Round 1, Mavs-Hornets game 2, Tue 7pm ET

[insidehoops]

Tue night at 7pm ET

[BryantGasol89]

Hornets to go 2-0 up with CP3 having another magnificent game. Dirk also putting up impressive numbers too.

[Silverbullit]

Hornets to go 2-0 up with CP3 having another magnificent game. Dirk also putting up impressive numbers too.

Kidd will slow down Paul, and Dirk will show West how to play playoff basketball.

The Mavs steal this game, 100-96!

[Legend of Josh]

Yeah - I see Kidd clamping down on CP3 tonight. It wouldn't shock me to see Paul get 18-22 points tonight, but if he has another astounding performance tonight, I will be.

Avery will ensure the Mavs play high level basketball in the second half tonight. If Dallas can come out again shooting the lights out before halftime, I think they'll have a good chance of winning this game.

I expect Stackhouse will get more playing time tonight, and will be this game's X factor. Kidd will need to produce a little more offensively himself late in the game if need be. If Dirk can have a stellar first half, his teammates should pick up the slack in the 3rd and first half of the 4th quarter.

Peja needs to take more shots which means playing more minutes. Chandler needs to contribute more offensively as he maintains his defensive / rebounding mindset. Don't expect him to have as many offensive rebounds as he did in Game 1.

I still feel this series could go either way, but tonight, I say Dallas wins.

Dallas - 104
NO - 98

[kentatm]

Go Mavs

they will take it in 7.

[TruthKGRay3412]

Lets go Hornets!:banana:

[baseketball4life]

bump, game is starting soon

[RiPPn]

Go Mavs!:cheers:

[ALBballer]

For the sake of the Mavericks and his own reputation, Dirk needs to have a great game.

And I expect David West to see a hard "foul" today.

[Younggrease]

Dirk needs to come out and put up at least 40 to earn half of his manhood back.

[kkling]

Oh great, more wooing.

[Sicknote]

If Josh Howard missed that it would've made him look like a total *******.

[baseketball4life]

dunleavy commentating? :oldlol:

[SoCalMike]

I am sorry, but Dirk just plays soft.... its in his DNA... even when he tries to foul hard, he's a spaz.


:pimp:

[hotsizzle]

I dont know why but recently I've been rooting for Dirk. I guess I feel that he gets too much crap

[kentatm]

damnit stack dunk the ball

[Sicknote]

I dont know why but recently I've been rooting for Dirk. I guess I feel that he gets too much crap

Same here. And "CP3" sounds gay as hell when said outloud. Nice block Chandler.

[The Bund]

Dunleavy's a good analyst. He used to announce NBC, and filled in for Doug Collins when he was sick a couple years ago on a Lakers TNT Playoff game.

[CAAIDN]

Alley-oop

[baseketball4life]

chandler ever score other than alley oops and FT's?

[baseketball4life]

dirty play by damp?

[kentatm]

great. already in the bonus.

[Styl3zT]

pretty nasty foul, cp has a great floater

[Sicknote]

Pretty move by Paul. Floated it over both bigs.

[kentatm]

Dunleavy's a good analyst.

and a bad coach.

[Sicknote]

chandler ever score other than alley oops and FT's?

Nope, dude can't make his own shot. Paul made him this year.

[CAAIDN]

CP3 nice move!!!

[Styl3zT]

Nope, dude can't make his own shot. Paul made him this year.

can't agree more

[Showtime]

dirty play by damp?
nah, it was a good foul.

[Showtime]

Nope, dude can't make his own shot. Paul made him this year.
I remember a stat that CP's lobs account for 28% of TC's scoring.

[kentatm]

are they gonna act like NO is completely rebuilt? ive been there recently and a ton of it is still pretty f-ed up

[baseketball4life]

Nope, dude can't make his own shot. Paul made him this year.
i havent watched chandler more than about 10 games this year so i didnt want to make a general statement about him without knowing... but looks like its true he cant do nothin on his own

[FabCasablancas]

coaches are picking Avery apart even worse every post season..

it's getting worse not better...



if Avery was predictable before..

he's become completely transparent by now..

[SoCalMike]

Mavs look completely intimidated right now... is Stack hurt or something?


:pimp:

[Styl3zT]

CRAZY elbow by dampier

[baseketball4life]

haha dampier has come out really aggressive

[kentatm]

CRAZY elbow by dampier

please. Shaq made himself doing that to people

[SoCalMike]

coaches are picking Avery apart even worse every post season..

it's getting worse not better...



if Avery was predictable before..

he's become completely transparent by now..

As are your posts on this subject...



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[Styl3zT]

please. Shaq made himself doing that to people

lol except he never gets caught

[baseketball4life]

Mavs look completely intimidated right now... is Stack hurt or something?


:pimp:
no he just blows

[Silverbullit]

Mavs start are little nervous...

[CAAIDN]

Dirk!

[kentatm]

lol except he never gets caught

wouldnt say he was never caught. more like the refs swallowed their whistles up until the last couple years.

[Sicknote]

Dirk with teh floppp.

[baseketball4life]

Dirk got the foul on that 3 but i think he shoulda went down to Kidd again, make Paul work on D

[beesechurger]

is this whole thread just hatin on dallas and not on how good NO r ?

[Styl3zT]

I wonder is west will give nowitski a little more slap action tonight

[kentatm]

Dirk with teh floppp.

gotta see the replay to know if he got hit on the wrist or not. of course we dont get it.

[Styl3zT]

wow peja missed a free throw, suprising

[Dasher]

I wonder is west will give nowitski a little more slap action tonight
Dirk would have to retire if that happens. The funny thing about David West is that he is one of those model citizen types.

[Styl3zT]

another lob to chandler

[baseketball4life]

Paul to TC they're whoring that out

[baseketball4life]

Dallas just looking at each other while CP3 picks them apart

[kentatm]

Bass lets more of his men slip by him for easy dunks.....

Avery needs to understand Bass is NOT a center and CANT play him there as one if he expects to win.

[CAAIDN]

Oop!!!

[Dasher]

You would think that Dallas would look to find Ty on the secondary break.

[ALBballer]

Dirk needs to command the ball.

[FabCasablancas]

As are your posts on this subject...



:pimp:

WTF does that mean? lol Could you possibly be more vague?

[Showtime]

Dirk with the flop on the 3, passing up the shot when CP switched over, lol how can anybody defend him?

[kentatm]

You would think that Dallas would look to find Ty on the secondary break.


you would think Avery would be able to make in game adjustments by now

[kentatm]

WTF does that mean? lol Could you possibly be more vague?


i think he was pretty clear.

[FabCasablancas]

Dirk needs to command the ball.

Dirk should have commanded a new coach a long time ago...

[JordanL]

Am I reading this right? Does Paul have seven assists nine minutes into the game?

[Showtime]

you would think Avery would be able to make in game adjustments by now
Because Avery is the player who loses TC in transition...:confusedshrug:

[yobore]

I think Mavs should drop the doubles Paul isn't always gonna shoot as well as he is in Day 1 but he wil roast the traps every time.

[Dasher]

you would think Avery would be able to make in game adjustments by now
The onus is on the players in this case. They have played the Hornets too many times for their head to not be on a swivel when Tyson is in transition.

[FabCasablancas]

i think he was pretty clear.

You would.

Since you were the one who made the post..

[Styl3zT]

Am I reading this right? Does Paul have seven assists nine minutes into the game?

yes, he is an amazing pg

[CAAIDN]

Peja with the 3

[kentatm]

Because Avery is the player who loses TC in transition...:confusedshrug:

perhaps he should have taught Bass how to do it.

regardless, Avery cant make in game adjustments.

[Styl3zT]

basket by paul plus 8 assist and no turnovers... wow

[SoCalMike]

you would think Avery would be able to make in game adjustments by now

Yes, because its Avery's fault his team is not rotating quickly enough or at all... its Avery's fault that Dirk misses two free throws and Kidd misses an open 10 footer.... Its Avery's fault their 7 foot forward cannot guard anyone (West abusing him).

Guys, the Mavs are getting out played right now... not sure why you cannot see that. No coach in the world could change that.

Its frustrating because the Mavs don't seem to have playoff energy and intensity right now.



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[CAAIDN]

Paul is amazing

[Gundress]

Mavs look like they lost in their confidence. Mavs are not a great team.

[StroShow4]

are you ****ting me chris? wow. :eek:

[baseketball4life]

damn CP3!

[Indian guy]

Chris Paul is just too good. I regret not watching more NO games during the regular season.

[yobore]

lol paul

[CAAIDN]

Pargo for three!!!

[CAAIDN]

Paul beating the buzzer!!!

[Dasher]

Is Avery at fault for Dirk not stopping the ball on the Paul buzzer beater?

[Mewwem22]

CP3 is destroying the Mavs just like Baron Davis did last year. :bowdown:

[Showtime]

Is Avery at fault for Dirk not stopping the ball on the Paul buzzer beater?
He didn't teach them how to run fast enough :rolleyes:

[Silverbullit]

Hornets shot >70% in first quarter :banghead:

[FabCasablancas]

Someone needs to tell Avery that great.. or even good... offense is a form of defense..

[Laker4Lyfe]

Chris Paul is just too good. I regret not watching more NO games during the regular season.

I know what you mean, I just can't get over this guy. He doesn't fear the Mavs at all.

I love D Fish, but I sure wouldn't mind having him on the Lakers. :cheers:

[death valley40]

Chris Paul! I'm not worthy :bowdown:

[baseketball4life]

CP3 is destroying the Mavs just like Baron Davis did last year. :bowdown:
wasnt Kidd brought in for this?

[yobore]

They need to just get Paul a bigger defender like George or Howard and rotate in when he drives. Traps are not working it's basically 5 on 4. Paul isn't going to continue to hit all his shots but he is going to find the open man every time. Make him do the scoring.

[kentatm]

Yes, because its Avery's fault his team is not rotating quickly enough or at all... its Avery's fault that Dirk misses two free throws and Kidd misses an open 10 footer.... Its Avery's fault their 7 foot forward cannot guard anyone (West abusing him).

Guys, the Mavs are getting out played right now... not sure why you cannot see that. No coach in the world could change that.

Its frustrating because the Mavs don't seem to have playoff energy and intensity right now.

thats Averys job to teach the rotations. He is supposed to be a defensive guy and its gotten worse every year he has been here. These are the players he wanted. This is the team he wanted. He is the one that calls for the doubles, traps etc. Dude is a control freak but he is like the cheapo remote control cars that only turn one way in circles. As for intensity, its also the coaches job to get the team prepared and up for the game. Clearly he did not and hasnt done it for some time now.

to top it off the offense under him has become one of the most predictable and boring ones in the NBA even though he has multiple guys who can fill it up.

[Showtime]

Someone needs to tell Avery that great.. or even good... offense is a form of defense..
Avery = your scapegoat.

At what point does the accountability with the coach end and the responsibility of the players begin? If Avery is to blame, then who was to blame before Avery took over? Don?

[ALBballer]

I know what you mean, I just can't get over this guy. He doesn't fear the Mavs at all.

I love D Fish, but I sure wouldn't mind having him on the Lakers. :cheers:

:lol

I wouldn't mind Tim Duncan on the Knicks.

[baseketball4life]

is Pam Oliver busty? i kinda see it

[Sicknote]

:lol

I wouldn't mind Tim Duncan on the Knicks.

Along with Kobe and Dwight. :D

[billybadass]

dallas shouldve kept harris. not saying he'd shut down paul but he was a good flopper and could probably at least get him in foul trouble. they got nobody to man up on this dude

[FabCasablancas]

Is Avery at fault for Dirk not stopping the ball on the Paul buzzer beater?

Yes he is.. when your offense and defense are as poor as the mavs it makes the opponent extremely confident.. then they hit every shot..

Like Kobe's 61 in 3 quarters against the Mavs..

Wade's 35 points in every finals game against the Mavs..

Duncan's 35 poitn sin every playoff game against the Mavs..

Baron's 30 plus ine evry playoff game against the Mavs..

[SoCalMike]

Someone needs to tell Avery that great.. or even good... offense is a form of defense..

Yes, because Avery does not know this... :oldlol: (perfect example of transparency)

The Mavs need to bring some freaking energy to this game. They are intimidated, slow, flat footed and outclassed by the Hornets. I hope they wake up and make a game of it.



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[DOMINATOR]

chris paul :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[yobore]

Duncan's 35 poitn sin every playoff game against the Mavs..

Don't know why you'd include that one when they beat the best team in the league

[SoCalMike]

Avery = your scapegoat.

At what point does the accountability with the coach end and the responsibility of the players begin? If Avery is to blame, then who was to blame before Avery took over? Don?

Very well said!!!



:pimp:

[FabCasablancas]

Avery = your scapegoat.

At what point does the accountability with the coach end and the responsibility of the players begin? If Avery is to blame, then who was to blame before Avery took over? Don?

When he can develop an offense and defense that consists of more than one on one play at both ends..

when he figures out Xs and Os enough so that he can adapt his coaching style to his star player..

instead of forcing his star to adapt to him because he is so ignorant about basketball..

[Sicknote]

Terrible pass by Terry..

DID BONZI JUST YELL **** AFTER HE MISSED THAT FT? LMAO

[baseketball4life]

why do the commentators always say that Wells is so good? does anyone else feel that Bonzi is a big fat scrub at this stage of his career?

[Silverbullit]

I don't know why every Mav's bench player needs to shoot as soon he is on the court :banghead:

[Sicknote]

Damn, Bass gets UP!

[FabCasablancas]

Don't know why you'd include that one when they beat the best team in the league

Because Duncan was injured in that series..

Avery was guarding Duncan with one-on-one coverage.. if Duncan wasn't injured, and Avery guards him like that, Duncan puts up 50 every game against Avery's excuse for a defense and offense..

[CAAIDN]

Bass putback

[ALBballer]

No way does Peja have the quickness to keep up with Stack and Howard. IMO they really need to exploit him.

[Showtime]

Paul hasn't played in the 2nd and they are still up 11. Paul has 6 points on 3-3, including a buzzer beater, 8 dimes, 2 rebounds in 12 minutes.

[Dasher]

The Mavs averaged 100 points a game this year, while surrendering only 95. It looks like Avery put together both good offensive and defensive packages.

[kentatm]

Very well said!!!



:pimp:


not really. any follower of the Mavs knows damn well Nellie was only going to take them so far b/c he never gives a damn about D. He's a good coach to build a team but he has NEVER taking anyone anywhere.

Also, I hate to trash Avery in the playoffs but its starting to get insane. The only great coach he ever took down was Pop and if Manu doesnt have a brain fart and foul Dirk AJ would have blown a 3-1 series lead. He consistently gets out coached by anyone of note. Have you guys already forgotten his taking Kidd out of the last minute vs the Spurs for no good reason?

Hell, signing Maglorie and refusing to play him in blowouts to even see if he could be of use was the breaking point for me. I still think Avery can do it but his ego is so massive he might not. The dude thinks he is right at ALL times no matter what you say. Its never his fault for anything. I listen to him do press conferences all the damn time and I can count on one hand the amount of times he has taken the blame for anything.

[Shepseskaf]

when he figures out Xs and Os enough so that he can adapt his coaching style to his star player..

instead of forcing his star to adapt to him because he is so ignorant about basketball..
Delusional doesn't even begin to explain this reasoning. Avery knows the game very well. His team just isn't very good, and are getting their butts handed to them.

Seriously, who didn't see this coming?

[kentatm]

The Mavs averaged 100 points a game this year, while surrendering only 95. It looks like Avery put together both good offensive and defensive packages.


its called watch the games. the offense is really not very good and the D cant stop good guards for anything.


and good god i cant stand Stackhouse. I still am blown away he is on the team

[CAAIDN]

Peja 3

[stephanieg]

Bonzi Wells's teal headband makes him look like a ninja turtle. That is all.

[Sicknote]

All these Mavs turnovers suck. Careless mistakes.

[Dasher]

its called watch the games. the offense is really not very good and the D cant stop good guards for anything.


and good god i cant stand Stackhouse. I still am blown away he is on the team
Cuban is to blame for the Mavs not being able to stop quick guards. Avery did not trade Devin Harris.

[FabCasablancas]

The Mavs averaged 100 points a game this year, while surrendering only 95. It looks like Avery put together both good offensive and defensive packages.

They almost missed the playoffs you dumass.. lol They were a 60 win team the past 2 season thanks to the infrastructure Nellie put in place.. without the remnants of that Avery would be even worse..

[kentatm]

by the way, I'm not saying the players are blameless. they do have to perform. however Dirk is the only one you can trust to show up with any real consistency.

the problems some of them have being streaky is exacerbated greatly though by Averys strange rotations and calls.

[Sicknote]

Haha, when Chandler misses a layup..

"Oh Good God."

[SoCalMike]

not really. any follower of the Mavs knows damn well Nellie was only going to take them so far b/c he never gives a damn about D. He's a good coach to build a team but he has NEVER taking anyone anywhere.

Also, I hate to trash Avery in the playoffs but its starting to get insane. The only great coach he ever took down was Pop and if Manu doesnt have a brain fart and foul Dirk AJ would have blown a 3-1 series lead. He consistently gets out coached by anyone of note. Have you guys already forgotten his taking Kidd out of the last minute vs the Spurs for no good reason?

Hell, signing Maglorie and refusing to play him in blowouts to even see if he could be of use was the breaking point for me. I still think Avery can do it but his ego is so massive he might not. The dude thinks he is right at ALL times no matter what you say. Its never his fault for anything. I listen to him do press conferences all the damn time and I can count on one hand the amount of times he has taken the blame for anything.

This is your explanation for the Mavs not doing well? (as I just see Kidd missing a layup and putback he should have made)

Come on now... there is more to this dynamic than just Avery... think it through.



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[Dasher]

They almost missed the playoffs you dumass.. lol They were a 60 win team the past 2 season thanks to the infrastructure Nellie put in place.. without the remnants of that Avery would be even worse..
They made the playoffs in the most competitive Western Conference in NBA history. If you google dumass naughty things show up. Learn to use spell check before you hurl insults.

[kentatm]

Cuban is to blame for the Mavs not being able to stop quick guards. Avery did not trade Devin Harris.

uh, you are misinformed. Cuban was against the trade and had to be talked into it by Avery. That was and Avery call 100%.

[R.I.P.]

uh, you are misinformed. Cuban was against the trade and had to be talked into it by Avery. That was and Avery call 100%.

If that is true, Avery is unemployed if Dallas goes down in the first round.

[baseketball4life]

CP3 just dropping dimes

[kentatm]

This is your explanation for the Mavs not doing well? (as I just see Kidd missing a layup and putback he should have made)

Come on now... there is more to this dynamic than just Avery... think it through.


should have added my little but about the players needing to perform but this is Averys team. He built this team to his liking. if it doesnt work its his fault.

BTW, Avery said when he was hired if he didnt bring a title in 4 years, he should be fired. well..... this is the year.

[FabCasablancas]

Delusional doesn't even begin to explain this reasoning. Avery knows the game very well. His team just isn't very good, and are getting their butts handed to them.

Seriously, who didn't see this coming?

delusional? Dirk was one of the best playoff perfomers before Avery took over.. under Aveyr he's been one of the worst..

He tries to use Dirk like he's Tim Duncan.. when Dirk's game couldn't be different than Duncan's

It's the equivalent of trying to use Tim duncan like Reggie Miller...

Same exact thing with Kidd.. Avery takes Kidd and tries to use him like Devin harris..

Avery has no shooters.. other than Dirk.. Dirk won the three point shoot out and Avery won't let him shoot threes and let's Josh shoot 5 per game and Josh can't shoot to save his life..

Dirk and Kidd should complement each othe rperfectly.. Avery has no clue how to use them and no idea how to adapt his system to them

[kentatm]

If that is true, Avery is unemployed if Dallas goes down in the first round.

i kinda feel like he needs to bring the team to the WCFs and be competitive if he wants to hang around.

[Sicknote]

Anyone else disturbed by the giant Peja heads on a stick? :oldlol:

[CAAIDN]

Peja with the 3

[FabCasablancas]

They made the playoffs in the most competitive Western Conference in NBA history. If you google dumass naughty things show up. Learn to use spell check before you hurl insults.

Barely made the playoffs against teams that are equally as talented or lacking in talent..

Avery lost to a 8 seed as the one seed with homecourt advantage.. that's how good his offensive and defensive systems are, genius...

And you don't deserve spell check.. I save that for people with a clue.. you are lucky I even respond to your DUMASS.

[04mzwach]

Who's getting sick of this commentator kissing CP3's ass? I mean there is a difference between giving props and kissing a players ass all game long. Who is this retard?

[hwliuLAP]

Kidd can not shoot to save his life
that's going to hurt Mavs big time
I knew he couldn't shoot, but he's starting to look like Eric Snow out there

[Sicknote]

Woah, Devin Harris held him to 10% lower FGs than Kidd. But yeah, Paul's getting his ass kissed this game, that guy needs to shut the hell up.

[bence23]

Barely made the playoffs against teams that are equally as talented or lacking in talent..

Avery lost to a 8 seed as the one seed with homecourt advantage.. that's how good his offensive and defensive systems are, genius...

And you don't deserve spell check.. I save that for people with a clue.. you are lucky I even respond you your DUMASS.
:roll:

[kentatm]

delusional? Dirk was one of the best playoff perfomers before Avery took over.. under Aveyr he's been one of the worst..


umm... no. not true at all. he has had two bad series. I think they have played a few more playoff games than that.



It's the equivalent of trying to use Tim duncan like Reggie Miller...

:roll: nope. bad comparison.


Same exact thing with Kidd.. Avery takes Kidd and tries to use him like Devin harris..

well, he told him to score more... but other than that how the hell is this true?


Avery has no shooters.. other than Dirk.. Dirk won the three point shoot out and Avery won't let him shoot threes and let's Josh shoot 5 per game and Josh can't shoot to save his life..

Terry cant shoot? (streaky I'll give you) Eddie Jones was supposed to and busted but that was an Avery signing so its his fault.

also, JHo shoots less than 3 three pointers a game. He shot 40% on them the last two years. Its a mystery as to why it dropped to just 32% this year.

[R.I.P.]

It took the Mavs 1 1/2 games and now Peja thinks he

[Sicknote]

Looked like Eddie was ready to bodyslam Paul.

Bass completely just killed that MVP chant. :oldlol:

[CAAIDN]

Paul is quick man.

[Whiteness]

I think Kidd has severely slowed down the Mavs. I remember watching the Mavs about 2-3 years ago and it was intense... Kidd just isn't a good fit at all.

[Howard Schits]

The Mavs are playing scared, the same look of their faces as last year's Golden State series.

[kentatm]

why Avery thinks this small lineup is worth a damn I'll never know. The Mavs are so much better with Damp (or any real C) on the floor it makes my teeth hurt.

[kentatm]

I think Kidd has severely slowed down the Mavs. I remember watching the Mavs about 2-3 years ago and it was intense... Kidd just isn't a good fit at all.

its not Kidd. Its Averys offense. It was slow this year and last with Harris as well. Its gotten slower every year under Avery.

[Shepseskaf]

delusional? Dirk was one of the best playoff perfomers before Avery took over.. under Aveyr he's been one of the worst..
Yeh, back in 2006 when they made the final -- with Avery -- Dirk was really stinking it up. :rolleyes:

Give it up, dude. There's a lot more wrong with Dallas then Avery. Trying to load everything on his shoulders not only wrong, its stupid.

When Avery get fired, who'll take the blame then?

[Silverbullit]

Stack with 2-7, KIdd 2-6, Howard 3-8 :banghead:

[ALBballer]

Do the Mavs have an identity? They don't play defense and on offense they have a bunch of jump shooters. At least with the old Mavs you knew they could score. With this bunch, they're trying to build a conventional team around a player with an unconventional style.

[FabCasablancas]

Yeh, back in 2006 when they made the final -- with Avery -- Dirk was really stinking it up. :rolleyes:

Give it up, dude. There's a lot more wrong with Dallas then Avery. Trying to load everything on his shoulders not only wrong, its stupid.

When Avery get fired, who'll take the blame then?

If you don't see how bad Avery is coaching you either aren't watching the Mavs games or you are clueless about Basketball..

[konex]

The Kidd trade is a total disaster. They get very few easy points w/o Devin's slashing..

[FabCasablancas]

umm... no. not true at all. he has had two bad series. I think they have played a few more playoff games than that.



:roll: nope. bad comparison.


Like you know what youa re talking about.. you wanted Avery as coach over Nellie..

That's got to be the poorest decision in NBA history..

That's worse than Tractor Traylor for Dirk..

Or Cuban letting Nash go to a team in his ownconference and winning 2 MVPs..

[Showtime]

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[FabCasablancas]

I just remembered why all these people are defending Avery.. LOL

They don't want him fired.. what better way to beat a team than to have them beat themselves..

[kentatm]

Do the Mavs have an identity? They don't play defense and on offense they have a bunch of jump shooters. At least with the old Mavs you knew they could score. With this bunch, they're trying to build a conventional team around a player with an unconventional style.


i think thats many of the Mavs fans issue with Avery.

When he got the team it was full of swiss army knife type players who all could play multiple spots and do several things. He has transformed it into on with guys that can only do one thing and forces Dirk to play more conventional. He wants a slow offense and thats just not gonna work with the type of players he has. His defense has become a joke even though he keeps going after "defensive players" (imo b/c they are so worthless on offense they cause fast breaks for the other team w/awful shooting and shot selection)

[Silverbullit]

So let's look forward, what does the Mavs have to do to win this game?

- stop those crappy fouls
- stop those crappy turnovers
- start playing defense
- keep George on bench
- play basketball and DON'T listen to Avery!

[Shepseskaf]

If you don't see how bad Avery is coaching you either aren't watching the Mavs games or you are clueless about Basketball..
I've probably been watching basketball longer than you've been alive. I know the game quite well, thank you very much.

The Mavs are a team on the decline, and though Avery is certainly part of it, he certainly isn't solely responsible. They will never recover from blowing the 2006 Finals.

Like I said, Avery will be fired after they get bounced in this series. If the core of the team remains the same, they'll get no farther next year -- if even this far. Maybe then Dirk will finally take some of the blame, as he deserves to.

[Diesel J]

When Avery get fired, who'll take the blame then?

Like I said before,Fabs likes the old Nellie Mavs that scored alot but never had a real chance of winning anything:oldlol: It wasn't until Avery cam along that the Mavs,Dirk included,finally manned up.

[Silverbullit]

Like I said before,Fabs likes the old Nellie Mavs that scored alot but never had a real chance of winning anything:oldlol: It wasn't until Avery cam along that the Mavs,Dirk included,finally manned up.

That's not true.

[kentatm]

Like you know what youa re talking about.. you wanted Avery as coach over Nellie..

That's got to be the poorest decision in NBA history..

That's worse than Tractor Traylor for Dirk..

Or Cuban letting Nash go to a team in his ownconference and winning 2 MVPs..


actually, I wanted Nellie and Avery to stay together longer but that was not an option. Face it. Nellie had checked out on this team. He wasnt even coaching practice by the end of it. Avery seemed like he would grow and be great at the time but he has stagnated. I still think he can end up being great. I just dont know if that can happen in Dallas b/c Avery has a whole lotta ego that needs to be swallowed.

BTW, your hyperbole and made from thin air stats are what get people to bash you.

[CAAIDN]

NO will win this game and the series.

[kentatm]

Maybe then Dirk will finally take some of the blame, as he deserves to.

WTF? Dirk got shat on nearly all year over the GS series.

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Paul double-double at half. West having a good game.

[Silverbullit]

NO will win this game and the series.

I'm not sure yet!

[FabCasablancas]

I've probably been watching basketball longer than you've been alive. I know the game quite well, thank you very much.

The Mavs are a team on the decline, and though Avery is certainly part of it, he certainly isn't solely responsible. They will never recover from blowing the 2006 Finals.

Like I said, Avery will be fired after they get bounced in this series. If the core of the team remains the same, they'll get no farther next year -- if even this far. Maybe then Dirk will finally take some of the blame, as he deserves to.

"Finally Dirk will take some blame"? Now we know you are full of it.. Dirk has been taking all the blame.. his coach has seen to it.. and his coach is responsible for it.

Avery is the one who kept the core together.. he was the one who recommended signing Dampier to that huge contract. If this team is to blame he built the team..

[kentatm]

i did notice Dirk did not get up off his locker room seat to put his hand in the "go team" thing Avery just did. He just reached that long arm out and kinda half heartedly did it.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Atleast CP knows hes overrated at half time. I'd be pissed if he thinks that hes actually a great pg. He said well I just have really great teammates this wouldnt be posssible without them. Which is the truth but since he is so overrated on a global scale it will come off as modesty.

[Diesel J]

That's not true.

Yes it is.What did the Mavs accomplish before Avery came along?Before Avery got there,Dirk was a considered a "soft" player who could score but didn't rebound,play defense or show any passing ability.Under Avery,his D and passing improved a ton.Dirk didn't really erase his soft label until Dirk's breakout series against the Spurs that got them to the finals.What did he do alot in that series that he didn't do pre-Avery?I'll tell you,he finally manned up and started taking it hard to the whole instead of being a 7ft guard:oldlol:

[kentatm]

Yes it is.What did the Mavs accomplish before Avery came along?Before Avery got there,Dirk was a considered a "soft" player who could score but didn't rebound,play defense or show any passing ability.Under Avery,his D and passing improved a ton.Dirk didn't really erase his soft label until Dirk's breakout series against the Spurs that got them to the finals.What did he do alot in that series that he didn't do pre-Avery?I'll tell you,he finally manned up and started taking it hard to the whole instead of being a 7ft guard:oldlol:

thats not true either. Dirk has improved an aspect of his game every year with or without Avery. The Mavs made the WCFs and took the Spurs to 6 even though they lost Dirk in the series and it took Steve Kerr going to nuts outta nowhere to sink them.

[FabCasablancas]

actually, I wanted Nellie and Avery to stay together longer but that was not an option. Face it. Nellie had checked out on this team. He wasnt even coaching practice by the end of it. Avery seemed like he would grow and be great at the time but he has stagnated. I still think he can end up being great.

You just lost all credibility.

[Diesel J]

thats not true either. Dirk has improved an aspect of his game every year with or without Avery. The Mavs made the WCFs and took the Spurs to 6 even though they lost Dirk in the series and it took Steve Kerr going to nuts outta nowhere to sink them.

That's the year Webber went down.If Webber doesn't go down the Mavs never make it that far considering those Webber lead Sac teams always owned the _allas Mavs.

Mavs never went anywhere pre Avery = FACT!

[FireMcFailPlease]

LOL @ dallas

[kentatm]

You just lost all credibility.

exactly how is that so?

team aint gonna win with George coming in and launching 3s

[kentatm]

That's the year Webber went down.If Webber doesn't go down the Mavs never make it that far considering those Webber lead teams always owned the _allas Mavs

Mavs were leading that series when CWebb went down.

[Shepseskaf]

This game is over. What else is on?

[Lakers Fan]

http://toonrefugee.com/toonblog/wp-content/uploads/cooked-cardinal.jpg

[ALBballer]

You know your ****ed when Peja can hit his shots in the playoffs.

[Silverbullit]

exactly how is that so?

team aint gonna win with George coming in and launching 3s

I agree. I can't stand the guy :banghead:

[Diesel J]

Mavs were leading that series when CWebb went down.

No they weren't.Webber got injured from what I remember in the 2nd game of the series.Sac won the first game

[Amigo]

I'm glad that Dirt and his Mavs won't make it out of the first round again. :applause:

[Sicknote]

This is a disaster for Dallas.

[Gundress]

its OVER.....MAVS SUCKS!!!!!!!! AKA CHOKE!!!!!!

[Amigo]

Mark Cuban looks like Frankensteins monster in that close up. Seems like he's having some ruff nites. Who wouldn't with a team like his.

[StroShow4]

i can't wait to see what chuck has to say after this game :oldlol:

[Silverbullit]

It's raining threes again. Deja vu.

[RandomBalla55]

You know your ****ed when Peja can hit his shots in the playoffs.

:oldlol: .

Cold, but true.

[DuMa]

devean george. you're garbage.

[Y2Gezee]

I hate Devean George

[Silverbullit]

I hate Devean George

I knew it!

[Whiteness]

Who else has NO going to the western finals?... I do... Impulsive decision... more of a hope than a reputable pick. I want them to win. CP3 is my favorite player these days...

[MarloStanfield]

Jason Kidd looks like a scrub playing against Chris Paul...

[MarloStanfield]

i can't wait to see what chuck has to say after this game :oldlol:
Wonder how much he lost to Kenny? LOL 5 g's?

[Diesel J]

Mavs were leading that series when CWebb went down.

I found the link

Kings' Webber has knee surgery

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2003/06/11/webber030610.html

go here for the series game by game scores

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2003.html

[FabCasablancas]

Avery should have been forced to resign before the playoffs... any idiot should have seen this coming..

[yobore]

Paul's just trying to make highlights now

[RandomBalla55]

Chris Paul is just so good. Damn.

If I was Dallas, only Dirk and maybe Terry has permission to shoot for the rest of the series. Kidd putting up jumpers is an ugly sight..

[billybadass]

katrinas revenge

[dak121]

Warriors/Nuggets vs. Hornets would've been a lot more competitive than this. At least they're not the Lakers.

[Z3120]

And who exactly thought Mavs are better against Hornets? Avery? Dirk? Having the Lakers in the first round looks mighty better than suffering from 2 blowouts.

[MarloStanfield]

Jason Kidd looks old and slow...I can't see him starting on a winning team for more than one more season.

[ALBballer]

Where in the World is Josh Howard?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61GT4CR4BBL._SS400_.jpg

[hwliuLAP]

anyone who has watched basketball in the past 8 years and is picking Nellie over Avery for the Mavs is just plain dumb.
Nellie had no shot at winning a title, absolutely none with the no D.
George Karl is pretty much a poor man Nellie with their style of run shoot and wait for a defensive rebound. Anyone that thinks Nellie would have brought the Mavs a ship is just dumb.
Avery on the other hand, is just another defensive minded coach like Mike Brown who used to be able to get players to play defense, but can't do squat now after trading away Harris and Diop, he just doesn't have the players to play defense nor does he have the coaching skills to do well on the offensive end.

[dak121]

Asswhoopin

[RandomBalla55]

:oldlol: :oldlol: at guys running around the court with Peja faces.

With the Ric Flair "WOOOOOOOOO" everytime Chris Paul scores, the Hornets must have a tradition for everyone on the team.

[gts]

Avery should have been forced to resign before the playoffs... any idiot should have seen this coming..wow i never knew you felt that way, you should have said something sooner

[c_az_a]

How exactly has Dirk Nowitzki been to the free throw line 13 times. He's the softest player i ever seen. I seen that guy fall in any direction or flop to get to the free throw line. Can someone explain how he gets to the free throw line despite flopping, being soft.

[ALBballer]

How exactly has Dirk Nowitzki been to the free throw line 13 times. He's the softest player i ever seen. I seen that guy fall in any direction or flop to get to the free throw line. Can someone explain how he gets to the free throw line despite flopping, being soft.

He's been killing who's ever guarding him off the dribble and the double team has been coming late, so they end up fouling him.

Where's Josh Howard?

http://www.worldvillage.com/wv/school/images/scrnshot/waldo3.gif

[shrempf_on_rice]

Did Dallas forget their D at home or did Denver decide to borrow it. Geez!

[Silverbullit]

How exactly has Dirk Nowitzki been to the free throw line 13 times. He's the softest player i ever seen. I seen that guy fall in any direction or flop to get to the free throw line. Can someone explain how he gets to the free throw line despite flopping, being soft.

Easy, he gets fouled on every shot he tries!

[Lebron23]

The New Orleans Hornets are the suprised team of the season, and I think the Mavericks need to play tough defense in the 4th quarter because you cannot beat a team that is playing great on both side of the floor.

[StroShow4]

http://www.worldvillage.com/wv/school/images/scrnshot/waldo3.gif

i've been looking for like 5 minutes and i can't ****ing find waldo.

[BankShot]

at the end of the third quarter, Chris Paul has two less assists than the entire Mavs team (15-13)

[Amigo]

at the end of the third quarter, Chris Paul has two less assists than the entire Mavs team (15-13)

Embarrassing. Cuban must be contemplating suicide right about now.

[c_az_a]

at the end of the third quarter, Chris Paul has two less assists than the entire Mavs team (15-13)

What's impressive, he's hitting 60%+ from the field. Jason Kidd has really improved Dallas defense. lol

[Z3120]

Nice bonus coverage by TNT. They might as well show it until the Suns and Spurs game start.

[StroShow4]

dallas is getting beat so bad TNT dropped the game in favor of the raptors :oldlol:


i'd be pretty pissed if i was a hornets fan though.

[Whiteness]

Nice bonus coverage by TNT. They might as well show it until the Suns and Spurs game start.
They don't need to show the Hornets game....ha.

[Sicknote]

Um yeah.. anyone wanna fill me in? Was this planned or is it because this is a nasty blowout while the TO-OR game is close?

Lmfao, I was watching the Hornets, my girl IMs me so I forget about the game. She asks what I'm doing, I say 'watching the Hornets' and I look at the TV and see Turkoglu driving and a putback by Howard. I thought my TV broke. :oldlol:

[ALBballer]

I know the Mavs are getting killed, but I would rather watch Chris Paul and Dirk Nowitzki play.

[Diesel J]

dallas is getting beat so bad TNT dropped the game in favor of the raptors :oldlol:


i'd be pretty pissed if i was a hornets fan though.

:roll:

[Z3120]

i'd be pretty pissed if i was a hornets fan though.

I don't know. I expect all home court announcers to constantly praise their players, but the way that one announcer kept ranting on and on about Paul got really annoying...

[Whiteness]

I know the Mavs are getting killed, but I would rather watch Chris Paul and Dirk Nowitzki play.

word.

[JellyBean]

Dang. Dallas is getting spanked!!

[ALBballer]

I don't know. I expect all home court announcers to constantly praise their players, but the way that one announcer kept ranting on and on about Paul got really annoying...

But everything they're saying is true. The Mavs are straight up rattle on defense. I feel pity for them like I would for a rape victim.

And they've tried everything to stop them. Pressure the inbounding, double team, single team, and putting a guard on him. And the mofo still is tearing them apart.

[Showtime]

dallas is getting beat so bad TNT dropped the game in favor of the raptors :oldlol:


i'd be pretty pissed if i was a hornets fan though.
Yes and Yes. I want to watch my hornets beat the sh!t out of dallas.

[Lebron23]

Embarrassing. Cuban must be contemplating suicide right about now.

http://www.ceosmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cuban-dancingx-large.jpg

[nash4eva!gosuns]

iight. sick dunk by chandler.

[starface]

someone please photoshop skirt nowitzki into this picture
http://www.charmin.com/en_cn/images/ults_prod_blogo.jpg

[Amigo]

http://www.ceosmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cuban-dancingx-large.jpg

LMFAO!!!!!:roll:

Those were better days for the owner of the Mavs.

[Showtime]

Hey Dallas, remember how you said you wanted to face the hornets?

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR B!TCHES

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/33/fullj.45085acc46233b8f7b3ab38303e6139c/45085acc46233b8f7b3ab38303e6139c-getty-80327534lm019_dallas_maveri.jpg

[Younggrease]

I tune in and expect a good game..I see a blowout? what a joke. is Dirk even elite anymore?

[Doomsnite Danny]

Dallas is Done!!!! Thank you!!!!!

[Lebron23]

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6567/dirkso7.jpg

It's fishing time

[Z3120]

But everything they're saying is true. The Mavs are straight up rattle on defense. I feel pity for them like I would for a rape victim.

And they've tried everything to stop them. Pressure the inbounding, double team, single team, and putting a guard on him. And the mofo still is tearing them apart.

I know it is true. It's just that one good stretch where I think he went a 10 minute span where I'm like "am I watching a game or hearing a guy rant about Paul." Guess that's when the game finally got out of hand if the announcers ain't saying much about the game, lol.

Paul's dominating the game and is an assist to practically every highlight and run, and the Mavs looks so lost everywhere, from offensive sets (if they have any besides that lame 2 man game I keep seeing) and defense (if it's there), I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the announcers going off elsewhere.

[Amigo]

West a 3 in Dirk's face. In your face!!!! Good D there Dirt.:applause:

[dak121]

Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Generals.

[Doomsnite Danny]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[kentatm]

Dirk and Bass were the only ones to show up.

Terry hasnt scored enough to offset his terrible D.

the perimeter D has been a joke.

Avery had better turn this series around in Dallas...

[Showtime]

The baby faced assassin strikes again. Damn

[Amigo]

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6567/dirkso7.jpg

It's fishing time

He can get the rod and tackle box ready now.

[FabCasablancas]

Hey Dallas, remember how you said you wanted to face the hornets?

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR B!TCHES

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/33/fullj.45085acc46233b8f7b3ab38303e6139c/45085acc46233b8f7b3ab38303e6139c-getty-80327534lm019_dallas_maveri.jpg

Both games would have looked like this against the lakers.. even worse..

[Lebron23]

Another great performance from Chris Paul. He is undeniably the best PG in the NBA this season, and all i can say this kid is destine to be one of the greatest player of all time.

CP3 for MVP

[FabCasablancas]

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6567/dirkso7.jpg

It's fishing time

Someone who's been owned by Dirk apparently..

[Diesel J]

CP3 for MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!:bowdown: :roll:

[FabCasablancas]

It's all about the system.. Avery's system.. lol trust in the system.. lol

[gts]

all the hornets have done is win the games they were supposed to at home, now it's dallas's turn... although it doesn't look good for dallas at this point. but they can't be counted out yet... this hornets team has also been known to cave in...

[Dasher]

someone please photoshop skirt nowitzki into this picture
http://www.charmin.com/en_cn/images/ults_prod_blogo.jpg
Cha...cha...cha....Charmin.

[ALBballer]

I tune in and expect a good game..I see a blowout? what a joke. is Dirk even elite anymore?

Dirk needs to shoot more. 11 attempts and your team is getting killed?

I think he's really really good player. IMO, the only superstars in the league are Lebron James, Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan. KG comes close, but he's been on some bad teams.

And Dirk is one notch below. With Nash, Stoudamire, Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, Chris Paul and so forth.

[Brunch@Five]

CP3 still padding stats? :D

j/k, he's putting up a clinic, good to watch, even though I'm a Dallas fan

[B-Low]

someone please photoshop skirt nowitzki into this picture
http://www.charmin.com/en_cn/images/ults_prod_blogo.jpg

Nah if you gently touch Charmin toilet paper it holds together. Dirk falls apart. They should do a split screen of THAT on their next commercial

[Whiteness]

a little choppy... not bad for five minutes of searching google images for the right dumb Dirk face... there's so many

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q35/wayne012491/dirk.jpg

choppy but good...

[mongePR(kb24)]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH DALLAS??? They have 2 HOF players, and the former best record... i dont undestand

[SoCalMike]

all the hornets have done is win the games they were supposed to at home, now it's dallas's turn... although it doesn't look good for dallas at this point. but they can't be counted out yet... this hornets team has also been known to cave in...

i count them out... unfortunately, they are not a playoff caliber team as they have shown over and over again. the organization has issues that will prevent them from getting to the nba title, imo. it starts at the top and trickles down.




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