We Now Know Derrick Rose's Weakness

[Interminator]

[quote]HOUSTON

[wang4three]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.

[Interminator]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.
And yours is ISH,limp dick,computer porn,and lack of a social life.


Sounds fair.:confusedshrug:

[thenextgreatbigman]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.
his jumpshot was on last night and dribble drives are a part of their offense. I know that he tries to do too much off the dribble and it gets him in trouble.

He's one of those guys who's game translates much better in the nba than college and Caliparis system.

[GOBB]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.

:oldlol:

[wang4three]

And yours is ISH,limp dick,computer porn,and lack of a social life.


Sounds fair.
So I'm a top 5 pick?


his jumpshot was on last night and dribble drives are a part of their offense. I know that he tries to do too much off the dribble and it gets him in trouble.

He's one of those guys who's game translates much better in the nba than college and Caliparis system.

Oh I'm a big fan of Derrick, don't get me wrong. I'm just being realistic. His jump shot was on against MSU the other night, against guys I call great defenders in Walton and Lucas, but I still consider it a weakness. It could be just the same as Corey Brewer last season and wouldn't doubt it if it was. I agree, Calipari's system is flawed. He's the same type of coach Bill Self is, get a bunch of talented players to cover up your weakness as a coach. In the end, talent will prevail most of the time.

Like I said, I'm a big, big Derrick fan--and I'd love to have Derrick on the Nets. I say this with Devin Harris looking like he's closing the gap between him and Deron and Chris Paul as the best point guards for the future. I also say this after he stringed along my college university and played us like suckers. Should tell you how much of a fan I am.

[GOBB]

his jumpshot was on last night and dribble drives are a part of their offense. I know that he tries to do too much off the dribble and it gets him in trouble.

He's one of those guys who's game translates much better in the nba than college and Caliparis system.

He's ballin in the tourney

[niko]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.
you make it sound like the boy got no game. he's been balling so far. not sure what you are watching.

[Interminator]

So I'm a top 5 pick?
Late Lottery.;)




Oh I'm a big fan of Derrick, don't get me wrong. I'm just being realistic. His jump shot was on against MSU the other night, against guys I call great defenders in Walton and Lucas, but I still consider it a weakness. It could be just the same as Corey Brewer last season and wouldn't doubt it if it was. I agree, Calipari's system is flawed. He's the same type of coach Bill Self is, get a bunch of talented players to cover up your weakness as a coach. In the end, talent will prevail most of the time.
Hey,not every PG's jumpshot is truly consistent.Rose is an exciting Combo Guard who if he learns to tone it down a little bit could be a good ScG in the NBA.
If he can average 16/6/5 in the NBA I think he'd be of some success.



Like I said, I'm a big, big Derrick fan--and I'd love to have Derrick on the Nets. I say this with Devin Harris looking like he's closing the gap between him and Deron and Chris Paul as the best point guards for the future. I also say this after he stringed along my college university and played us like suckers. Should tell you how much of a fan I am.
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[thenextgreatbigman]

Oh I'm a big fan of Derrick, don't get me wrong. I'm just being realistic. His jump shot was on against MSU the other night, against guys I call great defenders in Walton and Lucas, but I still consider it a weakness. It could be just the same as Corey Brewer last season and wouldn't doubt it if it was. I agree, Calipari's system is flawed. He's the same type of coach Bill Self is, get a bunch of talented players to cover up your weakness as a coach. In the end, talent will prevail most of the time.

Brewer had horrible form and shot the ball well for like 3 games in the tournament, rose on the other hand has a good looking form and gets most of his shots off the dribble. There's room for improvement and he'll get it down in a few years.

brewer should have never been drafted anywhere near the first round, he's not all that athletic and has a hard time putting the ball on the floor. Can play some good defense but he can thank florida for his nice rookie contract.

[Interminator]

you make it sound like the boy got no game. he's been balling so far. not sure what you are watching.
Hes got game.

Just not a consistent mid range or outside shot.

[Interminator]

Brewer had horrible form and shot the ball well for like 3 games in the tournament, rose on the other hand has a good looking form and gets most of his shots off the dribble. There's room for improvement and he'll get it down in a few years.

brewer should have never been drafted anywhere near the first round, he's not all that athletic and has a hard time putting the ball on the floor. Can play some good defense but he can thank florida for his nice rookie contract.
Derrick Rose has an ugly shooting form also.

Corey Brewer although wasnt athletic or great at anything else did have a good year and good postseason workouts which got him drafted at #7,Brewer had the ideal size at 6'9 and eight at 190 to at least do something in the NBA.

[wang4three]

you make it sound like the boy got no game. he's been balling so far. not sure what you are watching.

Look at two posts above yours. It tells you how big of a fan of Derrick I am. Perhaps I should have added something for your own edification.

It's necessary criticism--he will need to work on those things to get himself ready for the NBA. Ofcourse, I'd take him #1 overall still with those faults but he'll have a Mike Conley Jr. type of season--great in some games, bland in others. Which is not bad, but you'll have to point to a mixture of those weaknesses as to why.

The most ready freshman for the NBA in my opinion is Kevin Love. He's just so well polished for the NBA. Beasley being a tweener is going to be a big adjustment at the next level. Gordon..has went from the best player in the start of the season to obscurity. Derrrick is an opportunity, but there's still a lot of questions. Kevin is ready, no doubt about it in my mind.


Brewer had horrible form and shot the ball well for like 3 games in the tournament, rose on the other hand has a good looking form and gets most of his shots off the dribble. There's room for improvement and he'll get it down in a few years.

And how many games has Derrick played? He's still shooting 65% from the line. Derrick has been shooting well but the small sample of 3 tournament games is still yet to convince me. It's still an area he'll need to work on.


brewer should have never been drafted anywhere near the first round, he's not all that athletic and has a hard time putting the ball on the floor. Can play some good defense but he can thank florida for his nice rookie contract.

I whole-heartily disagree. Corey has game. It's unfortunate that he's on a team with no real identity. Corey's a team player--he needs to be on a real team to showcase his talent. When you have guys all playing for themselves and carry a losing attitude, Corey's game gets lost in the mix. He has all-around talent and is just in the wrong situation. He wasn't a lotto pick to me, but a first rounder? Hell yes.

[thenextgreatbigman]

Derrick Rose has an ugly shooting form also.

Corey Brewer although wasnt athletic or great at anything else did have a good year and good postseason workouts which got him drafted at #7,Brewer had the ideal size at 6'9 and eight at 190 to at least do something in the NBA.
rose has a nice, guick release that you want from your point guard. Hitting that pull up jumper from the FT line can really open up the court for the whole team, in the half court and on the break.

Brewer was a stick that would have never went in the top 20 if he didn't play for florida.


I whole-heartily disagree. Corey has game. It's unfortunate that he's on a team with no real identity. Corey's a team player--he needs to be on a real team to showcase his talent. When you have guys all playing for themselves and carry a losing attitude, Corey's game gets lost in the mix. He has all-around talent and is just in the wrong situation. He wasn't a lotto pick to me, but a first rounder? Hell yes.
i loved him in college but he has role player written all over him. Not really someone i waste a lottery pick on. He could be a bruce bowen with a better offense down the road but bowen didn't even get drafted.
He'd be a solid contributor on a real team.

[The Ownage]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.
I've never seen Derrick Rose play, but this statement just made me laugh.:oldlol:

[v-unit]

Fear of needles! Haha, what, did he skip a grade, is he actually 15 or something? You don't even feel that ****. Anyways, there is so much dirty work behind the curtains in any sport, especially the NBA where you get injected with various things to help you play, if this man can't take it, it is going to be a problem unless they have pills instead.

I'm sure there have been other players before who were afraid of needles in the past though.

[Valliant13]

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=791520



Re: Rose's crying and running about in fear

Wow...that is kind of pathetic. I guess growing up in hockey nation has accustomed me to certain amount of stoicism (seeing guys get there brow stitched shut on the bench in between shifts) in these sorts of matters.

Still, the dude will likely be an amazing pro if he gets in the right situation. I just hope he lands somewhere deep enough he can come off the bench for a while and learn pure point skills from a veteran. They force him into the fire too early he will be another super athletic combo guard, instead of a matchup nightmare legit point.

[thenextgreatbigman]

Fear of needles! Haha, what, did he skip a grade, is he actually 15 or something? You don't even feel that ****. Anyways, there is so much dirty work behind the curtains in any sport, especially the NBA where you get injected with various things to help you play, if this man can't take it, it is going to be a problem unless they have pills instead.

I'm sure there have been other players before who were afraid of needles in the past though.
i'm pretty sure the whole article is a bit played up, he probably didn't want stiches and just wanted the glued on ones instead. Someone had to turn it into a big story.

And you're a retard if you think that it will get in his way in the nba and that the guys get "injected" with dirty drugs that make you play better.

[Interminator]

i'm pretty sure the whole article is a bit played up, he probably didn't want stiches and just wanted the glued on ones instead. Someone had to turn it into a big story.

And you're a retard if you think that it will get in his way in the nba and that the guys get "injected" with dirty drugs that make you play better.
^^Well some players get injections in their knees when their injured.

Imagine if a death row inmate had a fear of needles can you imagine the torture trying to inject him while hes strapped down and screaming,I can only imagine how it'd make the victim's family feel:confusedshrug:

[v-unit]

i'm pretty sure the whole article is a bit played up, he probably didn't want stiches and just wanted the glued on ones instead. Someone had to turn it into a big story.

And you're a retard if you think that it will get in his way in the nba and that the guys get "injected" with dirty drugs that make you play better.

I guess it won't be a problem for him, they'll get around it. And when I said injected with things to help them play better, I ment things to numb some pains, things like that, they play with so many injuries and right after surgeries and things like that, they they need it either for extra strength just to be at their old level, things like that, and that's a fact. I think Andris Biedrins had an epindectomy (Sp.) that Grant Hill had, while Hill was out with it for 2 weeks, Andris playeed one game with the problem, then had the surgery and came back immediatly.

[cartmanclone]

How is he Scared of Needles, Yet he has a fat tatoo on his arm

[AlThornton]

DRose was beastly today....
Special special talent.

[Samurai Swoosh]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.
Add strength? Are you kidding me? You're watching the wrong player then based on half of those dumb ass assumptions. Let's be honest, you're salty he didnt go to Illinois. Derrick Rose is extremely built for a freshman PG ... and he has a rare explosion of speed and power. It was on full display the other night against Michigan State. He'd get fouled and still finish the play.


Oh yeah, AND HE'S A FRESHMAN. All that stuff will be alieviated in time. He's still probably the best PG in the nation even given his weakness. He's a better overall player than Eric Gordon.

[Lebron23]

DRose was beastly today....
Special special talent.


He is one heck of an athlete. I think he would be an excellent scoring guard in the NBA.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Derrick Rose is a small 6'3 version of LeBron James. I kid you not. That's the best player comparison in terms of style that I can assimilate him to.

[wang4three]

Add strength? Are you kidding me? You're watching the wrong player then based on half of those dumb ass assumptions.

He's not terribly strong. That much is obvious. He's still getting picked off screens and not fighting through them well to the point that they switch on them.


Let's be honest, you're salty he didnt go to Illinois.

No. I already put in this thread that I'd take him #1 overall and I want him on my team even though we have Devin Harris and Marcus Williams. Nice job glancing over that.


Derrick Rose is extremely built for a freshman PG

Operative word: Freshman. Not for an NBA point guard which he wants to be.


... and he has a rare explosion of speed and power. It was on full display the other night against Michigan State. He'd get fouled and still finish the play.

One game, one play doesn't mean anything to me. Stephen Curry was finishing plays against Wisconsin..does that mean he's strong? No.


Oh yeah, AND HE'S A FRESHMAN. All that stuff will be alieviated in time. He's still probably the best PG in the nation even given his weakness. He's a better overall player than Eric Gordon.

Thank you captain obvious. I already posted these comments before. However you have to take into account that he has weaknesses before becoming a great point guard in the league. Everything I mentioned are noticeable weaknesses. If I'm salty he didn't go to Illinois, you're blind from the truth.

[AlThornton]

He's not terribly strong. That much is obvious. He's still getting picked off screens and not fighting through them well to the point that they switch on them.

How in the hell do you explain him leap get hit and still finish with flair(he does this at least once or twice a game). he is strong, admit it.



No. I already put in this thread that I'd take him #1 overall and I want him on my team even though we have Devin Harris and Marcus Williams. Nice job glancing over that.

Agree



Operative word: Freshman. Not for an NBA point guard which he wants to be.
He is strong for any point guard prospect. Jamont Gordon is stronger, but that doesnt mean Rose isn't strong



One game, one play doesn't mean anything to me. Stephen Curry was finishing plays against Wisconsin..does that mean he's strong? No.

He Shows off his explosion and leaping ability almost every game. But you knew that right, since you have seen him before?



Thank you captain obvious. I already posted these comments before. However you have to take into account that he has weaknesses before becoming a great point guard in the league. Everything I mentioned are noticeable weaknesses. If I'm salty he didn't go to Illinois, you're blind from the truth.

He has improved his jumpshot, still not where it needs to be, but IMO he has the work ethic to where it wont be a weakness in a few years.



he has weaknesses, but not as many as you said

[Samurai Swoosh]

Fighting through screens has next to NOTHING to do with strength. The fact that was your reasoning as to why Rose needs to get stronger, is why I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. And I mean CLEARLY.

[i seen hippos]

I can see Interminator passing on Rose if he was GM. The risk of getting cut during game 7 of the finals is too great. lol

[Da KO King]

Guess Derrick Rose has already reached the level where people get pissy when his flaws get mentioned. :confusedshrug:

[20 Dimes A Game]

And yours is ISH,limp dick,computer porn,and lack of a social life.


Sounds fair.:confusedshrug:

:roll:

[AlThornton]

Guess Derrick Rose has already reached the level where people get pissy when his flaws get mentioned. :confusedshrug:

because we feel like he is a special special player, and its just a natural feeling to get upset when a poster keeps talking about your favorite players flaws and doesn't recognize anything else about his game.


Da Ko King-
I know you were hard on him earlier in the year but even you have to admit he has taken his game to another level the last month.

[danumber88]

"Has a rare ability to create passing lanes

[ShowtymeCA2NC]

I would've also accepted: poor jumpshot, over-dribbling/palming, forces passes, needs to add strength, and defense.


r u serious:lol

[jailer]

Hes got game.

Just not a consistent mid range or outside shot.

He hits enough shots to keep the defense playing honest on him. He has so many other skills that make up for his lack of fluid range.

[CavaliersFTW]

Holy shit this just might be why he's so fragile... He's AFRAID of PED injections :biggums: