor and history says Vince McMahon has always relied heavily on the MSG crowd for the direction of the company, and to gauge how well things are getting over. A strong showing in the Garden could be a big boost for the new brand. Sadly, if it goes poorly, Vince could have an XFL level anxiety attack.

Either way, this looks like it's going to be a history making night.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Hbk And Hhh Will Whoop That Azz

[LALakerFan4Life]

EXCELLENT question. Seriously though, I guess I could see HHH and HBK pulling something if it was ten years ago, and Punk reacting negatively if it was two years ago -- but things have really changed with all three of them, as people. Punk's not as hotheaded, HBK is not as likely to start ****, and Triple H is...well, he's more cunning when he wants to bury someone.

So, my guess is, nothing will come of it. However, I have to say, it would make me feel like a proud father [funny, I know] if Punk shows up in front of the MSG crowd and pops the hell out of them. Then, "DX" could put that in their pipe and smoke it.

Which brings me to something that I forgot to mention earlier -- rumor and history says Vince McMahon has always relied heavily on the MSG crowd for the direction of the company, and to gauge how well things are getting over. A strong showing in the Garden could be a big boost for the new brand. Sadly, if it goes poorly, Vince could have an XFL level anxiety attack.

Either way, this looks like it's going to be a history making night.

I encourage boos. The crowds on Raw have been popping for all the wrong things lately, and encourage Vince to pull **** like D-Generation X out of his ass.

I doubt MSG will boo DX, but they really should.

As for Punk/HHH/HBK, I really hope they do try to start ****, and someone big/bigger like Heyman or John Cena or even Shane McMahon comes in to defend him. It'll draw the battle lines for a generational backstage showdown. It'll be awesome.

[DetroitPistonFan]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they booed DX, Cena and Eugene heavily.
I hope the crowd is hyper, nuts, and sticks it to em live.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

Frankly, if DX continue to be less funny and more serious, which HBK has eluded to in numerous recent articles, then there's no reason to boo DX. Well, actually, if DX continue to be serious and get involved with younger talent they can give a rub too, then there's no reason to boo them.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Frankly, if DX continue to be less funny and more serious, which HBK has eluded to in numerous recent articles, then there's no reason to boo DX. Well, actually, if DX continue to be serious and get involved with younger talent they can give a rub too, then there's no reason to boo them.

Serious how? The whole appeal of D-Generation X WAS their hijinx and general chicanery... if they give that up just to be a 'serious stable' all the energy will be sapped out of them.

The reason the 'humor' doesn't work now is because it's juvenile and stupid. They should just give it up now if they want to go in a different direction than humor.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

I like the ideas myself. I just hope a lot of the ECW originals make it on the card for the show. They are the ones that really deserve.

Me, I would really like to see (even though it's way early, but it would be a nice tease) a CM Punk/Rob Van Dam confrontation. Punk could easily make a few smart assed drug references to RVD.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

I like the ideas myself. I just hope a lot of the ECW originals make it on the card for the show. They are the ones that really deserve.

Me, I would really like to see (even though it's way early, but it would be a nice tease) a CM Punk/Rob Van Dam confrontation. Punk could easily make a few smart assed drug references to RVD.

I have to say, I would really like this idea -- just because it's one of those angles that Punk can bring his sXe gimmick into, and not sound like he's persecuting the bulk of the ECW locker room [who, wellness policy or not, will forever be known as hard drinking, pill popping freaks. The irony that no one on the ECW brands has flunked said tests notwithstanding.], which would just make us all question why The Sandman didn't take issue with what Punk was saying. In my mind, CM Punk using Rob Van Dam as one of the examples of why he is the way he is great, actual storytelling. It would be awesome, and give us a reason to keep RVD away from the world title a bit.

On to what MSG will boo -- D-Generation X would be great. But personally I hope there is some Mick Foley exposure too and we see what I think has been the case until just last week when for some reason the RAW crowd turned -- that "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair is the actual heel in that match, despite what Foley says. It'd also be nice to hear Vince McMahon get a boring chant. Hell, as long as they don't s*** on The Highlanders, they could please me with just about any reaction to RAW [I'm Robbie!!!]

That said -- reiterating my hope they pop hard for ECW and it's ilk. I know sometimes I sh*t on the new ECW a lot, but I really do want it to succeed, and get as much Vince-rep/support as possible.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

Serious how? The whole appeal of D-Generation X WAS their hijinx and general chicanery... if they give that up just to be a 'serious stable' all the energy will be sapped out of them.

The reason the 'humor' doesn't work now is because it's juvenile and stupid. They should just give it up now if they want to go in a different direction than humor.

No one said NEVER make a joke. The point is they shouldn't be seen as only jokesters. The first month of their run was one joke after another, they need to kick more ass and help eachother cheat to win and the like. The original D-Generation X had a balance, this one doesn't.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

I have to say, I would really like this idea -- just because it's one of those angles that Punk can bring his sXe gimmick into, and not sound like he's persecuting the bulk of the ECW locker room [who, wellness policy or not, will forever be known as hard drinking, pill popping freaks. The irony that no one on the ECW brands has flunked said tests notwithstanding.], which would just make us all question why The Sandman didn't take issue with what Punk was saying. In my mind, CM Punk using Rob Van Dam as one of the examples of why he is the way he is great, actual storytelling. It would be awesome, and give us a reason to keep RVD away from the world title a bit.

On to what MSG will boo -- D-Generation X would be great. But personally I hope there is some Mick Foley exposure too and we see what I think has been the case until just last week when for some reason the RAW crowd turned -- that "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair is the actual heel in that match, despite what Foley says. It'd also be nice to hear Vince McMahon get a boring chant. Hell, as long as they don't **** on The Highlanders, they could please me with just about any reaction to RAW [I'm Robbie!!!]

That said -- reiterating my hope they pop hard for ECW and it's ilk. I know sometimes I sh*t on the new ECW a lot, but I really do want it to succeed, and get as much Vince-rep/support as possible.

Thing is, I'd mark for D-Generation X getting boo'ed for the fact that Shawn Michaels and Triple H would likely play off the crowd and make for a much more interesting segment. When is DX going to Canada? I can't wait for that moment, HBK will likely rip the crowd in all his heel glory.

[TMacYaoRockets]

Are they running the straight-edge angle with CM Punk? If so, Punk/RVD and Punk/Sandman are easy to do feuds. Hell, even Punk/Tommy Dreamer has some history to it.

[TMacYaoRockets]

I encourage boos. The crowds on Raw have been popping for all the wrong things lately, and encourage Vince to pull **** like D-Generation X out of his ass.

I doubt MSG will boo DX, but they really should.

As for Punk/HHH/HBK, I really hope they do try to start ****, and someone big/bigger like Heyman or John Cena or even Shane McMahon comes in to defend him. It'll draw the battle lines for a generational backstage showdown. It'll be awesome.

Why would they back down to Paul Heyman or John Cena?

[TMacYaoRockets]

Thing is, I'd mark for D-Generation X getting boo'ed for the fact that Shawn Michaels and Triple H would likely play off the crowd and make for a much more interesting segment. When is DX going to Canada? I can't wait for that moment, HBK will likely rip the crowd in all his heel glory.

They are going to Canada in september..Unforgiven is in Toronto, and the supershow the next night is in Montreal. So ECW, Raw and Smackdown will be live in Montreal.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

I can't wait to see how DX plays with the boos from the crowd. HHH will probably give HBK some fun loving stuff.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

Are they running the straight-edge angle with CM Punk? If so, Punk/RVD and Punk/Sandman are easy to do feuds. Hell, even Punk/Tommy Dreamer has some history to it.

I agree that they're quite easy feuds, but I think they should hold off on Punk/Sandman for a bit, just because The Sandman isn't the best worker in the world, and for him and C.M. Punk to have a match it would have to be violent as hell and probably not for TV. Plus, I think there is a greater gravity to Punk calling out Sandman, and Punk calling out Rob Van Dam. With RVD, it's about RVD losing something huge because of his drug use -- something Punk is working his ass off to get to. But when it's Punk vs Sandman, it's lifestyle choice vs lifestyle choice, and with Punk being the onscreen minority of that choice in ECW, it wouldn't make sense that other talent, just as hard drinking and wild as the Sandman, wouldn't also strike out after Punk in retaliation. I say, save Punk/Sandman for a big PPV blowoff, and for a time when Punk has enough rep in the company to not look like the newbie kid too big for his britches.

But that's just my armchair booking. You're right though -- Sandman and Punk beating the hell out of each other would definitely get me excited.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Why would they back down to Paul Heyman or John Cena?

Because Paul Heyman, even if he isn't an official 'head' of an organization, is still a higher-up in WWE management and has relatively good job security, the same with Cena, who's their most popular face. They both have at least some clout in defending Punk, and even though the 'clique' has huge pull, Vince is still the #1 on everything and will go towards whatever is the better business decision, in this case having Punk represent ECW going forward and not being buried.

[TMacYaoRockets]

I really don't think Heyman has too much authority or high standing within the company. Cena is a major player, but so are HBK and HHH, and combined they may have more clout, and you simply cannot ignore the fact HHH is married into the family now.
I'm sure they could stand up to HHH and HBK, and tell them both they are out of line or off base, but would it truly matter? I would hope that it would.
I just somehow doubt it. Heyman always seems to struggle getting his opinions and ideas to fly with Vince. With Steph being the wife of the game, that complicates stuff even more.

[LALakerFan4Life]

I really don't think Heyman has too much authority or high standing within the company. Cena is a major player, but so are HBK and HHH, and combined they may have more clout, and you simply cannot ignore the fact HHH is married into the family now.
I'm sure they could stand up to HHH and HBK, and tell them both they are out of line or off base, but would it truly matter? I would hope that it would.
I just somehow doubt it. Heyman always seems to struggle getting his opinions and ideas to fly with Vince. With Steph being the wife of the game, that complicates stuff even more.

I don't think the son-in-law thing is as important as a lot of people think it is. Shane seems to be a more 'moderate' guy when it comes to business, and he's high on what seems to be on all the right people. My thinking is that he'll take real charge when Vince passes the torch on, even if HHH does get a share of the business. He's really the key component to this, if he likes what he sees in Punk I don't see The Kliq interfering any further. Vince, while lenient with the people close to him, wouldn't abide by anyone trying to run the business themselves as if he didn't exist. Punk's an important player at this point, he's mega high, higher than really any total rookie that I've seen in a while.

[TMacYaoRockets]

I don't think the son-in-law thing is as important as a lot of people think it is. Shane seems to be a more 'moderate' guy when it comes to business, and he's high on what seems to be on all the right people. My thinking is that he'll take real charge when Vince passes the torch on, even if HHH does get a share of the business. He's really the key component to this, if he likes what he sees in Punk I don't see The Kliq interfering any further. Vince, while lenient with the people close to him, wouldn't abide by anyone trying to run the business themselves as if he didn't exist. Punk's an important player at this point, he's mega high, higher than really any total rookie that I've seen in a while.

Well as I said, I would like to think you'd be right here. I do think Punk would find himself with a fan in Shane, and that cant be a bad thing at all.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

I really appreciate the fact that you guys are booking the backstage scenario for what would really happen at MSG as if it were scripted for television. I'd give you both rep if I could.

[KingsFan416]

I thought I remember reading somewhere that Triple H and/or Shawn Michaels liked CM Punk? Plus, if Punk runs his mouth, he's the rookie in the WWE who needs to watch himself.

And as for all the lovely comments about HHH ruining the ECW show so he gets a good reaction, that is just a load of crybaby garbage. Maybe all of you haven't noticed but over the past few years HHH has been putting over tons of people. And right now he's in a feud with with Vince and Shane where neither team really needs to win, but he and HBK have both taken their fair shares of losses against the McMahons, as well as wins.

Some people need to get over the fact that Triple H is married with Stephenie McMahon, but that's not a factor in him being a big name. He freakin EARNED it. Your little precious baby CM Punk hasn't earned anything and if he starts s!@# backstage, I hope someone knocks him the hell out.

[KingLeBronJames]

I thought I remember reading somewhere that Triple H and/or Shawn Michaels liked CM Punk? Plus, if Punk runs his mouth, he's the rookie in the WWE who needs to watch himself.

And as for all the lovely comments about HHH ruining the ECW show so he gets a good reaction, that is just a load of crybaby garbage. Maybe all of you haven't noticed but over the past few years HHH has been putting over tons of people. And right now he's in a feud with with Vince and Shane where neither team really needs to win, but he and HBK have both taken their fair shares of losses against the McMahons, as well as wins.

Some people need to get over the fact that Triple H is married with Stephenie McMahon, but that's not a factor in him being a big name. He freakin EARNED it. Your little precious baby CM Punk hasn't earned anything and if he starts s!@# backstage, I hope someone knocks him the hell out.

Okay, where to begin -- first off, I don't think you ever heard Triple H and Shawn Michaels being high on C.M. Punk. What you've heard is that Punk is an old-school student of the game, and carries an attitude similiar to HHH.

Now as for Triple H putting over talent, lets see -- Randy Orton's push was buried by him pretty soundly. Triple H gave a series of promos on John Cena that just cemented what a lot of the smarks were saying about him -- that he was a gimmicky joke. Batista was put over by his BUDDY Triple H, to the point that he had to be shuffled to Smackdown. Oh, and then there's the Spirit Squad -- they all looked wonderful after their program with HHH, HBK, and the McMahons. And as for Umaga -- well, sure, I was surprised like everyone that Triple H went down on that one -- especially with all the excuses they padded in, with the McMahon interference and HBK being in jail and such. And then lets add to the fact that the match itself didn't make Umaga look much like the dominating force he's supposed to be [But hell, I'll give them that one, because even I can appreciate that Triple H is up there when it comes to talent, skill, and power].

So yeah, the dude's a regular Mick Foley as far as putting over other talent is concerned.

And finally, if you're read the thread, you'd see that no one was claiming that Punk is going to start something -- since he's actually grateful for how far he's gone. What we're worried about is that Punk's detractors, HHH, HBK, and Arn Anderson, might start some said something, and then who would be there to support the rookie who's closer friends are almost all on the Smackdown brand.

Now, I'll grant you --Triple H has freaking EARNED a great deal of what he has. And Punk is still a WWE rookie, which means everything he's done in the indies officially means squat. But if Triple H is a ass to Punk, it doesn't matter how much of his success is earned -- I hope Punk puts ol' Trips in a front face lock and knees his teeth down his throat like he's Teddy Effin' Hart.

But all this is probably a moot point. Because I honestly think that if Punk is pushed, he'll do the right thing, and put his career before his pride and just walk away. A little grief is more than worth the future that most people see for him.

[LALakerFan4Life]

I'm desperately hoping that somewhere down the line a bunch of guys who are so over that they're untouchable decide to draw battle lines against HHH and co. It'll be the biggest locker room schism since the WCW days and maybe, just maybe, Vince will get it through his thick head that his son in law is one of the worst things possible for business.

I could only dream. But who knows.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

i hate vince's son shane

[KingsFan416]

So you basically want a bunch of guys to just start going against Triple H for everything he and HBK have done for the business? Nice, so you want chaos and to see the WWE go down in flames.

Triple H is one of the best things for the business. He can play the crazy and insane heel that goes nuts with his sledgehammer as the cerebral assassin and he can play the good guy face who is loved by the crowd in DX.

What needs to happen is the new guys need to actually get over with the crowd. Pieces of crap like CM Punk need to EARN the respect from the average WWE fan because they don't care about him and they won't until he does something of importance. Instead of blaming Triple H for holding them back, which he doesn't do, blame them for carrying out their characters poorly or blame the bookers for ****ty gimmicks. Shelton Benjamin is a great wrestler, but he's boring as hell in the ring all the time, pulling out like one flashy move once in a while.

For a while it seemed like the Triple H hate had died down, but even when he's not in the main title picture and he actually didn't want to get into a feud with Edge so early into his main event push that could harm Edge's career in the long run, people seem to whine about it. He and HBK did a good job putting over Umaga. As for last night's antics at Summerslam where they beat up everyone, I was disappointed by that. I was hoping for them to get beat down until Kane came in as a destructive monster and killed everyone to save them, but he just attacked Umaga. But then again, he's been putting over everyone and their brother in the last few years, so he deserved a break in getting the upper hand somewhat in this feud with the McMahons and beating up the Spirit Squad.

Triple H has EARNED his damn spot at the top and he shouldn't have to spend his whole career jobbing now that he's a main star, and people need to get over that. He was starting to come up to the main event back when he wasn't even with Stephanie and it was his charismatic personality that got the crowds to despise him as the cerebral assassin. You can't expect most wrestlers to just show up and automatically be respected by the fans and be mega faces or heels. It takes time.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

So you basically want a bunch of guys to just start going against Triple H for everything he and HBK have done for the business? Nice, so you want chaos and to see the WWE go down in flames.

Triple H is one of the best things for the business. He can play the crazy and insane heel that goes nuts with his sledgehammer as the cerebral assassin and he can play the good guy face who is loved by the crowd in DX.

What needs to happen is the new guys need to actually get over with the crowd. Pieces of crap like CM Punk need to EARN the respect from the average WWE fan because they don't care about him and they won't until he does something of importance. Instead of blaming Triple H for holding them back, which he doesn't do, blame them for carrying out their characters poorly or blame the bookers for ****ty gimmicks. Shelton Benjamin is a great wrestler, but he's boring as hell in the ring all the time, pulling out like one flashy move once in a while.

For a while it seemed like the Triple H hate had died down, but even when he's not in the main title picture and he actually didn't want to get into a feud with Edge so early into his main event push that could harm Edge's career in the long run, people seem to whine about it. He and HBK did a good job putting over Umaga. As for last night's antics at Summerslam where they beat up everyone, I was disappointed by that. I was hoping for them to get beat down until Kane came in as a destructive monster and killed everyone to save them, but he just attacked Umaga. But then again, he's been putting over everyone and their brother in the last few years, so he deserved a break in getting the upper hand somewhat in this feud with the McMahons and beating up the Spirit Squad.

Triple H has EARNED his damn spot at the top and he shouldn't have to spend his whole career jobbing now that he's a main star, and people need to get over that. He was starting to come up to the main event back when he wasn't even with Stephanie and it was his charismatic personality that got the crowds to despise him as the cerebral assassin. You can't expect most wrestlers to just show up and automatically be respected by the fans and be mega faces or heels. It takes time.

Listen, I can't speak for lalakerfan4life, and wouldn't dream of trying. But as I said before, I believe Triple H has earned his spot in the WWE. And I also agree that CM Punk has only wrestled two matches, and will need some time to shine in front of the WWECW audience before he's respected on a more universal level.

However, calling him a piece of crap is unfair, and it was pretty widely reported that Triple H and HBK didn't like him, and were telling Vince not to move him up to Raw or Smackdown. Luckily for Punk, and as you've pointed out, the pushes don't always stop with Triple H, and Heyman and the ECW faithful, helped get Punk over in the eyes of Vince.

Do I think Trips would have tried to hold Punk back? Some evidence would point to yes - but because of the way things worked out, we'll never know.

But seriously, if you dig Triple H so much, sit down. Watch Punk. They've actually got very similiar work ethics in the ring. You'd probably enjoy both.

Now, as to lalakerfan4life's point, I do think it'd be interesting if there was someone in the WWE to balance some of the normal rabble-rousers in the back -- but since Patterson and Vince Russo are both gone, and Undertaker keeps mostly too himself, I don't know who'll ever step up to fill those positions.

[LALakerFan4Life]

So you basically want a bunch of guys to just start going against Triple H for everything he and HBK have done for the business? Nice, so you want chaos and to see the WWE go down in flames.

The WWE will survive without HHH and HBK, fact. They won't survive without guys like The Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Batista and Edge. HBK and HHH TOGETHER may be huge draws, but separately they have none of that anymore. They've gotten boring as individuals. They've accomplished everything they've wanted to accomplish (except HHH, who's so focused on having 23049234 titles that nothing seems to matter more) and they've got nothing more to offer (except a tired old gimmick). So what if they 'earned their spots'? It's not about them. ITS ABOUT THE FANS.


Triple H is one of the best things for the business. He can play the crazy and insane heel that goes nuts with his sledgehammer as the cerebral assassin and he can play the good guy face who is loved by the crowd in DX.

Again, old, done, no longer relevant, and no longer believable. All of his gimmicks are spent.


What needs to happen is the new guys need to actually get over with the crowd. Pieces of crap like CM Punk need to EARN the respect from the average WWE fan because they don't care about him and they won't until he does something of importance. Instead of blaming Triple H for holding them back, which he doesn't do, blame them for carrying out their characters poorly or blame the bookers for ****ty gimmicks. Shelton Benjamin is a great wrestler, but he's boring as hell in the ring all the time, pulling out like one flashy move once in a while.

CM Punk is the most over rookie, I daresay EVER in WWE. I haven't heard anybody pop for a guy debuting in his first professional match more. That tells you that Punk already has a reputation that precedes him, something HHH definitely didn't have coming in (at the beginning he was buried for 2 years before finally getting a push). He's going places right from the get go; and even though he hasn't been in the organization for more than a month he already has the respect. Fans care about him. You're dead wrong.

And he does hold people back, which is the whole point. The Kliq is notorious for it. They've held back and buried people at will. HHH buried Orton's title run just when it was lifting off, and may have permanently ruined Orton's chances at being a main eventer as a result. There are a whole plethora of other instances, small and big, where HHH and co. decided the younger generation were threatening and therefore buried them.

Shelton Benjamin is entirely irrelevant to this discussion.


For a while it seemed like the Triple H hate had died down, but even when he's not in the main title picture and he actually didn't want to get into a feud with Edge so early into his main event push that could harm Edge's career in the long run, people seem to whine about it. He and HBK did a good job putting over Umaga. As for last night's antics at Summerslam where they beat up everyone, I was disappointed by that. I was hoping for them to get beat down until Kane came in as a destructive monster and killed everyone to save them, but he just attacked Umaga. But then again, he's been putting over everyone and their brother in the last few years, so he deserved a break in getting the upper hand somewhat in this feud with the McMahons and beating up the Spirit Squad.

Umaga. Batista. There you go. 2 guys that HHH decided to put over. And he couldn't put Cena over before he publicly embarassed him with seemingly unscripted promos that further pushed Cena as a crappy wrestler. He even did it for pop, when HE'S supposed to be a heel. That's being a ass, not a respected veteran. Get your facts straight.

Everybody and their brother? You're smokin' something alright.



Triple H has EARNED his damn spot at the top and he shouldn't have to spend his whole career jobbing now that he's a main star, and people need to get over that. He was starting to come up to the main event back when he wasn't even with Stephanie and it was his charismatic personality that got the crowds to despise him as the cerebral assassin. You can't expect most wrestlers to just show up and automatically be respected by the fans and be mega faces or heels. It takes time.


What else does HHH have to do in the business? He's won the WWE World Heavyweight Championship 11 times, what else is there left? He's just going to be a floating main eventer who serves no purpose other than spitting on other people? He's been a 'main star' for years, this isn't a 'recent' occurence. His heyday is gone, he can't survive by his own persona anymore, at least not against the likes/threats of guys like Edge and Cena.

And nobody's expecting anyone to be automatically respected by the fans. But burying a guy just because you think he's a threat, which HHH/HBK obviously perceive Punk as (seeing as he's got a boatload of potential and seemingly more talent than HHH at the very least). The Kliq is alive and well and something needs to be done about it before the WWE really loses its grip on the future on the business. TNA is obviously not a threat now, but if they continue to farm the indys and 'minor leagues' and find the top notch guys, like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles, eventually they'll have enough money to actually start promoting these guys and showing that they can beat a lot of the older craggy guys in WWE in substance and style.

It might not happen this year, or next year, or ever 3 to 4 years from now, but it might happen. Reaping future talent is the only way WWE will survive, that's universal for any organization.

Being in love with the frontrunner only gets you so far before you realize you're too brittle in your structure to stay strong.

[The Italian]

What did you guys think of Jeff Hardy's return? I was so happy when I heard his music. His match with Edge was very good too. I can see Jeff Hardy doing great things with the WWE.

[KingsFan416]

Anyone is freakin over when they are indy wrestlers and put in front of a smark, indy crowd of fans. As many of you saw when he went to a WWE crowd, he got one chant of his name as well as a boring chant. Being mega over in one match because of an extremely biased crowd does not make you over with the rest of the crowds.

And as for the BS claims that Triple H is holding down Punk or trying to, that's some major freakin grasping at straws. Honestly, get over it. Triple H is lightyears ahead of Punk and by the time Punk gets to be a main event guy, if he lasts that long in the WWE, Triple H will be nearing the end of his career. Also, I believe both Vince and Heyman were very high on Punk and were arguing on as to who would get him, Raw or ECW, but Heyman ended up taking him. If Vince was really high on Punk, he wouldn't let Triple H force him to make Punk look bad.

Triple H still has huge drawing power, and they are playing off that for now with the DX angle with HBK, who also has huge drawing power, and they are working on building up the new main eventers that will take over for them when they retire. You can't expect Triple H to just start jobbing to everyone to the point where people don't give a damn anymore about him because he's just gonna lose.

As for TNA being a threat, that's a freakin joke when its being run by Jeff Jarrett and friends. He's worse than Triple H than you people make Triple H out to be. He isn't a young star either, so you can say bye bye to TNA in the next few years because his constant booking of only himself going over is going to kill them.

And Triple H has put over more than Batista and Umaga over the last few years.

Benoit, Eugene, Orton, Batista, Cena, Edge, the list goes on and if I had the time I'd search for everyone he put over just so that you people can stop whinning about it.

[DavisWarriorsFan]

He actually killed Eugene's and Orton's heat, but there you go. Why is Triple H's name in this thread?

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

Anyone is freakin over when they are indy wrestlers and put in front of a smark, indy crowd of fans. As many of you saw when he went to a WWE crowd, he got one chant of his name as well as a boring chant. Being mega over in one match because of an extremely biased crowd does not make you over with the rest of the crowds.

And as for the BS claims that Triple H is holding down Punk or trying to, that's some major freakin grasping at straws. Honestly, get over it. Triple H is lightyears ahead of Punk and by the time Punk gets to be a main event guy, if he lasts that long in the WWE, Triple H will be nearing the end of his career. Also, I believe both Vince and Heyman were very high on Punk and were arguing on as to who would get him, Raw or ECW, but Heyman ended up taking him. If Vince was really high on Punk, he wouldn't let Triple H force him to make Punk look bad.

Triple H still has huge drawing power, and they are playing off that for now with the DX angle with HBK, who also has huge drawing power, and they are working on building up the new main eventers that will take over for them when they retire. You can't expect Triple H to just start jobbing to everyone to the point where people don't give a damn anymore about him because he's just gonna lose.

As for TNA being a threat, that's a freakin joke when its being run by Jeff Jarrett and friends. He's worse than Triple H than you people make Triple H out to be. He isn't a young star either, so you can say bye bye to TNA in the next few years because his constant booking of only himself going over is going to kill them.

And Triple H has put over more than Batista and Umaga over the last few years.

Benoit, Eugene, Orton, Batista, Cena, Edge, the list goes on and if I had the time I'd search for everyone he put over just so that you people can stop whinning about it.

Wow. It's like banging my head against the wall. You're not even reading what other people are writing, you're just immediately jumping to Triple H's defense.

Well, I'm done with that. Anyone heard any new ECW in MSG news?

[KingsFan416]

Well sorry that I jump to defend a guy who is getting attacked by people in this thread, assuming he will hold back ECW when its taped before RAW so that he doesn't lose any crowd reaction. Maybe if people didn't always have to drag his name through the mud I wouldn't have to jump in and say something to defend him as one of his fans.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Anyone is freakin over when they are indy wrestlers and put in front of a smark, indy crowd of fans. As many of you saw when he went to a WWE crowd, he got one chant of his name as well as a boring chant. Being mega over in one match because of an extremely biased crowd does not make you over with the rest of the crowds.

And as for the BS claims that Triple H is holding down Punk or trying to, that's some major freakin grasping at straws. Honestly, get over it. Triple H is lightyears ahead of Punk and by the time Punk gets to be a main event guy, if he lasts that long in the WWE, Triple H will be nearing the end of his career. Also, I believe both Vince and Heyman were very high on Punk and were arguing on as to who would get him, Raw or ECW, but Heyman ended up taking him. If Vince was really high on Punk, he wouldn't let Triple H force him to make Punk look bad.

Triple H still has huge drawing power, and they are playing off that for now with the DX angle with HBK, who also has huge drawing power, and they are working on building up the new main eventers that will take over for them when they retire. You can't expect Triple H to just start jobbing to everyone to the point where people don't give a damn anymore about him because he's just gonna lose.

As for TNA being a threat, that's a freakin joke when its being run by Jeff Jarrett and friends. He's worse than Triple H than you people make Triple H out to be. He isn't a young star either, so you can say bye bye to TNA in the next few years because his constant booking of only himself going over is going to kill them.

And Triple H has put over more than Batista and Umaga over the last few years.

Benoit, Eugene, Orton, Batista, Cena, Edge, the list goes on and if I had the time I'd search for everyone he put over just so that you people can stop whinning about it.

Punk got a 'boring' chant by about 3 fans. And how many rookies have you heard had their name chanted in the first actual WWE match? Just provide one example. I'm waiting

Cena was the organization's biggest draw before DX, but now he's second to it. But it doesn't remove the fact that even if HHH is over, it overshadows faces, which makes him an ass when he exploits that to get pop. And that's what he is, a bona fide ass.

And he doesn't job to everyone. When he has 11 title belts, he can afford a little modesty. If that's too much to ask from the guy, then he shouldn't be in a business with a HUGE turnover rate that sees guys being the most over thing one moment and a jobbing lower-card hack the next.

TNA might not survive, and I didn't guarantee it did, but I put the precondition of them hiring even more new, better talent and being able to promote them on national air waves. You assume I said that TNA is dominant now. Which is why you're a wack debater.

HHH buried Eugene and Orton, Batista had his own drawing power and was very over even before HHH gave him his rub (which HHH hated, by the way), and practically everybody wanted to see Benoit except probably HHH wanted to see Benoit win at WM 20, and there was no way he could avoid that. He couldn't even submit to the crossface willingly, he had to go dramatic and lay in there for about 3 minutes before tapping out.

I don't mind seeing HHH job. Why should I feel sorry for him? He already makes more money than pretty much anyone else, he'll be in charge of the company in a few years, he won 11 titles, and he's put over all his friends.

Also, if you completely ignored the fact that Punk had a match that wasn't put on air because HHH/HBK wouldn't allow it, that's your own problem. Punk has more talent and potential than HHH ever had, even if HHH bought himself 11 useless title reigns.

[KingsFan416]

Oh freakin please. There is no way that Triple H would have the pull to have Vince take a match off the air of a wrestler that he is very high in his opinions.

You people here are all still living in the whiny, I'm new the internet news for wrestling, so I hate Triple H fantasty world. Hate to break it to you, but Triple H has earned his spot fair and square. Get over it, Triple H doesn't hold anyone down. He is still a big money maker for Vince and if I was in Vince's position, I'd do my damn best job of trying to keep him up on the main event level because I know he can bring in fans. Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, HBK, etc bring in the older fans who remember them back then when they started and people like Cena, Edge, RVD, etc bring in the new, fresh fans to watch wrestling.

CM Punk isn't bringing anyone in to watch, because most people that know of him already watch the WWE.

And like I freakin said about a MILLION times, anyone will be freakin mega over when a crowd is biased in their favor, like CM Punk had a crowd of smark, indy fans who knew of him. But when put into a match in front of a WWE crowd, his popularity flopped. A boring chant and a CM Punk chant that both lasted very shortly and were equal in their noise level.

And I just love that you continue to insinuate Triple H doesn't want to job or people he put over, didn't need it. Since Triple H lost to Batista at WM 21, he's been freakin MEGA OVER, even when he was out on injury. The first sights of boos for him that were noticeable came at Summerslam this year. Before that he was getting cheered, but he was nowhere near as over as he was when he won the title off of Triple H.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

Oh freakin please. There is no way that Triple H would have the pull to have Vince take a match off the air of a wrestler that he is very high in his opinions.

You people here are all still living in the whiny, I'm new the internet news for wrestling, so I hate Triple H fantasty world. Hate to break it to you, but Triple H has earned his spot fair and square. Get over it, Triple H doesn't hold anyone down. He is still a big money maker for Vince and if I was in Vince's position, I'd do my damn best job of trying to keep him up on the main event level because I know he can bring in fans. Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, HBK, etc bring in the older fans who remember them back then when they started and people like Cena, Edge, RVD, etc bring in the new, fresh fans to watch wrestling.

CM Punk isn't bringing anyone in to watch, because most people that know of him already watch the WWE.

And like I freakin said about a MILLION times, anyone will be freakin mega over when a crowd is biased in their favor, like CM Punk had a crowd of smark, indy fans who knew of him. But when put into a match in front of a WWE crowd, his popularity flopped. A boring chant and a CM Punk chant that both lasted very shortly and were equal in their noise level.

And I just love that you continue to insinuate Triple H doesn't want to job or people he put over, didn't need it. Since Triple H lost to Batista at WM 21, he's been freakin MEGA OVER, even when he was out on injury. The first sights of boos for him that were noticeable came at Summerslam this year. Before that he was getting cheered, but he was nowhere near as over as he was when he won the title off of Triple H.

Mmmmm, Fantasty.

Seriously though, Wrestlemania 21 was a while ago. And if I remember correctly, the next Wrestlemania, HHH pushed the up-and-comer Edge out of the main event spot that everyone said he should have been booked for. And why? To hot shot a Cena/HHH angle because Hunter felt entitled to the main event slot. Sure, everyone looks back at that favorably, because HHH came to the ring looking like Conan the Barabarian and did the j-o-b on the PPV. But what a lot people don't remember is that it shuffled Edge into an angle with Foley which, despite an excellent match, didn't make a lot of sense in its build.

So, yeah, Trips puts people over. But he does it on his terms. And his terms often means certain talented individuals not getting the main event spots they deserve. Has this happened yet with Punk? No, of course not. But has it happened with a lot of other?

Oh hell yeah.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Oh freakin please. There is no way that Triple H would have the pull to have Vince take a match off the air of a wrestler that he is very high in his opinions.

You obviously don't know squat about the WWE business or the amount of creative control HHH has. Great way to start an argument Also, Vince wasn't high on Punk from the start, everything he knew about Punk came from agents and scouts and later on Heyman, who eventually convinced Vince to push Punk. Vince didn't care either way, so if his son in law, who basically runs parts of creative control on Raw, objected to Punk being aired in another Heat match, Vince had no reason to defend Punk.


You people here are all still living in the whiny, I'm new the internet news for wrestling, so I hate Triple H fantasty world.

Is that English or are you using Freetranslator.com?


Hate to break it to you, but Triple H has earned his spot fair and square.

Great! Nobody argued against it! But thanks for pointing that out!


Get over it, Triple H doesn't hold anyone down.

See it's hard to argue with somebody who doesn't even bother researching or having basic knowledge of what he's talking about.


He is still a big money maker for Vince and if I was in Vince's position, I'd do my damn best job of trying to keep him up on the main event level because I know he can bring in fans.

Riiiiiight... because those buyrates for Backlash were amazing, right?


Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, HBK, etc bring in the older fans who remember them back then when they started and people like Cena, Edge, RVD, etc bring in the new, fresh fans to watch wrestling.

HBK is much more from the 'older' generation than HHH is. HHH hit the big time because he peaked around Attitude, along with Austin, Rock, Foley and others. But he's still nothing compared to the legacies that those guys put up. They didn't have to bang the owner's daughters to keep winning championships, either. Sure he got the most massive pop in history after he came back from a messed up leg, but that didn't make him great enough to overshadow everyone else. Booker T does a better job and has worked harder than HHH ever has, but he won't ever get the kind of constant, unending push that HHH gets, and that's just plain wrong. And also, in case you didn't notice, WWE's main demographic is 16-25. THAT'S the crowd they pull in, not 35+ year old people who watch it on TV, go to some shows and dont bother buying merchandise because it's a wack investment (which it really is). Which is why guys like Cena/Edge/RVD/etc. are, or should be, the main draws/pushes, and not HHH.


CM Punk isn't bringing anyone in to watch, because most people that know of him already watch the WWE.

WTF? WWE hasn't tried to appeal to a broader audience in a decade, they pretty much abandoned that when they realized nobody was interested in their product anymore. Look at Saturday Night's Main Event. DX was there. Did that draw anybody? Hell no.


And like I freakin said about a MILLION times, anyone will be freakin mega over when a crowd is biased in their favor, like CM Punk had a crowd of smark, indy fans who knew of him. But when put into a match in front of a WWE crowd, his popularity flopped. A boring chant and a CM Punk chant that both lasted very shortly and were equal in their noise level.

It didn't flop. I have the video, I can listen to the audio and see the fans, what's your evidence? Also, if you didn't notice, the crowd audio was muted for most of the matches because Sci Fi was getting very anxious about the language fans were using. Maybe you should put that in that little corner you leave your 'facts' to rot.


And I just love that you continue to insinuate Triple H doesn't want to job or people he put over, didn't need it. Since Triple H lost to Batista at WM 21, he's been freakin MEGA OVER, even when he was out on injury. The first sights of boos for him that were noticeable came at Summerslam this year. Before that he was getting cheered, but he was nowhere near as over as he was when he won the title off of Triple H.

Batista is still mega over, more over than anyone else on SmackDown!, even Rey. Summerslam he got a few boos because he was facing that smark-gasm named Kennedy (who has YET to prove he's anything besides yelling his own name) but he was still popular with over 85% of the crowd, which is what you can't say about Cena, even. He was over even before he won the title, the title itself just sealed the deal. They weren't going to be able to stop Batista from getting the push, and at the time HHH was very buddy-buddy with Batista and let him have the title. It only logically follows that since HHH won his 11th title, he got convinced, probably by others, that he still has time to break Ric Flair's record and therefore could job and get his title later. And don't be mistaken, HHH and the title are set to meet again right around the corner. Who do you think HHH is? A modest guy who can go without being in the limelight and at the top of the business? HAHA! This DX thing was just another excuse for him to be on the main stage. To think that he and HBK were pissed that Hogan got more pop than them. What the hell does that tell you?

Get your facts straight or don't argue. You hold no weight in debating when you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

[LALakerFan4Life]

What did you guys think of Jeff Hardy's return? I was so happy when I heard his music. His match with Edge was very good too. I can see Jeff Hardy doing great things with the WWE.
Yeah the return of Jeff Hardy was cool. I liked the match he had against Edge. I hope he'll get a shot at the World title soon. Reunite The Hardy's!

[LALakerFan4Life]

ECW on the Sci-Fi Channel tonight. There will be a Summerslam rematch with Sabu and Show.

Expect some Rene Dupree, Test/Knox and Dreamer/Sandman confrontation...

and I'm begging for some CM Punk and Vampires.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

They need to start some new feuds besides giving Punk and the Vampire squash matches and hopefully they do something different with the Test/Knox vs Dreamer/Sandman feud.. im not really excited about the main event seeing as it was not that great at Summerslam but im expecting a RVD interference which is good.

[KingLeBronJames]

I haven't watched ECW since they brought it back (no cable at my house) but now that I am in my apartment and have cable once again, I am kind of excited to see the new product. Any expectations or warnings I should heed?

[TMacYaoRockets]

Yeah, Punk needs a real feud. He could do it with Justin Credible though. And Kevin Thorn needs to do something besides squash jobbers. Knox/Test and Dreamer/Sandman need to do more. I hope the main event isn't as botchy as the SummerSlam match, and interference would be a nice way to end it.

[TMacYaoRockets]

Bob Holly and Matt Striker might come to ECW. Hopefully Striker can get a push, that guy needs one. He should keep the teacher gimmick, that'd be great in ECW.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Both guys belong on SmackDown! and have no need to be in ECW. They have trouble getting guys onto the hour show now.

I am one of the few that don't have an issue with the squashes right now. Thorn should go against jobbers right now to prove his dominance, and Punk should be working with the best undercard workers in ECW right now to show what he's got.

TBH, I don't think either need to be in immediate feuds.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

Both guys belong on SmackDown! and have no need to be in ECW. They have trouble getting guys onto the hour show now.

I am one of the few that don't have an issue with the squashes right now. Thorn should go against jobbers right now to prove his dominance, and Punk should be working with the best undercard workers in ECW right now to show what he's got.

TBH, I don't think either need to be in immediate feuds.
I don't see how they can keep fans watching if they have just squash matches every show with no storyline.. the only good points about ECW so far is the main event and the tag fued because there is actually a story behind them.

[GoRapz]

Where da pics at? PM me them if Jeff didn't want you to post them

when did i post that?

[nash4eva!gosuns]

Dude... EDGE IS MY SEXY MAN

[GoRapz]

i can't find them no more. sorry

[The Italian]

I am pretty sure that there are pics pn WWE.com. Not positive about it though.

[GoRapz]

Kurt Angle Released From WWE

Due to personal issues, Kurt Angle has been granted an early release from his contract. WWE looks forward to establishing a new relationship with Kurt in the near future.

The only Olympic gold medalist in WWE history, Kurt Angle arrived in 1999 and quickly became one of the most decorated champions in sports-entertainment history. "The Wrestling Machine" is not only a six-time World Champion, but also held the Intercontinental Championship and WWE Tag Team Championship; he also won the 2000 King of the Ring tournament. Recently joining ECW, Angle

[The Italian]

This really sucks about Kurt Angle being realesed. He is the best wrestler the WWE had. I hope that he comes back somtime. He wasawsome WWE superstar.

[The Italian]

Could anybody give me the Smackdown recap? I missed it.

[GoRapz]

Smackdown 8/25/06

Smackdown:

*WWE World champion King Booker names Finlay and William Regal his "Royal Knights" with a ceremony inside the ring. They both thank Booker and promise to take care of anyone who crosses him. Bobby Lashley, then Batista hit the ring, with everyone brawling. Smackdown General Manager Teddy Long comes out and decrees there will be a handicap tag main event tonight...King Booker & William Regal & Finlay vs. Batista & Lashley.

*Ken Kennedy defeated Matt Hardy after WWE Cruiserweight champion Gregory Helms (at ringside doing commentary) hits Hardy.

*Backstage, The Miz and Ashley discuss Leyla winning the Diva Search.

*The Miz comes to the ring and brings out Leyla, who thanks everyone for their support. Miz plugs that he'll make his in-ring debut on next week's Smackdown.

*Sylvester Turkay defeated Tatanka.

*They show highlights of Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero from Summerslam. They show Vicki Guerrero walking backstage, as she'll be coming to the ring after a commercial break.

*Vicki Guerrero comes to the ring and addresses the crowd. She apologizes for getting involved in the Guerrero vs. Mysterio PPV match and said she is going to move on with her life, but first she wants to apologize to both. Mysterio comes to the ring. She apologizes to Rey and they hug. Guerrero comes to the ring and hugs Vicki as well. They are all about to leave when Chavo attacks Rey. He goes to hit Rey with a chair, but Vicki stops Chavo and takes the chair away...then hits Rey with it. Chavo suplexes Rey on the chair. He and Vicki hug and leave Rey laying in the ring.

*WWE Tag Team champion Paul London (with Brian Kendrick) defeated KC James (with Idol Stevens & Michelle McCool) via DQ when The Pitbulls hit the ring and attack London. All three teams brawl.

*MVP comes to the front row to sit ringside with two women as they go to commercial.

*Kristal Marshall defeated Jillian Hall.

*They aired a vignette for Jimmy Wang Yang, which is his new official name, doing the cowboy gimmick he's used during a few recent dark matches.

*Vito defeated Sylvan. MVP was laughing at Vito from ringside, so Vito called him out. MVP got in the ring to confront him, but MVP's agent calls on the cell phone and says they don't have a contract yet, so MVP turns down the challenge.

*Batista & Bobby Lashleydefeated WWE World champion King Booker & William Regal & Finlay.


if you need any further details about some of the matches, just ask me.

[The Italian]

Thanks for the recap.

[The Italian]

Jeff Hardy against Randy Orton #1 contendership for the IC title.

Candice Michelle against Torrie Wilson back to school paddle on a pole match.



I am so stoked for teh Hardy Orton match. My two favourite superstars fighting each other. I hope Jeff wins. I can see Carlito interfering and screwing Orton over.

[GoRapz]

LOL, did you guys see Chris Masters? that guy is so small now, and he has man boobs that flop, I guess that's what you get for taking steroids.

[B-Low]

Lita used to be such a good wrestler...she just looks so sloppy in there now for some reason

[GoRapz]

Lita used to be such a good wrestler...she just looks so sloppy in there now for some reason

her boobs make up for it

[The Italian]

I think that the PPV looks like it is going to be really good. Edge is always awsome in TLC matches. Hell in a Cell matches are always entertaining. Plus Jeff Hardy against Nitro should be a good match as well.

[Skywalker]

easily the worst hell in a cell match ever.

Vince isnt gonan climb up there. Shane might, but isnt he past those days? Show aint gonna get up there.

Are HHH and HBK just gonna stand up there and say SUCK IT all day, imagine show tried to climb it and fell off, omg rofl

[dab0yech0]

Are HHH and HBK just gonna stand up there and say SUCK IT all day, imagine show tried to climb it and fell off, omg rofl

:roll:

Hmmm so does this mean Big Show will be apart of the NWO? Is this the start of NWO coming back? I think Show was part of NWO in WCW if im not mistaken.

[The Italian]

:roll:

Hmmm so does this mean Big Show will be apart of the NWO? Is this the start of NWO coming back? I think Show was part of NWO in WCW if im not mistaken.

What are you talking about Big Show being part of the NWO? Where did you see that they are coming back?

[dab0yech0]

Dont you remember the Survivor Series poster that was leaked out? It had DX spraypainted over the NWO logo.

[GoRapz]

Dont you remember the Survivor Series poster that was leaked out? It had DX spraypainted over the NWO logo.

yeah that one is reported to be fake.


anyways, to my fellow canadians, just reminding that Smackdown is on @ 8 tonight.

[The Italian]

I am really starting to get sick of this Eddie Gurerro stuff. They should stop mentioning him all of the time and think of new storylines for Rey and Chavo. It is really getting old.



Matt Hardy vs. Gregory Helms is on right now.

[The Italian]

Has anybody else noticed that Batista has seemed to have gotten really bad since coming back from his injury. I mean his moves don't look as good and powerful as they used to. It seems that he has abboanded using the Batista Bomb and is using the spinebuster as his finisher now. I think the Batista Bomb was a lot better. It may just be me but I have not been impressed with him since he came back from injury.



PS I am not a Batista hater, I was a huge fan of his before he got hurt.

[Starbury4MVP]

Have any of yall noticed that when divas like Torrie Wilson are going to the ring, everyone is trying to give her high fives. I'd be tryin to cop a feel son, they need to grow some balls and grab that @$$, you feel me.

[Skywalker]

lol yeah, whats she gonna do delay the show? if you sneak a quick one you might be able to dodge the security guard.

Who won Hardy or Helms? I missed it

[The Italian]

lol yeah, whats she gonna do delay the show? if you sneak a quick one you might be able to dodge the security guard.

Who won Hardy or Helms? I missed it

Hardy won.

[nash4eva!gosuns]

EDGE IS MY SEXY MAN!!!!!!!:banana: :banana: :bowdown: :bowdown: :banana: :pimp:

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Edge Sux.

John Cena Will Whoop His Ass

[The Italian]

What did you guys think of Raw this week?

[GoRapz]

What did you guys think of Raw this week?

nothing really special, another usual raw.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

nothing really special, another usual raw.

i agree there were a couple interesting things that happen but nothing special

[Heilige]

Anyway, good Raw. I'm deciding between a 7 or an 8.

The opening segment was extremely well done. I don't like Edge once again going after Cena's wrestling skills though. When are they going to realize that's not getting him over, but making fans think about his weaknesses rather than his strengths? Cena showing some aggression was nice. He hasn't pulled the "I respect you" line on Edge yet, which is probably why this feud is so much better than his others. Cena seemed over tonight as well. That'll change the next few weeks. Shame.

Hardy/Nitro was pretty crap, really. Without a guy that knows how to put a match together, these guys are just throwing spot after spot out there, and very sloppily as well. This was probably the lowlight of the night for me. I don't care to see the re-match either. A bad idea putting this on free TV.

I usually hate when they have a bunch of backstage **** as it kills the crowd, but this was worthwhile. Trish/Lita and Orton/Carlito were put over as heated feuds, and that really helped the crowd for the main event. It also gives them two more high profile matches for the PPV, which looks like it'll be worth the purchase.

I marked out for Super Crazy, but I still wish he was on Smackdown. At least it seems like he'll be given a chance to make his mark. Beating Masters was a shock to me. I'm glad they're making Masters work to get his spot on the card back, especially considering he did nothing to earn it in the first place. Decent match.

The DX/McMahons stuff was much more tolerable this week. I hope that "You reminded us who we are" thing means no more silly **** jokes for a few weeks and we get some serious buildup to the match at Unforgiven. Pretty ridiculous that McMahon and Trips get the main event slot next week after the hot main event tonight, but whatever. Big Show is grand.

I liked the three team tag. Showcase the teams on Raw so the fans get to know them. They actually seem to be building the tag divisions on both shows, though Raw certainly has more teams at the moment, and they're adding Cryme Tyme. The finish to this was awesome, and Murdoch took a sick bump.

Oy, Ric Flair is too old to be kissing Maria. That was disturbing. She's like 24. Man. That's ****ing gross. I was kind of hoping Umaga dismantled him. But the Kane/Umaga stuff was cool. Again, good buildup for the PPV. Kane setting the pyro off when Umaga was making his way back in the ring was awesome.

CRYME TYME! Ahahah, yus. Apparently they're supposed to be parodying racial stereotypes, but you know Vince just wanted a black team that are criminals. Good stuff.

The main event was AWESOME. The crowd was hot, the wrestling were into it, and the match was good. Cena going nuts on the outside was fun to watch. He puts everything he has into his matches, you gotta give him that. Everyone else put 100% in tonight too. Even Orton was entertaining doing "You Can't See Me" to the ref after the RKO. I think Cena, Edge and Carlito gave Orton a shot of charisma for a minute.

Oy, despite the ****ty IC title match that took up two segments, this show gets an 8. Well done.

[LALakerFan4Life]

ECW this past tuesday night was good. The tag team match of RVD and Sabu vs. Test and Mike Knox in a extreme rules match was sick! And then I saw "The Reject" Shannon Moore did his gay ass promo saying "I'm bringing sexy back." Then C.M. Punk appears looks and Moore calling him a "Poser" then b*tch slaps him. Moore looked like he was gonna cry. I'm glad I recorded ECW that night hahaha.

[II Peter]

I'm sure you die-hards know this, but I just found out there is an openly gay wrestler, Kanyon. He was on Sirius today. How long has he been out and whats happening with that and what are people saying? I wouldn't think that would go over too well.

[B-Low]

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2nkrvk3


http://rajah.com/base/node/6284

Sean "X-Pac" Waltman made a surprise appearance at the 9/8 RAW brand house show in Tampa, Florida. After DX defeated Trevor Murdoch & Lance Cade in match, X-Pac came down to ringside to celebrate with them. Both Triple H and Shawn Michaels looked surprised by his arrival. X-Pac wore street clothes and he did some crotch chops.



Ohhhhh snap!

[dab0yech0]

So hes not signed or anything? X-Pac is just a glory hog just wanted to come back for the spotlight and some attention

[Skywalker]

Cena, Jeff Hardy, Carlito vs. Edge, Nitro, Orton announced for this Monday's RAW

[KingLeBronJames]

LMAO ROFL :roll: The fans are chanting "F*** You Cena" to John Cena on Monday Night Raw right now.

[KGBigTicket21MVP]

"Rowdy" Roddy Piper is back on Raw! :D

[DavisWarriorsFan]

LMAO ROFL :roll: The fans are chanting "F*** You Cena" to John Cena on Monday Night Raw right now.
Really? hahaha Raw is at MSG tonight. New York is ECW territory. They really hate John Cena with the passion. WWE didn't bleep the "F you" chant out?

[KingLeBronJames]

Really? hahaha Raw is at MSG tonight. New York is ECW territory. They really hate John Cena with the passion. WWE didn't bleep the "F you" chant out?
Nope. That was great. I hate Cena.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

HHH is about to kill vince

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

lol nvm vince is whoopin triple H

[LALakerFan4Life]

LMAO ROFL :roll: The fans are chanting "F*** You Cena" to John Cena on Monday Night Raw right now.
Arenas across the country are gonna start chating that now whenever Cena is in action since WWE didn't bleep out the F you chant

[T-Low]

Okay, 1. Big Show was in NWO in WCW but gotta booted out (in his rookie year if i am correct. 2. I wouldn't mind seeing some backup for DX, might be a good thing. 3. I find that Raw was better back in the day. The Stone Cold VS McMahon was better than DX VS McMahon. DX was better impersonating The Nation of Domination. That is what I am talkin about "The Crock!"...

[B-Low]

Awww i'm gonna miss Trish

[ShawnieMac06]

Really? hahaha Raw is at MSG tonight. New York is ECW territory. They really hate John Cena with the passion. WWE didn't bleep the "F you" chant out?

Not quite...Philly is ECW territory, WWE has always been king in New York as far as wrestling, it's just that the fans in that part of the country are the most rabid wrestling fans around. However, you can say ECW has/had just as big of a fanbase in New York than they had/have in Philadelphia.

[APOCALYPSE7\14\8]

Where is the dx vs nwo poster at???

[knewyorknix]

where can it be found??????????????????/

[B-Low]

That DX/NWO poster was fake...a fan made it in photoshop and said it "leaked out".

[knewyorknix]

yea but i wanna see it

[StabMasterArson]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/bpferris/ss06bw9.jpg

[dab0yech0]

pretty good photoshop

[hbk #1 fan]

This nwo vs dx poster looks real. besides if it is real Vince could get kevin nash,scott hall, and x-pac any time he wants to. Hes rich

[LALakerFan4Life]

This nwo vs dx poster looks real. besides if it is real Vince could get kevin nash,scott hall, and x-pac any time he wants to. Hes rich
Vince could sign Nash and Hall. They are both free agents. Nash is not under contract with TNA Wrestling. As for X-Pac, I don't think he can sign with the WWE cause he's under contract with MTV Wrestling.

[hbk #1 fan]

http://yugioh.toywizforums.com/showthread.php?t=5613

[hbk #1 fan]

What do you think about Nwo coming back now?What about the elimination chamber?

[HALLandOATES]

that 6 man match with orton,hardy ect.. was one of the entertaining matches i've seen in a while..

[hbk #1 fan]

The Boogeyman was released from wwe today

[T-Low]

The Boogeyman was released from wwe today

He was released because his devotion to rehab was not very intense and he wasn't seeing doctors and stuff so they released him.

[GoRapz]

damn, i was looking forward to see the boogeyman back in action.

[Skywalker]

did the boogeyman ever do anything other than eat worms and shake like hes having a seizure?

I seriously cant recall a single match of his. What a dumb gimmick anyways, good riddens (sp?)
you piece of garbage.

[knewyorknix]

anyone hear any news about nwo coming to wwe ? or is there any other goodies that are rumored?

[T-Low]

There are always rumours. Wanna find out the best? Go to:
http://24wrestling.com

Newest rumour:
X-Pac resigns with WWE. Looking like DX reunite.

[MadeFromDust]

This is the official topic. BUMP :pimp:

[Lebron23]

The Miz is now a 2x WWE Champion.

[BurningHammer]

The Miz is now a 2x WWE Champion.

almost 10 years in a making.

Otis winning the briefcase for this though :(

[Lebron23]

almost 10 years in a making.

Otis winning the briefcase for this though :(

Bobby Lashley vs. the Miz.

[BurningHammer]

Bobby Lashley vs. the Miz.

Could be Bobbo vs Drew though, as Bobbo is Brock's replacement.

[insidehoops]

Ricky "The Dragon" Streamboat got this.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V7kvSqoyZE

Shawn Michaels vs. AJ Styles is my dream match

[Charlie Sheen]

I like Adam Cole. Caught the end of the bash last night after game 1.