OJ Mayo going pro

[crisoner]

http://www.trojanwire.com/images/oj_mayo_slam_cover.jpg


Link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/news/story?id=3338940

What team you think might snag him?

[Showtime]

Horrible move. The guy is supposed to be a guard able to play point, and he averaged more turnovers than assists.

[statman32]

:eek:

I cant believe it. Who would have thought?

Anyways, hes arguably the 3rd best pro prospect in the draft although his value will go down becuase of reports about his attitude. If you ask me, all the reports are overrated. Dude works his ass off and why he might be a little cocky, it seems to me like hes a team player.

[InspiredLebowski]

Mayo will be the best guard from this class. Yes that includes Rose.

[crisoner]

He can possibly end up in Seattle or Minny.

Seattle...or um Oklahoma City is gunna be sick.

[Hammertime]

Something to ponder over:

OJ Mayo will be 21 the first week of the next season. Just to preempt some of the upside talk.

[Hammertime]

Oh, and his full name is Ovinton J'Anthony.

I knew there was a reason why 16-year-olds shouldn't be allowed to name kids, much less have them.

[statman32]

Something to ponder over:

OJ Mayo will be 21 the first week of the next season. Just to preempt some of the upside talk.
Oh damn. That sucks because players top developing at age 21. :rolleyes:

[Young HkM]

Something to ponder over:

OJ Mayo will be 21 the first week of the next season. Just to preempt some of the upside talk.


He's already 20? Did he get held back or somethin or was he just enrolled in school late?

[statman32]

He's already 20? Did he get held back or somethin or was he just enrolled in school late?
Pretty sure he enrolled in school late. Amare also turned 20 the first month of his rookie year.

[Lebron23]

Mayo will be the best guard from this class. Yes that includes Rose.


I think he would be a good combo guard in the NBA, and i can see him develop into a Jamal Crawford type of player with a much better scoring ability.

[Fallguy20]

oj is a good college player, a solid player even, but he is gonna get torn up in the pros. its not even a question, he just doesnt have the creativity to match up with quality defenders in the lane. Granted, he prolly will come out near the top when it comes to the learning curve, but he wont be an impact player for at least another 5 years. STAY IN SKOOL DUDE!

[Lebron23]

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[B-Low]

Isn't Lil Romeo starting at his school in the fall on a hoops scholarship? I thought he'd at least stay and play with him for one season just for the publicity and stuff

[statman32]

Isn't Lil Romeo starting at his school in the fall on a hoops scholarship? I thought he'd at least stay and play with him for one season just for the publicity and stuff
Yah but he wont even be playing becuase he snot very good and because he had a huge injury or something.

I doubt lil Romeo would have gotten OJ Mayo any more pub anyways. Its not like its lil bow wow. :oldlol:

[Hammertime]

Oh damn. That sucks because players top developing at age 21. :rolleyes:

He's a year older than Kevin Durant. Think about that for a moment. Plus, he's 21 with only a year of college experience, which puts him quite behind guys who are 21 and have 3 years of college experience. Or, I don't know, Brad Daugherty who was a 19-year old senior at NC.

The point is that it makes a difference. If he was 19 and had his current skill level, his stock would obviously be higher than it is right now.

Oh, and the reason he is so old is that his teenage mother thought it'd be a good idea if he repeated a grade for basketball purposes. The idea was for him to be older than the kids he was playing against in order to dominate them. I'm not even joking.

[Da KO King]

Right OJ Mayo's being older has nothing to do with switching high schools numerous times and everything to do with a shiesty mom who wants to hold her son back. :rolleyes:


My view of OJ Mayo:
best case scenario - Brandon Roy
worst case scenario - Shannon Brown
most likely case - Jamal Crawford with improved defense

[FrenchDude]

Isn't Lil Romeo starting at his school in the fall on a hoops scholarship? I thought he'd at least stay and play with him for one season just for the publicity and stuff

This Demar DeRozan kid is going to play for USC too next year, right?

It could have been an interesting combo Mayo-DeRozan...

[Dasher]

oj is a good college player, a solid player even, but he is gonna get torn up in the pros. its not even a question, he just doesnt have the creativity to match up with quality defenders in the lane. Granted, he prolly will come out near the top when it comes to the learning curve, but he wont be an impact player for at least another 5 years. STAY IN SKOOL DUDE!
I think you haven't watched enough of him. He is very creative with the handle. His first step was overrated but his handle and his passing ability weren't. If Taj Gibson had a decent set of hands OJ would have averaged 5-6 assists per game. He may bounce around the L a bit but if he winds up in the right spot he can be as good as Chauncey Billups.

[DuMa]

not really in love with this kid's game but i know hes nba talent at least.

[statman32]

Right OJ Mayo's being older has nothing to do with switching high schools numerous times and everything to do with a shiesty mom who wants to hold her son back. :rolleyes:


My view of OJ Mayo:
best case scenario - Brandon Roy
worst case scenario - Shannon Brown
most likely case - Jamal Crawford with improved defense
I'm confused. His best case scenario is Brandon Roy but his most likely scenario is Jamal with improved defense. That sounds better that his best case scenario. :confusedshrug:

[Da KO King]

I'm confused. His best case scenario is Brandon Roy but his most likely scenario is Jamal with improved defense. That sounds better that his best case scenario. :confusedshrug:Brandon Roy is Jamal Crawford with improved defense AND improved decision making.

[ZOMG]

Oh damn. That sucks because players stop developing at age 21. :rolleyes:

Hey, when you're 13 years old like 90% of ISH posters, 21 is ancient.

I predict that after about two years in the League, there will be someone here stating that OJ Mayo has "clearly" lost a step since his HS days and is, in fact, "breaking down" because "he hasn't dunked in like three weeks".

[statman32]

Brandon Roy is Jamal Crawford with improved defense AND improved decision making.
Alright. :D

[elz]

I think you haven't watched enough of him. He is very creative with the handle. His first step was overrated but his handle and his passing ability weren't. If Taj Gibson had a decent set of hands OJ would have averaged 5-6 assists per game. He may bounce around the L a bit but if he winds up in the right spot he can be as good as Chauncey Billups.


No he won't


Primarily for one good reason

Chauncey played 4yrs in college and Larry Brown helped him completely become a Pt Guard.

Mayo is leaving too early
Don't get me wrong, he's gifted and has a great NBA Body and can score.

But he's a tweaner. He's not a pure Pt Guard and he has no true position.
He's too small to play SG. But he physically Dwarf's the avg Pg. He doesn't have the decision making ability yet to hold down the position.


He needs to stay at least 2more yrs and thoroughly learn how to play Point. Right now he still has a shoot first mentality and he's been the teams best offensive weapon every place he's gone. He needs to breakout of that before he jumps or he's gonna be the next Marbury and Steve Francis.

Both jumped too early, both with great NBA Bodies and good offensive weapons. And their ability to score combined with being their teams best scoring options hendered their growth in the league. He's got this blueprint written all over him. He should stay.

Like right now Mike Conley is going to be a bust
PG is the one position where you need someone to micromanage your Basketball IQ before you jump pro. You can't just jump pro and learn as you go with the Point Guard Position.

[FireMcFailPlease]

This guys goin to make a great pro.

I hope the Wolves pick him up if we miss out on Rose or Beasley. No matter who picks 3rd, you dont draft for need that high.

[InspiredLebowski]

I don't get people saying he's too short, dude's a solid 6'5. The entire league's getting smaller, there aren't too many 6'7 2 guards any more. 5'10 guys like Augustin are being talked about in the lotto.

[Dasher]

No he won't


Primarily for one good reason

Chauncey played 4yrs in college and Larry Brown helped him completely become a Pt Guard.

Mayo is leaving too early
Don't get me wrong, he's gifted and has a great NBA Body and can score.

But he's a tweaner. He's not a pure Pt Guard and he has no true position.
He's too small to play SG. But he physically Dwarf's the avg Pg. He doesn't have the decision making ability yet to hold down the position.


He needs to stay at least 2more yrs and thoroughly learn how to play Point. Right now he still has a shoot first mentality and he's been the teams best offensive weapon every place he's gone. He needs to breakout of that before he jumps or he's gonna be the next Marbury and Steve Francis.

Both jumped too early, both with great NBA Bodies and good offensive weapons. And their ability to score combined with being their teams best scoring options hendered their growth in the league. He's got this blueprint written all over him. He should stay.

Like right now Mike Conley is going to be a bust
PG is the one position where you need someone to micromanage your Basketball IQ before you jump pro. You can't just jump pro and learn as you go with the Point Guard Position.


Billups is still a tweener. Pure points are rare. Larry Brown gets the credit for Chauncey's transformation, but it was Joe Dumars, a tweener point guard himself, who gave Chauncey the rock and trusted him. All it takes is a GM to decide that Mayo is his guy and mandate that he is allowed to get on the floor and take his lumps, something that all pgs need to be allowed to do.

[elz]

Billups is still a tweener. Pure points are rare. Larry Brown gets the credit for Chauncey's transformation, but it was Joe Dumars, a tweener point guard himself, who gave Chauncey the rock and trusted him. All it takes is a GM to decide that Mayo is his guy and mandate that he is allowed to get on the floor and take his lumps, something that all pgs need to be allowed to do.


1st Billups is not a tweener his primary position is Pg.
The only time he can move to SG is when the opposing team goes small. Billups doesn't need to score alot to win a game and can very easily dole out 10 asst, he adapts to his teams needs as the game goes along. He's a team first point guard who can drop in a heartbeat and very solid on defense. All things Mayo doesn't know how to do yet.
I'm not knocking Mayo but he needs another yr or 2 before he jumps.
Billups has a primary position Mayo doesn't. If he were taller and was a straight shooting guard, fine. Because he wouldn't have to be concerned with running the offense. But PG is a cerebal position and you can't just jump to the league and learn it on the fly. It doesn't work that way. Plus it still took Chauncey yrs to streamline his own learning curve. 2nd there's only one Joe dumars while there's plenty examples of pt guards who've jumped too early and clearly would have benefited from more experience.

Mayo is jumping now because of what happened with Joakim Noah.
Which is prolly what every agent is telling him and warning him about.

[elz]

I don't get people saying he's too short, dude's a solid 6'5. The entire league's getting smaller, there aren't too many 6'7 2 guards any more. 5'10 guys like Augustin are being talked about in the lotto.


He's not 6'5"

he's 6'3" maybe 6'4"

[InspiredLebowski]

He's not 6'5"

he's 6'3" maybe 6'4"

According to numerous reports he's 6'5 w/ shoes. Probably 6'4 w/o. Guess we'll find out for sure once the individual workouts start.

[elz]

According to numerous reports he's 6'5 w/ shoes. Probably 6'4 w/o. Guess we'll find out for sure once the individual workouts start.


I don't believe that
they list players at the wrong wieghts and sizes all the time

they had Charles Barkley listed at 6ft 6 his whole career and he's said millions of times he's 6ft 4

I could be wrong maybe he's 6'5
but from what I've seen of him
No Way!

He looks bout 6'3" 6'4 tops but he's built like he spend tons of time in the gym

[PK3434]

Isn't Lil Romeo starting at his school in the fall on a hoops scholarship? I thought he'd at least stay and play with him for one season just for the publicity and stuff

Romeo can play, but at a d3 level, not a high level d1 program. I don't ever see him making an impact at USC.

[InspiredLebowski]

Lil Romeo seriously took a scholarship? Say whatever you will about his ball skills, but how f'ing low do you have to stoop to take a scholarship from a deserving player when your dad has a ROOM that cost $5 million?

[Da KO King]

Lil Romeo seriously took a scholarship? Say whatever you will about his ball skills, but how f'ing low do you have to stoop to take a scholarship from a deserving player when your dad has a ROOM that cost $5 million?
Romeo did not take a schollie. He's paying his own way.

[VCMVP1551]

I don't believe that
they list players at the wrong wieghts and sizes all the time

they had Charles Barkley listed at 6ft 6 his whole career and he's said millions of times he's 6ft 4

I could be wrong maybe he's 6'5
but from what I've seen of him
No Way!

He looks bout 6'3" 6'4 tops but he's built like he spend tons of time in the gym

Barkley's closer to 6'5" and since most players are listed an inch taller why would OJ Mayo being around 6'4" be a big deal? Gilbert Arenas is only like 6'2" and Kobe has claimed 6'4" and 6-4 3/4 as his height.

[InspiredLebowski]

Romeo did not take a schollie. He's paying his own way.

Good. Makes sense due to him most likely flunking out in a semester anyway.

[Qlippers]

If is available for the Clippers, I would love to have him on the Clips.

[crisoner]

I would like to see him on Seattle.

Him and Durant could run things.

[Lebron23]

He's not 6'5"

he's 6'3" maybe 6'4"


OJ Mayo is probably 6'3 3/4" Barefeet, and 6'5" with shoes same height as Dwayne Wade and Rodney Stuckey.

[monthh]

OJ can not play the point in the NBA right now. It will take time for that. I think a team like the Clippers would be perfect, not only because he gets to stay in LA, but because they have nothing in their future backcourt. If the ends up showing potential at the point, they can get a SG in the future. If he ends up showing he is more of a scorer and better not trying to run the offense, they can pick up a PG.

I think in the end, he could play point, but I think would be better just being a scorer who can pass. You can bring in a true PG who can do all the PG stuff and then just give the ball to Mayo to create.

In regards to his height, it might be the reason he falls to 5th or 6th, but I don't think is a huge concern.

Age is a bit of a concern considering he still plays just with natural talent. All those HS did not give him very good coaching it seems. He is still a year or two away, and at 21 that doesn't get you excited like a 19 year old would, but I think teams will deal. If anything he just cost himself money because he will be like 24 when his first deal ends, then his second deal will last until he is 30, and then teams won't pay him as much and will only want to give him maybe a 5 year deal, which would make him 35 and in position to just pick up 1 and 2 year deals until he retires. If he was 19, he would be in position to get a bigger 3rd and 4th deal.

[Dasher]

If Rodney Stuckey is being groomed into to being a point guard, I see no real reason why OJ Mayo can't be. Stuckey was probably more of a pure scorer than OJ was in college.

[MarloStanfield]

Romeo did not take a schollie. He's paying his own way.
untrue - he took a kids scholarship that walked on and was slated to get a scholarship...will provide link if you think otherwise

[InspiredLebowski]

untrue - he took a kids scholarship that walked on and was slated to get a scholarship...will provide link if you think otherwise

If USC ever plays in Indiana somewhere I'm booing that kid

[Da KO King]

untrue - he took a kids scholarship that walked on and was slated to get a scholarship...will provide link if you think otherwise
When did you read this because the last thing I seen said Romeo realized that because he can afford to pay his own he would that way USC could get another schollie worthy player and improve their chances at winning.

[MarloStanfield]

When did you read this because the last thing I seen said Romeo realized that because he can afford to pay his own he would that way USC could get another schollie worthy player and improve their chances at winning.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/03/13/usc.lilromeo/index.html

[danumber88]

I just have a feeling hes going to beat beasley and rose for roy...

just a feeling (stfu haters)

[Da KO King]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/03/13/usc.lilromeo/index.html
:banghead: Goddam shame this fool took the schollie. Even if he's actually a Pac-10 schollie level player by paying his own way the team could have added another player making them even better.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

he put SC basketball on the map. Also what a great decision props to mayo's personnel.