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Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 09:01 AM
Maybe the series deciding gamed.

Mavericks dropped 8 out of 10 of their last playoffs games, but only 1 loss was at ACC.

Key questions:

Can anybody slow down Chris Paul?
Can Dirk Nowitzki step up?
Can Howard/Stackhouse/Kidd hit more than a few shots?


Feel free to discuss!

My prediction:
A formidable Dirk performance beats another career night of CP3, Mavericks by 8!

bigwebb5000
04-25-2008, 10:44 AM
this game will go as expected. hornets will probably come out flat, dallas will feed off the crowd and win by 10+. then game 4 the hornets will steal it and close it out in new orleans for game 5.

GEAUX HORNETS!!!

Brunch@Five
04-25-2008, 04:31 PM
Mavs by 8, Dirk with 35+ 10+

or

Mavs by 20+

edit: lol, didn't even read your prediction silver :D

TruthKGRay3412
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
If the Mavs don't win this game,they should get the fishing rods ready.No team has ever won a series after they went down 3-0.

http://www.nba.com/media/playoffs2007/fishin07_mavericks_600.jpg

brandonman
04-25-2008, 06:35 PM
At first I thought the Mavs would steal one of the first 2 in NO and take the series in 5, But after game 2 CP3 has chopped and screwed this series. Tonight however, Kidd and Dirk need to step up and carry this DAMN team to Victory. They will have the crowd behind them and they need to feed off that. I see the Mavs winning by double digits.

joe
04-25-2008, 07:06 PM
did anyone hear about stackhouse saying he wanted to kick byron scotts ass earlier in the season? haha. it's a great quote. im waiting for espn to put it up.

Joe

Kappy
04-25-2008, 07:55 PM
I think Dallas will win this one tonight .... And maybe even the next one!!!

Plaisted90
04-25-2008, 08:01 PM
Hornets win, CP3 drops 25/12

Peja goes lights out from behind the arc :D

KokeAyne
04-25-2008, 08:06 PM
Terry is starting tonight, and so is Josh Howard so he is definitely NOT suspended.

Plaisted90
04-25-2008, 08:14 PM
Oh boy chandler with 2 early fouls

hornets missing

krazy19
04-25-2008, 08:30 PM
Did anyone catch the there can only be one commercial with Ginboli/Nash. It was the same one but with Ginobli instead of Kidd. It was ugly.

picc84
04-25-2008, 08:35 PM
Hilton Armstrong has a long ass fukcin neck, man.

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 08:37 PM
Nice 1st quarter for the Mavericks, 7 up.
Dirk 9 points, 6 rebounds.
Paul 2 points, 3 assists.

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 08:42 PM
I swear to ****ing god, this is not Peja. The Peja I know is usually in the fetal position during this time of year. The dude has been bombing 3's like Nato.

RoseCity07
04-25-2008, 08:45 PM
Mavericks are garbage. The Hornets are a much better team.

bettalaylow
04-25-2008, 08:51 PM
What the hell is there anybody I mean anybody on the Mavs roster who can hit an open jump shot? Stackhouse, Terry, Howard, all are complete brick layers. If they lose this series the Mavs should revamp the entire supporting cast because these guys are total garbage.

Sicknote
04-25-2008, 08:55 PM
J Kidd himself shooting 26% this season. (w/ the Mavs)

Laker4Lyfe
04-25-2008, 08:57 PM
If the Mavs don't win this game,they should get the fishing rods ready.No team has ever won a series after they went down 3-0.

http://www.nba.com/media/playoffs2007/fishin07_mavericks_600.jpg

Phoenix did last year. :cry:

benJAMin
04-25-2008, 09:01 PM
great pass from CP to find Wells underneath:bowdown:

juju151111
04-25-2008, 09:07 PM
Come on honets don't let the crowd affect u.Play ur gm.Mavs are not that good.

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 09:10 PM
J Kidd himself shooting 26% this season. (w/ the Mavs)

:no:
Jason Kidd shot 0.426% with the Mavericks, 0,381% threes!

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 09:13 PM
Halftime, the Mavericks still 7 up, after trailing midway the 2nd quarter.

Dirk 13 points, 9 rebounds.
Paul 6 points, 5 assists.
Kidd 8 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists.

Sicknote
04-25-2008, 09:14 PM
:no:
Jason Kidd shot 0.426% with the Mavericks, 0,381% threes!

My fault, I just repeated what I heard during the game from whoevers commentating. Sorry for the misinformation. :hammerhead:

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 09:18 PM
Interesting: The Hornets made their little run while Dirk and Paul were sitting on the bench.

Dirk is +17, while Paul is -14.

KokeAyne
04-25-2008, 09:24 PM
Phoenix did last year. :cry:

What? NO they didnt.

Its true no team has ever come back after 3-0

Hawker
04-25-2008, 09:26 PM
David West is such a bytch...damn.

Hawker
04-25-2008, 09:36 PM
We're doing bad at the FT line. NEed to fix that shiz.

benJAMin
04-25-2008, 09:36 PM
Damn, Chandler!

Put Back Dunk
04-25-2008, 09:42 PM
David West is such a bytch...damn.

Even the commentators were like "what's he complaining about?" :oldlol:

Someone mentioned in a thread a week or so ago that he never used to b!tch about every call before CP3 became the leader of the team.

DuMa
04-25-2008, 09:43 PM
i know you got hit in the face dirk but you dont have to completely fall to the ground everytime you get hit

damn dirk.

konex
04-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Mavs are blowing this game at the ft line...

bisk
04-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Ah yea, what ever happened to Olowokandi lol

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 09:46 PM
Has Paul hit a 3 in this series?

bisk
04-25-2008, 09:47 PM
Has Paul hit a 3 in this series?

yea this game

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 09:49 PM
yea this game

:hammerhead:

I missed that one.

BTW, I love Dirk's aggressiveness on the boards.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 09:49 PM
Anyone else going to mention the elephant in the room during the game? *cough* refs *cough*

21-11 in fouls.

Hawker
04-25-2008, 09:50 PM
Anyone else going to mention the elephant in the room during the game? *cough* refs *cough*

21-11 in fouls.

Have you even been watching the game?

Kiddlovesnets
04-25-2008, 09:52 PM
Welcome back to the earth, CP3!
:cheers:

RoseCity07
04-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Mavs are ahead but get no production from their bench. What's going to happen when their starters get worn down? Hornets can still win this.

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 09:55 PM
Mavs are ahead but get no production from their bench. What's going to happen when their starters get worn down? Hornets can still win this.

No doubt.

And what the **** is up with Josh Howard? Has he been high this whole series?

konex
04-25-2008, 09:58 PM
Pargo torching Kidd tonight. If Avery does any stupid mass subs, Mavs will lose this game..

macatak911
04-25-2008, 09:58 PM
Have you even been watching the game?

Yes I have. BS touch fouls are getting called on the Hornets while Mavs can maul Dwest/CP3 and get away with it. I know CP3 and DWest arent hot tonight but still.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 09:58 PM
Mavs are ahead but get no production from their bench. What's going to happen when their starters get worn down? Hornets can still win this.


Jerry Stackhouse may be right calling out Scott as a coattail rider but he has been a big fat bag of sh!t this series.

benJAMin
04-25-2008, 09:59 PM
"Byron Scott, did you stick your head in the Shine-o Ball-o?"

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 10:00 PM
Yes I have. BS touch fouls are getting called on the Hornets while Mavs can maul Dwest/CP3 and get away with it. I know CP3 and DWest arent hot tonight but still.

You must of missed the layup where Chris Paul elbowed his defender.

konex
04-25-2008, 10:02 PM
How did Hilton Armstrong get so bad? This guy was decent in college...

Hawker
04-25-2008, 10:05 PM
Pargo being random...

konex
04-25-2008, 10:05 PM
Hey Jason, make a layup...

RoseCity07
04-25-2008, 10:05 PM
Kidd traveled under the hoop right there.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 10:07 PM
You must of missed the layup where Chris Paul elbowed his defender.

Did you miss the one where Dirk just compelety ran over a Hornet? Even Tirico was calling for a foul! 23-12 now in fouls.

RoseCity07
04-25-2008, 10:11 PM
Judging from tonight, David West is a dumb basketball player.

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 10:11 PM
Did you miss the one where Dirk just compelety ran over a Hornet? Even Tirico was calling for a foul! 23-12 now in fouls.

Mavs have had the FT advantage so far in this series. What do you expect, Mavs attack the basket more.

konex
04-25-2008, 10:13 PM
I'd take Dirk on my team anyday, man...

macatak911
04-25-2008, 10:13 PM
Mavs have had the FT advantage so far in this series. What do you expect, Mavs attack the basket more.

Kinda like how just now Dirk rams into a standing still, outside restricted area CP3?

Younggrease
04-25-2008, 10:14 PM
Look at CP3's demeanor..Thats the thing that seperates him from the top top guys in the league, and its not just tonight. Everytime he is shooting bad he curls up like a puppy dog and plays timid and scared, other top guys just keep coming at you no matter what.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 10:14 PM
Did you miss the one where Dirk just compelety ran over a Hornet? Even Tirico was calling for a foul! 23-12 now in fouls.


the Hornets shoot fewer FTs in the L than any other team. This is no surprise they arent getting to the line as much as the Mavs.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 10:15 PM
Kinda like how just now Dirk rams into a standing still, outside restricted area CP3?


BS. he wasnt standing still. i rewound it on my DVR to check it out. He was sliding and then leaned into Dirk. It was his own fault.

Sicknote
04-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Devin Harris just said 'obviously' about 25-30 times. And I love how he didn't deny he didn't use it either, kinda suspicious since they're boys. :oldlol:

Kiddlovesnets
04-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Wow, 5 fouls on CP3.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Lisa Salters trying to get Harris and Howard into a fight with eachother. that was really Jim Grey like.

Harris came outta that interview as a stand up guy IMO.

RoseCity07
04-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Mavs seem to get bailed out on every call. The refs need to swallow their whistles and stop making it so easy, or at least call it both ways.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 10:18 PM
the Hornets shoot fewer FTs in the L than any other team. This is no surprise they arent getting to the line as much as the Mavs.

I'm not talking about FT's. I'm talking about FOULS.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 10:20 PM
I'm not talking about FT's. I'm talking about FOULS.

they dont get calls b/c they are not aggressive enough on O. too many jumpers.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 10:21 PM
they dont get calls b/c they are not aggressive enough on O. too many jumpers.

DWest just got raped by 3 Dallas defenders and no call.

konex
04-25-2008, 10:21 PM
Refs suddenly not calling anything for the Mavs at the rim. Better stay home on Peja..

RoseCity07
04-25-2008, 10:22 PM
Hornets keeping this game interesting. Will the Mavs choke? If there was more time certainly, but under 3 minutes, I don't think they will blow it.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:22 PM
they dont get calls b/c they are not aggressive enough on O. too many jumpers.
pargo goes to the basket alot and wasn't getting any calls.WTH they lucky paul is not playing good.next game he will play great.

Kiddlovesnets
04-25-2008, 10:22 PM
Mavs choking...

Sicknote
04-25-2008, 10:25 PM
Jetttt!

Sicknote
04-25-2008, 10:26 PM
Nowitzki.. BANG! A lot of emotion in the arena right now.

ihatetimthomas
04-25-2008, 10:26 PM
Dirk=Fire

Hawker
04-25-2008, 10:26 PM
Mavs choking...

Get your eyes checked...

ihatetimthomas
04-25-2008, 10:27 PM
Getting crazy

Younggrease
04-25-2008, 10:28 PM
Good foul Dampier...CP3 just checked Terry and stared at him, way to stick up for your teammate

MarloStanfield
04-25-2008, 10:28 PM
Chris Paul would whoop Dampier

Kiddlovesnets
04-25-2008, 10:28 PM
Congratulations to Kidd's first play-off win in Dallas!!!

:party:

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:28 PM
One of the things that turn me off from Paul. Too goddamn hot headed. If the game isn't going his way, he wants to fight. Anyone remember his infamous meatcheck in college?

ALBballer
04-25-2008, 10:28 PM
Dirk

30/15/6

2 BS and only 2 TO

ihatetimthomas
04-25-2008, 10:28 PM
This series is getting good, cant wait for game 4

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:29 PM
dampier is a *****hhhhh

kentatm
04-25-2008, 10:29 PM
it looked like he was gonna foul him hard and kinda lost his balance in the process making it seem worse.

Sicknote
04-25-2008, 10:29 PM
One swing from Dampier would've layed Paul out for the series. :lol

Kiddlovesnets
04-25-2008, 10:29 PM
Get your eyes checked...

They do blow a 17 pts lead to 7 at one time. So good they managed to seal the win and now the series would be more interesting to watch!
:cheers:

MarloStanfield
04-25-2008, 10:30 PM
Paul is a fierce competitor. Dude leaves it all out on the court. Playing in a hostile environment versus a veteran team.

DuMa
04-25-2008, 10:30 PM
thats pretty sad dampier has to commit a flagrant foul to stop chris paul from scoring.

mongePR(kb24)
04-25-2008, 10:30 PM
i hate people like dampier... what was the need ? uneducated thug man..

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:31 PM
One of the things that turn me off from Paul. Too goddamn hot headed. If the game isn't going his way, he wants to fight. Anyone remember his infamous meatcheck in college?
Dampier pushed him.He is 5'11.I would want to fight too.He could of easily blked him.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 10:32 PM
One of the things that turn me off from Paul. Too goddamn hot headed. If the game isn't going his way, he wants to fight. Anyone remember his infamous meatcheck in college?

a) He just got shoved by Dampier

b) His defender insulted his recently deceased grandfather. I'd do the same thing.

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:32 PM
thats pretty sad dampier has to commit a flagrant foul to stop chris paul from scoring.


I personally thought it was a reaction to the play prior to that when Terry went for the steal and a foul was called right before Paul pushed him out of frustration:confusedshrug:

Kiddlovesnets
04-25-2008, 10:32 PM
Dirk

30/15/6

2 BS and only 2 TO

Dirk need to continue playing like this if the Mavs want to win this series.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 10:32 PM
thats pretty sad dampier has to commit a flagrant foul to stop chris paul from scoring.


yes, he was really worried about 2 points with a 12 point lead and 27 seconds left. that was a message foul. i just dont think he meant it to be a push like that. i think he lost his balance a little. still, he was gonna foul his ass hard and there is nothing wrong with that. especially with all those little elbows Paul likes to fling down low.

Younggrease
04-25-2008, 10:32 PM
i hate people like dampier... what was the need ? uneducated thug man..

did you just see CP3 run over Terry(he dropped his shoulder and trucked him), then turned back and stared at him?

ForceOfNature
04-25-2008, 10:33 PM
Wow, Tyson Chandler's a punk. He pushes Dirk around (because he won't fight back) but then is scared when the big fella Erick Dampier is yelling in his face. And yeah, Paul is starting to annoy me just slightly, because of his dirty play.

grimreaper1377
04-25-2008, 10:33 PM
I love the Dirk interview

Dirk: "Our defense was there, it was great early. We only gave up"
-looks up at scoreboard-
"87 points"

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:33 PM
a) He just got shoved by Dampier

b) His defender insulted his recently deceased grandfather. I'd do the same thing.


Not much I can say about that. But overall I think CP is a bit too hotheaded when the game isn't going his way. Just IMHO.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:33 PM
They will get butt****ed next gm.West had like 10 open jumpers on the pick and roll and Paul was playing scared.This won't happen next gm.I sorry for dallas fans tho.

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:34 PM
did you just see CP3 run over Terry(he dropped his shoulder and trucked him), then turned back and stared at him?

Exactly. Like I said, I think the Dampier foul was a retaliation to that.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:35 PM
did you just see CP3 run over Terry(he dropped his shoulder and trucked him), then turned back and stared at him?
They were going for the ball.They freaking talked about his dead grandpa??.**** the mavs.Trying to get him off his gm by saying **** like that.

grimreaper1377
04-25-2008, 10:36 PM
did you just see CP3 run over Terry(he dropped his shoulder and trucked him), then turned back and stared at him?

I know, that was a dirty play on Chris Paul, not Jason Terry.

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:36 PM
They were going for the ball.They freaking talked about his dead grandpa.**** the mavs.Trying to get him off his gm by saying **** like that.


What excatly was said about his grandfather?

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:36 PM
Exactly. Like I said, I think the Dampier foul was a retaliation to that.
Dampier is 7ft.Go pick on chandler.

plat1numX
04-25-2008, 10:36 PM
paul was having a bad game and eric said **** that no stat padding in my arena

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:37 PM
What excatly was said about his grandfather?
It doesn't matter wat he saad just mentioning his grandpa is disrepectful.

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 10:37 PM
Dirk is the man: 32/19/6 :bowdown:

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:38 PM
Dampier is 7ft.Go pick on chandler.


This isn't the school yard in grade school No one cares how tall you are in the NBA Playoffs If Paul can shove/push, he can get pushed. This is the NBA, not a City League Basketball League. That argument loses merit the minute you set foot on an NBA Court.

MarloStanfield
04-25-2008, 10:38 PM
Dampier is soft and has a glass chin

Showtime
04-25-2008, 10:40 PM
Dallas finally played smart defense.

Instead of chasing Paul all over the court with a double team, they layed off and played under the screens to deny penetration, and that forced Paul to either take the outside shot, or dump off to West or the wing. The problem with that was that West went cold. When his shot isn't falling, then Paul's options are limited. Peja was hitting shots, but they didn't look for him enough. IMO, there's no excuse for West and Paul's game tonight. They must make better decisions and execute by making their shots, and Paul made bad choices once he did make it into the lane.

Dallas gave the hornets a piece of their own medicine. When NO's shot wasn't falling, they were out rebounded (-9), which is the opposite of the first two games. That give Dallas the opportunity to push the ball on the break, and that leads to transition baskets, or FT's (13 v 38 FT disparity). Dallas attacked, and reaped the benefits.

The other thing that bothered me about this game was the officiating. It was too inconsistent.

With the poor game by the hornets, they kept this game close until the final minutes. That's a big problem for Dallas. CP and West, the two best offensive weapons, were a combined 8-30 (27%). Their bench didn't show up, with the exception of Pargo. TC was in foul trouble early. The refs were inconsistent. All of this was the perfect opportunity for Dallas to take a game, and they did. Terry was big in this game, and I was afraid of him getting into this series.

Dirk just reinforced my opinion of him. He was fouled on a jumpshot by West who hit him on the wrist, and Dirk falls backwards on his ass. This happened later in the game too. Dirk hits the floor more than his own shoes. He is the biggest pu$$y over seven feet since Shawn Bradley.

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 10:42 PM
Dallas finally played smart defense.

Instead of chasing Paul all over the court with a double team, they layed off and played under the screens to deny penetration, and that forced Paul to either take the outside shot, or dump off to West or the wing. The problem with that was that West went cold. When his shot isn't falling, then Paul's options are limited. Peja was hitting shots, but they didn't look for him enough. IMO, there's no excuse for West and Paul's game tonight. They must make better decisions and execute by making their shots, and Paul made bad choices once he did make it into the lane.

Dallas gave the hornets a piece of their own medicine. When NO's shot wasn't falling, they were out rebounded (-9), which is the opposite of the first two games. That give Dallas the opportunity to push the ball on the break, and that leads to transition baskets, or FT's (13 v 38 FT disparity). Dallas attacked, and reaped the benefits.

The other thing that bothered me about this game was the officiating. It was too inconsistent.

With the poor game by the hornets, they kept this game close until the final minutes. That's a big problem for Dallas. CP and West, the two best offensive weapons, were a combined 8-30 (27%). Their bench didn't show up, with the exception of Pargo. TC was in foul trouble early. The refs were inconsistent. All of this was the perfect opportunity for Dallas to take a game, and they did. Terry was big in this game, and I was afraid of him getting into this series.

Dirk just reinforced my opinion of him. He was fouled on a jumpshot by West who hit him on the wrist, and Dirk falls backwards on his ass. This happened later in the game too. Dirk hits the floor more than his own shoes. He is the biggest pu$$y over seven feet since Shawn Bradley.

A very agressive pu$$y at the boards tonight :D

MarloStanfield
04-25-2008, 10:43 PM
The Refs were horrible.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:43 PM
Wow, Tyson Chandler's a punk. He pushes Dirk around (because he won't fight back) but then is scared when the big fella Erick Dampier is yelling in his face. And yeah, Paul is starting to annoy me just slightly, because of his dirty play.
Chandler was pushing dampier how was he scared???He was protecting his player because dampier tried to take him out of the gm.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 10:44 PM
12/01 Mavs +6 in fouls
12/14 Hornets +2 in fouls
2/20 Mavs +1 in fouls
4/16 Hornets +4 in fouls

Game 1 Hornets +2 in fouls
Game 2 Mavs +3 in fouls
Game 3 Hornets +11 in fouls

Looking these stats up just made me more confident the Hornets will win in 5.

Showtime
04-25-2008, 10:45 PM
Wow, Tyson Chandler's a punk. He pushes Dirk around (because he won't fight back) but then is scared when the big fella Erick Dampier is yelling in his face. And yeah, Paul is starting to annoy me just slightly, because of his dirty play.
How is TC scared when he ran right up to him after that Paul foul? If he was scared, he wouldn't have even approached him.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:46 PM
This isn't the school yard in grade school No one cares how tall you are in the NBA Playoffs If Paul can shove/push, he can get pushed. This is the NBA, not a City League Basketball League. That argument loses merit the minute you set foot on an NBA Court.
ur right he pushes a guy 5'11 to prove something.I would get shaq to beat his ass.LMAO "I am the 2nd best center in the league"LMFAO.

Showtime
04-25-2008, 10:47 PM
A very agressive pu$$y at the boards tonight :D
I think it was more bad positioning by the hornets than effort. Dallas did look more energetic when going after rebounds, but a lot of the time it was the hornets being boxed out better, and being in bad spots for the offensive boards. TC was also playing limited minutes in the first half when he's their biggest rebounder.

konex
04-25-2008, 10:47 PM
nt

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:47 PM
If the dallas fans count on CP3 to go 4-17 and west to miss about 10 open jumpers in gm4 they better start worrying.

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 10:48 PM
It doesn't matter wat he saad just mentioning his grandpa is disrepectful.

Dude, the Mavs didn't say anything about Paul's grandfather. Julius Hodge from NC State when Paul was in college said something and Chris Paul knocked him in the jewels for it. Quit getting all hot and bothered over the Mavs when you have no idea what happened.

Killer_Instinct
04-25-2008, 10:50 PM
ur right he pushes a guy 5'11 to prove something.I would get shaq to beat his ass.LMAO "I am the 2nd best center in the league"LMFAO.


:wtf: There was nothing to prove. Paul hit one of Dampiers teammates. Dampier responds. This happens at every level of every sport. You can hit, you can be hit. Just because Paul is smaller dosen't make him inept to getting his ass knocked to ground. You have a mentality that seems to have never developed to fit the sport you are watching. These are not little kids. These are grown ass men. Stop using his height as a crutch.

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 10:51 PM
If the dallas fans count on CP3 to go 4-17 and west to miss about 10 open jumpers in gm4 they better start worrying.

Dallas fans count on Dirk going 32/19/6 in game 4 again :D

MarloStanfield
04-25-2008, 10:53 PM
The Hornets also looked like they lacked the same amount of energy they played with in games 1 and 2.

gts
04-25-2008, 10:55 PM
hornets kinda choked under the pressure tonight.. they are young and it's gonna happen, happened in the last 6 games of the season too when the conference championship was on the line... mavs showed alot of poise, came in and got the job done, it's a whole new series now

Silverbullit
04-25-2008, 10:55 PM
The Hornets also looked like they lacked the same amount of energy they played with in games 1 and 2.

They will play much better in game 4!

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:56 PM
Dude, the Mavs didn't say anything about Paul's grandfather. Julius Hodge from NC State when Paul was in college said something and Chris Paul knocked him in the jewels for it. Quit getting all hot and bothered over the Mavs when you have no idea what happened.
yeah my fault about that.Thats why i put the question mark.

Showtime
04-25-2008, 10:57 PM
The Hornets also looked like they lacked the same amount of energy they played with in games 1 and 2.
This was another test for them. They haven't won a game in Dallas this season (or the past 10 years for that matter, but those were different times), and you have to remember this was their first road playoff game. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I think this team will come out Sunday with better execution.

Imagine if Deron Williams was on the Mavs. Paul wouldn't even record a basket or an assist for the rest of his career in Dallas.

crisoner
04-25-2008, 10:57 PM
WOW....the Mavs grew some b@lls.

Good for them!

juju151111
04-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Dallas fans count on Dirk going 32/19/6 in game 4 again :D
LOL they barkley won when dirk went that.The hornets were still in the gm with Paul and West playing like ****.West miss like 10 wide open jumpers when he is normally alwats make that shot.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:00 PM
This was another test for them. They haven't won a game in Dallas this season (or the past 10 years for that matter, but those were different times), and you have to remember this was their first road playoff game. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I think this team will come out Sunday with better execution.

Imagine if Deron Williams was on the Mavs. Paul wouldn't even record a basket or an assist for the rest of his career in Dallas.
??????LOL u are on some crack.

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:01 PM
Dallas fans count on Dirk going 32/19/6 in game 4 again :D

I find it hilarious how Dirk balls in NO and everyone says "I don't care what his stats are, he's a pansy and they lost". Then he balls and they get the win at home and all I see is "the Mavs are in trouble and Dirk only had 19 boards because the Hornets didn't get good position...they won't win because they're all pansies." He gets 0 props no matter what he does. He's having a terrific series and the hate is insane.

The main difference between the two previous games and this game was different defensive adjustments and Jet showed up to play. Dirk's been doing his thing all series and noone recognizes or cares to recognize.

And about Dirk falling on the jumpshot...I have seen Lebron, Wade, Nash, Melo, Ginobli, Parker, and Kobe pull the same move. Call it a flop because it is, but don't act like Dirk is the only one in the NBA that does it.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 11:01 PM
12/01 Mavs +6 in fouls
12/14 Hornets +2 in fouls
2/20 Mavs +1 in fouls
4/16 Hornets +4 in fouls

Game 1 Hornets +2 in fouls
Game 2 Mavs +3 in fouls
Game 3 Hornets +11 in fouls

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:04 PM
12/01 Mavs +6 in fouls
12/14 Hornets +2 in fouls
2/20 Mavs +1 in fouls
4/16 Hornets +4 in fouls

Game 1 Hornets +2 in fouls
Game 2 Mavs +3 in fouls
Game 3 Hornets +11 in fouls

Oh I get it...it's the ref's fault. So the same thing that everyone bashes the Mavs for gets used against them...

Can't say that makes much sense.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:05 PM
I find it hilarious how Dirk balls in NO and everyone says "I don't care what his stats are, he's a pansy and they lost". Then he balls and they get the win at home and all I see is "the Mavs are in trouble and Dirk only had 19 boards because the Hornets didn't get good position...they won't win because they're all pansies." He gets 0 props no matter what he does. He's having a terrific series and the hate is insane.

The main difference between the two previous games and this game was different defensive adjustments and Jet showed up to play. Dirk's been doing his thing all series and noone recognizes or cares to recognize.

And about Dirk falling on the jumpshot...I have seen Lebron, Wade, Nash, Melo, Ginobli, Parker, and Kobe pull the same move. Call it a flop because it is, but don't act like Dirk is the only one in the NBA that does it.


:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

macatak911
04-25-2008, 11:07 PM
Oh I get it...it's the ref's fault. So the same thing that everyone bashes the Mavs for gets used against them...

Can't say that makes much sense.

Do you honestly believe the refs called the game the SAME WAY on BOTH ENDS of the court?

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:11 PM
Do you honestly believe the refs called the game the SAME WAY on BOTH ENDS of the court?


please. stop crying about the refs. Mavs fans have never been allowed to do this.

Kings fans were never allowed when they were getting royally screwed against the Lakers. The Suns fans weren't vs the Spurs last year. Anyone getting elbowed in the head by Shaq or even Karl Malone was never allowed to cry about it.

So guess what, you arent either. the Mavs set the tone for the night so they got the calls. maybe if your boys had come out more aggressive it would have been different. BTW, by your logic the Mavs should have won game 1.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 11:13 PM
please. stop crying about the refs. Mavs fans have never been allowed to do this.

Kings fans were never allowed when they were getting royally screwed against the Lakers. The Suns fans weren't vs the Spurs last year. Anyone getting elbowed in the head by Shaq or even Karl Malone was never allowed to cry about it.

So guess what, you arent either. the Mavs set the tone for the night so they got the calls. maybe if your boys had come out more aggressive it would have been different. BTW, by your logic the Mavs should have won game 1.

You never answered my question.

+11 is different than +2

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Do you honestly believe the refs called the game the SAME WAY on BOTH ENDS of the court?

I honestly think that the Mavs were at home and got the benefit of some calls, but to call the refs out is a bs move. Had West hit his open jumpers the refs wouldn't have been a factor anyways. I'm pretty sure back when the Mavs lost in the finals, you'd be saying the same thing against them when Mavs fans were claiming the refs were biased. They actually had a legit case back then and everyone still jumped on them for suggesting the refs were calling a bad game.

This team is damned if they do, damned if they don't around here. There is literally nothing the Mavericks can do at this point to get respect from anyone on this board. They're not even my team and I feel the need to back them up against some of the crap I'm reading in this thread.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:14 PM
Oh I get it...it's the ref's fault. So the same thing that everyone bashes the Mavs for gets used against them...

Can't say that makes much sense.
Pargo was getting hacked alot today while Josh howard was getting calls and Dirk the flopper got alot of calls for falling.I wonder wat players floppers will do next year when stern puts in the rule for floppers.LMFAO ak,manu, and okur will be crying like babies.Almost all players flop sometime, but those guy do it wayy too much and make it look like an art.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:15 PM
You never answered my question.

+11 is different than +2


ive told you twice now, the Mavs came out more aggressive on offense and got NO in foul trouble by taking it to the rim a ton more. what about this do you not get?

MarloStanfield
04-25-2008, 11:16 PM
Pargo was getting hacked alot today while Josh howard was getting calls and Dirk the flopper got alot of calls for falling.I wonder wat players floppers will do next year when stern puts in the rule for floppers.LMFAO ak,manu, and okur will be crying like babies.Almost all players flop sometime, but those guy do it wayy too much and make it look like an art.
Agreed - Except we won't be seeing many white or euro players any longer...

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:17 PM
This team is damned if they do, damned if they don't around here. There is literally nothing the Mavericks can do at this point to get respect from anyone on this board. They're not even my team and I feel the need to back them up against some of the crap I'm reading in this thread.

pretty much. Dirk is stuck there too. It really doesnt matter at this point what they do. They could win the title and people would rip them for only having one and say if they dont repeat its clearly a fluke.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 11:18 PM
ive told you twice now, the Mavs came out more aggressive on offense and got NO in foul trouble by taking it to the rim a ton more. what about this do you not get?

Its a simple yes or no question.

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:18 PM
Pargo was getting hacked alot today while Josh howard was getting calls and Dirk the flopper got alot of calls for falling.I wonder wat players floppers will do next year when stern puts in the rule for floppers.LMFAO ak,manu, and okur will be crying like babies.Almost all players flop sometime, but those guy do it wayy too much and make it look like an art.

There's no way they can install a flopping rule...it's just way too subjective. I'd be all for it because then Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Manu, Parker, Okur, Varejao, Dirk, etc. would be forced to stop the bs, but there's just no realistic way that that can be enforced. It won't happen.

What they should do is crack down on all the crying after the foul call because it's gotten to levels that I've never seen before. Every single call leads to an entire team getting heated about it. Noone respects the refs anymore.

And I've never seen anyone back Pargo, a roleplaying jumpshooter who was practically out of the league 2 years ago, for not getting calls. You are a pioneer, sir.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:21 PM
Its a simple yes or no question.

yes you baby. the team that comes out more aggressive ALWAYS gets more calls. thats how it is. both teams have the chance to influence the game equally and Dallas did a better job. stop your *****ing.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:21 PM
I honestly think that the Mavs were at home and got the benefit of some calls, but to call the refs out is a bs move. Had West hit his open jumpers the refs wouldn't have been a factor anyways. I'm pretty sure back when the Mavs lost in the finals, you'd be saying the same thing against them when Mavs fans were claiming the refs were biased. They actually had a legit case back then and everyone still jumped on them for suggesting the refs were calling a bad game.

This team is damned if they do, damned if they don't around here. There is literally nothing the Mavericks can do at this point to get respect from anyone on this board. They're not even my team and I feel the need to back them up against some of the crap I'm reading in this thread.
LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.

macatak911
04-25-2008, 11:23 PM
yes you baby. the team that comes out more aggressive ALWAYS gets more calls. thats how it is. both teams have the chance to influence the game equally and Dallas did a better job. stop your *****ing.

Your explanation goes against your answer. A touch foul on one end should be called the exact same way on the other end. **** I don't even think the Mavs were in the penalty the enitre game. When's the last time you saw that?

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:23 PM
There's no way they can install a flopping rule...it's just way too subjective. I'd be all for it because then Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Manu, Parker, Okur, Varejao, Dirk, etc. would be forced to stop the bs, but there's just no realistic way that that can be enforced. It won't happen.

What they should do is crack down on all the crying after the foul call because it's gotten to levels that I've never seen before. Every single call leads to an entire team getting heated about it. Noone respects the refs anymore.

And I've never seen anyone back Pargo, a roleplaying jumpshooter who was practically out of the league 2 years ago, for not getting calls. You are a pioneer, sir.
Who cares if he is a role player?/When he drived they were hacking him.Simple i don't give a crap.Just because he doesn't flop and fall like dirk means he didn't get foul?

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

hypocrite baby. you just owned yourself.:roll:

iggy>
04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.
enuff of your cryin. yes there was a couple questionable calls in that finals but overall it was a fair series. the heat just took dallas' heart on both ends of the floor. wade offensively and mourning defensively.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:25 PM
Your explanation goes against your answer. A touch foul on one end should be called the exact same way on the other end. **** I don't even think the Mavs were in the penalty the enitre game. When's the last time you saw that?
I agree and how was pargo not getting calls in the 4th on those pentrations while dirk flops all day long and get everything.

kentatm
04-25-2008, 11:25 PM
Your explanation goes against your answer. A touch foul on one end should be called the exact same way on the other end. **** I don't even think the Mavs were in the penalty the enitre game. When's the last time you saw that?


ohh now its the touch fouls that were getting called wrong? take off your green glasses.

the Mavs werent getting into the penalty B/C NO DOES NOT GO TO THE HOOP ENOUGH.

jesus. im done with you and your thick skull.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:26 PM
enuff of your cryin. yes there was a couple questionable calls in that finals but overall it was a fair series. the heat just took dallas' heart on both ends of the floor. wade offensively and mourning defensively.
WTH i am saying it was a fair series.U just agreed with me.LOL

macatak911
04-25-2008, 11:28 PM
ohh now its the touch fouls that were getting called wrong? take off your green glasses.

the Mavs werent getting into the penalty B/C NO DOES NOT GO TO THE HOOP ENOUGH.

jesus. im done with you and your thick skull.

Every other game between Dallas and NOLA this season Dallas has had 20+ fouls.

And I've said from the beginning of my posting no touch fouls were called on dallas yet they were called on nola

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:28 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

hypocrite baby. you just owned yourself.:roll:
How????The refs called a fair gm.They couldn't stop him.I also remember(I think it was gm4) where josh howard said he couldn't shoot and he destroyed him with jumpers.

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:29 PM
LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.

You're kidding me right? You really want to bring Youtube into this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lX_qMS9bRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuukM40T974&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydhtOSlfW0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZKGlHfukc4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8nI1PPYOk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aySGUzzxjGE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZyD3Zjuxvw&feature=related

I'm not going to get in a ref discussion about the Mavs/Heat because then I'd be doing exactly what you're doing...crying about the refs. I will say that the evidence is there, though.

NY Comeback
04-25-2008, 11:32 PM
Horrible officiated game in favor of the Mavs. This is the one game that they're supposed to win. I see the Hornets bouncing back, and taking this series in 5.

And what the hell was with Ericka Dampier? Pushed Paul around, but when Chandler got in his face he didn't do shit. :oldlol:

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:33 PM
Who cares if he is a role player?/When he drived they were hacking him.Simple i don't give a crap.Just because he doesn't flop and fall like dirk means he didn't get foul?

Same reason Roger Mason gets no calls in the Wizards series when he's getting hammered. The refs are notorious for star bias. Seriously, if you're upset over a no-call on Pargo and that's why you think they lost the game, you're more dense than I thought. Maybe West shooting crap from the field was why they lost. I guess the refs made him miss open J's all night too?

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:35 PM
Just for the record, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mavs lose in 6 because it looks like their window is closing. They're still a good team though and have never gotten respect. I actually think Chris Paul is the MVP and the best PG in the NBA and have watched the Hornets all season. I don't care if the Mavs lose, but I just find it funny that the hypocrisy in this thread isn't getting called out by anyone.

iggy>
04-25-2008, 11:38 PM
WTH i am saying it was a fair series.U just agreed with me.LOL
o my bad, well then that statement goes to whoever u were talkin to.

Darius
04-25-2008, 11:42 PM
Nice win by the mavs.

That was the 06 Mavs for a little bit there.

Terry is really the key to the team and needs to start over Stack. I think Terry has gotten a major free pass for his play this year - hopefully he continues with the standard he set 2nite.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:43 PM
You're kidding me right? You really want to bring Youtube into this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lX_qMS9bRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuukM40T974&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydhtOSlfW0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZKGlHfukc4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8nI1PPYOk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aySGUzzxjGE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZyD3Zjuxvw&feature=related

I'm not going to get in a ref discussion about the Mavs/Heat because then I'd be doing exactly what you're doing...crying about the refs. I will say that the evidence is there, though.
Ok let LMAO u show me 7 vids like he only took that many FTs.Ok let me look through it.The first vid shows a flop.The 2nd vid shows a clear foul caused by his agressiveness and he got cantact.(If u watch the nba now they always call that foul.)3rd vid He smacked his hand i think.I can tell from that choppy vid but u could see why the refs would think he fouled him.4th vid was a clear bad call.5th vid dirk bumed himLook at dirk left hand reaching.Last vid makes no sense.Thats just a gm of kobe not getting any calls.

Darius
04-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Additional Note:

Why do people still whine about refs on this board?

Is it b/c of all these new people? I assume so since I am still seeing "who was better Malone or Barkley?" threads.

juju151111
04-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Same reason Roger Mason gets no calls in the Wizards series when he's getting hammered. The refs are notorious for star bias. Seriously, if you're upset over a no-call on Pargo and that's why you think they lost the game, you're more dense than I thought. Maybe West shooting crap from the field was why they lost. I guess the refs made him miss open J's all night too?
Go back two pages and u would see thats the main reason i put for them losing.west never misses that much wide open shots.

ACCBaller1403
04-25-2008, 11:49 PM
Ok let LMAO u show me 7 vids like he only took that many FTs.Ok let me look through it.The first vid shows a flop.The 2nd vid shows a clear foul caused by his agressiveness and he got cantact.(If u watch the nba now they always call that foul.)3rd vid He smacked his hand i think.I can tell from that choppy vid but u could see why the refs would think he fouled him.4th vid was a clear bad call.5th vid dirk bumed himLook at dirk left hand reaching.Last vid makes no sense.Thats just a gm of kobe not getting any calls.

Yeah my fault on that last vid...I thought I pasted another one. Anyways, like I said, just some evidence. Point is, any team that whines about the refs ends up getting roasted like the Mavs did that season. Look at the Kings when they lost to the Lakers. Look at the Wizards when they lost to the Cavs 2 years ago.

Everyone cries about the refs but rarely if ever do the refs really have so much control over the game where a couple open shots made wouldn't cover that. Again, if DWest had hit some more of his wide open jumpers and not gone 6-20, the Hornets could've pulled out the victory. I would think the Hornets locker room is probably kicking themselves over missing those opportunities than blaming the refs. Fans need something to cling to though, I guess. Kblaze had a great post a while back on how little effect the refs actually have on games. I'll see if I can dig it up, but it really opened my eyes on the whole ref subject.

Showtime
04-25-2008, 11:54 PM
I find it hilarious how Dirk balls in NO and everyone says "I don't care what his stats are, he's a pansy and they lost". Then he balls and they get the win at home and all I see is "the Mavs are in trouble and Dirk only had 19 boards because the Hornets didn't get good position...they won't win because they're all pansies." He gets 0 props no matter what he does. He's having a terrific series and the hate is insane.

Was he supposed to get props for taking 11 shots in game 2? Seriously, we all know Dirk can score. He's built a career out of scoring the ball. It's how he plays that gets criticized, and it's legit. When a team leader and franchise player takes 11 shots in a game when his team is down, he's going to take heat.

Oh, and when did anybody say Dirk had a bad game? You say the hate is insane. Aside from calling Dirk soft (which he is), where is the hate? He's a perimeter oriented 7 footer who lives by the jumpshot. Tonight, he scored 32 with over 50% shooting. Where is the hate you speak of? If a pu$$y scored 32, does that make him less of a pu$$y? No. Does that mean nobody can bring up how often Dirk hits the floor on weak contact? Is that hate? Get real.


The main difference between the two previous games and this game was different defensive adjustments and Jet showed up to play. Dirk's been doing his thing all series and noone recognizes or cares to recognize.

What are you talking about? Go back and look at the threads if they are still around. There was so much Dirk praise in the first two game threads.


And about Dirk falling on the jumpshot...I have seen Lebron, Wade, Nash, Melo, Ginobli, Parker, and Kobe pull the same move. Call it a flop because it is, but don't act like Dirk is the only one in the NBA that does it.

I haven't seen any of those players fall like Dirk falls. They may swing their bodies to get the refs attention (which is still a b!tch move), but Dirk fell BACKWARDS on his ass and slide a couple feet like he was shoved, and he got hit on the forearm. He's flopped all series long, from TC's push, to all night tonight. I've never seen a player of his size that falls after contact the way he does. Never.

juju151111
04-26-2008, 12:01 AM
Yeah my fault on that last vid...I thought I pasted another one. Anyways, like I said, just some evidence. Point is, any team that whines about the refs ends up getting roasted like the Mavs did that season. Look at the Kings when they lost to the Lakers. Look at the Wizards when they lost to the Cavs 2 years ago.

Everyone cries about the refs but rarely if ever do the refs really have so much control over the game where a couple open shots made wouldn't cover that. Again, if DWest had hit some more of his wide open jumpers and not gone 6-20, the Hornets could've pulled out the victory. I would think the Hornets locker room is probably kicking themselves over missing those opportunities than blaming the refs. Fans need something to cling to though, I guess. Kblaze had a great post a while back on how little effect the refs actually have on games. I'll see if I can dig it up, but it really opened my eyes on the whole ref subject.
Trust me refs can decide a gm.I have seen it alott.Sometimes u can't blame them because they are just human and can't see everything, but don't tell me refs don't decide gms.i have seen alot of calls on replays that showed otherwise.the thing is they don't get replays which we do.

Hawker
04-26-2008, 12:13 AM
Horrible officiated game in favor of the Mavs. This is the one game that they're supposed to win. I see the Hornets bouncing back, and taking this series in 5.

And what the hell was with Ericka Dampier? Pushed Paul around, but when Chandler got in his face he didn't do shit. :oldlol:

Chandler didnt do **** either.

Damp didnt back up. Chandler did. Where's your point again?

ACCBaller1403
04-26-2008, 12:17 AM
Trust me refs can decide a gm.I have seen it alott.Sometimes u can't blame them because they are just human and can't see everything, but don't tell me refs don't decide gms.i have seen alot of calls on replays that showed otherwise.the thing is they don't get replays which we do.

Trust me, if the Hornets attacked the hoop more this game they would have gotten the calls. Trust me, if David West were hitting his open J's then officiating wouldn't even be called into question because the Hornets would have won. Trust me, whining about the refs is something casual fans do. Same thing you're arguing against the Mavs in the finals applies here to this game. The team that attacks more and looks more active gets the calls.

But I don't think either of us are going to change each other's minds, and I'm heading out for the night. It's been real. Later.

And Showtime, I generally agree with you in your last post. My initial post wasn't an attack on you. Just a response to the thread as a whole. I've always thought Dirk was a flopper, but it's something that plagues the whole league, not just the Mavs.

juju151111
04-26-2008, 01:56 AM
Trust me, if the Hornets attacked the hoop more this game they would have gotten the calls. Trust me, if David West were hitting his open J's then officiating wouldn't even be called into question because the Hornets would have won. Trust me, whining about the refs is something casual fans do. Same thing you're arguing against the Mavs in the finals applies here to this game. The team that attacks more and looks more active gets the calls.

But I don't think either of us are going to change each other's minds, and I'm heading out for the night. It's been real. Later.

And Showtime, I generally agree with you in your last post. My initial post wasn't an attack on you. Just a response to the thread as a whole. I've always thought Dirk was a flopper, but it's something that
i never said that that the hornets played that agressive,but i have nba league pass and watched gms where the ref made the wrong call and give tecs out when the replay shows they were completly wrong.

Brunch@Five
04-26-2008, 03:17 PM
Oh, and when did anybody say Dirk had a bad game? You say the hate is insane. Aside from calling Dirk soft (which he is), where is the hate? He's a perimeter oriented 7 footer who lives by the jumpshot. Tonight, he scored 32 with over 50% shooting. Where is the hate you speak of? If a pu$$y scored 32, does that make him less of a pu$$y? No. Does that mean nobody can bring up how often Dirk hits the floor on weak contact? Is that hate? Get real.


A "pu$$y" doesn't get 19 rebounds in a playoff game against a frontline of Chandler and West. A "pu$$y" doesn't burn KG for 39/17 in one game and 33/16 for the series. A "pu$$y" doesn't drop 37/15 on Duncan's ass in game 7. A "pu$$y" doesn't average 12 rebounds per game for his career in the playoffs, up from 9 in the regular season.

Showtime
04-26-2008, 03:48 PM
A "pu$$y" doesn't get 19 rebounds in a playoff game against a frontline of Chandler and West. A "pu$$y" doesn't burn KG for 39/17 in one game and 33/16 for the series. A "pu$$y" doesn't drop 37/15 on Duncan's ass in game 7. A "pu$$y" doesn't average 12 rebounds per game for his career in the playoffs, up from 9 in the regular season.
When I called him that, it's obvious I mean he's soft, not that he can't rebound. Hell, AV is a great offensive rebounder, and he is the worst flopper in the league aside from Manu. A seven footer falling and overreacting to weak contact = pu$$y, and that's what I meant. The fact that he can bang and rebound when he wants to even proves my point further.

Brunch@Five
04-26-2008, 03:56 PM
When I called him that, it's obvious I mean he's soft, not that he can't rebound. Hell, AV is a great offensive rebounder, and he is the worst flopper in the league aside from Manu. A seven footer falling and overreacting to weak contact = pu$$y, and that's what I meant. The fact that he can bang and rebound when he wants to even proves my point further.

Someone who gets 19 rebounds in a playoff game isn't soft, nor a pu$$y. Falling down when being fouled has nothing to do with it. It means he doesn't have great balance and body control, like a Kobe or Bron. Everyone knows Dirk can't get far in the air. Doesn't make him a soft player.

brandonman
04-26-2008, 04:07 PM
Someone who gets 19 rebounds in a playoff game isn't soft, nor a pu$$y. Falling down when being fouled has nothing to do with it. It means he doesn't have great balance and body control, like a Kobe or Bron. Everyone knows Dirk can't get far in the air. Doesn't make him a soft player.


Dirk does stumble and fall a lot on minimal contact. Often he does flop and try to draw bs fouls. And what the hell is up with what he does to the basket ball after an opponent hits the 1st free throw. I understand he is trying to jinx the ball but he looks like an idiot when he does it. " Getting mad at the ball and slamming in on the floor " :wtf:

Showtime
04-26-2008, 04:57 PM
Someone who gets 19 rebounds in a playoff game isn't soft, nor a pu$$y. Falling down when being fouled has nothing to do with it. It means he doesn't have great balance and body control, like a Kobe or Bron. Everyone knows Dirk can't get far in the air. Doesn't make him a soft player.
Once again, how can a player his size bang inside and grab those 19 playoff boards you keep mentioning and then be throw about like a ragdoll with less contact? Like I said, you keep contradicting yourself. The fact that Dirk can bang inside when he wants to just proves how much of a ***** he is. Dirk is SOFT. Live with it. He is what he is.

Hawker
04-26-2008, 05:53 PM
Once again, how can a player his size bang inside and grab those 19 playoff boards you keep mentioning and then be throw about like a ragdoll with less contact? Like I said, you keep contradicting yourself. The fact that Dirk can bang inside when he wants to just proves how much of a ***** he is. Dirk is SOFT. Live with it. He is what he is.

Ummm...how does that make any sense?

Brunch@Five
04-26-2008, 11:49 PM
Ummm...how does that make any sense?

Nah, he's right, I'm the one who's contradiciting himself :rolleyes: