Why do ________ __________ tip so badly? [Archive] - Page 2 - Message Board Basketball Forum

-primetime-

06-01-2008, 02:56 PM

This thread is e-larious. So many fu*king e-diots in here. My goodness, never before have I read so much bullsh*t. Dumbfounding times 10.
I will say that alot of the posts in here are very frustrating to read...

the funny thing is that although I had heard of this steriotype before I have never given it any thought really and I have never noticed this with any of my black freinds...

after reading all this crap and basically finding out that there is much more thruth to it than I have ever thought it really upsets me....and I have never had a job waiting tables in my life...:(

I myself would feel horrible and embarassed stiffing a bill like that...and have never done it....all I can say is that I hope this frame of thinking goes away some time in the future...

Banks91

06-01-2008, 06:55 PM

-primetime-

06-01-2008, 07:02 PM

I don't believe waiters do all that bad. Like some one already mentioned, they

make decent per/hour if you calculate their tips that way. $3 an hour, if

they can do at least 5 tables for the hour, average of $20 bill for the table

they'll make what, 18+ an hour?. That's with a low average of $20per table,

which can be higher. Places where its $40 a table, they'll be making 25+an

hour. Not bad at all.
yeah...as long as people tip

also you have to understand that these people work shifts when there isn't ANYONE there...so they have to have busy nights to make up for it....

Banks91

06-01-2008, 07:17 PM

yeah...as long as people tip

also you have to understand that these people work shifts when there isn't ANYONE there...so they have to have busy nights to make up for it....

i understand, i'm sure some people don't, but there have to be people that over tip to even it all out. For the people that waiter, don't they usually make what they were looking to make when it's all said and done?

You don't have to you're 15% from everybody to make your total at the end.

howcanilose

06-01-2008, 07:18 PM

I dont kno if anyone mentioned this in the 17 pages before me but anyone ever seen Reservoir Dogs and they talked bout tipping?

some cursing but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ODhIFawfs

I think thats a convincing argument Steve Buschemi got there. I tip anyways though, couple bucks. I hate the automatic tipping some of these restaurants got though.

BrooklynZoo

06-01-2008, 07:53 PM

Her salary is the 2 dollars she signed up for. If someone tips her 10 dollars she has made 12 dollars in that hour, people with more important jobs often make less. I was being sarcastic on the white man deal, but the notion that tipping is BS still remains. Restaurant prices will rise only as high as the consumer allows. If the dining industries of other countries can function without tipping, and still be affordable ours can to.

it might be a flawed system in your eyes, but it is what it is. they arent getting paid unless the customers give them tips

-primetime-

06-01-2008, 08:00 PM

i understand, i'm sure some people don't, but there have to be people that over tip to even it all out. For the people that waiter, don't they usually make what they were looking to make when it's all said and done?

You don't have to you're 15% from everybody to make your total at the end.
maybe you are right but this is something that is proven to be a racial thing...

as a black person I would be pissed off at the fact that when I walk into a restaurant the waitress is going to try to aviod serving me because she knows there is a good chance I don't believe in the concept of tipping her...

and how pissed off would you be if spent a couple hours serving a table of 10 black people with a $200 tab just to get a lousy $5 !!!!!

F*cked up if you ask me...

and I don't give a damn if the waitress is a millionare....it is still f*cked up IMO...

she is slaveing over you and basically being your personal butler for the night....she needs to be shown some love...

DatZNasty

06-01-2008, 11:49 PM

:oldlol: at proven true. Like 4 black dudes posted in this thread and nobody outright said they never or don't tip.

ANd there are plenty of places that pay their waitress and waitors a regular wage and they still get tips, not to mention other jobs where they get paid a wage and are allowed to get tips, drivers or public transportation being one example, people who work at Supermarkets down here and come to bag your groceries and/or carry your stuff to your car for you get tips plus wages. In fact, at United Supermarkets, they literally put signs up saying not to tip their baggers and people who take groceries to your car. Carhops at drive ins down here like Sonic and Wayne's get a normal wage plus they get tips. How many people here tip their dry cleaner, seamstress too? Cab driver? Pizza and other food delivery drivers get a fair salary plus tips.

I wish IT personnel fell in the realm of subjectively decided upon customer service jobs where you can get paid extra for doing what is already in your job description.

kentatm

06-02-2008, 12:03 AM

I just don't understand why you would give someone extra money for doing what they are suppose to do and what they already get payed for.

they dont even make min wage. they make about half that and are supposed to work for the tips to cover everything else. In Texas they usually only make $2.15 an hour. You can't live off that without tips.

Hawker

02-25-2009, 05:19 PM

bump sauce...

PK3434

02-25-2009, 05:51 PM

funny thread

johndeeregreen

02-25-2009, 09:12 PM

Waiters make half the minimum wage and depend on 15% for a living wage.
"She don't make enough money, she can quit." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFUDbOldMs)

Gunnin4HoLeS

02-25-2009, 09:31 PM

Didnt read the whole thread but when I was working at McDonalds Suge Knight ( the real one) tipped me $10 .. When I started working at S Bux I cannot remember a black person tipping me.. wtf... this just dawned on me

Hawker

02-25-2009, 09:39 PM

hayden695

02-25-2009, 10:37 PM

i dont know about african americans since i live in alberta and there is like a total of four in the province, but i do knoiw that natives tip like ****, i would always get nothing from them when i would do a great job (my boss told me i was a great waiter lol).

halffttime

02-25-2009, 11:38 PM

hayden695

02-26-2009, 12:35 AM

lol alberta.. hows life up there? cant imagine living in the prairies :rolleyes:

it ****ing blows. and the last little while its been so cold that i couldnt even walk outside for 2 minutes to have a smoke without having to get all bundled up

Swagnificent

02-26-2009, 10:48 AM

People dont tip at mickey d's and starbucks the majority of the time.

It's rare people would tip at Starbucks, it's not like they actually do anything grandly special for you.

Who in the hell would tip at McDonalds? That's about as un-American as eating horse meat like the French do. The only tip I'd give at McDonalds is take that gawddamn Big & Tasty off your menu; most gawddamn awful burger, ever. I'm thinking about seeing if the Angry Whooper will kick his ass for me!

Rasheed1

02-26-2009, 10:48 AM

:roll: alot of the people on here (primetime) have to be waiters in real life..

all the outrage over tipping is strange...

I personally tip when Im satisfied with the service I receive... If my waiter is pleasant and my meal is prepared and served the way I expect it to be, you get your tip... :confusedshrug:

If you give an attitude and take all day and forget what I ask you to bring to table, well then your only tip will be advice......

I understand the industry, but Im like Dasher in that I wont be guilted into paying extra for lousy service... f*ck em if they dont like it... I didnt like my service enough to pay any more money out for it...

too many people think they deserve a tip when they havent earned it.

you want a tip? earn it...

bad attitude? f*ck you, no tip for you waiter boy...

Swagnificent

02-26-2009, 10:53 AM

LOL - Rasheed you're one of the best posters here... must respect for you, but your outlook on the whole tipping thing is immature and IMO just an excuse for you not having to tip.

Tipping in sit-in restaurants in the US is more than just commonplace, it's expected you tip even if you get average service. You may not tip upwards of 15-25%, but you get average service, you should tip no less than 10%.

It sounds to me like unless the waiter or waitress if licking your ass in the process of refilling your water you're not going to leave a single dime for their service to you.

I'll agree, if you get bad service you should tip very little if anything at all, but at the same time if you already have a mindset not to tip before you even sit down to eat, you shouldn't go to a sit-in restaurant.

Rasheed1

02-26-2009, 10:58 AM

LOL - Rasheed you're one of the best posters here... must respect for you, but your outlook on the whole tipping thing is immature and IMO just an excuse for you not having to tip.

I dont need an excuse not to tip :oldlol: ... Its my money...

you want a tip? act like you want it.....

you dont want a tip? act like you dont, then :confusedshrug: that simple

makes little difference to me... Im gonna eat and then be gone either way

LaLuzdeLucyfer

02-26-2009, 10:59 AM

Verdict is OP still remains true but there are deeper justifications behind the low tips.

Swagnificent

02-26-2009, 11:01 AM

I dont need an excuse not to tip :oldlol: ... Its my money...

you want a tip? act like you want it.....

you dont want a tip? act like you dont, then :confusedshrug: that simple

makes little difference to me... Im gonna eat and then be gone either way

Let me ask you this Rasheed... growing up with your family, when eating at sit-in restaurants when you received "average" service, how did your parents tip?

Just curious. I think this may be more of how you were brought up VS your own personal assessment of tipping.

Rasheed1

02-26-2009, 11:08 AM

I'll gladly tip a person who earns it.....

but alot of 'service' mofos give poor 'service' and then run to ish to complain that their tip action isnt adding up :oldlol:

put a smile on, be prompt, be pleasant and you'll always get a nice tip from me...

but I dont see that as much as I see people who let who sit at your table for 20 min. before they even see you.....*strike1*.... they are forgetful.... How many times have I asked you for a glass of water? *strike2* table is dirty, attitude is poor......

by the time I tally it up, youve zeroed out the tip money..

:confusedshrug: sorry pal, I would say better luck next time except I'll never eat here again...

Rasheed1

02-26-2009, 11:15 AM

Let me ask you this Rasheed... growing up with your family, when eating at sit-in restaurants when you received "average" service, how did your parents tip?

Just curious. I think this may be more of how you were brought up VS your own personal assessment of tipping.

My mom is a person who cares what people think on issues where she shouldnt.. "people will say something racist about us if we dont tip even though they were terrible" (not a strike at ma Dukes because I love her and she is a brillant woman in my eyes, but she is from a different time)

Me on the other hand, I have definite principles on my money because I worked for it and I refuse to give it out unless Im satisfied with what I receive.... I dont shop at stores where Im not appreciated, I dont support organizations that I dont respect.... so I dont really care what they think if I dont patronize them..

this goes for tipping also...... I would never give money to somebody who I feel didnt earn it..

if they dont like that? :violin: i dont care...

Swagnificent

02-26-2009, 11:18 AM

My mom is a person who cares what people think on issues where she shouldnt.. "people will say something racist about us if we dont tip even though they were terrible"

Me on the other hand, I have definite principles on my money because I worked for it and I refuse to give it out unless Im satisfied with what I receive.... I dont shop at stores where Im not appreciated, I dont support organizations that I dont respect.... so I dont really care what they think if I dont patronize them..

this goes for tipping also...... I would never give money to somebody who I feel didnt earn it..

if they dont like that? :violin: i dont care...

Of all the times you've eaten out... have any of the staff you've never tipped came after you and asked why or gave you mean looks... I'm just curious b/c I think stuff like that is funny to see. Has that ever happened? What did you say to them if they approached you?

Rasheed1

02-26-2009, 11:30 AM

Of all the times you've eaten out... have any of the staff you've never tipped came after you and asked why or gave you mean looks... I'm just curious b/c I think stuff like that is funny to see. Has that ever happened? What did you say to them if they approached you?

never been asked 'why' if I dont tip... if they did ask why, I would simply say the service was terrible, thats why. ..

places I normally go are up to par as far as service, so I dont normally have a problem... I frequent the same places... alot of restaurants in philadelphia. There is alot of good ones too and I have already picked my favorites...

Swagnificent

02-26-2009, 11:37 AM

never been asked 'why' if I dont tip... if they did ask why, I would simply say the service was terrible, thats why. ..

places I normally go are up to par as far as service, so I dont normally have a problem... I frequent the same places... alot of restaurants in philadelphia. There is alot of good ones too and I have already picked my favorites...

Fair enough.

Dasher

04-01-2009, 08:26 PM

I got some great service the other night. I had to break my usual **** a tip rule because the food and service was so good there that I will more than likely make return trips.

Bean

04-01-2009, 08:31 PM

Cartmanclone came in, obliterated the competition and split all within the first page.

Hawker

06-05-2010, 09:58 PM

Mega Bump

northwinds

06-05-2010, 10:25 PM

Man, I get so tired of this. I know a lot of folks in the food and beverage industry and the story gets told over and over.....blacks run you back and forth and then don't tip. Even worse, its the same old trick of black folks eating half their meal and then asking for management to come over so they can complain about some made up BS so they can get their meal "compted". These are not isolated incidents...it happens in almost every restaurant ever night. In my local restaurant/bar, whenever I come in (often) the manager comes over and tells me the most recent "Canadian" story. Unfortunately, the managers are all trained to give in to this BS lest they or the restaurant be called "racist"...OMG. Blacks know this and take advantage of this. I have actually stopped patronizing restaurants because of their policy of giving into the nonsense. Why should I pay my bill and tip well to support these freeloaders if you're going to let them get away with it.

wTFaMonkey

06-05-2010, 10:28 PM

lol. funny ass thread :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

pete's montreux

06-05-2010, 11:24 PM

I told that motherf*cker it gets bumped every couple of months.

:hammerhead:

Hawker

06-05-2010, 11:27 PM

I told that motherf*cker it gets bumped every couple of months.

:hammerhead:

lol

Rockets(T-mac)

06-05-2010, 11:34 PM

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blacknapalm

06-05-2010, 11:39 PM

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baller693

06-06-2010, 02:38 AM

http://www.s-cnet.ne.jp/~scn01448/buscemiwk/images/mr.pink.jpg

Mr. Pink: I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's f*cked up. That ain't my fault. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government f*cks in the ass on a regular basis. Look, if you ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it, put it to a vote, I'll vote for it, but what I won't do is play ball. And as for this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to f*ckin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big f*ckin' surprise.

andgar923

06-06-2010, 02:46 AM

This is one area in which I have to agree.

I always thought it was a stereotype until I started to go out to dinner with my black friends more and more.

And I was surprised at how poorly they tipped.... IF they even tipped at all.

I'm sorry, but that's the truth.

They even take it personal or consider it an attack if you bring it up.

I also have black friends that have been waiters and agree with this 100%.

06-06-2010, 08:58 AM

Tipping is stupid. The employers should pay them a fair wage. I pay for food, not for some fool to put it on the table. If she wants money for that, I'll start going to the kitchen and getting it myself. North America.... .

The_Yearning

06-06-2010, 10:26 AM

Seriously man and black folks always play the racist card...F*CK OBAMA.

Juges8932

06-06-2010, 10:56 AM

I would venture to say it's because a much higher % of them were born into poverty, so even when they do come into money, they are much more stingy when it comes to things, such as tipping.

And to the foreigners....Americans have to tip because waiters make $3.15/hr without it. So they aren't paid what they are supposed to be without it. If they were getting paid 10$/hr, then sure, I understand, but they aren't. You could just argue that the corporations should be paying their employees better.

Alonzo Magic

06-06-2010, 10:57 AM

I'm black, I tip.

Another myth debunked.

PowerGlove

06-06-2010, 01:48 PM

:confusedshrug:

So in essence, just because you go out black friends regularly, you are all of sudden an authority on what all black people do?

*sigh*

I'm so glad I know better.

Hawker

06-06-2010, 01:52 PM

:confusedshrug:

So in essence, just because you go out black friends regularly, you are all of sudden an authority on what all black people do?

*sigh*

I'm so glad I know better.

This is all in general dude. Don't be stupid.

Swaggin916

06-06-2010, 02:00 PM

This isn't surprising. Many black people feel like they don't owe anybody anything, yet are owed everything.

PowerGlove

06-06-2010, 02:23 PM

This is all in general dude. Don't be stupid.

In general? Please stop. So this is the thread where we make generalizations based on the small number of black people you know? But I'm the one being stupid. I could understand if you guys actually worked in a restaurant and said something like that because you would have served many types and have a bigger sample size than just three or four people.

Apply this logic to anything else and tell me if it makes sense.

Hawker

06-06-2010, 02:25 PM

In general? Please stop. So this is the thread where we make generalizations based on the small number of black people you know? But I'm the one being stupid. I could understand if you guys actually worked in a restaurant and said something like that because you would have served many types and have a bigger sample size than just three or four people.

Apply this logic to anything else and tell me if it makes sense.

Read the thread dude.

I have my soc degree in minority/ethnic relations, so I'm not one to be prejudicial, but after waiting tables for 4 years during undergrad I can say the average blacl family tips a lot worse. There's nothing worse than working a table of 10 after church on sunday and getting 8 bucks on 100.

This based off a friend of mine who was a waitress. I am not sterotyping, just basing it off her experience. She told me of all races, that Black people tipped by far the worse. She worked at Claim Jumper, which is not the best, but not the worst quality either, so there was an even mix of people. And she is the type of person to bust her as$ off with a smile in what ever she does, so I know she always provided good service. She said there was a time 2 black couples came in for dinner and a few drinks, constantly asking for refills and whatnot. Bill was around 90-100 bucks. They honeslty left change on the table as tip!. And this was not the only incident she told me about. Of course there were other races who left bad tips and there were black people who did leave a good tip but blacks were the most consistent to leave bad tip in her time there. She told me there were people who left below average tips, but black people were the ones who left the "insultful" tips where its like a few bucks.

PowerGlove

06-06-2010, 02:30 PM

Read the thread dude.
Obviously I did read the thread, which is why I said, "I could understand if you worked in a restaurant....", I'm talking the other people who just say this without any reasoning.

Anyways, I tip pretty well when I eat out and have pizzas delivered and one of my friends who works at IHOP says its the complete opposite because it is the white people who tip badly here. It may just be an anomaly though since that this is a city with a lot of affluent black people.

chungerball

06-06-2010, 02:45 PM

Obviously I did read the thread, which is why I said, "I could understand if you worked in a restaurant....", I'm talking the other people who just say this without any reasoning.

Anyways, I tip pretty well when I eat out and have pizzas delivered and one of my friends who works at IHOP says its the complete opposite because it is the white people who tip badly here. It may just be an anomaly though since that this is a city with a lot of affluent black people.

It's call common sense. You either have it or you don't.....

Hawker

06-06-2010, 03:03 PM

College kids probably tip just as bad.

-playmaker-

06-06-2010, 03:23 PM

College kids probably tip just as bad.
which is why I stand behind my original posts here, this is a money issue and and not a race issue...

black people would tip like like white people do if they had money like white people do...

the thread title should be "why do 'POOR PEOPLE' tip so badly?"

answer: because they don't have much money

DeuceWallaces

06-06-2010, 04:00 PM

No, it's a cultural thing. In my experience as a waiter, black families, of all incomes, tip worse than other ethnic groups.

Captain Kirk

06-06-2010, 04:50 PM

No, it's a cultural thing. In my experience as a waiter, black families, of all incomes, tip worse than other ethnic groups.

Yes, because you have an income radar.

catzhernandez

06-06-2010, 04:54 PM

when did people start calling Asians 'African American'?
Lol exactly what I was thinking. Asians and Indians are by far the worst. Black folk usually tip me good, if not great sometimes.

catzhernandez

06-06-2010, 04:56 PM

College kids probably tip just as bad.
Yes, yes they do.

And it's not like all whites tip great either. I've seen business men worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, tip like they live week to week.

-playmaker-

06-06-2010, 06:39 PM

No, it's a cultural thing. In my experience as a waiter, black families, of all incomes, tip worse than other ethnic groups.
even if it is a cultural thing, it is a trend started in their culture due to a lack of money...

this all come down to money...not skin color

THIS is what happens when a black people get money:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWSKeR8GW1g&feature=related

:lol

rich black athletes will throw money around like it ain't shit...