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picc84
04-15-2008, 02:36 PM
Magic fans, how concerned are you that Bosh has done whatever he wanted during the season to your team? Do th Raps scare you at all?

I think Orlando is the better team but the matchup problems make me predict it will take 7 games to beat Toronto.

Dwight_Howard12
04-15-2008, 02:41 PM
4-1 Magic :banana:

:party:

picc84
04-15-2008, 02:50 PM
Pretty cocky.

Reef
04-15-2008, 03:00 PM
Raps could take it IF they could play the way they were playing before the big skid at the end of the season. Orlando won the season series 2-1 but Bosh missed one of the games that Orland won, and he's destroyed them every game.

Also Bargnani, Kapono, and Delfino have to step up for the Raps to stand a chance.

JtotheIzzo
04-15-2008, 03:02 PM
Raptors learned some valuable lessons last year in the playoffs, if they apply them they can win.

Magic are pretty green, and may very well lose.

bballnoob
04-15-2008, 03:07 PM
Gonna be interesting how Orlando plays Bosh. Would be surprised seeing him in single converage against Howard or Lewis.

Obviously Toronto's gonna double Howard (or any other player that posts up, no matter who :banghead: ) so Hedo and Lewis are gonna have some great looks.

picc84
04-15-2008, 03:10 PM
If Howard is on Bosh, who gets to cover the basketball monster that is Rasho Nesterovic?

Phesto
04-15-2008, 03:13 PM
If Howard is on Bosh, who gets to cover the basketball monster that is Rasho Nesterovic?

No point in covering Rasho. It's as good as 2 pts when he gets the ball.

danumber88
04-15-2008, 03:14 PM
hopefully rasho is open, when bosh is guarded.

this will be a pretty good match

Reef
04-15-2008, 03:14 PM
God can't even cover Rasho.

picc84
04-15-2008, 03:22 PM
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/slike/nesterovic_raso.jpg

kwajo
04-15-2008, 03:29 PM
Everyone can get primed for this series by sporting an Air Rasho avatar and getting the official desktop wallpaper:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop.jpg

Link to 1280x1028 version: Updated Link to Red-on-White (http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop-1280red.jpg)


Prediction of series averages (Magic win in 6):

Dwight - 27/15
Bosh - 33/9
Rasho - 19/9

Should be great for anyone that likes frontcourt action.

Kobe24
04-15-2008, 03:35 PM
Raptors are not gonna beat the Magic. Honestly, they are terrible. PG defense is terrible, AP is an average SG, Jamario Moon is basically useless, Bosh is great but I'm not sure if he is a playoff performer since he got shut down and embarassed the whole series last year and Rasho cannot contain Dwight. I watch them a lot and they'll be lucky to still be playing in game 6. I say Magic in 5.

i seen hippos
04-15-2008, 03:37 PM
If Toronto loses to a team with Nelson as the point guard, they should disband.

CJWatson
04-15-2008, 03:40 PM
Raptors are not gonna beat the Magic. Honestly, they are terrible. PG defense is terrible, AP is an average SG, Jamario Moon is basically useless, Bosh is great but I'm not sure if he is a playoff performer since he got shut down and embarassed the whole series last year and Rasho cannot contain Dwight. I watch them a lot and they'll be lucky to still be playing in game 6. I say Magic in 5.

I agree.

picc84
04-15-2008, 03:40 PM
Everyone can get primed for this series by sporting an Air Rasho avatar and getting the official desktop wallpaper:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktopvga.jpg

Link to 1280x1028 version: Link (http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop1280.jpg)


Prediction of series averages (Raps win in 3):

Dwight - 4/7
Bosh - 13/9
Rasho - 49/26

Should be great for anyone that likes frontcourt action.

Fixed.

After 3 humiliating Raptors-dominated games, NBA calls series off invoking newly implemented mercy rule.

Also referred to as "The Rasho Regulation".

In a post-series press conference, Rasho congratulates the Magic on a season 'done'.

bjtrdff
04-15-2008, 03:42 PM
Every member of the Raps fam needs to have this avatar.

Reef
04-15-2008, 03:45 PM
Every member of the Raps fam needs to have this avatar.

Done.

Maybe we can have a red background instead for the "sea of red"?

kwajo
04-15-2008, 03:50 PM
Done.

Maybe we can have a red background instead for the "sea of red"?
Good call! I'll get on it.

EDIT
How's this:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop-red.jpg
Link to 1280x1024 version (http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop-red1280.jpg)

Kebab Stall
04-15-2008, 03:53 PM
How do guys fell about a young Memphis fan jumping on the Raptor bandwagon? This seems to be the most likable team in the playoffs. I've always had a soft spot for the Raptors.

Reef
04-15-2008, 03:56 PM
Good call! I'll get on it.

EDIT
How's this:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop-red.jpg
Link to 1280x1024 version (http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrashodesktop-red1280.jpg)

Sweet!:banana:

Reef
04-15-2008, 03:57 PM
How do guys fell about a young Memphis fan jumping on the Raptor bandwagon? This seems to be the most likable team in the playoffs. I've always had a soft spot for the Raptors.

Hop on!

Kobe24
04-15-2008, 04:04 PM
How do guys fell about a young Memphis fan jumping on the Raptor bandwagon? This seems to be the most likable team in the playoffs. I've always had a soft spot for the Raptors.

Won't last long anyways. Might want to find a backup team.

bjtrdff
04-15-2008, 04:28 PM
Join us brother.

Is the pic too big for anyone else to use as an avatar?

i seen hippos
04-15-2008, 04:29 PM
State > Rasho.

kwajo
04-15-2008, 04:31 PM
Join us brother.

Is the pic too big for anyone else to use as an avatar?
Just use this one then, it's only 16kb
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/airrasho-redavatar.gif

plat1numX
04-15-2008, 04:34 PM
im actually appalled at the fact that your guys air rasho has the body of a cow, so i used my own to represent his Godliness

kwajo
04-15-2008, 04:37 PM
It's not the body of a cow, it's an actual photo of Rasho schooling Charlie V.:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/20/fullj.192d635572a6a9de46c6b327e8983480/192d635572a6a9de46c6b327e8983480-getty-76075124rt09_bucks_raptors.jpg

plat1numX
04-15-2008, 04:37 PM
It's not the body of a cow, it's an actual photo of Rasho:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/20/fullj.192d635572a6a9de46c6b327e8983480/192d635572a6a9de46c6b327e8983480-getty-76075124rt09_bucks_raptors.jpg
yeh i know but shhh, dam you

Valliant13
04-15-2008, 04:42 PM
If Smitch can just get guys to close out on te 3pt shooters better I like TO's chances in this series.

Hail Rasho!

bjtrdff
04-15-2008, 04:46 PM
The avatar change seems to be going nicely.

i seen hippos
04-15-2008, 04:51 PM
**** it. I'm rooting for the Magic now.

http://www.sbacfl.org/images/logo_magic.gif

Phesto
04-15-2008, 04:59 PM
Sweet av, kwajo:lol

Reef
04-15-2008, 05:05 PM
Quijybo will be so proud.

StroShow4
04-15-2008, 05:11 PM
all this air rasho stuff was making me wonder... when's the last time rasho actually dunked the ball?

kwajo
04-15-2008, 05:15 PM
all this air rasho stuff was making me wonder... when's the last time rasho actually dunked the ball?
Last night, a couple times

StroShow4
04-15-2008, 05:19 PM
Last night, a couple times

oh. i've seen the raps play a bunch of times this year and am yet to witness his high flying abilities.

A Roc 23
04-15-2008, 05:21 PM
I think that the Raptors will end up taking this series.

The Magic have too many holes to succeed in the playoffs. They don't have a worthy shooting guard and their point guard situation is less then ideal.

Really they don't have anyone worth starting outside of Dwight, Hedo and Shard. They make for a nice trio offensively, but they aren't good enough defensively to make up for their lack of overall talent. They will have a hard time winning 4 games with their offense being so much better then their defense.

Rasho is a good sound defender, so I'm predicting that Dwight doesn't go off. Rasho and Bosh should have a great series against Dwight and Shard. They really aren't a very good defensive frontline. As long as the Raptors close out on the 3 point line then they just need to keep up their effort for 48 minutes a night to win.

Kebab Stall
04-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Won't last long anyways. Might want to find a backup team.
I guess my back up bandwagon team would be Spurs. But, right now all I have to worry about is if Memphis can get their 23rd win of the season, whoop!

bjtrdff
04-15-2008, 05:22 PM
I sent the desktop to Chuck. We can only assume Rasho has it in his hands by now.

kwajo
04-15-2008, 05:23 PM
oh. i've seen the raps play a bunch of times this year and am yet to witness his high flying abilities.
Since he was put into the starting lineup almost 2 months ago, Rasho's vertical leap has exploded from 1.5" to 46". He can now almost out-jump Kwaku Boateng!

StroShow4
04-15-2008, 06:29 PM
hey kwaj, i borrowed your concept and made my own "anti-christ" edition.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/StroShow4/air_stro.jpg

danumber88
04-15-2008, 06:33 PM
After Magics.. we will probably get owned.

Faufner
04-15-2008, 06:36 PM
Might aswell...

Carbooja
04-15-2008, 06:40 PM
I was at the game last night, RASHO was god.


Raps in 6.

Sorry Orlando, you are what the Raps were last year.

bjtrdff
04-15-2008, 08:43 PM
I was at the game last night, RASHO was god.


Raps in 6.

Sorry Orlando, you are what the Raps were last year.



That's eerie...6 vs 3 upset?

dafunkphenom
04-15-2008, 08:50 PM
Orlando in 6.

Good Old Willy
04-15-2008, 09:07 PM
Love the playoff Avy guys.

About who will take the series:

Raps have played completely inconsistently all year, and old school strengths such a chemistry and bench points have been disappointing. Raps should take this series except that months of giveaway games has rotted my confidence in the team. I still can't get over how bad the team has been this year.

Keys to raptor victory:
*****************
1) Rasho starts and sticks to Dwight

2) Bargnani is advised to foul out, 1qtr if need be, just attack non stop. "You are only getting 12 minutes"

3) Calderon plays. Ford does not (10-15mpg max)

4) Parker takes 2nd most shots attempts

5) Bosh shows up big, leads team in shot attempts

6) Moon makes ZERO 3pnt attempts. Immediately is benched if he even thinks about taking a shot longer than 15 feet. Told to think "dunk or rebound" every possession.

7) Kapono's family is kidnapped. Kapono told to shoot threes, else...

fiad06
04-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Talk is cheap.

Carbooja
04-15-2008, 09:40 PM
Talk is cheap.


So are regular season standings.

bjtrdff
04-15-2008, 09:45 PM
So are regular season standings.


PWND.

The Italian
04-15-2008, 09:45 PM
The Magic have too many holes to succeed in the playoffs.

Well to be fair and impartial the Raptors have a lot of holes as well. They don't have the consistent defensive effort. Same can be said about their outside shooting, when it is on it is great but when it is off they are in trouble. They get killed on the glass and don't have much of an inside presence outside of Bosh. Their biggest problem defensively is defending the perimeter and that is the biggest strength of the Magic which concerns me.

Both teams are definitely flawed. I think that this series really can go either way, depending on what Raptor team shows up. If they play like they have been lately, they have no shot but it they play like they are capable of they can very well take the series.

Pistol Pete
04-15-2008, 09:47 PM
3) Calderon plays. Ford does not (10-15mpg max)

There is absolutely zero chance we win a seven game series with our second best player only playing 10 to 15 minutes per game, it's ridiculous that you think this would be effective given our obvious lack of talent overall. TJ Ford, Jose Calderon and Chris Bosh have to be our best if we are going anywhere.

bada bing
04-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Love the playoff Avy guys.

About who will take the series:

Raps have played completely inconsistently all year, and old school strengths such a chemistry and bench points have been disappointing. Raps should take this series except that months of giveaway games has rotted my confidence in the team. I still can't get over how bad the team has been this year.

Keys to raptor victory:
*****************
1) Rasho starts and sticks to Dwight

2) Bargnani is advised to foul out, 1qtr if need be, just attack non stop. "You are only getting 12 minutes"

3) Calderon plays. Ford does not (10-15mpg max)

4) Parker takes 2nd most shots attempts

5) Bosh shows up big, leads team in shot attempts

6) Moon makes ZERO 3pnt attempts. Immediately is benched if he even thinks about taking a shot longer than 15 feet. Told to think "dunk or rebound" every possession.

7) Kapono's family is kidnapped. Kapono told to shoot threes, else...

you are really right on with all those points, especially the Moon comments. Every time he gets the ball he should simply drive in. Forget about being blocked by Dwight. Just go in and explode.

Pistol Pete
04-15-2008, 09:55 PM
you are really right on with all those points, especially the Moon comments. Every time he gets the ball he should simply drive in. Forget about being blocked by Dwight. Just go in and explode.

If TJ Ford plays 10 minutes per game, the Raptors have zero chance of winning the series, I don't see how you could agree that he needs to be benched.

Make It Rain
04-15-2008, 09:58 PM
I think the Magic smash the Raptors in 5 games.

bada bing
04-15-2008, 09:59 PM
If TJ Ford plays 10 minutes per game, the Raptors have zero chance of winning the series, I don't see how you could agree that he needs to be benched.

i am going on what I have seen TJ do since he came back. There is just a lack of chemistry and guys hanging around near the 3-pt line while TJ is doing everything on his own. If the raps dont show up early on in teh series against the Magic, its time to bench TJ and start calderon. From what i have seen, the raps have done much better when calderon started. He is a safer pg that just insanely makes his shots while getting others involved as well.

but i understand what everyone is saying about TJ. Since his comeback, i see a different TJ that is trying to prove something to everyone. and just to add, I was a bigger fan of TJ even when he was injured and calderon was doing a great job. But after TJ came back, he has not been the same guy.

Tips4
04-15-2008, 09:59 PM
Bosh has been dominating the Orlando Magics as long as i can remember. He seems like its an automatic 30 point 10 rebound game when he plays against the Orlando Magics. If the Raptors play the way they have been playing the last 10 games or soo than we stand no chance, especially if we play this horrible perimiter offense. Rashard Lewis and Hedo will destroy us. Plus i just cant stand watching the Raptors anymore, i am annoyed by them now. We are unbelivably soft and all we do is shoot jumpshots. I mean we never go inside even for players who are sopouse to be slashers. We need to get some atheletic players who will go inside and ship out Delfino.

Carbooja
04-15-2008, 10:04 PM
I just love all these Rasho avatars

OH SH*T you guys should have seen the mock video they did of Rasho during the timeout, I died laughing, hopefully someone posts it on youtube, it was rasho's head superimposed on John Travolta's staying alive disco scene...

Pistol Pete
04-15-2008, 10:09 PM
i am going on what I have seen TJ do since he came back. There is just a lack of chemistry and guys hanging around near the 3-pt line while TJ is doing everything on his own. If the raps dont show up early on in teh series against the Magic, its time to bench TJ and start calderon. From what i have seen, the raps have done much better when calderon started. He is a safer pg that just insanely makes his shots while getting others involved as well.

but i understand what everyone is saying about TJ. Since his comeback, i see a different TJ that is trying to prove something to everyone. and just to add, I was a bigger fan of TJ even when he was injured and calderon was doing a great job. But after TJ came back, he has not been the same guy.

Irregardless, if we bench our 2nd best player, we won't win, we are a team that lacks talent, you don't bench your 2nd best player when talent takes over in the playoffs, and expect to win.

bada bing
04-15-2008, 10:20 PM
Irregardless, if we bench our 2nd best player, we won't win, we are a team that lacks talent, you don't bench your 2nd best player when talent takes over in the playoffs, and expect to win.

yea you are right. Maybe suggesting and agreeing with 10-15 min. only for TJ was extreme. But depending on how we play, the more minutes should be given to the pg that is actually making a positive difference. Hopefully TJ gets over the way he has been playing since he came back.

brwnman
04-15-2008, 10:25 PM
Irregardless, if we bench our 2nd best player, we won't win, we are a team that lacks talent, you don't bench your 2nd best player when talent takes over in the playoffs, and expect to win.

he hasn't been our 2nd best player since he came back from injury. He was our best player at the start of the year, hasn't been anything since the injury. He looked like he was returning to form after being inserted to the starting lineup, but now, it's just a shot in the dark...

i seen hippos
04-15-2008, 10:39 PM
http://www.floridapta.org/Orlando_Magic.jpg
http://www.floridapta.org/Orlando_Magic.jpg
http://www.floridapta.org/Orlando_Magic.jpg

Rockets(T-mac)
04-15-2008, 10:41 PM
This and Washington vs. Cavs are my fav match-ups in the East. I hope the Raps can pull it out, they will have to have everyone step up. Rasho has played very well lately and they will need everyone to do that if they want to win. Should be a great series.

kaiteng
04-15-2008, 10:41 PM
Bosh and Rasho will push the Raps over Magics, I hope. Raps in 6.

Bargs and Kapono are X-Factors. When one of those guys is hot, the team usually wins.

plat1numX
04-15-2008, 10:43 PM
lets just hope bosh doesnt choke in the playoffs again. i dont think he will but we will see.

plat1numX
04-15-2008, 10:53 PM
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/Legend_Stopper/HowardandBosh.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/Legend_Stopper/DwightandBosh.jpg

plat1numX
04-15-2008, 10:55 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/MMVA2007_Chris_Bosh.jpg

PersiaN
04-15-2008, 10:55 PM
I juss switched my avatar...it would be cool if all raptors fans did it.

Pistol Pete
04-15-2008, 10:56 PM
lets just hope bosh doesnt choke in the playoffs again. i dont think he will but we will see.

22 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists on (7-16) 44% FG, (8-10) 80% FT
25 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks on (10-20) 50% FG, (5-6) 83% FT
11 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals on (3-10) 30% FG, (5-6) 83% FT
13 points, 10 rebounds, 1 assist on (5-12) 42% FG, (3-3) 100% FT
11 points, 8 rebounds, 4 blocks on (3-11) 27% FG, (5-6) 83% FT
23 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 blocks on (8-22) 37% FG, (6-7) 86 FT%

Series Averages
17.5 PTS, 9 REBS, 3 ASSTS, 1.7 BLKS, 40% FG, 84% FT

He did all of this while being double and triple teamed by players who match up very well with him defensively, and arguably pose the biggest problem to him in the entire league. It may have not been his best stuff, but I hardly see where averaging nearly a double double a game on respectable percentages getting the attention he was is choking.

Good Old Willy
04-15-2008, 11:18 PM
If TJ Ford plays 10 minutes per game, the Raptors have zero chance of winning the series, I don't see how you could agree that he needs to be benched.

Biggest fan of Ford here, but it is what it is. Ford may be the second most talented guy on the team, but right now with him playing he loses. Have seen enough of Francis-Alston-James type PG's to recognise a black hole when I hear the ball hogging suckin sound. :D

Ford offensive's mindset is a huge liability to the Raps now. This mentality of thinking he needs to shoot is wrecking the very foundation on which Raptor success was built - ball movement, passing to the open man, every player having the right to shoot, selflessness, trust in fellow players. Ford now is the antithesis. Calderon's play in the last week has preoven he is back.

I have been reprinting the stat all year: when Ford leads the Raptors is points scored, they lose. When ford leads the team in shot attempts, Raps lose.

Law.

To summarize. No, it should be Calderon withthe most minutes, IF they want to win this year. Ford playing 15 only leaves Calderon (one of the top 10 pgs in the game today) with only 33 mpg.

Qwyjibo
04-15-2008, 11:58 PM
I have been reprinting the stat all year: when Ford leads the Raptors is points scored, they lose. When ford leads the team in shot attempts, Raps lose.

Are you looking at that the right way though?

Usually when Ford leads the team in attempts and points, that means Bosh is having a poor game so naturally the Raptors are going to lose. TJ Ford isn't a #1 option so if he ends up being the team's leading scorer, you're in trouble. But is the loss Ford's fault? If the other players aren't on then how can you blame Ford for taking on the scoring load? I think the TJ Ford that recognizes when his team is doing well and when they aren't is the one we've been seeing for the most part in the past couple weeks. He was off his game coming back from the injury but lately he looks to be going back to the TJ Ford of the start of the season.

Take a look at the start of the year, Ford did a great job of recognizing when to look to score and when not to (except that brutal Utah game). In the early Boston game, no one else was doing anything so Ford took it upon himself to score (someone has to) and carried the team. The Raptors didn't win but would you expect a team led by TJ Ford to beat the Celtics? Then in a game vs the Bulls, the Raptors were drilling shots non-stop and Ford took what 4 shots maybe? (I don't remember exactly). TJ Ford is the 2nd most talented offensive player on the team. Him and Bosh are really the only players who can create offense for themselves and, to cliche it up for a bit, "create something out of nothing". It's not an ideal roster situation to be in but that's the case with the Raptors at the moment.

Pistol Pete
04-16-2008, 12:06 AM
Are you looking at that the right way though?

Usually when Ford leads the team in attempts and points, that means Bosh is having a poor game so naturally the Raptors are going to lose. TJ Ford isn't a #1 option so if he ends up being the team's leading scorer, you're in trouble. But is the loss Ford's fault? If the other players aren't on then how can you blame Ford for taking on the scoring load? I think the TJ Ford that recognizes when his team is doing well and when they aren't is the one we've been seeing for the most part in the past couple weeks. He was off his game coming back from the injury but lately he looks to be going back to the TJ Ford of the start of the season.

Take a look at the start of the year, Ford did a great job of recognizing when to look to score and when not to (except that brutal Utah game). In the early Boston game, no one else was doing anything so Ford took it upon himself to score (someone has to) and carried the team. The Raptors didn't win but would you expect a team led by TJ Ford to beat the Celtics? Then in a game vs the Bulls, the Raptors were drilling shots non-stop and Ford took what 4 shots maybe? (I don't remember exactly). TJ Ford is the 2nd most talented offensive player on the team. Him and Bosh are really the only players who can create offense for themselves and, to cliche it up for a bit, "create something out of nothing". It's not an ideal roster situation to be in but that's the case with the Raptors at the moment.

You intelligently wrote what I've been trying to express, praise Qwyjibo!

Carbooja
04-16-2008, 12:20 AM
Qwyjibo!

Bro, I KNOW the Raps saw your avatar when they did the video on the scoreboard, it was hilarious, they had the bopping Rasho head and all!

Qwyjibo
04-16-2008, 12:27 AM
Qwyjibo!

Bro, I KNOW the Raps saw your avatar when they did the video on the scoreboard, it was hilarious, they had the bopping Rasho head and all!

Credit to Kwajo for the avatar (of course).

Rashomania has exploded though. The awesome play, the basketball IQ, the dry wit and testimonials from other greats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOnsZAcYHYQ). If there were t-shirts available with the latest "Air Rasho" craze, I'd buy several.

ForceOfNature
04-16-2008, 09:59 AM
I actually had a nightmare last night that we (the Orlando Magic) were going to play the Washington Wizards in the playoffs instead of Toronto. I woke up, and everything was well.

Phesto
04-16-2008, 10:39 AM
Credit to Kwajo for the avatar (of course).

Rashomania has exploded though. The awesome play, the basketball IQ, the dry wit and testimonials from other greats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOnsZAcYHYQ). If there were t-shirts available with the latest "Air Rasho" craze, I'd buy several.

From the latest Yahoo Sports power rankings:

17. (19) Toronto Raptors

Kiddlovesnets
04-16-2008, 11:05 AM
Magic does have greater chance to win the series. However, the Raptors may have chance to clinch if Dwight Howard keeps sucking as he did in this month.

power works
04-16-2008, 11:15 AM
The Magic were a more consistent team than the Raps during the season. Winning 50 ain

Sham
04-16-2008, 11:35 AM
I'm not liking the way the Raps are heading into the playoffs. Shaky, at best. Nonetheless, should be a good series.

Anyone going to games 3 or 4?

Dolphin
04-16-2008, 11:38 AM
Hopefully the raptors will win. Easy second round matchup for the D.

bjtrdff
04-16-2008, 11:45 AM
I actually had a nightmare last night that we (the Orlando Magic) were going to play the Washington Wizards in the playoffs instead of Toronto. I woke up, and everything was well.


Yeah, you must be quite the hardcore Magic fan, given your avatar.

Dolphin
04-16-2008, 04:17 PM
You guys always complain about a lack of exposure. How do you feel about either being on ABC or TNT Sunday (most likely TNT from what I understand)?

bballnoob
04-16-2008, 04:19 PM
It'll be nice to hear a less biased broadcast (unless Marc Jackson is there).

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 12:05 AM
Magic easily beat Washington and Toronto loses to Chicago.

ORLANDO IS GONNA KILL TORONTO!!!!!!!!

WildStyle
04-17-2008, 12:34 AM
Raptors fans are so optimistic. It's cute. I like how they think Dwight can be shut down by Rasho too. Go check Dwight's season averages against Toronto. You might be surprised, but you really shouldn't be.

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 02:03 AM
Word. Who give those fools a team anyways? Stern is evil.

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 02:06 AM
Orlando vs. Toronto

Game 1 - Sun April 20 Toronto at Orlando 12:30PM 12:30PM TNT
Game 2 - Tue April 22 Toronto at Orlando 7:30PM 7:30PM NBATV
Game 3 - Thu April 24 Orlando at Toronto 7:30PM 7:30PM NBATV
Game 4 - Sat April 26 Orlando at Toronto 3:00PM 3:00PM TNT
Game 5 * Mon April 28 Toronto at Orlando 7:30PM 7:30PM NBATV
Game 6 * Thu May 1 Orlando at Toronto TBD TBD TBD
Game 7 * Sat May 3 Toronto at Orlando TBD TBD TNT


I gots to work Sunday afternoon!!! Gonna DVR that shiz up.

baseketball4life
04-17-2008, 02:13 AM
i think Magic have to be on upset alert, think Raptors are going to take this series

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 02:17 AM
i think Magic have to be on upset alert, think Raptors are going to take this series

Raptors almost had a losing season. The only thing upset will be Raptor fans' tummies after Dwight knocks any hope they have out of them in game one.

ForceOfNature
04-17-2008, 10:53 AM
http://images.sportsnetwork.com/snetwork/nba/orlando_logo.gif http://images.sportsnetwork.com/snetwork/nba/toronto_logo.gif

I've changed my avatar for this glorious series. Go Magic.

kwajo
04-17-2008, 12:20 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84270

statman32
04-17-2008, 12:20 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84270
That thread title is so plain. :sleeping

Kujo
04-17-2008, 01:00 PM
I think the key for the Raps will be the play of Calderon, and Ford. If they both play well, and Bosh can dominate, they can win this series.

What really concerns me is our perimeter D, which has just been atrocious. With the streaky shooters the Magic have (mainly Turk, Lewis, and Bogans), this could be our downfall.

Both teams are unproven with the current rosters in the post season, so there's no clear cut winner. The home court advantage may decide the series.

Phesto
04-17-2008, 01:06 PM
Bosh and Howard both have a lot to prove in the playoffs. Should be a fun series :lol

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Marty Burns of SI said Toronto will win in 6! He doesn't realize the Toronto pg's have sucked as of late.

Good thing 9 out of 10 ESPN experts picked the Magic in 5 or 6 games. Marc Stein the only fool.

Phesto
04-17-2008, 01:39 PM
Hippos, why the new-found enthusiasm is the Orlando Magics?

kwajo
04-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Marty Burns of SI said Toronto will win in 6! He doesn't realize the Toronto pg's have sucked as of late.

Good thing 9 out of 10 ESPN experts picked the Magic in 5 or 6 games. Marc Stein the only fool.
While the Magic will probably win the series, they'd still better watch out for Jason "The Boneman" Kapono...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/raptors_aa2b_001.jpg

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 02:08 PM
Hippos, why the new-found enthusiasm is the Orlando Magics?


I am an Orlando Magic fan.:confusedshrug:

ps. Raptors are a horrible team who should feel lucky to win one game.

Phesto
04-17-2008, 02:26 PM
I am an Orlando Magic fan.:confusedshrug:

ps. Raptors are a horrible team who should feel lucky to win one game.

I agree the Raptors are pretty horrible. But the Magic aren't much to write home about either. First to lose 4 goes home!

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 02:31 PM
I agree the Raptors are pretty horrible. But the Magic aren't much to write home about either. First to lose 4 goes home!

These series are best 4 out of 7 now?

NoHandles
04-17-2008, 02:48 PM
These series are best 4 out of 7 now?

First round has been best-of-7 for the past few years now.

bjtrdff
04-17-2008, 03:09 PM
These series are best 4 out of 7 now?


Wow, you have so much basketball knowledge that your prediction of the Raps going down fills me with fear.

Have you literally not watched any playoff basketball for the past few years?

out|hoops|side
04-17-2008, 03:10 PM
First round has been best-of-7 for the past few years now.

Now I can see why us Canadians get a bad rep on ISH...

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Noobs are great to play with.

Phesto
04-17-2008, 03:14 PM
What a witty rebuttal! I mean, it was so obvious you were messing around.

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 03:16 PM
What a witty rebuttal! I mean, it was so obvious you were messing around.

99% of the board would have known.

I'm just saying. Clearly you aren't a noob looking at your join date....but I'm just saying.

Phesto
04-17-2008, 03:20 PM
99% of the board would have known.

I'm just saying. Clearly you aren't a noob looking at your join date....but I'm just saying.

Are you referring to being a fake Magic fan or the fact that the 1st round is a best-of-seven? Your best-of-seven comment was what confused me since it was a pretty random thing to say.

:cheers:

bjtrdff
04-17-2008, 03:33 PM
99% of the board would have known.

I'm just saying. Clearly you aren't a noob looking at your join date....but I'm just saying.


99% of the board wouldn't have known, it wasn't nearly as clever or obvious as you would think. I'm glad you eventually looked at the join date too, that was a solid touch.

i seen hippos
04-17-2008, 03:39 PM
Are you referring to being a fake Magic fan or the fact that the 1st round is a best-of-seven? Your best-of-seven comment was what confused me since it was a pretty random thing to say.

:cheers:

You said first to lose 4 goes home, so I made a similarily silly remark by claiming I didn't know the first round was best 4 out of 7. I thought after your silly remark, mine would have been taken in the proper context.:oldlol:


99% of the board wouldn't have known, it wasn't nearly as clever or obvious as you would think. I'm glad you eventually looked at the join date too, that was a solid touch.

Read above. Slow your roll.

ForceOfNature
04-17-2008, 04:51 PM
That thread title is so plain. :sleeping

Yeah exactly. This title is better. Anyway, I say Magic win this one in 6 games. Raptors are a decent team, but their talent level is just a little below Orlando's, that's why I'm picking Orlando to win.

DavidLeeforMVP
04-17-2008, 11:09 PM
4-1 Magic :banana:

:party:


agreed maybe 4-2. If bosh makes howard our ***** we just take Nelson, Lewis and Turkoglu to make perimeter shots

greymatter
04-17-2008, 11:42 PM
If Van Gundy has the Magic come in ready to play, 4-1 is realistic. If both teams play their best ball, then 4-2.

Tips4
04-18-2008, 02:19 AM
You said first to lose 4 goes home, so I made a similarily silly remark by claiming I didn't know the first round was best 4 out of 7. I thought after your silly remark, mine would have been taken in the proper context.:oldlol:



Read above. Slow your roll.

why are u wearing a Orlando Magics avatar ? you lost a bet or something ?

fiad06
04-18-2008, 02:29 AM
Its MAGIC, not MagicS

That is so annoying.... Do you says Heats too?

ForceOfNature
04-18-2008, 10:12 AM
In honor of the playoffs and this series, I'm gonna sport this avatar (major props to FashionIssues for its creation):

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa173/fashionissues/6gklyg.jpg

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
The Raptors may win one game if they are lucky but most likely they are going to get swept by Orlando. When they do, can we never have any more topics comparing Bosh and Howard again? Bosh isn't even close to being the impact player Howard is now, or ever. I'm tired of these homeristic Raptors fans acting like their players and team are on a completely different level than what is reality. Maybe getting spanked in the postseason again will bring them some humility for at least a couple of months into the summer.

Howard is going to feast on anyone the Raptors throw at him, and all Bosh is going to do is look helpless. You can MFD book that sh!t! :pimp:

TruthKGRay3412
04-18-2008, 10:33 AM
What if Bosh craps on Dwight? Will you stfu after?

Kiddlovesnets
04-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Well, the truth is that the Raptors won't get swept and they do stand a chance to upset the Magic. Dwight Howard is way too overrated and offensively, he's just an MAD(Merely a dunker). He does post good defense and it will make Chris Bosh upset, but the Magic's backcourt is surely worse than the Raptors. I would say the Magic win in 6 or 7 and more than 3 games of the series will be pretty tight.

ForceOfNature
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
I gotta say Bosh is sometimes a little hyped up by the Canadian media and fans. Not to take anything away from him (he's still a great player), but Dwight Howard is better at this point.

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
What if Bosh craps on Dwight? Will you stfu after?

Yeah I will get on my pet pig and fly away.

kwajo
04-18-2008, 10:39 AM
While I agree that the Magic will win the series, you shouldn't really speak ill of a guy that has averaged 34ppg against your team over the past 2 seasons.

RoseCity07
04-18-2008, 10:44 AM
Sorry to say but neither the Magic or Raptors have a shot at winning a championship this year. Hell they won't make it to the ECF's. So how about don't talk **** about an All Star PF who is more of a complete basketball player than Dwight Howard?

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Sorry to say but neither the Magic or Raptors have a shot at winning a championship this year. Hell they won't make it to the ECF's. So how about don't talk **** about an All Star PF who is more of a complete basketball player than Dwight Howard?


People used to say the same thing about Garnett compared to a prime Shaq and Duncan. But Garnett was garbage compared to those 2. You can have your "complete player", that's usually the card people pull when comparing someone to a superior player.

mrhoopfan
04-18-2008, 10:59 AM
I'm a d12 fan but I watched a game in Fewbruary where Bosh absolutely DESTROYED Dwight.....gave hime like 22 in the first half......the key matchup will be how Nelson handles Calderon/Ford...also, will Orlando's bench give them quality production?

2LeTTeRS KD
04-18-2008, 11:12 AM
Both bigs will put up monster numbers in this series. Bosh can't guard Dwight, and Dwight can't guard Bosh. People aren't talking about it much but expect this to be one of the most exciting series of the post-season.

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 11:14 AM
I'm a d12 fan but I watched a game in Fewbruary where Bosh absolutely DESTROYED Dwight.....gave hime like 22 in the first half......the key matchup will be how Nelson handles Calderon/Ford...also, will Orlando's bench give them quality production?

Dwight had 37 points(13-16)/15 rebounds and Bosh had 40 points(14-16)/5 rebounds. Yep he sure "DESTROYED" Dwight Mr.D12 fan. :rolleyes: Now go put on your dunce cap and go sit in the corner.

AirJCoolKat23
04-18-2008, 11:16 AM
Dwight Howard is going to dominate this series, but Bosh will also do some damage. Chris Bosh has said he doesn't want to be known as one of those guys who never leave the first round, he's going to take his team as far as he can, but the other Raptors need to step up as well.

mrhoopfan
04-18-2008, 11:19 AM
Dwight had 37 points(13-16)/15 rebounds and Bosh had 40 points(14-16)/5 rebounds. Yep he sure "DESTROYED" Dwight Mr.D12 fan. :rolleyes: Now go put on your dunce cap and go sit in the corner.

From Van Gundy himself:We could not guard him," said Van Gundy. "We didn't have anybody that could guard him. We'll have to think about double-teaming him next time."



Thats coming from Orlando's head coach:rockon:

ihatetimthomas
04-18-2008, 11:32 AM
Its not an insult for Dwight to be catergorized w/ Bosh. Bosh is a very good player. Offensively, he is far ahead of Dwight. Defensively and reb wise, Howard is far superior. I'd take Dwight on my team but Bosh is a very good player. Hits freethrows, decent post game, decent midrange game. I would take either, but I would take Dwight on the hope he develops a more sound offensive game.

bada bing
04-18-2008, 11:38 AM
freaking troll. majority of the ish community, INCLUDING RAP FANS, picked dwight over bosh. I dont know where the **** you are getting your sh!t from. When talking about the team game, why is it so pathetic for fans to cheer for their team? rap fans have seen their team play against orlando and believe they matchup well and depending on what team shows up, they can take on the magic.

just stfu and get lost.

LJJ
04-18-2008, 11:40 AM
AllNBAArenas, how does it feel to have Dwight's meat in your mouth? Good?

Kebab Stall
04-18-2008, 11:44 AM
Raptors won't get swept and saying lucky to win one game is just down right idiotic. Orlando will probably win the series, but it isn't going to any park in the park for Dwight going up against Rasho and Bosh.

gpfanz
04-18-2008, 11:48 AM
yes sir also goes for the case where if Orlando get swept,can we never mention Bosh&Howard in the same breath again? :party:

omarnyc
04-18-2008, 11:52 AM
even if the raptors lose dont mean dwight is a better player then bosh, b-ball is a team game. dwight will get his dunks and put backs, and bosh will get anything he want, dwight is not a good defensive player and he's a one dimensional offensive player. he's big and athletic and a lil overhyped

Good Old Willy
04-18-2008, 11:57 AM
Heart says Raps in 5.

3 months ago I would have said Raptors in 5.

Talent wise on paper, I would say Raps in 5.

But now, considering
- coaching
- game trends
- how well the Magic have been playing
- confident Howard
- how badly the Raps have been playing
- the unresolved Rap PG issues
- the terrible Rap bench play...

... now my head says Magic in 5.

:banghead:

Phesto
04-18-2008, 12:00 PM
Its MAGIC, not MagicS

That is so annoying.... Do you says Heats too?

I think that's why we say Magics. Magic fans are easily annoyed, hence the fun! Just like how "Craptors" is thrown about (so often that it doesn't really register anymore).

It's best to just shrug it off.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 01:19 PM
This series will be very close. 6 or 7 games, most of them down to the wire.

Let's look at the matchups:

Center: Rasho Nesterovic vs. Dwight Howard - Rasho has been awesome lately, but it would be foolish to suggest that Dwight isn't a much more talented and athletic player. If Rasho can hold Dwight to under 20 points in a couple games, it will greatly help the Raptors cause. Not an unrealistic goal, but hard to accomplish if the Raptors let Dwight get close to the basket too often. Bosh or Moon might need to help Rasho by doubling Dwight at times, if Howard can make good kick out passes to Rashard and Hedo, they will get a LOT of open three point looks. Oh, and Dwight will absolutely own the boards in this series, should have well over 10 rebounds a game. Advantage - Magic

Power Forward: Chris Bosh vs. Rashard Lewis - Bosh is just a way better player than Rashard. Let's get that out of the way. No one on the Magic can defend Bosh. Bosh will almost certainly score over 20 points in every game, possibly with some 30 point games. This is not arrogance, it is just a fact that Bosh has owned the Magic for a while now. The Magic will probably double team Bosh at times, so Bosh will have to kick it out to AP, Calderon, and hopefully Kapono when he`s on. However, Rashard could offset Bosh`s offensive dominance by shooting well from the perimeter and slashing to the basket. Bosh does not like to drift out to the perimeter to defend, and Lewis could get a lot open 3 looks as a result. If he hits them at a good clip, the Magic will be in business. Advantage - Raptors

Small Forward: Jamario Moon vs. Hedo Turkoglu - Wow, the Magic have a big advantage here offensively. Much like the Raptors have no one to guard Bosh, the Raptors have no one to guard Hedo. Unless Hedo isn`t hitting his perimeter shots, which he will be. If Hedo tries to drive on Moon, some of his layups will get blocked. As for Moon`s offense, it ain`t great. Pretty much consists of dunks and contested, bricked jumpers. Moon could make up for this by rebounding the ball well and getting a few timely blocks.
Advantage - Magic

Shooting Guard: Anthony Parker vs. Maurice Evans - Um, I don`t really know who Maurice Evans is or what he`s good at. But he sucks compared to Euroleague MVP Anthony Parker. AP is the mutha****in man. If he is hitting his corner treys, look the fugg out. OK, I think that Mo Evans is a three point shooter, and the Raps suck at closing out on three point shooters, so he can make up for the ownage that AP is going to lay on his ass. OK ,in reality this might not be that big of an advantage, the Magic`s shooting guards are probably pretty much just as good as the Raptors`, but do not underestimate the big game experience of AP. Advantage - Raptors

Point Guard: TJ Ford vs. Jameer Nelson - I don`t want to sell Jameer Nelson short. He is a good distributor from what I`ve seen. He can find Dwight open near the basket, which could be vital, as no one can stop D12 when he`s close to the basket. But TJ Ford will absolutely own Jameer Nelson. There are times when TJ is absolutely unstoppable on the offensive end. However TJ sometimes forgets about his teammates and tries to do everything himself, which is when he starts getting stopped. TJ has to remember to be a distributor and a scorer. Advantage - Raptors

Head Coach: Sam Mitchell vs. Stan Van Gundy - The influence of coaching will be all over this series. I think Van Gundy is probably a better coach than Sam Mitchell. No offense to Sammy, but he makes some odd decisions at times. I don`t really even know how good of a coach Stan Van is, but Sam is mediocre enough to warrant this conclusion. Advantage - Magic

Bench: I have no idea which bench is better. The Raptors have Jose Calderon, who combined with TJ Ford gives the Raptors a definitive advantage at PG. But the Magic have Adonal Foyle at backup center, which should allow them to dominate the boards even when Howard is on the bench. The wild cards for the Raptors are Jason Kapono, Andrea Bargnani, and most importantly Carlos Delfino. All three of those guys can get extremely hot form behind the arc, but Delfino`s decent defense will allow him to play more minutes than the other two. Delfino has had a few games lately where his shooting is off the charts. And then they have Kris Humphries to play some spot big man minutes, this kid can flat out beast at times, but he is kind of dumb. The Magic seem to have a bunch of backup guards who can really shoot it, Keyon Dooling, Carlos Arroyo, JJ Redick, and Kieth Bogans. If those guys get involved offensively when and if they play, the Raps are in trouble. I`m not sure if Brian Cook is injured, I heard he was. That is a major boon for the Raptors, I was worried about his shooting. Advantage - Draw as far as I can tell


So basically, the teams are pretty damn even. The Raptors need to get both the point guards scoring and distributing, and Bosh needs to step up like he usually does against the Magic. The Magic need to feed it into Dwight a lot, and get Hedo, Rashard, and other shooters open looks. In terms of defense, well obviously reverse what I just said, Raptors try to contain Dwight, close out on three point shooters, Magic try to contain Bosh and the point guards.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 01:22 PM
Wow, that ended up being really long.

Valliant13
04-18-2008, 01:55 PM
Raps in 6.

I see Dwight putting up numbers but breaking down mentally from being unable to guard Bosh. Turkoglu wins 2 wins games pretty much on his own since he is the heart and clutch monster of that team. Rashard puts 18 game and goes home to cash his massively oversized cheque.

I can actually see Reddick going off if he gets some burn.

I actually like this Magic team (aside from Lewis the money pit) but I think their weakness at PG will outweigh there advantage at Center.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 02:06 PM
This series will be very close. 6 or 7 games, most of them down to the wire.

Let's look at the matchups:

Center: Rasho Nesterovic vs. Dwight Howard - Rasho has been awesome lately, but it would be foolish to suggest that Dwight isn't a much more talented and athletic player. If Rasho can hold Dwight to under 20 points in a couple games, it will greatly help the Raptors cause. Not an unrealistic goal, but hard to accomplish if the Raptors let Dwight get close to the basket too often. Bosh or Moon might need to help Rasho by doubling Dwight at times, if Howard can make good kick out passes to Rashard and Hedo, they will get a LOT of open three point looks. Oh, and Dwight will absolutely own the boards in this series, should have well over 10 rebounds a game. Advantage - Magic

Power Forward: Chris Bosh vs. Rashard Lewis - Bosh is just a way better player than Rashard. Let's get that out of the way. No one on the Magic can defend Bosh. Bosh will almost certainly score over 20 points in every game, possibly with some 30 point games. This is not arrogance, it is just a fact that Bosh has owned the Magic for a while now. The Magic will probably double team Bosh at times, so Bosh will have to kick it out to AP, Calderon, and hopefully Kapono when he`s on. However, Rashard could offset Bosh`s offensive dominance by shooting well from the perimeter and slashing to the basket. Bosh does not like to drift out to the perimeter to defend, and Lewis could get a lot open 3 looks as a result. If he hits them at a good clip, the Magic will be in business. Advantage - Raptors

Small Forward: Jamario Moon vs. Hedo Turkoglu - Wow, the Magic have a big advantage here offensively. Much like the Raptors have no one to guard Bosh, the Raptors have no one to guard Hedo. Unless Hedo isn`t hitting his perimeter shots, which he will be. If Hedo tries to drive on Moon, some of his layups will get blocked. As for Moon`s offense, it ain`t great. Pretty much consists of dunks and contested, bricked jumpers. Moon could make up for this by rebounding the ball well and getting a few timely blocks.
Advantage - Magic

Shooting Guard: Anthony Parker vs. Maurice Evans - Um, I don`t really know who Maurice Evans is or what he`s good at. But he sucks compared to Euroleague MVP Anthony Parker. AP is the mutha****in man. If he is hitting his corner treys, look the fugg out. OK, I think that Mo Evans is a three point shooter, and the Raps suck at closing out on three point shooters, so he can make up for the ownage that AP is going to lay on his ass. OK ,in reality this might not be that big of an advantage, the Magic`s shooting guards are probably pretty much just as good as the Raptors`, but do not underestimate the big game experience of AP. Advantage - Raptors

Point Guard: TJ Ford vs. Jameer Nelson - I don`t want to sell Jameer Nelson short. He is a good distributor from what I`ve seen. He can find Dwight open near the basket, which could be vital, as no one can stop D12 when he`s close to the basket. But TJ Ford will absolutely own Jameer Nelson. There are times when TJ is absolutely unstoppable on the offensive end. However TJ sometimes forgets about his teammates and tries to do everything himself, which is when he starts getting stopped. TJ has to remember to be a distributor and a scorer. Advantage - Raptors

Head Coach: Sam Mitchell vs. Stan Van Gundy - The influence of coaching will be all over this series. I think Van Gundy is probably a better coach than Sam Mitchell. No offense to Sammy, but he makes some odd decisions at times. I don`t really even know how good of a coach Stan Van is, but Sam is mediocre enough to warrant this conclusion. Advantage - Magic

Bench: I have no idea which bench is better. The Raptors have Jose Calderon, who combined with TJ Ford gives the Raptors a definitive advantage at PG. But the Magic have Adonal Foyle at backup center, which should allow them to dominate the boards even when Howard is on the bench. The wild cards for the Raptors are Jason Kapono, Andrea Bargnani, and most importantly Carlos Delfino. All three of those guys can get extremely hot form behind the arc, but Delfino`s decent defense will allow him to play more minutes than the other two. Delfino has had a few games lately where his shooting is off the charts. And then they have Kris Humphries to play some spot big man minutes, this kid can flat out beast at times, but he is kind of dumb. The Magic seem to have a bunch of backup guards who can really shoot it, Keyon Dooling, Carlos Arroyo, JJ Redick, and Kieth Bogans. If those guys get involved offensively when and if they play, the Raps are in trouble. I`m not sure if Brian Cook is injured, I heard he was. That is a major boon for the Raptors, I was worried about his shooting. Advantage - Draw as far as I can tell


So basically, the teams are pretty damn even. The Raptors need to get both the point guards scoring and distributing, and Bosh needs to step up like he usually does against the Magic. The Magic need to feed it into Dwight a lot, and get Hedo, Rashard, and other shooters open looks. In terms of defense, well obviously reverse what I just said, Raptors try to contain Dwight, close out on three point shooters, Magic try to contain Bosh and the point guards.

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 02:42 PM
even if the raptors lose dont mean dwight is a better player then bosh, b-ball is a team game. dwight will get his dunks and put backs, and bosh will get anything he want, dwight is not a good defensive player and he's a one dimensional offensive player. he's big and athletic and a lil overhyped

Yeah he will get anything he wants and do it much less efficiently. You do know that DH gets the ball in the basket 10% higher than Bosh right? Isn't that the point. Might have to have something to do why DH is regarded as the better player by most non-Raptor fans and the reason Orlando won 11 more games.


yes sir also goes for the case where if Orlando get swept,can we never mention Bosh&Howard in the same breath again?

The thing is that is NOT going to happen. :oldlol:


freaking troll. majority of the ish community, INCLUDING RAP FANS, picked dwight over bosh. I dont know where the **** you are getting your sh!t from. When talking about the team game, why is it so pathetic for fans to cheer for their team? rap fans have seen their team play against orlando and believe they matchup well and depending on what team shows up, they can take on the magic.



Yeah right half the Raps fans said the Howard will be a better player in the future but that Bosh is better now and a more "complete player" and sh!t. http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 02:43 PM
Dwight is a stat stuffer who relies on a freakish combination of size and athleticism. This allows him to a. rebound, b. dunk, c. block shots very well, but he is not a very skilled or smart player. He is an average one on one defender. He is hard to stop close to the basket, but if you can keep him a few feet away from the basket he becomes much less dangerous (not easy to do). His freakishness makes him dangerous on a more consistent basis than players who rely on skill.

Bosh is a very well-rounded player, can score from anywhere on the court, but is at his best when he goes to the basket. His combination of speed, length, strength, and offensive touch make him an extremely hard player to guard. He also has great character and leadership skills, and is a very smart player. He is an average one on one defender. He is a dangerous midrange shooter, and even more dangerous when he is on the baseline one on one, draws a lot of fouls or gets a lot of dunks in that scenario. Absolutely owns the Magic every time he plays them, has won 5 of last 6 games playing the Magic.


Neither player can guard the other, Rasho and Rashard will be guarding the opposing superstar a lot of the time in the upcoming series. Both will have big series and will both draw a lot of double teams, the one who kicks it out better, or can beat the double teams, will get the better of the series.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 02:47 PM
Yeah he will get anything he wants and do it much less efficiently. You do know that DH gets the ball in the basket 10% higher than Bosh right? Isn't that the point. Might have to have something to do why DH is regarded as the better player by most non-Raptor fans and the reason Orlando won 11 more games.



The thing is that is NOT going to happen. :oldlol:
You are obviously a troll. You just sound stupid. Of course Dwight has a higher field goal %, all he does is dunk. I am far more worried about Hedo and Rashard in this series than I am about Dwight. History shows that Chris Bosh makes Dwight his *****.

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 02:50 PM
Dwight is a stat stuffer who relies on a freakish combination of size and athleticism. This allows him to a. rebound, b. dunk, c. block shots very well, but he is not a very skilled or smart player. He is an average one on one defender. He is hard to stop close to the basket, but if you can keep him a few feet away from the basket he becomes much less dangerous (not easy to do). His freakishness makes him dangerous on a more consistent basis than players who rely on skill.




Couldn't you say the same thing about Shaq? You know that guy is who is a top 10 player of all time? What difference does it make how you do it? You want your big man to get the ball into the basket as efficiently as possible. That's what Dwight does MUCH more efficiently than Bosh.

DavidLeeforMVP
04-18-2008, 02:53 PM
This series will be very close. 6 or 7 games, most of them down to the wire.

Let's look at the matchups:

Center: Rasho Nesterovic vs. Dwight Howard - Rasho has been awesome lately, but it would be foolish to suggest that Dwight isn't a much more talented and athletic player. If Rasho can hold Dwight to under 20 points in a couple games, it will greatly help the Raptors cause. Not an unrealistic goal, but hard to accomplish if the Raptors let Dwight get close to the basket too often. Bosh or Moon might need to help Rasho by doubling Dwight at times, if Howard can make good kick out passes to Rashard and Hedo, they will get a LOT of open three point looks. Oh, and Dwight will absolutely own the boards in this series, should have well over 10 rebounds a game. Advantage - Magic

Power Forward: Chris Bosh vs. Rashard Lewis - Bosh is just a way better player than Rashard. Let's get that out of the way. No one on the Magic can defend Bosh. Bosh will almost certainly score over 20 points in every game, possibly with some 30 point games. This is not arrogance, it is just a fact that Bosh has owned the Magic for a while now. The Magic will probably double team Bosh at times, so Bosh will have to kick it out to AP, Calderon, and hopefully Kapono when he`s on. However, Rashard could offset Bosh`s offensive dominance by shooting well from the perimeter and slashing to the basket. Bosh does not like to drift out to the perimeter to defend, and Lewis could get a lot open 3 looks as a result. If he hits them at a good clip, the Magic will be in business. Advantage - Raptors

Small Forward: Jamario Moon vs. Hedo Turkoglu - Wow, the Magic have a big advantage here offensively. Much like the Raptors have no one to guard Bosh, the Raptors have no one to guard Hedo. Unless Hedo isn`t hitting his perimeter shots, which he will be. If Hedo tries to drive on Moon, some of his layups will get blocked. As for Moon`s offense, it ain`t great. Pretty much consists of dunks and contested, bricked jumpers. Moon could make up for this by rebounding the ball well and getting a few timely blocks.
Advantage - Magic

Shooting Guard: Anthony Parker vs. Maurice Evans - Um, I don`t really know who Maurice Evans is or what he`s good at. But he sucks compared to Euroleague MVP Anthony Parker. AP is the mutha****in man. If he is hitting his corner treys, look the fugg out. OK, I think that Mo Evans is a three point shooter, and the Raps suck at closing out on three point shooters, so he can make up for the ownage that AP is going to lay on his ass. OK ,in reality this might not be that big of an advantage, the Magic`s shooting guards are probably pretty much just as good as the Raptors`, but do not underestimate the big game experience of AP. Advantage - Raptors

Point Guard: TJ Ford vs. Jameer Nelson - I don`t want to sell Jameer Nelson short. He is a good distributor from what I`ve seen. He can find Dwight open near the basket, which could be vital, as no one can stop D12 when he`s close to the basket. But TJ Ford will absolutely own Jameer Nelson. There are times when TJ is absolutely unstoppable on the offensive end. However TJ sometimes forgets about his teammates and tries to do everything himself, which is when he starts getting stopped. TJ has to remember to be a distributor and a scorer. Advantage - Raptors

Head Coach: Sam Mitchell vs. Stan Van Gundy - The influence of coaching will be all over this series. I think Van Gundy is probably a better coach than Sam Mitchell. No offense to Sammy, but he makes some odd decisions at times. I don`t really even know how good of a coach Stan Van is, but Sam is mediocre enough to warrant this conclusion. Advantage - Magic

Bench: I have no idea which bench is better. The Raptors have Jose Calderon, who combined with TJ Ford gives the Raptors a definitive advantage at PG. But the Magic have Adonal Foyle at backup center, which should allow them to dominate the boards even when Howard is on the bench. The wild cards for the Raptors are Jason Kapono, Andrea Bargnani, and most importantly Carlos Delfino. All three of those guys can get extremely hot form behind the arc, but Delfino`s decent defense will allow him to play more minutes than the other two. Delfino has had a few games lately where his shooting is off the charts. And then they have Kris Humphries to play some spot big man minutes, this kid can flat out beast at times, but he is kind of dumb. The Magic seem to have a bunch of backup guards who can really shoot it, Keyon Dooling, Carlos Arroyo, JJ Redick, and Kieth Bogans. If those guys get involved offensively when and if they play, the Raps are in trouble. I`m not sure if Brian Cook is injured, I heard he was. That is a major boon for the Raptors, I was worried about his shooting. Advantage - Draw as far as I can tell


So basically, the teams are pretty damn even. The Raptors need to get both the point guards scoring and distributing, and Bosh needs to step up like he usually does against the Magic. The Magic need to feed it into Dwight a lot, and get Hedo, Rashard, and other shooters open looks. In terms of defense, well obviously reverse what I just said, Raptors try to contain Dwight, close out on three point shooters, Magic try to contain Bosh and the point guards.


that is a $hitty evaluation, ESPECIALLY the fact that you dont even kno who maurice evans is but you say he sucks, it dosent matter if he does or not, dont make ignorant statements. and for the PG argument ford would not OWN Nelson, nelson is a much better defender than ford and one of the best bullet passers in the league, i stopped reading after that but i would prolly get pissed off more if i had


edit: i just read the rest and you kno nothing about either team. this post fails

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 02:54 PM
History shows that Chris Bosh makes Dwight his *****.


You do know that you are going to have put that on a couple slices of bread with some mustard and mayo in about a week right?

bada bing
04-18-2008, 02:58 PM
that is a $hitty evaluation, ESPECIALLY the fact that you dont even kno who maurice evans is but you say he sucks, it dosent matter if he does or not, dont make ignorant statements. and for the PG argument ford would not OWN Nelson, nelson is a much better defender than ford and one of the best bullet passers in the league, i stopped reading after that but i would prolly get pissed off more if i had


edit: i just read the rest and you kno nothing about either team. this post fails

fine, why dont you entertain us with your own evaluation of both teams. thats what this thread is for, idiot.

skan72
04-18-2008, 03:00 PM
Couldn't you say the same thing about Shaq? You know that guy is who is a top 10 player of all time? What difference does it make how you do it? You want your big man to get the ball into the basket as efficiently as possible. That's what Dwight does MUCH more efficiently than Bosh.

The same thing about Shaq?!
...
You think Shaq's offensive skills = Dwight Howard's offensive skills?
Shaq had, in his prime, some of the best footwork for a post player, and great moves around the bucket. Sure he used his "hugeness" to his advantage a lot, but his post moves were far more advanced than Dwight Howard's, probably still are far more advanced than Dwight Howard's.

DavidLeeforMVP
04-18-2008, 03:01 PM
fine, why dont you entertain us with your own evaluation of both teams. thats what this thread is for, idiot.


well lets see i already told you about the PG situation, dwight will be garded by bosh and for him to say Van Gundy (I love him but still) is a better coach than Mitchell is ridiculous. Mitchell won coach of the year last year, every thing he evaluates starts with "well i dont really know about..."


Magic in 5 or 6

tsforthrees
04-18-2008, 03:04 PM
i'm going to say orlando in 6. i think the raps are better than their record would indicate, but orlando has been deadly on the road this season and should handle their business at home. i think orlando is deeper than most people give them credit for, they've got a very solid group of players on their bench. if dwight gets in foul trouble though, i could see this series going to 7. i'm kind of pulling for orlando in the east, even though i'm pretty apathetic, just cuz im not a big fan of paul pierce, ray allen, or the pistons.

tsforthrees
04-18-2008, 03:08 PM
only one team can win a series. i hate when people say one player is absolutely better than the other just because their team lost one playoff series to a rival. its not one players fault if their team loses in the playoffs in most cases.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 03:17 PM
well lets see i already told you about the PG situation, dwight will be garded by bosh and for him to say Van Gundy (I love him but still) is a better coach than Mitchell is ridiculous. Mitchell won coach of the year last year, every thing he evaluates starts with "well i dont really know about..."


Magic in 5 or 6
Wow, OK, so you actually think Sam Mitchell is a better coach than Stan Van Gundy? Fine, I`m down with that, although I will tell you that Sam`s coach of the year award does not make him that great.

I will admit that I don`t know that much about the Magic, but I know enough to know that TJ Ford is better than Jameer Nelson, and AP is better than Mo Evans. I`m not an expert, just giving my impressions.

And Dwight will probably be guarded by Rasho a lot, Bosh will need to guard Shard.

Raptors in 6.

Phenith
04-18-2008, 03:23 PM
If the Magic win the series, i'm willing to bet that it will be Hedo who is the difference maker, not DHo. I am a Raptors fan and I think that Bosh is overrated, but DHo is overrated as well...

On the Raps side, I would say the series will be won for them on the defense of Delfino, Parker and Rasho.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 03:23 PM
Couldn't you say the same thing about Shaq? You know that guy is who is a top 10 player of all time? What difference does it make how you do it? You want your big man to get the ball into the basket as efficiently as possible. That's what Dwight does MUCH more efficiently than Bosh.
Seriously man, you need to stop sucking Dwight Howards c0ck. He`s done.

AllNBAArenas
04-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Seriously man, you need to stop sucking Dwight Howards c0ck. He`s done.

That's funny because Bosh has a non-stop c0ck suck day in, day out by Raptors fans. We will just have to wait and see how Bosh and Howard do, as well as their teams. My guess is you are going to probably want to forget about this thread very, very soon.

Kungfro
04-18-2008, 03:41 PM
well lets see i already told you about the PG situation, dwight will be garded by bosh and for him to say Van Gundy (I love him but still) is a better coach than Mitchell is ridiculous. Mitchell won coach of the year last year, every thing he evaluates starts with "well i dont really know about..."


Magic in 5 or 6

Rasho will be guarding Dwight the majority of the time. And if your basing your decision about who's the better coach by the CotY award, you don't know enough about Mitchell.

AMG might have sold nelson short, but Torono definitly has an advantage in the point gaurd department, I don't see how you could argue that.

2LeTTeRS KD
04-18-2008, 03:44 PM
You are obviously a troll. You just sound stupid. Of course Dwight has a higher field goal %, all he does is dunk. I am far more worried about Hedo and Rashard in this series than I am about Dwight. History shows that Chris Bosh makes Dwight his *****.

And history shows that Dwight makes Bosh and the Raps his ***** right on back too. Funny how you forgot to mention that part.....

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 03:47 PM
And history shows that Dwight makes Bosh and the Raps his ***** right on back too. Funny how you forgot to mention that part.....
Ah, true, but the Raptors end up winning when the two of them go at each other like that.

A.M.G.
04-18-2008, 03:56 PM
That's funny because Bosh has a non-stop c0ck suck day in, day out by Raptors fans. We will just have to wait and see how Bosh and Howard do, as well as their teams. My guess is you are going to probably want to forget about this thread very, very soon.
Raptors fans just give credit where credit is due, Bosh is the man. You are comparing Dwight to Shaq, he is clearly not there yet, if ever.


Also, why would I want to forget this thread? Other than to erase the unpleasant experience of communicating with a troll like you, of course.


Do you expect me to just say ``Yep, the Raptors are going to get swept for sure, they stand no chance againt the incredible team that is the Magic! Oh, and Dwight Howard is better than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar!``

Um, no, I honestly think the Raptors will take this series to the brink and very possibly win it. And if I`m wrong about that, well ****, who the hell cares? Everybody is going to support their team before a series, you think I`m going to feel bad about doing that if my team ends up losing? You are a sad, petty little person, and I suspect you get beat up a lot for talking **** to people for no good reason.

Lakerfan1-Iceland
04-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Wow this is clearly THE matchup :) 11 replys compared to almost 250 replys to the Lakers Nuggets thread....

Should be a interestin matchu

GOBB
04-18-2008, 04:19 PM
Actually gonna jump on the Craptors here...dunno why.

Is everyone healthy on that team?

omarnyc
04-18-2008, 04:22 PM
Couldn't you say the same thing about Shaq? You know that guy is who is a top 10 player of all time? What difference does it make how you do it? You want your big man to get the ball into the basket as efficiently as possible. That's what Dwight does MUCH more efficiently than Bosh.

dwight right now is not even on a rookie shaq's level

skan72
04-18-2008, 04:29 PM
And history shows that Dwight makes Bosh and the Raps his ***** right on back too. Funny how you forgot to mention that part.....

How do you figure?
This season Orlando is 2-1 against the Raptors, one of those wins was when Bosh was not playing. So if we include Bosh it's 1-1 record. The win for the Raps Bosh dropped 40 and 10, with Howard putting up 37 and I believe 15, in the loss to Orlando Bosh scored 26 and grabbed 5 rebounds, with Howard scoring 17 points and hauling in 9 rebounds...I don't really see how this is Howard making Bosh AND the Raptors his b*tch?

skan72
04-18-2008, 04:57 PM
Wow, OK, so you actually think Sam Mitchell is a better coach than Stan Van Gundy? Fine, I`m down with that, although I will tell you that Sam`s coach of the year award does not make him that great.

I will admit that I don`t know that much about the Magic, but I know enough to know that TJ Ford is better than Jameer Nelson, and AP is better than Mo Evans. I`m not an expert, just giving my impressions.

And Dwight will probably be guarded by Rasho a lot, Bosh will need to guard Shard.

Raptors in 6.

I agree here, Raptors in 6. And the fact that DavidLee4MVP uses the Coach of the Year Award to decide who is the better coach shows us his opinion is worth nil in this discussion.
The Raps are better at the point position, Nelson is no true point guard, and Forderon will get the best of him for sure. And I know something about Mo Evans, he is athletic, a semi-decent player, but give me Anthony Parker and maybe even Delfino any day of the week. Rasho is a smart defender and will probably do okay on Dwight Howard while being his efficient self on the offensive end, Howard is more than likely going to get his though. Bosh, also, will get his as he has proven time and again that he can do that to Orlando. Rashard and Hedo worry me a bit, not so much Lewis actually, while Hedo is a chucker he could cause some problems for us.
Again, Raps in 6.

Good Old Willy
04-18-2008, 05:04 PM
EDIT : MODS. Duplicate. Merge threads please.

The existing thread has more collective value than this one. Posters and MOD's should show greater maturity and effort before starting and sticking new threads.

:no:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84270&page=6

Dash
04-18-2008, 05:14 PM
So basically, the teams are pretty damn even.

Sure they are. :rolleyes:

Phesto
04-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Sure they are. :rolleyes:

They aren't?

canadianballer
04-18-2008, 05:25 PM
Lets go Raps, get er done boys.

Bosh is gonna have to play like an all-star for the Raps to stand a chance. Hopefully Calderon can keep up that crazy 5:1 ast/TO ratio also.:rockon:

Good Old Willy
04-18-2008, 05:32 PM
This series will be very close. 6 or 7 games, most of them down to the wire.

Let's look at the matchups:...

Pretty good evaluation

I might add "FORM" as a criteria, which must be at least as important as those above. Magic have been playing excellent, confident winning ball the last month, Raptors the last month have been sliding and playing among the worst ball of the past two years. Advantage Magic.

This last point, I believe is what drives all the analyst's pro-magic predications. In Jan this series is 50-50 can go either way but skewed towards the Raps. Now its 90-10 in fav of the Magic.

DavidLeeforMVP
04-18-2008, 05:48 PM
I agree here, Raptors in 6. And the fact that DavidLee4MVP uses the Coach of the Year Award to decide who is the better coach shows us his opinion is worth nil in this discussion.
The Raps are better at the point position, Nelson is no true point guard, and Forderon will get the best of him for sure. And I know something about Mo Evans, he is athletic, a semi-decent player, but give me Anthony Parker and maybe even Delfino any day of the week. Rasho is a smart defender and will probably do okay on Dwight Howard while being his efficient self on the offensive end, Howard is more than likely going to get his though. Bosh, also, will get his as he has proven time and again that he can do that to Orlando. Rashard and Hedo worry me a bit, not so much Lewis actually, while Hedo is a chucker he could cause some problems for us.
Again, Raps in 6.


im not saying that sam is the better coach im saying that he is saying this $hit with nothin to back it up, obviously you have never seen jameer play cuz he will defend the $hit out of forderon anyday of the week. and hedo is definetly not a chucker this season. you phail

skan72
04-18-2008, 05:55 PM
im not saying that sam is the better coach im saying that he is saying this $hit with nothin to back it up, obviously you have never seen jameer play cuz he will defend the $hit out of forderon anyday of the week. and hedo is definetly not a chucker this season. you phail

I was reading an interview with Van Gundy about a month ago and he even said Hedo was a chucker. He said something along the lines of how Hedo doesn't take the smartest shots, and a lot of his shots usually make Van Gundy groan (no homo) but when he makes 'em it's nice. He may hit more now, which is great, but according to Van Gundy he is a chucker.
Well Jameer will clearly tire, unless you think he can play 48 minutes a game all series, and Forderon is two guys who can split 48 minutes between them easy, so we will see how Jameer fares in that department.

ForceOfNature
04-18-2008, 06:06 PM
EDIT : MODS. Duplicate. Merge threads please.

The existing thread has more collective value than this one. Posters and MOD's should show greater maturity and effort before starting and sticking new threads.

:no:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84270&page=6

I too am in favor of merging or dumping this thread (that I'm posting in now), even though I created it.

shaoyut
04-18-2008, 07:45 PM
bosh vs howard:confusedshrug:

DavidLeeforMVP
04-18-2008, 10:24 PM
I was reading an interview with Van Gundy about a month ago and he even said Hedo was a chucker. He said something along the lines of how Hedo doesn't take the smartest shots, and a lot of his shots usually make Van Gundy groan (no homo) but when he makes 'em it's nice. He may hit more now, which is great, but according to Van Gundy he is a chucker.
Well Jameer will clearly tire, unless you think he can play 48 minutes a game all series, and Forderon is two guys who can split 48 minutes between them easy, so we will see how Jameer fares in that department.


good argument (serious) :applause:

KeylessEntry
04-18-2008, 10:29 PM
Magic in 6!

Carbooja
04-18-2008, 11:15 PM
Mods, delete this thread, there's a better one.

hawkfan
04-19-2008, 01:48 AM
This is Hedo's series.

If he plays well, the Magic win.

If he doesn't, they lose.

He is the go to guy for the Magic.

The Magic only go as far and Hedo takes them.

Zan Tabak
04-19-2008, 02:02 AM
This is Hedo's series.

If he plays well, the Magic win.

If he doesn't, they lose.

He is the go to guy for the Magic.

The Magic only go as far and Hedo takes them.

I agree with this ..Hedo seems to be the X factor for this series..if he's on his game the Raps will have a tough time containing him ..

but over all I see this being a long series 6 or 7 games..

JrRider
04-19-2008, 05:16 AM
raptors have looked so ugly in the past 2 months, i forgot what they play like when good

..magic in 5

bada bing
04-19-2008, 08:18 AM
i dont know why we think the raps will suddenly start playing pre-bosh injury in this series? they have been horrible and all my expectations in this series are based on the fact that they will suddenly play good like before........seems a little far fetch now but i still hope.

if the raps are playing like how they ended the season, this will be a very short series. I dont care what we say about the matchups.

so lets start hoping that they get it right.

power works
04-19-2008, 11:39 AM
Then again if raptor fans think nothing but happy thoughts :banana: , the club may suddenly feel that they have to redeem themselves of a subpar regular season and have a TOTAL MONSTER playoffs.

RAPS HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE, while an unsuspecting Magic may still be basking in the glow of winning 50 games, and get totally blindsided.

A game 1 win by the Raps will tell the story.

bada bing
04-19-2008, 02:04 PM
raps need to bring the same intensity the wiz have brought against the cavs. if they come out soft standing around the 3 point line...well....they can go **** themselves. frig..i wish sam mitchell would have come on insidehoops and read the fans talk about hi coaching and his team.

rapsfan3
04-19-2008, 03:29 PM
I have joined the Rasho bandwagon

bettalaylow
04-19-2008, 03:36 PM
Is there going to be a more boring first round series?

loyalfan1
04-19-2008, 03:48 PM
See below for details..

http://2008magicplayoffs.blogspot.com/

Lebron23
04-19-2008, 04:35 PM
Is there going to be a more boring first round series?


:roll: :oldlol: :roll:

plat1numX
04-19-2008, 08:28 PM
phily vs detroit and boston vs atlanta are far worse then this series lol

1~Gibson~1
04-19-2008, 09:08 PM
Is there going to be a more boring first round series?this is one of the most underrated series. most people wont watch because the teams are in the East and Orlando is better than Toronto. I personally think somehow Chris Bosh will win the series for toronto in 6 games.

danumber88
04-19-2008, 10:11 PM
Magic will win the first game. Then Raps will win the second. just a prediction..

plat1numX
04-19-2008, 11:38 PM
i personally think the raps will get their ass handed to them the first game, im not expecting much

DavidLeeforMVP
04-19-2008, 11:40 PM
i wouldnt be suprised if the raps get swept


magic will handle them at home and being a great road team might handle them on the road

Carbooja
04-19-2008, 11:46 PM
Kids Kids Kids...

This series will be a lot closer than many think.

Sweeps will be relegated to witches and Harry Potter wannabes carrying brooms.

plat1numX
04-19-2008, 11:53 PM
Kids Kids Kids...

This series will be a lot closer than many think.

Sweeps will be relegated to witches and Harry Potter wannabes carrying brooms.

hey, remind me again the raptors record against + .500 teams in the last 2 months

WildStyle
04-20-2008, 12:08 AM
How can watching Dwight Howard ever be boring?

Burgz
04-20-2008, 01:02 AM
the legend will be unleashed

get ready for a sky-high FG% to match his (rarely used but as witness unstoppable) sky-hook and throw in the solid fundamentals and a playoff savvy that has gotten him past mid-april, every season of his NBA career.

Get on board people, AIR RASHO, flight time 12:30pm sunday

this air rasho thing has caught on in the NBA forum, but it has even caught on in our own forum:oldlol: gotta lover that hahahaha

Uchiha_Hai
04-20-2008, 09:07 AM
How can watching Dwight Howard ever be boring?

When he isn't involved in the offense. Magic players better know what to do.

new noise
04-20-2008, 09:38 AM
hey, remind me again the raptors record against + .500 teams in the last 2 months

Big deal. Take a close look at Orlando's schedule the past 2 months, and I dare you to tell me they haven't had it easy. I can think of maybe 4 or 5 games that they shouldn't have won handily. And they still had losses to Minnesota, New York and Atlanta.

chains5000
04-20-2008, 10:37 AM
Any sopcast link for the game?

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 10:48 AM
After speaking with an NBA assistant coach on the phone last, I was told that some of the Orlando front office types are not thrilled about the match up with Toronto. Privately, they are wary of the Raptors ability to make shots and are worried about the backcourt match up.

SHEED_ gangsta
04-20-2008, 11:11 AM
wow this is gonna be a decent series I have alot of faith in my Raps taking it but for that to happend we need to play like the T RAPS were playing before Bosh got hurt a big X factor.... Hedo

NY Comeback
04-20-2008, 11:12 AM
Most people have the Magic taking this series easily, but I think Toronto will at least make it a little competitive. Toronto was on a roll before Bosh got hurt; their main thing is stay healthy in this series....

Oh, and get to the foul line! :banghead:

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 11:14 AM
Yeah!

kidachi
04-20-2008, 11:14 AM
Magic would take this. D12 all day boy!

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 11:44 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4PLHjzkYbRI&feature=related

kidachi
04-20-2008, 11:46 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4PLHjzkYbRI&feature=related

ok?

Kiddlovesnets
04-20-2008, 11:58 AM
I'd appreciate it very much if anyone of you would give me a Sopcast link...

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 12:03 PM
http://www2.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=10663&part=sports

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 12:12 PM
http://images.pictopia.com.edgesuite.net/perl/get_image?size=480_art&provider_id=202&ptp_photo_id=4230816&md=0000-00-00%2000:00:00

bada bing
04-20-2008, 12:17 PM
man, pm the links...dont post it here...

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 12:24 PM
That wasn't a link to the game and I can't PM..

Kebab Stall
04-20-2008, 12:31 PM
Has anyone got a gamelink?

R.H.C.P.
04-20-2008, 12:35 PM
It's on TSN for everyone in Canada.

dak121
04-20-2008, 12:35 PM
It can't be said enough.

TNT ****s on ESPN coverage-wise. It's not even close.

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 12:36 PM
bargnani starting?

plat1numX
04-20-2008, 12:36 PM
andrea is starting for moon hmm

BIG FURB
04-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Man, that intro got me geeked for today's games. Terrence Howard, bringing the hype

leopoldstotch
04-20-2008, 12:38 PM
is this a first?
a current head coach (mike dunleavy) doing commentary for a basketball game ? :lol

FireMcFailPlease
04-20-2008, 12:43 PM
magic are going to score 60 pts this qtr

Sicknote
04-20-2008, 12:43 PM
Orlando 6/6 from the field.

Game's on TNT.

BryantGasol89
04-20-2008, 12:43 PM
3's galore at the moment

plat1numX
04-20-2008, 12:43 PM
toronto/ford ass already

dak121
04-20-2008, 12:43 PM
Magic can't miss.

Reef
04-20-2008, 12:44 PM
Fu.ck..orlando's on fire..raps have to close out on the 3 point shooters

Kebab Stall
04-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Still waiting for a link guys.

Sicknote
04-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Bargnani won't try that again.

plat1numX
04-20-2008, 12:48 PM
ims till surprised teams dont sell out arenas in the playoffs, last year new jersey now orlando

ForceOfNature
04-20-2008, 12:50 PM
I'm just so excited to see Orlando have homecourt advantage in a playoff game for the first time since... 1999.

Dwight Howard swattin' them flies.

Sicknote
04-20-2008, 12:51 PM
Howard with a block on Rasho now.

blazerftc
04-20-2008, 12:51 PM
ims till surprised teams dont sell out arenas in the playoffs, last year new jersey now orlando

Bad economy and super-expensive tickets.

dak121
04-20-2008, 12:52 PM
Bargnani off the court. He looked lost to say the least.

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 12:52 PM
Dwight Howard is blocking every single shot that the Raptors put up in the paint.

plat1numX
04-20-2008, 12:53 PM
ford is garbage

dak121
04-20-2008, 12:53 PM
This is like practice for the Magic. One easy look after another.

leopoldstotch
04-20-2008, 12:53 PM
i never really knew how quick dwight howard's second jump is until now.

blazerftc
04-20-2008, 12:54 PM
Man! Magic are just shooting the lights out from 3!

32 pts in the FIRST QUARTER! wow

R.H.C.P.
04-20-2008, 12:55 PM
This game already looks over! You need to get Calderon in right now.

Kiddlovesnets
04-20-2008, 12:55 PM
Wow, TJ Ford sucks so bad...

Valliant13
04-20-2008, 12:55 PM
Why is Mitchell leaving TJ in.... he's destroys the flow of the offense, throws up contested jumpers early in the shot clock...and carries himself self like douche bag. I've never hated a player on the team I cheer for so much.

Reef
04-20-2008, 12:56 PM
Only positive is Bosh going to the basket. Hopefully he can get some guys in foul trouble.

Noob Saibot
04-20-2008, 12:57 PM
Howard is owning the paint down low. Lewis cannot miss.

blazerftc
04-20-2008, 12:57 PM
Maybe Howard should adopt the finger wag...

ForceOfNature
04-20-2008, 12:57 PM
3-point party!!! :party: :party: :party:

konex
04-20-2008, 12:57 PM
Craptors ain't ready for primetime..

Kiddlovesnets
04-20-2008, 12:58 PM
The Magic is 7-9 on Three point shooting in the first quarter!:bowdown:

bokes15
04-20-2008, 12:58 PM
The defense is bad, but at the same time, we'd probably have almost as many points as they do if it wasn't for the type of impact Dwight Howard is having in the paint.

rapsfan3
04-20-2008, 12:58 PM
Well, the Magic are unstoppable right now they are lights out from the field and if they keep this up they will make it to the NBA Finals with no problem.

StroShow4
04-20-2008, 12:59 PM
mo evans is on fire right now... dwight is sending away everything in the paint for the raptors, 3 blocks already.

plat1numX
04-20-2008, 01:00 PM
Well, the Magic are unstoppable right now they are lights out from the field and if they keep this up they will make it to the NBA Finals with no problem.

they will be knocked out next round, you know...when they play a team that can play defense

yeaaaman
04-20-2008, 01:00 PM
damn the raptors just seem unprepared when it comes to a game like this, they shouldnt be getting dominated like this... looks dangerously familiar to game 3 in NJ last year, they just dont look ready, i thought this year would be different but this is not the best way to start... it is only game 1 though