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Suns4Life
03-28-2008, 11:37 PM
Alright, before all the flames and what not start up, let me explain what I am doing. I have a presentation for a class and it is of the persuasive nature. My university is full of people from all over Texas so I think this would be a good subject.

I just need your guy's help on gathering up some of the main incidents and complaints from around the league of them being dirty. I don't believe I will need help with the Bowen incidents since they are plentiful, but for the other guys or the team as a whole, I could use some help. It is only going to be a 5 minute presentation so I shouldn't need all that much.

Once again, please keep it civil.

icemanfan
03-28-2008, 11:43 PM
too soft, too old, too young, too dirty, i have heard it all. I can not believe a Suns fan would post this though. You want to have some fun go to UTube and search dirty Nash and dirt Raja and enjoy. Do your presentation on Dirty suns and use that video as evidence.

DatZNasty
03-28-2008, 11:46 PM
I guess you could do a section on Manu's flops, particularly he flopped and fell back into Dirk's knee once and did the same to Barbosa, causing both players to miss significant time.

But yea, you're likely going to be focusing mostly on Bowen.

You could also find the quote Pop had about Bowen where he said Bowen should NOT change his game, regardless of what Stu JAckson says, which came out around the time he ankle assassined Crawford and Francis in consecutive games.

Also while you're talking about Bowen, make it a point to mention the main people he has beef with, are otherwise model citizens and Sportsmenship Awards winners (Finley and Ray Allen both). It obviously gives the impression, wow he must be really dirty then to piss them off.

Oberto just flops, nothing really dirty there. Duncan gets away with putting his hand on your hip stopping your horizontal momentum when he blocks your shot, savvy, not dirty though.

Find the quote where Eva said that Tony admitted to her that he flops and pretends to be more hurt than he is to milk the refs. Again, it's more flopping than dirty play, but it works.

DatZNasty
03-28-2008, 11:48 PM
I realize you guys are Spurs fans, but please don't tell me you actually dispute Bowen being a dirty player. Call a spade a spade, admit it doesn't bother you as much because he's doing it for you team, but that dude is as dirty as they come.

statman32
03-28-2008, 11:51 PM
- Robert Horry incident

- Bruce Brown knee to the groin of Nash

- All the other Bruce Bowen kicks

- Manu flopping into someone and injuring them, not sure who, I think Barbosa

- This is old but if you can find a clip of Kevin Willis elbowing Scott Williams in the adams apple.

Let me think of some more. :oldlol:

v-unit
03-28-2008, 11:54 PM
It's a long list.

How can you do a report on such a huge topic. There are so many sections of dirty spurs plays/players/moments. Are you going to talk about the ones purposly made to injure someone, or the ones with intent to mentally shock another player? You can't have a 5 minute presentation on this, I could write an essay on their dirty defense.

JtotheIzzo
03-28-2008, 11:54 PM
Bruce Bowen
Flop Ginobili
Hip Check Horry
"I didn't do it" face Duncan

yeah they definitely bend the basketball laws.


But Bowen single-handedly makes them dirty

v-unit
03-28-2008, 11:57 PM
The force of Manu Ginobili's flopness x the rate of occurance of Bruce Bowens dirty antics = enough strength to hold 1000 hippos.

That equation basically means that as long as both of them play dirty, they will win.

Suns4Life
03-28-2008, 11:58 PM
It's a long list.

How can you do a report on such a huge topic. There are so many sections of dirty spurs plays/players/moments. Are you going to talk about the ones purposly made to injure someone, or the ones with intent to mentally shock another player? You can't have a 5 minute presentation on this, I could write an essay on their dirty defense.

I will just show some of the funnier ones like Bowen kicking Wally, the Duncan face, Horry checking Nash and add some commentary to it to drill home the point. It is just to persuade people into believing they are dirty, and with all this evidence, it won't take much to instill that thinking. I am just doing this because I think it will be really easy for me, I'm a good speaker and this topic and the evidence should easily do the job.

DatZNasty
03-28-2008, 11:58 PM
Is it a presentation where you'll be able to show video? If so, you have to add this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ukde193ivM

Suns4Life
03-29-2008, 12:09 AM
I think I will need to get some good quotes, I know I can find the Ray Allen and VC ones, but are there any other ones floating around that I am forgetting? Oh ya, I remember good Isiah Thomas one too.

23airjordan23
03-29-2008, 12:10 AM
Yes... i dont even need to explain why

DatZNasty
03-29-2008, 12:13 AM
"The league is trying to send him a message more than anything," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "The incident itself, I've watched a lot of times, and there was no real contact. It doesn't reach the level of other suspensions that I've seen, either in physicality or harm."

I told Bruce, 'You be Bruce Bowen'" Popovich told the San Antonio ExpressNews. "'You're the best defender in this league. You will not change the way you play defense.'"

Just google them, "ray allen on bruce bowen," "michael finley on bruce bowen," etc. They're all out there.

Remember Cuban had the incident where he encouraged Howard to hit Bowen in the face "accidentally." And Josh Howard has had run ins with Bowen a few times.

See if you can find the conversation Tim Duncan and Ray Allen had in the locker room of the all star game where Duncan pretty much submitted to the fact Bowen is dirty.

And you can't not use this photo

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/bowen.jpg

Here's a thread
http://forums.myspace.com/p/3836071/39717940.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewpost

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z247/Vampyre2050/BRUCEBOWENDEFENSE.jpg

TruthKGRay3412
03-29-2008, 12:22 AM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa318/aznricemunkey415/bowen.gif
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/thefreshprince101/Sports%20Pictures/bowen2.jpg

cartmanclone
03-29-2008, 12:23 AM
yes they are dirty

manu flops
duncan whines
and bowen kicks the hell out of people

mrpibb
03-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Last year's playoffs, although I think the Spurs were just the victims of a bias against them. Horry didn't mean to give suspensions to Amare and Diaw, and the scary incident with Deron Williams was just a hard screen.

I don't think the Spurs are a dirty team, Bruce Bowen may have some dirty tactics, but you don't hear about Tim Duncan kicking people, so I think it's just Bruce.

And everybody flops, come on.

Dizzle-2k7
03-29-2008, 04:30 PM
Anyone that thinks Bowen is dirty is just soft. Thats it. The league's best all respect him as a great defensive player. In fact, he may go down as one of the greatest defensive players of all time. Who else has had to deal with the level of competition night in, night out? Not many.

All yall hatin on Bruce = pillow soft.

http://www.mycomfortmyway.com/img/product_floam_pillow.jpg

mrpibb
03-29-2008, 04:31 PM
Anyone that thinks Bowen is dirty is just soft. Thats it. The league's best all respect him as a great defensive player. In fact, he may go down as one of the greatest defensive players of all time. Who else has had to deal with the level of competition night in, night out? Not many.

All yall hatin on Bruce = pillow soft.

http://www.mycomfortmyway.com/img/product_floam_pillow.jpg
Great defensive player, but he really needs to stop putting his foot under players ' feet. Seriously dude.

Dizzle-2k7
03-29-2008, 04:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/freekdude/m_021dcf185b9b3477d7609f63da188bc9.gif

SayTownRy
03-29-2008, 04:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/freekdude/m_021dcf185b9b3477d7609f63da188bc9.gif

nice one!

put that in your presentation sunfan!

mrpibb
03-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Look, Bruce is a great player. I respect him, he just has done some stuff that you can't ignore.

MadeFromDust
01-24-2015, 06:46 PM
yes they are dirty

manu flops
duncan whines
and bowen kicks the hell out of people
:roll:

But cats need the hell kicked out of them. That's a good thing

And that's where Bruise Bones steps in...so to speak :lebronamazed:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

MadeFromDust
01-24-2015, 06:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/freekdude/m_021dcf185b9b3477d7609f63da188bc9.gif
:roll: lmao he got bowened ya killing me over here :oldlol: :oldlol:

buddha
01-24-2015, 06:57 PM
so what grade did you get OP?

Mikebball1
01-24-2015, 07:01 PM
yes! I call em footgate cuz of bowen...whinegate cuz of duncan...flopgate cuz of manu

MadeFromDust
01-24-2015, 07:54 PM
Jan 2015
:facepalm :rolleyes: