LeBron James: Leadership is my greatest advantage over Kobe

[indy]

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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: LeBron James: Leadership is my greatest advantage over Kobe

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An article is written by MyDaily Paper in Korea and I translated it.


[MyDaily = Reporter Kang Ji Hoon]

'The Pioneer Leader of Post Jordan' LeBron James (Cleveland) visited Korea to participate in 'Vita500 World Basketball Challenge 2006 and to meet with his fans.

On August 12th, James was at 'LeBron James Court' donating event in Whee-mun High School of Samsung-dong in Seoul. "I'm happy to see that the students are very pleased," said James. He greeted the fans by saying that he hopes that the students gain inspiration through basketball.

Furthermore, he mentioned that "Basketball is the world's greatest sports. I hope that the teenagers will attempt to play and learn the passion from me. Moreover, I find worth living by giving it out to the community. I know very much about the life of high school students, because I recently have graduated not too long ago. I wanted to give the opportunities for them to play basketball." Thus the reason why he donated a basketball court to Whee-mun High School

Last season, James averaged 31.4 points per game. It was a surprising stats for NBA 3-years new-coming player, but he had given the title of best scoring player to Kobe Bryant (LA Lakers), whom averaged 35.4 points per game. They're the rivals whom will meet at the superior levels for years to come.

James said "Kobe has the scoring powers and wills to score anywhere on the court. Since both Kobe and I have the wills to win, it's very fun to play games with him. But I'm inherited to lead and also born with the leadership. That is my greatest advantage compared to Kobe."
James said he respects Michael Jordan the most. "Since my childhood, I respected Jordan and he is the player that everyone has to love," said James. At press conference in Coex Intercontinental Hotel on the 12th, James said "I feel overflowing just being compared to great player like Jordan."

James participated as a member of the "Dream Team" in Athens Olympic of 2004, but Team USA have only scored a bronze model. Regarding this statement, he said "I was a rookie at that time and had no experience. But for this event, the wills to win are superior. Fellow players such as Dwayne Wade and Carmelo Anthony are also full with passions."

At 'LeBron James Court' donating event, Team USA members, Joe Johnson (Atlanta) and Chris Paul (New Orleans) have participated too. James and Paul created a fantastic slam dunk to give a wonderful and unforgettable memories to Korean fans.


uhh .:ohwell:
http://photo-media.hanmail.net/200608/12/mydaily/20060812181609.627.0.jpg

[Iskrah]

He's such a tool. A leader who keeps biting his nails and waves some pseudo tough rap sign because he likes Jay Z... The kid is like 12 in his head and he talks about leadership? Man, when he had to pick between the brains and the muscles, he sure didn't make a reasonable choice.

[kumquat]

Lebrons a douche. I'm glad wade will never be an a-hole like him.

[JSub]

I wish people would stop calling him King James. He should be Prince James until he matures a little.

[Human Error]

I think there's general consensus among NBA players that Kobe's not a good leader. James just did confirm it.

And James is premature? Come on, I've never heard or read anything about LeBron having problems with his teammates or coaches in the past and present. It's Kobe who has been having beefs with everyone around him.

LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe both on and off the floor. I'm glad that LeBron is man enough to say that. You know, anyone who says negative things on Kobe gets criticized by the press and his fans nowadays.

[Voice of Reason]

I wish people would stop calling him King James. He should be Prince James until he matures a little.

Matures? He is mature and just stated what most think. :confusedshrug:

[indy]

I think there's general consensus among NBA players that Kobe's not a good leader. James just did confirm it.

And James is premature? Come on, I've never heard or read anything about LeBron having problems with his teammates or coaches in the past and present. It's Kobe who has been having beefs with everyone around him.

LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe both on and off the floor.
key words. If Sam Smith hadn't written 'The Jordan Rules' ,perhaps we would have never heard anything about jordan.

[indy]

Matures? He is mature and just stated what most think. :confusedshrug:
For me taking a jab at your colleague without a reason is immature.
I don't think kobe is a good leader but it is not lebrons job to tell me that.

[Voice of Reason]

key words. If Sam Smith hadn't written 'The Jordan Rules' ,perhaps we would have never heard anything about jordan.

:wtf:


For me taking a jab at your colleague without a reason is immature.

Its obvious he was asked about Kobe Bryant and while he implies Kobe is the better scorer, he is a better leader. How is that a jab? You're lookin into it more than you should. Much like how the media operates to start drama and controversy.

Not Bron James job? Then maybe he shouldnt do interviews anymore giving you nothing on his views on the game of basketball and his peers. People complain when MJ doesnt give his thoughts on the game and its players especially from the past. Always taking the easy way out. Now we're upset someone is stating the obvious?

Bron has always been said to be more of a leader than Kobe by media and analysts.

[indy]

:wtf:



Its obvious he was asked about Kobe Bryant and while he implies Kobe is the better scorer, he is a better leader. How is that a jab? You're lookin into it more than you should. Much like how the media operates to start drama and controversy.
he is saying kobe isn't a leader . I believe thats a jab.

[Human Error]

he is saying kobe isn't a leader . I believe thats a jab.
I don't think that was a jab. It's not like LeBron just said that Kobe's a horrible teammate to have. He just said he feels he's a better leader than Kobe(what everyone in the NBA could easily agree).

[allball]

Damn, I smell hate. Anyway, it's the absolute truth. If you look at Kobe his first couple of years he was very immature on the court. He spoke well and you could say he was more articulate than James. But Lebron was ready at 18 and what he is saying if he said this, is one advantage he had coming into this league was that he is a natural leader and that is to his advantage and really not only over Kobe but over other players of his generation who have talent but no leadership qualities. James may be miffed about Kobe's no show for team USA and really the messed up way Kobe played it. I personally was looking forward to seeing Kobe with this team. I also think Lebron is much smarter than his diction would indicate.

[MaxFly]

Lol, here we go...

[BigTicket]

Have we really gotten to the point where you can't even be honest and speak the truth without people getting upset ? He is a better leader than Kobe, everyone knows this including the Kobe fans, so what is the problem ?

[2LeTTeRS KD]

Its people on thsi board taht would get mad if Ray Allen said shooting was his biggest advantage over Kobe. Kobe's fanboys are just sensitive and can't stand to hear someone put even the smallest ***** in Kobe's armor. It was not a jab, the young'n was just speaking the truth.

[Knoe Itawl]

Its people on thsi board taht would get mad if Ray Allen said shooting was his biggest advantage over Kobe. Kobe's fanboys are just sensitive and can't stand to hear someone put even the smallest ***** in Kobe's armor. It was not a jab, the young'n was just speaking the truth.

For real. These groupies are going to lose their minds over this. They'll hate Bron even more than they already do.

It's funny how when Bron says something positive about Kobe, they take it as the gospel, but this will be looked at as blasphemy of the highest order.

[Knoe Itawl]

Have we really gotten to the point where you can't even be honest and speak the truth without people getting upset ? He is a better leader than Kobe, everyone knows this including the Kobe fans, so what is the problem ?

Come on, you know the problem. The problem is that you cannot say ANYTHING even a little bit negative about Kobe Bryant, regardless of how true it is, without his oversensitive groupie fans crying about it.

[WADE MONEY]

dont u guys realize how obviously forged those quotes are? no way lebron talks like that

i also hope someone who knows korean calls you on that "translation"

[Cavs Fan]

Kobe is not a good leader period, so Lebron saying that's his big advantage over Kobe isn't really patting his own back. When Lebron was headed toward the NBA everyone thought he was going to be cocky and arrogant but he has surprised everyone by being somewhat humble, likeable, and down to earth. Everything that Kobe isn't. But Kobe was a monster at defense at Lebron's age, I noticed that Bron left that part out when speaking of advantages. :D

[Edge]

No way LeBron said that.

[wild orchid]

Kobe would even admit that LeBron's a better leader. Ask any player in the league who they would rather play with Kobe or LeBron. LeBron wins hands down.

[KingofKings718]

I'd still take Kobe over LeBron.

[HALLandOATES]

Jesus Christ Lebron leave it in the locker room or show you're stuff on the bball corut don't say shlt in the media like that, thats a grade a ***** move I believe.Hopefully its fake and i don't have to hate Lebron even more.

[Cavs Fan]

Ain't nothin wrong with what Lebron said if he said it. Its all true

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

For real. These groupies are going to lose their minds over this.

How you gonna talk about groupies like that when you're probably the biggest one of all time? Lovers? Haters? ALL GROUPIES and nothing more than a cyst on the ass of ish.

Pop youreslf, chump.

[HALLandOATES]

Ain't nothin wrong with what Lebron said if he said it. Its all true

That may be so but leave it the locker room or the court...Players got to stop spitting crap out about each other.They are not kids.

When ever a kobe topic is around you will find Know it all

[Voice of Reason]

Jesus Christ Lebron leave it in the locker room or show you're stuff on the bball corut don't say shlt in the media like that, thats a grade a ***** move I believe.Hopefully its fake and i don't have to hate Lebron even more.

Bron has showed his stuff. Where the hell have you been? :confusedshrug:

[K*O*B*E]

Have we really gotten to the point where you can't even be honest and speak the truth without people getting upset ? He is a better leader than Kobe, everyone knows this including the Kobe fans, so what is the problem ?
Explain how Lebron is a better leader than Kobe. Lebron is not the leader of his own team Eric Snow is.

[Voice of Reason]

That may be so but leave it the locker room or the court...Players got to stop spitting crap out about each other.They are not kids.
When ever a kobe topic is around you will find Know it all

He's 21yrs old. Mature for someone his age and didnt spit KIDDIE crap. If this article is true he gave Kobe props and then showed the seperation of the two. Kobe knock has been leadership. Bron knock wasnt. Simple.

[Voice of Reason]

Explain how Lebron is a better leader than Kobe. Lebron is not the leader of his own team Eric Snow is.

What a moron. Judging by username, i shouldnt be surprised.

[deion2123]

from a lakers forum 'Clublakers':

uhh .:ohwell:
http://photo-media.hanmail.net/200608/12/mydaily/20060812181609.627.0.jpg

and ?? everyone whos head isnt up Kobe's ass knows this

[K*O*B*E]

Kobe would even admit that LeBron's a better leader. Ask any player in the league who they would rather play with Kobe or LeBron. LeBron wins hands down.
Maybe if they like to go out to dinner with their teammates, But I bet players like KG,AI, and other older superstars would go to the lakers before cleveland for one they would have a short window to try to win a champship and they would want to play with a proven player on the big stage rather than a young stud who only been in the playoffs once so far. Second its LA or Cleveland come on fellas.Third everyone wants to play on the lakers at one time growning up sorta like the NY Yankees in baseball.

[K*O*B*E]

What a moron. Judging by username, i shouldnt be surprised.
Moron. Your the moron my friend if you were smart than you would know leadership is in many ways.

1. When teammates mess up kobe let's them know about it.
2. When teammates Play good kobe let's them know about it.
3. He invites teammates like Ronny Turiaf and Bynum to work out with him during the summer to get them better.
4. He took Turiaf and Smush to allstar weekend and Turiaf was with him the whole time.
5. He leads by example (HATERS)


Now that I think of it Lebron was just saying he is a natural leader and kobe had to grow as one.

[Knoe Itawl]

How you gonna talk about groupies like that when you're probably the biggest one of all time? Lovers? Haters? ALL GROUPIES and nothing more than a cyst on the ass of ish.

Pop youreslf, chump.

The difference between myself and them is that I was created from the Hype and overzealous groupie fans, not vice versa. Further, many people from across the spectrum have agreed with the points I make, and I never fail to back up my thoughts with details and reason instead of just saying shyt like "Kobe's the best cause I say so". Lastly, many have applauded my being here for pointing out groupie stupidity.

You, on the other hand, think you're much funnier than you are as evidenced by your lame name. I guess you try to use humor to make up for your embarassing lack of basketball knowledge, but it ain't working. It suuuuuure is funny to make fun of things like a lazy eye that a person can't helpm huh TMOGE? Hilarious. People that make fun of that kind of thing are always insecure punks. You're nothing but a lowlife, unfunny, bitter, insecure STD on the peniis of ISH.

[K*O*B*E]

The difference between myself and them is that I was created from the Hype and overzealous groupie fans, not vice versa. Further, many people from across the spectrum have agreed with the points I make, and I never fail to back up my thoughts with details and reason instead of just saying shyt like "Kobe's the best cause I say so". Lastly, many have applauded my being here for pointing out groupie stupidity.

You, on the other hand, think you're much funnier than you are as evidenced by your lame name. I guess you try to use humor to make up for your embarassing lack of basketball knowledge, but it ain't working. It suuuuuure is funny to make fun of things like a lazy eye that a person can't helpm huh TMOGE? Hilarious. People that make fun of that kind of thing are always insecure punks. You're nothing but a lowlife, unfunny, bitter, insecure STD on the peniis of ISH.
dude alot of people make fun of stuff like that there called comedians. you just a bitter,lowlife, no humor having ***** of ISH.

[Cavs Fan]

Repeat after me


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"

"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"


"Kobe is not a good leader"






No one other than a Kobe nutcase has ever said that Kobe was a good leader.

[HALLandOATES]

He's 21yrs old. Mature for someone his age and didnt spit KIDDIE crap. If this article is true he gave Kobe props and then showed the seperation of the two. Kobe knock has been leadership. Bron knock wasnt. Simple.

If he said it thats all that matters, thats enough to plss someone off and sure would make me mad if I was Kobe. I'm trying to look at it from Kobes view and wouldn't be surprised if he fired back. This is how crap happens just by little things that tweek people. And by the way if this is going to turn into a Kobe stat line thread then I'm quickly leaving and going to leave it up to Loki and Knowitawl to finish it of the mess of a thread it would turn into be.

Lebron made these comments straight to Kobe, that makes it personal ....So what if its true? It came out of Lebrons mouth and no one elses.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

The difference between myself and them is that I was created from the Hype and overzealous groupie fans, not vice versa. Further, many people from across the spectrum have agreed with the points I make, and I never fail to back up my thoughts with details and reason instead of just saying shyt like "Kobe's the best cause I say so". Lastly, many have applauded my being here for pointing out groupie stupidity.

You, on the other hand, think you're much funnier than you are as evidenced by your lame name. I guess you try to use humor to make up for your embarassing lack of basketball knowledge, but it ain't working. It suuuuuure is funny to make fun of things like a lazy eye that a person can't helpm huh TMOGE? Hilarious. People that make fun of that kind of thing are always insecure punks. You're nothing but a lowlife, unfunny, bitter, insecure STD on the peniis of ISH.

You're a dumbass. You're a groupie and knoeit. Your whole life is a constant struggle because every morning when you wake up and head to the restroom, open the cabinet, pop an anti-depressant then close the cabinet and see yourself in the mirror all you see is a Kobe groupie in your reflection. It kills you.

Hypocrite. You're that guy hanging out on the corner with his boys 24/7 talking about how he hates deadbeat dads while his wife and kids sit at home in a bum apartment with no lights or heat.

[Knoe Itawl]

You're a dumbass. You're a groupie and knoeit. Your whole life is a constant struggle because every morning when you wake up and head to the restroom, open the cabinet, pop an anti-depressant then close the cabinet and see yourself in the mirror all you see is a Kobe groupie in your reflection. It kills you.

Hypocrite. You're that guy hanging out on the corner with his boys 24/7 talking about how he hates deadbeat dads while his wife and kids sit at home in a bum apartment with no lights or heat.

Riiiiiiiiiiight, whatever you say. See how I don't even acknowledge you on here, except when YOU come at me first? It's not because I don't think you're a lame idiot, it's because I just don't care enough about you to attack your many flaws.

You on the other hand notice me, and my superior intellect kills you so much that you just have to come at me. You're the one with Knoe Itawl on the mind chump, just like all the others. I just talk ball and that's IT until someone comes at me.

Chumps like you catch feelings, that's why you'll always be a Knoe Groupie just like the Bryant fans.

Try debating me on basketball bytch boy. I outgrew the personal shyt a long time ago, except occassionally when I have to point out the straight p*ssy in a guy like you.

[HALLandOATES]

Tmoge humor is great every once in a while but it gets old because of his lack of bball knowledge. I mean he is on a NBA board for gods sake and refuses to talk about anything rather then bball. Got a great movie to talk about? Theres Tmoge. Making fun of one of ISH regulars? Theres Tmoge.Im jk btw

[JtotheIzzo]

Lovin the harshness of this thread right now.

Simple fact of the matter is that they have both been the leader of their team for two years.
for Kobe as soon as Diesel left, and for Bron first game of his sophmore year (rookies never lead).
right now LeBron is a better leader, and took HIS team (previous LAL teams werent Kobe's, they were Shaq's) further than Kobe took his...end of story, LeBron was speaking the truth.

[thenextgreatbigman]

Maybe if they like to go out to dinner with their teammates, But I bet players like KG,AI, and other older superstars would go to the lakers before cleveland for one they would have a short window to try to win a champship and they would want to play with a proven player on the big stage rather than a young stud who only been in the playoffs once so far. Second its LA or Cleveland come on fellas.Third everyone wants to play on the lakers at one time growning up sorta like the NY Yankees in baseball.
the only reason they would pick the lakers is beacuse they're in LA but if they had to pick kobe or lebron for their team, 90% of the stars in this league would pick lebron.

[K*O*B*E]

Lovin the harshness of this thread right now.

Simple fact of the matter is that they have both been the leader of their team for two years.
for Kobe as soon as Diesel left, and for Bron first game of his sophmore year (rookies never lead).
right now LeBron is a better leader, and took HIS team (previous LAL teams werent Kobe's, they were Shaq's) further than Kobe took his...end of story, LeBron was speaking the truth.
he made it to the second round in the east after playing washington. kobe got put out in the first round of the west playing phoenix.

washington,phoenix a big difference

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Riiiiiiiiiiight, whatever you say. See how I don't even acknowledge you on here, except when YOU come at me first? It's not because I don't think you're a lame idiot, it's because I just don't care enough about you to attack your many flaws.

You on the other hand notice me, and my superior intellect kills you so much that you just have to come at me. You're the one with Knoe Itawl on the mind chump, just like all the others. I just talk ball and that's IT until someone comes at me.

Chumps like you catch feelings, that's why you'll always be a Knoe Groupie just like the Bryant fans.

Try debating me on basketball bytch boy. I outgrew the personal shyt a long time ago, except occassionally when I have to point out the straight p*ssy in a guy like you.


:roll: You don't acknowledge anyone on here but supposed "Kobe groupies." You're basketball knoweldge is like that of a pervert who only watches one porn star and one porn star only. I have never seen you in a topic not about Kobe. You spend your whole life here hating on one player who you will never meet and who will never even know you exist. Your whole persona is a gotdamn sham.

Maybe one day you'll wake up and realize you're wasting your time spending all your time here hating on one single player and will start following the actual NBA and all the other grear players and athletes in the league.

I mean, look at yourself, you talk in the third person fer chrisakes. Who does that? Adults sure don't unless their trying to get a laugh. You aint trying to get a laugh, you're trying to emphasize a point that anyone who hates on you is a Knoeitawl groupie. :roll:

Damn, homie. Give it a rest. See what else is out there in terms of NBA players, you might find something you like.

God bless.
Knoes #1 Groupie.

[wild orchid]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10622231/

[thenextgreatbigman]

he made it to the second round in the east after playing washington. kobe got put out in the first round of the west playing phoenix.

washington,phoenix a big difference
and then almost beat the pistons, a team kobe couldn't even get close to beating with shaq/payton/mailman on his team

[JtotheIzzo]

he made it to the second round in the east after playing washington. kobe got put out in the first round of the west playing phoenix.

washington,phoenix a big difference

who stepped up their game from regular season to playoffs, and who disappeared when their team needed him most (4th quarter, game seven).
As much as you love Kobe, a leader is not someone who flakes out when their teammates are looking to them for
...hmmm ,
...what is the word I am looking for???...oh yeah...LEADERSHIP

[Knoe Itawl]

God bless.
Knoes #1 Groupie.

Exactly.

Therefore, any of your nonsense is to be dismissed with the rest of the groupies. I'm above your level, and in your head.

But hey, at least you can admit it. That's the first step in seeking help.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Exactly.

Therefore, any of your nonsense is to be dismissed with the rest of the groupies. I'm above your level, and in your head.

But hey, at least you can admit it. That's the first step in seeking help.

Hey, Knoe, let's make a bet. I'm sure you're man enough to take this bet. Lets see you not post about Kobe for two weeks. Lets see you talk ball for two straight weeks.

You know what? To be fair, I'll do the same, for the next two weeks my posts will be on basketball only and no ot's and no humor just pure basketball knowledge.

Are you a bytch? Or are you gonna take it? Don't bytch out.

[Dick Biggly]

:roll: People getting their panties in a bunch over a fake quote. Show me a legit link please.

[Cavs Fan]

who stepped up their game from regular season to playoffs, and who disappeared when their team needed him most (4th quarter, game seven).
As much as you love Kobe, a leader is not someone who flakes out when their teammates are looking to them for
...hmmm ,
...what is the word I am looking for???...oh yeah...LEADERSHIP


I'd like to see a Kobe fan answer this quote.



What kind of leader gives up on his team like that?


Or how about all this games during the regular season where Kobe just flat out refused to score in a half? What's up with that?

[Edge]

TmacsOneGoodEye just owned the idiot known as Ho Itawl.

[wild orchid]

Maybe if they like to go out to dinner with their teammates, But I bet players like KG,AI, and other older superstars would go to the lakers before cleveland for one they would have a short window to try to win a champship and they would want to play with a proven player on the big stage rather than a young stud who only been in the playoffs once so far. Second its LA or Cleveland come on fellas.Third everyone wants to play on the lakers at one time growning up sorta like the NY Yankees in baseball.

:rollingeyes: :rollingeyes: You don't really believe people want to play for the Lakers do you? Well that may have been the case when Shaq was the leader and people took less money to come to the Lakers but now???.... There is a reason Smush Parker is the starting PG for the Lakers, nobody else wants to be there.
The only thing Kobe has proven is that he can score a lot of points if he takes a lot of shots. Since Shaq left they have been a lottery team and a barely 7th seed.

[K*O*B*E]

and then almost beat the pistons, a team kobe couldn't even get close to beating with shaq/payton/mailman on his team
I don't know if you watch basketball or not but the pistons team Lebron faced was no where near as good as Larry Brown's pistons I sorry buddy roster check

Pg. Billups/James/Hunter
Sg. Hamiliton/James/S.Parker
Sf. Prince/Willamson/
Pf. Wallace/Okur
C. Wallace/Okur/Milicic

Extremely deep with Memhet Okur and Mike James off the bench plus they were hungry lebron faced a waterdowned flip sauders piston. don't compare that please.

[JtotheIzzo]

I don't know if you watch basketball or not put the pistons team Lebron faced was no where near as good as Larry Brown's pistons I sorry buddy roster check

Pg. Billups/James/Hunter
Sg. Hamiliton/James/S.Parker
Sf. Prince/Willamson/
Pf. Wallace/Okur
C. Wallace/Okur/Milicic

Extremely deep with Memhet Okur and Mike James off the bench plus they were hungry lebron faced a waterdowned flip sauders piston. don't compare that please.

excuses are like as$holes, we all have one, know one, and can smell them from a far. Why cant you Kobe lovers accept the fact that your favorite player is good but not the best at everything? WHY?WHY?WHY?

[Edge]

:rollingeyes: :rollingeyes: You don't really believe people want to play for the Lakers do you? Well that may have been the case when Shaq was the leader and people took less money to come to the Lakers but now???.... There is a reason Smush Parker is the starting PG for the Lakers, nobody else wants to be there.
The only thing Kobe has proven is that he can score a lot of points if he takes a lot of shots. Since Shaq left they have been a lottery team and a barely 7th seed.


You're a freakin idiot, you know that?

[K*O*B*E]

:rollingeyes: :rollingeyes: You don't really believe people want to play for the Lakers do you? Well that may have been the case when Shaq was the leader and people took less money to come to the Lakers but now???.... There is a reason Smush Parker is the starting PG for the Lakers, nobody else wants to be there.
The only thing Kobe has proven is that he can score a lot of points if he takes a lot of shots. Since Shaq left they have been a lottery team and a barely 7th seed.
There is a reason Smush Parker is the starting PG for the Lakers

yeah it sure is it's called CAP SPACE DUMBASS

[wild orchid]

You're a freakin idiot, you know that?

LOL @ you.

[wild orchid]

There is a reason Smush Parker is the starting PG for the Lakers

yeah it sure is it's called CAP SPACE DUMBASS

awww sookie sookie now. boo boo is mad cause nobody wants to play with Kobe! The Lakers had cap space issues when the signed Malone & Payton. They just got them to sign for less.There are a lot of teams that have cap space issues but they don't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

[K*O*B*E]

awww sookie sookie now. boo boo is mad cause nobody wants to play with Kobe! The Lakers had cap space issues when the signed Malone & Payton. They just got them to sign for less.There are a lot of teams that have cap space issues but they don't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

:stupid: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[MaxFly]

Lol, people are actually catching feelings over this. Bryant groupies are blowing this out of proportion and aren't even sure the quote is legitimate... Wow, pick your battles. If Bryant said that his advantage over Lebron was that he is a superior defender, you guys wouldn't say anything. Let it go.

[Knoe Itawl]

Hey, Knoe, let's make a bet. I'm sure you're man enough to take this bet. Lets see you not post about Kobe for two weeks. Lets see you talk ball for two straight weeks.

You know what? To be fair, I'll do the same, for the next two weeks my posts will be on basketball only and no ot's and no humor just pure basketball knowledge.

Are you a bytch? Or are you gonna take it? Don't bytch out.

First of all, I'm not here to amuse you, I'm here to amuse myself. Therefore, 5th grade level tests of "manhood" like "if you don't take this bet you're a bytch" don't interest me.

Second of all, the bet implies that I don't talk about other aspects of basketball, which is plain false. I'll challenge you to find the last Kobe thread I made. I can't even remember the last time I started one going back to the regular season. If you want to pretend that I'm equal to groupies starting posts like "Yeah, stupid question but who's the most clutch in the NBA" style Bryant lovefests, then that's on you. Your schtick is poor humor, poor attempts at being a film critic, and poor basketball commentary. Oh, and poor sportsmanship towards the Heat. And no matter how lame I think it is, I don't care enough about you to try to flame you and derail a thread into off subject madness.

So I'll challenge YOU to debate me on the issue, whatever it is be it Kobe, or other parts of basketball and stay on subject and if you disagree with me state it with detailed reasoning and avoid any flamewar garbage. And I'll do the same with you, regardless of how wrong you're sure to be.

Are you going to accept or bytch out? Don't bytch out

[Knoe Itawl]

TmacsOneGoodEye just owned the idiot known as Ho Itawl.

At least stop being a coward and admit you're dizzle. Anyone with any intelligence sees your special brand of stupidity a mile away.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

First of all, I'm not here to amuse you, I'm here to amuse myself. Therefore, 5th grade level tests of "manhood" like "if you don't take this bet you're a bytch" don't interest me.

I knew you wouldn't take the bet. You ask any groupie (lover, hater, all the same) to not talk about Kobe and instead talk about just ball minus Kobe for two weeks and they can't do it. It's plain pathetic.

If you were to ask a "kobe groupie" to stop talking about Kobe, and they didn't, couldn't, wouldn't have it, that would prove that they were a groupie, right?

I rest my case.

Gotdamn groupie scum can't talk about ball unless it involves Kobe. Your guys lack of knowledge is pathetic. And you call yourself Knoeitawl. :roll:

[Knoe Itawl]

I knew you wouldn't take the bet. You ask any groupie (lover, hater, all the same) to not talk about Kobe and instead talk about just ball minus Kobe for two weeks and they can't do it. It's plain pathetic.

If you were to ask a "kobe groupie" to stop talking about Kobe, and they didn't, couldn't, wouldn't have it, that would prove that they were a groupie, right?

I rest my case.

Gotdamn groupie scum can't talk about ball unless it involves Kobe. Your guys lack of knowledge is pathetic. And you call yourself Knoeitawl. :roll:

Just as I figured. There was nothing unreasonable about the last part of my post but just like the groupie you are, you're more interested in being just another bitter loser on my dikk than actually debating an issue.

Oh, and your overly emotional response just proves that I'm in your head.

Edit: What the hell does "Your guys lack of knowledge is pathetic" even mean? More unintelligible groupie ramblings I guess.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

See, Knoe, you just pulled the typical groupie move. I challenge you to not talk about Kobe for two weeks and you go "Oh, I can't do that, but I dare you to....!"

Typical groupie move, you can't get Kobe out of your head and so you try and change the subject.

If you asked Dizzle, or Allaround, or even yourself to not talk about Kobe for two weeks and they said "No, I can't do that...I dare you to...!" you'd be *****ing about how they can't do it then you go do the same damn thing here.

Why can't you NOT talk about Kobe for two weeks? What's so hard about that? Is it cause you have no bball knowledge outside of your hate for Kobe? You claim to have bball knowledge outside Kobe but never prove it, all talk, no walk. Lets see you prove it. Lets see you talk nothing but ball minus Kobe for two weeks. Prove it, chump.

Of course you won't, you'll just challenge me to a different bet because that's how groupies like you do when challenged with showing your bball knowledge and NOT talking about Kobe. You just can't do it.

"Groupie scum"

[Twiens]

who stepped up their game from regular season to playoffs, and who disappeared when their team needed him most (4th quarter, game seven).
As much as you love Kobe, a leader is not someone who flakes out when their teammates are looking to them for
...hmmm ,
...what is the word I am looking for???...oh yeah...LEADERSHIP

I hope your joking. Kobe didn't step up his play in the playoffs? No matter what he does, he'll always get blamed for it.

Scores 81 points..............selfish ballhog who doesn't care about the team.
Plays the team game.......selfish passer who should shoot more.

BTW, I bet Lebron didnt say that, he's Kobes biggest fan.

[Twiens]

You don't acknowledge anyone on here but supposed "Kobe groupies." You're basketball knoweldge is like that of a pervert who only watches one porn star and one porn star only. I have never seen you in a topic not about Kobe. You spend your whole life here hating on one player who you will never meet and who will never even know you exist. Your whole persona is a gotdamn sham.

Maybe one day you'll wake up and realize you're wasting your time spending all your time here hating on one single player and will start following the actual NBA and all the other grear players and athletes in the league.

I mean, look at yourself, you talk in the third person fer chrisakes. Who does that? Adults sure don't unless their trying to get a laugh. You aint trying to get a laugh, you're trying to emphasize a point that anyone who hates on you is a Knoeitawl groupie.

Damn, homie. Give it a rest. See what else is out there in terms of NBA players, you might find something you like.

God bless.
Knoes #1 Groupie.

Take that Groupie Scum! :roll:

[HALLandOATES]

Debate on whether or not the Chicago Bulls are contenders or not

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2004/10/08/1097285233_8556.jpg

[Edge]

See, Knoe, you just pulled the typical groupie move. I challenge you to not talk about Kobe for two weeks and you go "Oh, I can't do that, but I dare you to....!"

Typical groupie move, you can't get Kobe out of your head and so you try and change the subject.

If you asked Dizzle, or Allaround, or even yourself to not talk about Kobe for two weeks and they said "No, I can't do that...I dare you to...!" you'd be *****ing about how they can't do it then you go do the same damn thing here.

Why can't you NOT talk about Kobe for two weeks? What's so hard about that? Is it cause you have no bball knowledge outside of your hate for Kobe? You claim to have bball knowledge outside Kobe but never prove it, all talk, no walk. Lets see you prove it. Lets see you talk nothing but ball minus Kobe for two weeks. Prove it, chump.

Of course you won't, you'll just challenge me to a different bet because that's how groupies like you do when challenged with showing your bball knowledge and NOT talking about Kobe. You just can't do it.

"Groupie scum"


:roll: OWNAGE!!!

Knoe is a groupie scum!!!

[Knoe Itawl]

Your schtick is poor humor, poor attempts at being a film critic, and poor basketball commentary. Oh, and poor sportsmanship towards the Heat. And no matter how lame I think it is, I don't care enough about you to try to flame you and derail a thread into off subject madness.

^^^^^^^^ This is going to be my stock response to you from now on TMac, unless you want to debate me on an issue concerning ball. I have no interest in the personal back and forth crap.

If you keep it going, it just shows who's really on who's mind, and the mods can decide if this type of off subject nonsense is what they want polluting the board.

[Edge]

Your schtick is poor humor, poor attempts at being a film critic, and poor basketball commentary. Oh, and poor sportsmanship towards the Heat. And no matter how lame I think it is, I don't care enough about you to try to flame you and derail a thread into off subject madness.

^^^^^^^^ This is going to be my stock response to you from now on TMac, unless you want to debate me on an issue concerning ball. I have no interest in the personal back and forth crap.

If you keep it going, it just shows who's really on who's mind, and the mods can decide if this type of off subject nonsense is what they want polluting the board.

What a moron. :roll:

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Deal. And my stock response to you will be.

"Anyone who reads this thread can see that I challenged you to not talk about Kobe for two weeks, to which you admitted you couldn't do it and instead tried to challenge me to a debate ABOUT KOBE, thus proving you're nothing but groupie scum with no bball knowledge outside of Kobe."

[Knoe Itawl]

Debate on whether or not the Chicago Bulls are contenders or not

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2004/10/08/1097285233_8556.jpg

Personally, I don't believe the Bulls are contenders. Wallace is on the decline and his lack of offensive prowess was glaring in the playoffs last year. What happens when teams in the playoffs once again pull the "Hack a Ben" technique? What happens when they need a key post score? He will improve the squad, but their lack of experience along with Ben's deficiencies in scoring will come back to haunt them.

I am looking forward to seeing what the Bulls look like next year, and am looking forward to seeing them play with Ben, but a title is not in the picture for them yet.

[Knoe Itawl]

Deal. And my stock response to you will be.

"Anyone who reads this thread can see that I challenged you to not talk about Kobe for two weeks, to which you admitted you couldn't do it and instead tried to challenge me to a debate ABOUT KOBE, thus proving you're nothing but groupie scum with no bball knowledge outside of Kobe."

Whatever you say. Somehow I don't think you'll need to use it too much since I never even notice you until you say something to me.

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

Good points, Knoe. Personally, I feel they will be a contender in the east. It's not like they are THAT inexperienced. They have made the playoffs. Outside of the Heat (who are the onyl true contenders in the east imo) anyone can rise to contender status.

It kind of doesn't count since you made a post not about Kobe in a Kobe thread, but I'll give it to you.

You only got 13 more days left with no Kobe talk. I'm proud of you.

[Twiens]

Personally, I don't believe the Bulls are contenders. Wallace is on the decline and his lack of offensive prowess was glaring in the playoffs last year. What happens when teams in the playoffs once again pull the "Hack a Ben" technique? What happens when they need a key post score? He will improve the squad, but their lack of experience along with Ben's deficiencies in scoring will come back to haunt them.

I am looking forward to seeing what the Bulls look like next year, and am looking forward to seeing them play with Ben, but a title is not in the picture for them yet.

Nice job Knoe, a Non-Kobe post. :applause:

[Diesel J]

who stepped up their game from regular season to playoffs, and who disappeared when their team needed him most (4th quarter, game seven).
As much as you love Kobe, a leader is not someone who flakes out when their teammates are looking to them for
...hmmm ,
...what is the word I am looking for???...oh yeah...LEADERSHIP

:applause:

[AKA AAP]

The thing about the Dallas Mavericks is that they are not men, they are boys out there when it comes time to winning a championship. When the other team plays great hard nosed defense and offense, the Mavericks giggle like little girls and play the series as if it was a flop-a-thon.

Dallas may be a contender during the regular season, and they may luck out against the Spurs once every decade in the playoffs, but when it comes time to actually winning it all, they go back to their pretender ways.

They don't have the mindset, they don't have the passion, and they don't have the heart.

[Edge]

:rockon: lol

[TMacsOneGoodEye]

The thing about the Dallas Mavericks is that they are not men, they are boys out there when it comes time to winning a championship. When the other team plays great hard nosed defense and offense, the Mavericks giggle like little girls and play the series as if it was a flop-a-thon.

Dallas may be a contender during the regular season, and they may luck out against the Spurs once every decade in the playoffs, but when it comes time to actually winning it all, they go back to their pretender ways.

They don't have the mindset, they don't have the passion, and they don't have the heart.

You're not even in the right thread, dumbass. :roll:

[The Mamba]

I don't think Bron was taking a jab. Not at all. He was asked a question, and he didn't respond in a condescending manner. He clearly states Kobe is a better scorer than him. And that is by all means, blatantly obvious. Just as it is obvious, that LeBron James is a more innate and natural leader than Kobe. LeBron can relate to people. He is humurous. LeBron plays good cop / bad cop. Which is for the most part, the most effective way to be a leader. He doesn't berate his teammates on the sideline, like you'd see Kobe do to Sasha. Sometimes for people who are the best at what they do (Kobe) it his hard to translate that to people not on your level. Jordan had the same problem for YEARS. It wasn't until he was able to mentor Pippen, who was closest to his level, but Pippen was a better leader than Jordan. So Pippen spread the leadership down to the rest of the Bulls. Like a trickle down effect. And this is why Jordan's relationship was so strong with Pippen in the second three-peat. They had a mutual understanding.

To be a good leader, you can't JUST give negative reinforcment. Which Kobe tends to do, because it is frusterating for him to deal with his teammates. LeBron gives both, positive and negative reinforcement. Which is the best way to go. So yes, in all, or as of right now ... LeBron is a better leader.

[RidonKs]

I don't think Bron was taking a jab. Not at all. He was asked a question, and he didn't respond in a condescending manner. He clearly states Kobe is a better scorer than him. And that is by all means, blatantly obvious. Just as it is obvious, that LeBron James is a more innate and natural leader than Kobe. LeBron can relate to people. He is humurous. LeBron plays good cop / bad cop. Which is for the most part, the most effective way to be a leader. He doesn't berate his teammates on the sideline, like you'd see Kobe do to Sasha. Sometimes for people who are the best at what they do (Kobe) it his hard to translate that to people not on your level. Jordan had the same problem for YEARS. It wasn't until he was able to mentor Pippen, who was closest to his level, but Pippen was a better leader than Jordan. So Pippen spread the leadership down to the rest of the Bulls. Like a trickle down effect. And this is why Jordan's relationship was so strong with Pippen in the second three-peat. They had a mutual understanding.

To be a good leader, you can't JUST give negative reinforcment. Which Kobe tends to do, because it is frusterating for him to deal with his teammates. LeBron gives both, positive and negative reinforcement. Which is the best way to go. So yes, in all, or as of right now ... LeBron is a better leader.

Good call.

[RidonKs]

At first when I read thi thread, I was think that it was pretty immature for LeBron to say something like that about Kobe. No matter how true it is (and it is true, obviously), it still isn't the right thing to do in that situation, and calling out another players weakness in the media is just stupid. But then I thoughy, if LeBron was asked a question like "What is your biggest advantage over Kobe Bryant" or "How do you compare to Kobe Bryant", then there's really no other way to answer it. He didn't come off as arrogant, because he admitted something about himself, as well as stating something "negative about Kobe. In the end, I really don't think he could have said anything less offensive, and when you're put on the spot like that, it's hard. So IMO, it wasn't an immature thing that LeBron did.

That is, if this article is even true. Where's this damn source?

[The Mamba]

On the same tokken. LeBron has downright admitted Kobe is the best player in the game. And that he has a killer instinct that he had yet to develop, which seperates them greatly. I think Bron is par for the course. He is speaking truth.

[The Mamba]

Who knows... with Kobe, this could push him to research and study effective ways to be a better leader. And that is why Kobe is the best. He is always making himself better, working on any sign of a weakness.

[RidonKs]

Heh, your pic makes Kobe look like he as a big fro.

[The Mamba]

LOL, It is just a desiugn. But the funny thing is, in the small version for my avatar... look at his forehead. There is like a shape to it, but for some reason it looks like the EXACT shape of a Nike swoosh. Hahaha. This ad is from a Nike promo. But I found that weird, lol.

[indy]

http://bbs.chinahoop.com/Dv_UPLOADFILE/2006-7/20067251129724424.jpg

http://bbs.chinahoop.com/Dv_UPLOADFILE/2006-7/200672511284591501.jpg

there are some youth pics of kobe on the clublakers

[laker24]

Better teammate yes.

Better leader I don't know yet, it's to early to call it. But I think he will be.

[hotsizzle]

I'm not criticizing lebron for what he said, and I actually think that players should be more like that to create rivalries and make it more exciting... but anyways, if kobe had said somethin like that, people be all over him on how hes arrogant, selfish, blah blah blah.

[The Mamba]

I'm not criticizing lebron for what he said, and I actually think that players should be more like that to create rivalries and make it more excinting... but anyways, if kobe had said somethin like that, people be all over him on how hes arrogant, selfish, blah blah blah.
True as well.

[tontoz]

You on the other hand notice me, and my superior intellect


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/ricardomontalban9.jpg



I'll challenge you to find the last Kobe thread I made



They have a sticky now for Kobe groupies like you. Unfortunately you clowns can't seem to stay there due to your obsessive need for self/Kobe promotion.

[RidonKs]

LOL, It is just a desiugn. But the funny thing is, in the small version for my avatar... look at his forehead. There is like a shape to it, but for some reason it looks like the EXACT shape of a Nike swoosh. Hahaha. This ad is from a Nike promo. But I found that weird, lol.

:roll: Nice, didn't notice that before. That pic's got it all.

[Younggrease]

from a lakers forum 'Clublakers':

uhh .:ohwell:
http://photo-media.hanmail.net/200608/12/mydaily/20060812181609.627.0.jpg

Great leadership skills bron

[geeWiz15]

If Kobe is such a great leader, how come he can't take a team to the playoffs unless he has Phil Jackson to get his teammates ass in gear? Kobe isn't a leader, this has been proven time and time again, in fact he's so much of a non-leader that it's laughable. The guy does not relate with people, he has a fraudulent, contrived personality, and he has proven that unless he has a LEADER on his team (Shaq, Phil) he is going NOWHERE. How anybody can find James statement objectionable is a mystery to me.


Matures? He is mature and just stated what most think.
Exactly. For some reason people get all offended when celebrities say things we've all thought. Like they don't have the right to answer a reporter's question honestly.

Frankly, I don't think Lebron actually said that. Mainly because he has a media coach and has not said one single solitary honest opinion of his since he entered the league; why would he start now? He's almost as fake with the media as Kobe is. I can't see him being this candid.

[Younggrease]

If Kobe is such a great leader, how come he can't take a team to the playoffs unless he has Phil Jackson to get his teammates ass in gear? Kobe isn't a leader, this has been proven time and time again, in fact he's so much of a non-leader that it's laughable. The guy does not relate with people, he has a fraudulent, contrived personality, and he has proven that unless he has a LEADER on his team (Shaq, Phil) he is going NOWHERE. How anybody can find James statement objectionable is a mystery to me.


Exactly. For some reason people get all offended when celebrities say things we've all thought. Like they don't have the right to answer a reporter's question honestly.

Frankly, I don't think Lebron actually said that. Mainly because he has a media coach and has not said one single solitary honest opinion of his since he entered the league; why would he start now? He's almost as fake with the media as Kobe is. I can't see him being this candid.

He took shots at kobe the whole tourney. It doesnt matter if its true, it doesnt need to be said. Its an immature comment. MAybe he should spend less time worrying about himself in comparison to kobe and work on his jumper. Like it or not Kobe is one of the 20-40 greatest players ever. Lebron will get there barring injury but he needs to show him some respect, and LEbron this summer did not do it.

[exit]

If Kobe is such a great leader, how come he can't take a team to the playoffs unless he has Phil Jackson to get his teammates ass in gear? Kobe isn't a leader, this has been proven time and time again, in fact he's so much of a non-leader that it's laughable. The guy does not relate with people, he has a fraudulent, contrived personality, and he has proven that unless he has a LEADER on his team (Shaq, Phil) he is going NOWHERE. How anybody can find James statement objectionable is a mystery to me.

agreed. kobe will only be a great player. because of his flawed personality i don't think he will ever become a great leader like shaq/jordan/magic. never.

[Younggrease]

So if someone asked Kobe why US lost? And he responded that the young players PAul, Wade, and LEbron cant shoot jumpshots or play defense. Would that be wrong??? ITs true but it doesnt need to be said.

[geeWiz15]

So if someone asked Kobe why US lost? And he responded that the young players PAul, Wade, and LEbron cant shoot jumpshots or play defense. Would that be wrong??? ITs true but it doesnt need to be said.
so you're against honesty? if it's true, and the media wants to know the truth, and you tell them the truth, well, I'm still looking for the immaturity there. where is it?

[r32soul]

lebron might be right that he is a better leader.. but he shouldn't be saying anything until he leads his team to winning a championship.. hell.. win a silver or a gold for once until you call yourself a leader..

[Younggrease]

so you're against honesty? if it's true, and the media wants to know the truth, and you tell them the truth, well, I'm still looking for the immaturity there. where is it?

its there your just too immature to see it

[BFRESH44]

All I know is Lebron James is more mature at & way more of leader than Kobe Bryant was at 21(not even close either)...

That is a fact.

[PMshooter]

I can't blame LeBron for not being humble (other than it kind of works against his argument of being a good leader). He's 21, dominating the league, making more money than the past three or four generations of his family have made combined, getting chicks left and right no doubt, parties, shoe contracts, free shwag. You name it, this kid's had it thrown at him because of his game. Of course he's going to have an inflated ego and say things that make him sound like he has a superiority complex. If I had to bet, I'd say he's probably a complete douche to be around.

He's still hella fun to watch on the court though.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

But I'm inherited to lead and also born with the leadership.

It's not a jab at Kobe at all. Brons means he came into the league and had to be the leader of the Cavs. Not the case with Kobe.

[Targus]

^ exactly

[Snow]

Frankly, I don't think Lebron actually said that. Mainly because he has a media coach and has not said one single solitary honest opinion of his since he entered the league; why would he start now? He's almost as fake with the media as Kobe is. I can't see him being this candid.


Lebron is a better leader than Kobe which is blatantly true to anybody but the most fearsome Kobe lovers. But I can easily see Lebron slipping up and being candid with the media. He is not as guarded with the media compared to a Kobe Bryant or a Tiger Woods, nor does he possess the ability to pick and choose his words as carefully as them. The reason is simply that he's not that bright. With an average intelligence at best, he pales in comparison to Kobe's smarts and articulation.

[Diamonds]

I don't think Bron was taking a jab. Not at all. He was asked a question, and he didn't respond in a condescending manner. He clearly states Kobe is a better scorer than him. And that is by all means, blatantly obvious. Just as it is obvious, that LeBron James is a more innate and natural leader than Kobe. LeBron can relate to people. He is humurous. LeBron plays good cop / bad cop. Which is for the most part, the most effective way to be a leader. He doesn't berate his teammates on the sideline, like you'd see Kobe do to Sasha. Sometimes for people who are the best at what they do (Kobe) it his hard to translate that to people not on your level. Jordan had the same problem for YEARS. It wasn't until he was able to mentor Pippen, who was closest to his level, but Pippen was a better leader than Jordan. So Pippen spread the leadership down to the rest of the Bulls. Like a trickle down effect. And this is why Jordan's relationship was so strong with Pippen in the second three-peat. They had a mutual understanding.

To be a good leader, you can't JUST give negative reinforcment. Which Kobe tends to do, because it is frusterating for him to deal with his teammates. LeBron gives both, positive and negative reinforcement. Which is the best way to go. So yes, in all, or as of right now ... LeBron is a better leader.
very good post ! I'm impressed. Not that you're a bad poster, but it's because you have Kobe as your avatar. I couldn't have phrased it better.

[eliteballer]

jungbum



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 622
Location: Hawai'i
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: LeBron James: Leadership is my greatest advantage over Kobe

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An article is written by MyDaily Paper in Korea and I translated it.


[MyDaily = Reporter Kang Ji Hoon]

'The Pioneer Leader of Post Jordan' LeBron James (Cleveland) visited Korea to participate in 'Vita500 World Basketball Challenge 2006 and to meet with his fans.

On August 12th, James was at 'LeBron James Court' donating event in Whee-mun High School of Samsung-dong in Seoul. "I'm happy to see that the students are very pleased," said James. He greeted the fans by saying that he hopes that the students gain inspiration through basketball.

Furthermore, he mentioned that "Basketball is the world's greatest sports. I hope that the teenagers will attempt to play and learn the passion from me. Moreover, I find worth living by giving it out to the community. I know very much about the life of high school students, because I recently have graduated not too long ago. I wanted to give the opportunities for them to play basketball." Thus the reason why he donated a basketball court to Whee-mun High School

Last season, James averaged 31.4 points per game. It was a surprising stats for NBA 3-years new-coming player, but he had given the title of best scoring player to Kobe Bryant (LA Lakers), whom averaged 35.4 points per game. They're the rivals whom will meet at the superior levels for years to come.

James said "Kobe has the scoring powers and wills to score anywhere on the court. Since both Kobe and I have the wills to win, it's very fun to play games with him. But I'm inherited to lead and also born with the leadership. That is my greatest advantage compared to Kobe."
James said he respects Michael Jordan the most. "Since my childhood, I respected Jordan and he is the player that everyone has to love," said James. At press conference in Coex Intercontinental Hotel on the 12th, James said "I feel overflowing just being compared to great player like Jordan."

James participated as a member of the "Dream Team" in Athens Olympic of 2004, but Team USA have only scored a bronze model. Regarding this statement, he said "I was a rookie at that time and had no experience. But for this event, the wills to win are superior. Fellow players such as Dwayne Wade and Carmelo Anthony are also full with passions."

At 'LeBron James Court' donating event, Team USA members, Joe Johnson (Atlanta) and Chris Paul (New Orleans) have participated too. James and Paul created a fantastic slam dunk to give a wonderful and unforgettable memories to Korean fans

Scoring powers:roll:

[Y2Gezee]

I hate how every god damn interview Lebron has to say he's a leader. Like he's trying to convince his damn self. Then to say he's a better leader than Kobe? Does he have some proof or something?


This guys great, but he gets on my ****ing nerves

[LakersDynasty]

Lebron: "I told ya'll I was a better leader, I'm bringing home Bronze"

[Younggrease]

Did any other young players compare themselves like that to older players. I dont think Jordan went around calling out MAgic Johnson or LArry Bird or Bernard King.

AI never called out Jordan or D-Rob.

But LEbron gets a free pass for calling out a future hall of famer??????

What if Kobe said " my biggest advantage on LArry Bird is my defense" ITs true but who cares. LArry was still better.

Real players let history tell their story and make their legacy. The dont go around trying to set up quotes to make themselves out to be something that they arent. If you wanna see a natural leader look at avery johnson or Mark Jackson, they were born to lead.

[LakersDynasty]

Amen. Sam Cassell is a natural leader too. His argument is even dumber now as they lost to Greece, where was his leadership in that game?

[wild orchid]

Lebron is a better leader than Kobe which is blatantly true to anybody but the most fearsome Kobe lovers. But I can easily see Lebron slipping up and being candid with the media. He is not as guarded with the media compared to a Kobe Bryant or a Tiger Woods, nor does he possess the ability to pick and choose his words as carefully as them. The reason is simply that he's not that bright. With an average intelligence at best, he pales in comparison to Kobe's smarts and articulation.

Lebron is not as intelligent as Kobe?says who? you make too many assumptions. Lebron has as much education as Kobe Bryant which is a high school diploma. Another thing if Kobe as intelligent and media savvy as you think he is he would not have snitched on Shaq to the cops, talked to the cops without a lawyer, took Karl Malone thing public, built the phony image of being a faithful husband when he was cheating all along.
Lebron is leaps and bounds ahead of Kobe in the common sense department.

[The Mamba]

Intelligence is different from a diploma. I know plenty of dumb asses with diplomas. That doesn't make you intelligent. You would be the idiot, if you believed that it was actually like that. Intelligence has nothing to do with the matter you are bringing up. Everyone feels pressure from police officers, and sticky situations. That doesn't mean he lacks intelligence. Kobe had pretty damn good SAT scores. He knows three different languages, etc. Kobe is 10x more articulate, etc. But please, don't act like Bron hasn't F'ed up as well. Taking an H2 and jerseys, while strictly being watched as a high school senior? Bron has made his mistakes in the "common sense" department, just like we all have. That doesn't negate the fact that Kobe still comes across as being more intelligent.

[picc84]

I dont see it as Lebron taking a shot at Kobe. But at the same time its not the same thing as saying you have shooting or defending as an advantage over someone. Leadership is a personality trait and speaks to someone's character. Its not saying you can put a ball in a hoop more accurately than someone, which says nothing about the person as a human being, and is trivial. It is claiming somewhat of a superiority in character. Whether its true or not is inconsequential, neither is whether Bron meant it as a jab (which I dont think he did). It was simply unnecessary, and acts as a jab even though it wasnt intended as one.

I also think it says a little about Lebron, that he could denigrate Kobe's character so casually and not think about the implications of it. Which do exist, as otherwise this thread wouldnt have two sides to it. Its a little self-centered imo. So I guess what i'm trying to say is Lebron wasnt trying to cheapshot Kobe but he shouldn't have said it anyway.

[hotsizzle]

I dont see it as Lebron taking a shot at Kobe. But at the same time its not the same thing as saying you have shooting or defending as an advantage over someone. Leadership is a personality trait and speaks to someone's character. Its not saying you can put a ball in a hoop more accurately than someone, which says nothing about the person as a human being, and is trivial. It is claiming somewhat of a superiority in character. Whether its true or not is inconsequential, neither is whether Bron meant it as a jab (which I dont think he did). It was simply unnecessary, and acts as a jab even though it wasnt intended as one.

I also think it says a little about Lebron, that he could denigrate Kobe's character so casually and not think about the implications of it. Which do exist, as otherwise this thread wouldnt have two sides to it. Its a little self-centered imo. So I guess what i'm trying to say is Lebron wasnt trying to cheapshot Kobe but he shouldn't have said it anyway.

you stole my avatar:banghead:

[Dizzle]

first off, lebron said "Greatest" advantage.. meaning he has multiple advantages over kobe, which is simply not the case.

defensively, kobe dominates lebron.

the only thing that lebron has over bean on offense is his passing ability, which isnt even that big of an advantage. kobe is underrated like crazy when it comes to involving teammates. take a look at the dynasty , for example. kobe led the dynasty in assists. and how about the first 4 games of suns series? kobe looked like magic out there.

lebron is young.. very young. and he has 2 bronze medals. (nice leadership :applause: )

he needs to hold his tongue and wisen up before he speaks out against his elders... especially if that elder is an all time great.

[picc84]

you stole my avatar:banghead:

I registered on june 3rd with this same avatar.

[hotsizzle]

I registered on june 3rd with this same avatar.

didnt know that cuz ur not an active poster but ill change mine

[picc84]

I havent had internet access since mid-june so thats why i havent been around. On the old boards I was posting all the time.

But sure, change your avatar. If its that big a deal to you. Personally I dont see why anyone should care whether someone else in a community of thousands has the same avatar. Seems trivial. But to each his own.

[04mzwach]

Matures? He is mature and just stated what most think. :confusedshrug:
He didn't mention that Stephen A. Smith is annoying as ****

[04mzwach]

Have we really gotten to the point where you can't even be honest and speak the truth without people getting upset ? He is a better leader than Kobe, everyone knows this including the Kobe fans, so what is the problem ?
Mainly because he's only 3 years in the league, he shouldn't talk about veterans like that even if it's true. I don't even think anybody should question another's game in the NBA though. It's alright if it's about on the court issues like Kobe and Raja Bell, but it's ridiculous for him to talk like that about his leadership skills and how he's better. I couldn't imagine Wade saying, I'm better than Bron because I have a championship unless they were simply joking with one another. Did he laugh? I don't know. Lebron could get 7 rings and he still shouldn't say he's better than this dude because of this reason.

[speedy]

Yeah right !!!! LeBronze has just led a superstar team of NBA players to 2 consecutive 3rd place finishes. That's the kind of leadership the good ol USA don't need. What an overhyped arrogant twit !!!

[Rasheed1]

stop whining....

Everybody knows kobe is a damn weirdo.....He aint a leader...He gots great skills as a player...

but his head stays up his own ass .......he needs some friends or life trainer like A-rod has :lol

[Younggrease]

stop whining....

Everybody knows kobe is a damn weirdo.....He aint a leader...He gots great skills as a player...

but his head stays up his own ass .......he needs some friends or life trainer like A-rod has :lol


The issue is not Lebron being a better leader than Kobe. The issue is Bron's immaturity, not in comparison to Kobe but as a person in his own right.

Bron is trying to put Kobe down this entire summer. I dont think he wants Kobe on the Olympic team to tell you the truth. Because next 2 summers when they win gold Kobe will get the bulk of the credit and will prob be captain along with maybe billups.

[Rasheed1]

The issue is not Lebron being a better leader than Kobe. The issue is Bron's immaturity, not in comparison to Kobe but as a person in his own right.

Bron is trying to put Kobe down this entire summer. I dont think he wants Kobe on the Olympic team to tell you the truth. Because next 2 summers when they win gold Kobe will get the bulk of the credit and will prob be captain along with maybe billups.

^this is what Im talking about^


stop the :cry: blood-clot crying


Somebody asked Bron a question, he answered...Nobody cares enough about kobe to spend alot of time trying to keep him off the USA team... bunch of nonsense...

Stop taking everything so damn personal....Kobe is not a leader...this is not new knowledge, nor is it an insult

[Younggrease]

^this is what Im talking about^


stop the :cry: blood-clot crying


Somebody asked Bron a question, he answered...Nobody cares enough about kobe to spend alot of time trying to keep him off the USA team... bunch of nonsense...

Stop taking everything so damn personal....Kobe is not a leader...this is not new knowledge, nor is it an insult

Than is ok if someone say "Kobe whats you biggest advantage on Lebron"

Kobe says" well i actually play both sides of the ball, he doesnt try to play defense and thats half of the game, also i shoot it a lot better and am better in the clutch"

Its all true but doesnt need to be said.

Everything lebron says is pretty much filtered through a media coach.

Him saying "I dont know if Kobe would fit"= thought out statement

Him saying he is a better leaser = thought out statement

He is trying to shape the media's viewof himself. Just as wade calls himself a team player, humble and unselfish like 4 times an interview.

[Rasheed1]

Than is ok if someone say "Kobe whats you biggest advantage on Lebron"

Kobe says" well i actually play both sides of the ball, he doesnt try to play defense and thats half of the game, also i shoot it a lot better and am better in the clutch"

Its all true but doesnt need to be said.

Everything lebron says is pretty much filtered through a media coach.

Him saying "I dont know if Kobe would fit"= thought out statement

Him saying he is a better leaser = thought out statement

He is trying to shape the media's viewof himself. Just as wade calls himself a team player, humble and unselfish like 4 times an interview.

You take one man's comments waay too personal.... Who are you to say what Lebron should and shouldnt say?

You have this complex protocol of what players should and shouldnt say..why? Because Bron may hurt kobe's feelings? Hurt his fans feelings?

:violin:

[dejordan]

if in the early 1990s john stockton had made a comment like that about say tim hardaway, would people flip out about it? stockton was a better leader than timmy, but timmy was a better scorer and clutch city. would timmy be insulted to hear it? i think this is being blown out of proportion. the common (media) perception has been that bron leads his teammates while kobe carries his. whether it's true or not probably doesn't matter, and unless someone has played with the lakers and cavs in the last couple of years, it probably isn't really answerable, but basically all bron did was give the answer that most sportswriters would have delivered (right or wrong - it's perception).

[picc84]

I dont see it as Lebron taking a shot at Kobe. But at the same time its not the same thing as saying you have shooting or defending as an advantage over someone. Leadership is a personality trait and speaks to someone's character. Its not saying you can put a ball in a hoop more accurately than someone, which says nothing about the person as a human being, and is trivial. It is claiming somewhat of a superiority in character. Whether its true or not is inconsequential, neither is whether Bron meant it as a jab (which I dont think he did). It was simply unnecessary, and acts as a jab even though it wasnt intended as one.

I also think it says a little about Lebron, that he could denigrate Kobe's character so casually and not think about the implications of it. Which do exist, as otherwise this thread wouldnt have two sides to it. Its a little self-centered imo. So I guess what i'm trying to say is Lebron wasnt trying to cheapshot Kobe but he shouldn't have said it anyway.

bottom line is, it was unintentional and not malicious but it was a shot nonetheless, and Lebron should have known not to say it. Maybe as he gets older and matures he'll start getting better at knowing what to say and how to say it.

[Rojogaqu11]

Kobe is better so who cares.

Anyways, there was also an article where Kobe talked about how Team USA needs more chemistry, so will Kobe fans pick on that too? I looks like a shot a the leaderships skills of the tri-captains, but who cares, you know what i'm saying?.

[KINGD]

kobe was a rich black kid growing up in italy, while lebron had a background similar to that of the majority of the nba naturally bron is gonna relate better to his teammates and so be able to be a better leader.

[Rocker09]

Kobe leads by playing hard every game...I admit though that he's not a very good vocal leader....but come on! do you guys think that lebron is already a good leader??? You want a good leader? how about steve nash or jason kidd? Kobe is not a good leader but so is lebron...carmelo is even a better leader than him...

[Carbine]

Attitude reflect leadership.

I don't see either one of those teams playing with the right attitude. I certainly don't wanna see my leader bite his finger nails when ever he gets a chance to do it. That, to me, shows he's nervous.

If my leader is nervous, rest of the team will follow.

[MaxFly]

Attitude reflect leadership.

I don't see either one of those teams playing with the right attitude. I certainly don't wanna see my leader bite his finger nails when ever he gets a chance to do it. That, to me, shows he's nervous.

If my leader is nervous, rest of the team will follow.

I don't think Bron's biting of his nails in a sign of nervousness. Seems more like a bad habit considering he bites his nails from start to finish of games.

[Carbine]

I use to bite my nails a lot. It was a habbit, but I only bit them when I got in a situation were I was nervous.

I think Bron is the same way. Anyways, it doesn't mater if it's a habbit or a nervous thing, he still does it. If I was looking at my leader biting his nails, that would come across to me as him being nervous.

But whatever.

[kumquat]

*cough*