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catzhernandez
06-07-2008, 08:26 PM
hi.

SCY
06-07-2008, 08:27 PM
Forwarded to the FBI.

catzhernandez
06-07-2008, 08:32 PM
Forwarded to the FBI.
lmao

Apples
06-07-2008, 08:37 PM
Forwarded to the FBI.
:oldlol:

catzhernandez
06-07-2008, 09:06 PM
nobody?? Seriously???

statman32
06-07-2008, 09:08 PM
nobody?? Seriously???
I can't remember me taking any pictures of me doing the act...just the aftermath. :(

gts
06-07-2008, 10:34 PM
lol more ammo for the cartoonists, wonder what they'll be shoving in his mouth this time

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6925/new063vy7.jpg

~LA's fine$t~
06-07-2008, 10:46 PM
I don't know too many pot heads that have those old school clocks in their houses. :oldlol:

Scott Pippen
06-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Forwarded to the FBI.:lol

Steve Nashty
06-07-2008, 10:58 PM
this dude gelled his hair just to try and look good online to a bunch of dudes...

King of the D
06-07-2008, 11:01 PM
this dude gelled his hair just to try and look good online to a bunch of dudes...
yup what a ***...:rolleyes:

Mr_Basketball#1
06-07-2008, 11:02 PM
Catz don't you live in Indiana? What's going on with the flood? Did it affect your area?

Sorry to get off topic

Mr_Basketball#1
06-07-2008, 11:03 PM
this dude gelled his hair just to try and look good online to a bunch of dudes...
..

TheGreatDeraj
06-07-2008, 11:08 PM
Ha you look really baked. What strain did you get and what kinda piece did you smoke out of?

Keep on tokin :pimp:

starface
06-07-2008, 11:37 PM
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5391/thisn1bd5.jpg

Steve Nashty
06-07-2008, 11:58 PM
sometimes the most simple pieces of art are the most amusing

d_white089
06-08-2008, 12:06 AM
lol more ammo for the cartoonists, wonder what they'll be shoving in his mouth this time

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6925/new063vy7.jpg

haha so obvious...someone HAS to photoshop this pic

JayGuevara
06-08-2008, 12:35 AM
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5391/thisn1bd5.jpg


Hi pot? Yeah, you're black too.


By the way, taking pictures of yourself doing something illegal is generally not a good idea. It's called irrefutable evidence.

d_white089
06-08-2008, 12:38 AM
Hi pot? Yeah, you're black too.


By the way, taking pictures of yourself doing something illegal is generally not a good idea. It's called irrefutable evidence.

Sounds like a good thread:

Post A Pic Of You Doing Something Illegal

Franco Hamilton
06-08-2008, 12:38 AM
Hi pot? Yeah, you're black too.


By the way, taking pictures of yourself doing something illegal is generally not a good idea. It's called irrefutable evidence.

:oldlol:

The Detroit Beaner knows what's up.

statman32
06-08-2008, 12:38 AM
Hi pot? Yeah, you're black too.


By the way, taking pictures of yourself doing something illegal is generally not a good idea. It's called irrefutable evidence.
Well it could be photoshopped so its not exactly irrefutable. :D

v-unit
06-08-2008, 12:41 AM
...brb uploading pics of me raping a girl

d_white089
06-08-2008, 12:44 AM
...brb uploading pics of me raping a girl
:oldlol:

Fudge
06-08-2008, 12:53 AM
:oldlol:
How the **** do you find that comical? Unless if you're mentally handicapped of course. :confusedshrug:

v-unit
06-08-2008, 12:54 AM
How the **** do you find that comical? Unless if you're mentally handicapped of course. :confusedshrug:

I doubt mentally handicapped people would find that comical.

And you need to relax, it's a joke, people have said far worse, especially online. Try loosening up those buttons a bit, you might have some fun once in a while.

d_white089
06-08-2008, 12:57 AM
How the **** do you find that comical? Unless if you're mentally handicapped of course. :confusedshrug:


it's not as if he was REALLY doing it, idiot

Lebron23
06-08-2008, 12:58 AM
it's not as if he was REALLY doing it, idiot

:roll: :oldlol: :roll:

Fudge
06-08-2008, 12:59 AM
I doubt mentally handicapped people would find that comical.

And you need to relax, it's a joke, people have said far worse, especially online. Try loosening up those buttons a bit, you might have some fun once in a while.
They would.

Is that honestly "having fun" to you? Like, really? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that was just plain stupid. Get real pal.

Fudge
06-08-2008, 01:01 AM
it's not as if he was REALLY doing it, idiot
Commit suicide right now. I beg of you.

v-unit
06-08-2008, 01:01 AM
They would.

Is that honestly "having fun" to you? Like, really? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that was just plain stupid. Get real pal.

I'm sure some unregistered users got a chuckle. I got a chuckle, and apperently so did d_wight. You can't expect humour to be just smart and tacky. The key to humour is having stupidity in it.

IlliniFan
06-08-2008, 01:03 AM
I'm sure some unregistered users got a chuckle. I got a chuckle, and apperently so did d_wight. You can't expect humour to be just smart and tacky. The key to humour is having stupidity in it.
No the key to humor is to be clever. Not stupid. You got the stupid part down pat though.

v-unit
06-08-2008, 01:06 AM
No the key to humor is to be clever. Not stupid. You got the stupid part down pat though.

Someone brought up the idea of posting illegal pictures, I just said I did something illegal, clearly just joking. Who actually thought I was serious?

gts
06-08-2008, 01:07 AM
...brb uploading pics of me robbing a gas station

fixed...lol

Fudge
06-08-2008, 01:09 AM
Stupidity? Check.

That's about it, shooter.

v-unit
06-08-2008, 01:09 AM
:oldlol:

Thank you gts, you save the day yet again.

v-unit
06-08-2008, 01:11 AM
Stupidity? Check.

That's about it, shooter.

No offence, but why are you getting so offended by this? Did you not realize the world has alot of people who say stupid things that can offend people? Like I said before, there are tons of worse things said before, especially online, I don't understand how this is such a big deal to you unless you have first hand experience (Hope not). Your just coming off as an extremly sensitive person, acting like my asian friends would back in elementary school

Fudge
06-08-2008, 01:15 AM
No offence, but why are you getting so offended by this?l
The fact that you claimed that you were having fun, when really, you were just being stupid, bothered me. Should've bothered you too actually, think it over will ya.

jbot
06-08-2008, 02:09 AM
catz, you're one crazy mofo. where are you at in that pic? i don't see you having a grandfather clock in your own place. also, that blind melon band sux.

starface
06-08-2008, 02:15 AM
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5391/thisn1bd5.jpg


bump LMAO

High Potential
06-08-2008, 02:30 AM
No offence, but why are you getting so offended by this? Did you not realize the world has alot of people who say stupid things that can offend people? Like I said before, there are tons of worse things said before, especially online, I don't understand how this is such a big deal to you unless you have first hand experience (Hope not). Your just coming off as an extremly sensitive person, acting like my asian friends would back in elementary school
that's not judgemental or bigoted in the slightest

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 03:44 AM
catz, you're one crazy mofo. where are you at in that pic? i don't see you having a grandfather clock in your own place. also, that blind melon band sux.
Yeah, I'm at my house there/here. lol

And NO, Blind Melon is the sheeeet. :rockon:

Anyone else gonna post a pic??

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 04:32 AM
Ha you look really baked. What strain did you get and what kinda piece did you smoke out of?

Keep on tokin :pimp:
It was just some krill that my boy just got.

50 a quad (expensive to some, I know), but it's some NICE mids.

and btw, I was smoking a blunt.

mike239489
06-08-2008, 05:39 AM
bump LMAO

You are so pathetic.

Shep
06-08-2008, 07:23 AM
what a ****in nobody. "yeh, lets all get high at my house while my parents are sleeping..i'll post pics on ish with fake mad sloppy eyes and losers online will think i'm the ****"..you're a ****in loser man..and a fat one at that. icing on the cake = worst facial hair in the world: brown goatee

LJJ
06-08-2008, 07:40 AM
what a ****in nobody. "yeh, lets all get high at my house while my parents are sleeping..i'll post pics on ish with fake mad sloppy eyes and losers online will think i'm the ****"..you're a ****in loser man..and a fat one at that. icing on the cake = worst facial hair in the world: brown goatee

Haha, yeah.

He tries so hard to look stoned in those pics, but you can tell it's all an act.

GOBB
06-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Dude chest hair busting out his shirt. :roll:

picc84
06-08-2008, 01:00 PM
I am high as a mother*cker right now. SOme of the best weed I've smoked in a couple of months.

Me and a couple of friends of mine were f*cking with the camera earlier when we were smoking, and I took of few pics of me tokin...

So this led me to believe that all of my fellow ISH stoners should post some pics of them blazing as well..


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1347/new062si0.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6925/new063vy7.jpg

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7642/new064wv6.jpg


:lol

THese pics make me laugh.

This was a mistake.

That is all.

Kumo
06-08-2008, 01:09 PM
Your cool...

High Potential
06-08-2008, 01:23 PM
Note how no other "ISH stoners" posted pics of themselves "blazing aswell."

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 05:25 PM
:sleeping


Come get you some, girls... :oldlol:

I admit, this probably was a bad thread idea, but I was pretty ****ed up at the time and just loading a few pics to my myspace and decided to create this little diddy. And how am I faking? My eyes aren't even red yet in those pictures. But all of the ISH wanna be 'bullies' or '**** talkers' wanna come out of the wordwork to call everything a f*cking fake. But f*ck it, not like anyone on here actually MATTERS in real life. :oldlol:


And oh, golly geez, Shep. You are SOO right, when I wake up in the mornings I'm like, "How am I gonna impress ISH today?'... God, you're so right. I suck. :cry: Guess I'll go kill myself now because some guy named 'Shep' wants to call me out online. :roll: NOOO, whatever shall I do?? Maybe I'll pull a WadeIsABeast move and delete my OP like it really matters. F*ck outta here.

God, there's nothing like ISH and the tools that inhabit it. :oldlol:

starface
06-08-2008, 05:28 PM
:sleeping


Come get you some, girls... :oldlol:

I admit, this probably was a bad thread idea, but I was pretty ****ed up at the time and just loading a few pics to my myspace and decided to create this little diddy. And how am I faking? My eyes aren't even red yet in those pictures. But all of the ISH wanna be 'bullies' or '**** talkers' wanna come out of the wordwork to call everything a f*cking fake. But f*ck it, not like anyone on here actually MATTERS in real life. :oldlol:


And oh, golly geez, Shep. You are SOO right, when I wake up in the mornings I'm like, "How am I gonna impress ISH today?'... God, you're so right. I suck. :cry: Guess I'll go kill myself now because some guy named 'Shep' wants to call me out online. :roll: NOOO, whatever shall I do?? Maybe I'll pull a WadeIsABeast move and delete my OP like it really matters. F*ck outta here.

God, there's nothing like ISH and the tools that inhabit it. :oldlol:



http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5391/thisn1bd5.jpg

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 05:31 PM
^^

:applause:

You rock, dude.

You must be the coolest kid in your WHOLE 5th grade class.

High Potential
06-08-2008, 05:31 PM
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5391/thisn1bd5.jpg
It was not the best move on his part to try to defend this thread...

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 05:38 PM
By the way, taking pictures of yourself doing something illegal is generally not a good idea. It's called irrefutable evidence.
could be tobacco

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 05:40 PM
How the **** do you find that comical? Unless if you're mentally handicapped of course. :confusedshrug:
I loled...

however I can see why someone wold frown at it if they know someone close to them that has been raped...

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 05:48 PM
sorry to say this catz but I really do have a dislike for pot heads in general...

some of my closest freinds are pot heads and there are 2 in particular that I know that still live with thier parents.....it is not a coincedence IMO

looking at the grandfather clock behind you tells me that is either your parents house or that you have the most uncool choice of furinture ever...if you keep smoking that crap you will stay next to that clock....forever.

now I am not really one to talk because i drink alot and that is probably worse...but both kill you...pot just kills you in a different way.

alcohol will literally kill you

pot will kill your life and ruin it completely....and I have seen it happen....and I still see it happen...


to be honest that last pic of you blowing out smoke and looking as though you are half brain dead makes me feel really sad for you.

do yourself a favor and stop smoking that crap....and don't give me the same BS excuse that all pot heads give me..."50% of all doctors and lawyers smoke pot"..."pot has never killed anyone"...ect ect.....

that stuff is VERY capable of ruining your life....trust me.

~LA's fine$t~
06-08-2008, 05:49 PM
sorry to say this catz but I really do have a dislike for pot heads in general...

some of my closest freinds are pot heads and there are 2 in particular that I know that still live with thier parents.....it is not a coincedence IMO

looking at the grandfather clock behind you tells me that is either your parents house or that you have the most uncool choice of furinture ever...if you keep smoking that crap you will stay next to that clock....forever.

now I am not really one to talk because i drink alot and that is probably worse...but both kill you...pot just kills you in a different way.

alcohol will literally kill you

pot will kill your life and ruin it completely....and I have seen it happen....and I still see it happen...


to be honest that last pic of you blowing out smoke and looking as though you are half brain dead makes me feel really sad for you.

do yourself a favor and stop smoking that crap....and don't give me the same BS excuse that all pot heads give me..."50% of all doctors and lawyers smoke pot"..."pot has never killed anyone"...ect ect.....

that stuff is VERY capable of ruining your life....trust me.

:roll: And you DON'T want that catz...

GOBB
06-08-2008, 05:51 PM
Yo i bet that clock is worth a lot of money. Where do you live catz? Break in your crib while you are there. Stoners are clueless! ha

Kumo
06-08-2008, 05:58 PM
And oh, golly geez, Shep. You are SOO right, when I wake up in the mornings I'm like, "How am I gonna impress ISH today?'... God, you're so right. I suck. :cry: Guess I'll go kill myself now because some guy named 'Shep' wants to call me out online. :roll: NOOO, whatever shall I do?? Maybe I'll pull a WadeIsABeast move and delete my OP like it really matters. F*ck outta here.

The drugs have inhibited his ability to make sarcasm funny. . . .

~LA's fine$t~
06-08-2008, 06:06 PM
Catz is getting roasted here, lay off the kid.

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 06:11 PM
sorry to say this catz but I really do have a dislike for pot heads in general...

some of my closest freinds are pot heads and there are 2 in particular that I know that still live with thier parents.....it is not a coincedence IMO

looking at the grandfather clock behind you tells me that is either your parents house or that you have the most uncool choice of furinture ever...if you keep smoking that crap you will stay next to that clock....forever.

now I am not really one to talk because i drink alot and that is probably worse...but both kill you...pot just kills you in a different way.

alcohol will literally kill you

pot will kill your life and ruin it completely....and I have seen it happen....and I still see it happen...


to be honest that last pic of you blowing out smoke and looking as though you are half brain dead makes me feel really sad for you.

do yourself a favor and stop smoking that crap....and don't give me the same BS excuse that all pot heads give me..."50% of all doctors and lawyers smoke pot"..."pot has never killed anyone"...ect ect.....

that stuff is VERY capable of ruining your life....trust me.
I'm not really a typical stoner. I've always ha a good memory, and it's still sharp as a tack. I've always been good with numbers, remembering them, math, etc. I'm not burnt out, I'm not an idiot.

Don't feel sorry for me. I'm going to a great school, I have a job, plenty of friends, my own car. What's to feel bad about?? :oldlol:

I could see the worry if I didn't have a LIFE, but I do, so don't worry 'bout me, bro. I'm living at home 'til I graduate, it's cheap and I'm close to my family.

I'm done having to defend myself in this thread. I thought I'd try to 'keep it real':oldlol: but everyone has to act like it's such a HUGE deal that I smoke pot.

gts
06-08-2008, 06:17 PM
I'm not really a typical stoner. I've always ha a good memory, and it's still sharp as a tack. I've always been good with numbers, remembering them, math, etc. I'm not burnt out, I'm not an idiot. you said the same thing yesterday bro

v-unit
06-08-2008, 06:17 PM
you said the same thing yesterday bro

:roll:

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 06:19 PM
you said the same thing yesterday bro
:oldlol:

link?

Houston'sFinest
06-08-2008, 06:19 PM
haha ur ugly and gay

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 06:20 PM
I'm not really a typical stoner. I've always ha a good memory, and it's still sharp as a tack. I've always been good with numbers, remembering them, math, etc. I'm not burnt out, I'm not an idiot.

Don't feel sorry for me. I'm going to a great school, I have a job, plenty of friends, my own car. What's to feel bad about?? :oldlol:

I could see the worry if I didn't have a LIFE, but I do, so don't worry 'bout me, bro. I'm living at home 'til I graduate, it's cheap and I'm close to my family.

I'm done having to defend myself in this thread. I thought I'd try to 'keep it real':oldlol: but everyone has to act like it's such a HUGE deal that I smoke pot.
fair enough...

let me ask you this though...

do you smoke every single day?

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 06:21 PM
fair enough...

let me ask you this though...

do you smoke every single day?
Nah, I haven't even smoked today.

Usually 4 or 5 days a week. It's an ugly habit, I know, but I'm considering quitting. My sister asked me to, so I might do it.

gts
06-08-2008, 06:21 PM
:oldlol:

link?lol, no link just yanking your chain...

ihatetimthomas
06-08-2008, 06:30 PM
sorry to say this catz but I really do have a dislike for pot heads in general...

some of my closest freinds are pot heads and there are 2 in particular that I know that still live with thier parents.....it is not a coincedence IMO

looking at the grandfather clock behind you tells me that is either your parents house or that you have the most uncool choice of furinture ever...if you keep smoking that crap you will stay next to that clock....forever.

now I am not really one to talk because i drink alot and that is probably worse...but both kill you...pot just kills you in a different way.

alcohol will literally kill you

pot will kill your life and ruin it completely....and I have seen it happen....and I still see it happen...


to be honest that last pic of you blowing out smoke and looking as though you are half brain dead makes me feel really sad for you.

do yourself a favor and stop smoking that crap....and don't give me the same BS excuse that all pot heads give me..."50% of all doctors and lawyers smoke pot"..."pot has never killed anyone"...ect ect.....

that stuff is VERY capable of ruining your life....trust me.


Its all dependent on the person. Some people can function and do every day things while being a stoner and others just let their lives just rot away.

Don't say alcohol wouldn't ruin your life. Trust me I have seen it. Yes it literally kills you but it can be worse than weed in killing your life. Alcohol is a much more dangerous overall IMO. A few relatives of mine were alcoholics and it really ruined their family life, social life, and just overall life in general.

Both weed and alcohol can ruin your life if you become addicted to them and if you are not motivated to do real life things. But I know a lot of stoners who are very smart, bright people who went on to grad school. It really depends on the person. Same goes with alcohol. I was a stoner in my college days, still had my priorities straight, made sure I did all my work and studies and graduated with a nice GPA.

bigkingsfan
06-08-2008, 06:30 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/ir6ys2.jpg

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 06:44 PM
Its all dependent on the person. Some people can function and do every day things while being a stoner and others just let their lives just rot away..
agreed...and no offense ment

Don't say alcohol wouldn't ruin your life. Trust me I have seen it. Yes it literally kills you but it can be worse than weed in killing your life. Alcohol is a much more dangerous overall IMO. A few relatives of mine were alcoholics and it really ruined their family life, social life, and just overall life in general..
very much agreed...alcohol is worse....and that is why I said that I really am not one to talk...I just wanted to point out what I have witnessed from my own freinds that smoke...

Both weed and alcohol can ruin your life if you become addicted to them and if you are not motivated to do real life things. But I know a lot of stoners who are very smart, bright people who went on to grad school. It really depends on the person. Same goes with alcohol. I was a stoner in my college days, still had my priorities straight, made sure I did all my work and studies and graduated with a nice GPA.
this is something that I can't really agree on...

I have never seen a stoner in my life go on to be successful...

and by "stoner" I am thinking of someone who smokes on a daily basis...right???...not someone that smokes on the weekends.

You think that Bill Gates or Mark Cuban or Donald Trump or (insert rich business man here) would be who they are if that got f*cking blazed to hell everyday of thier life ????

I don't buy into the myth that pot heads give me that alot of successful people (doctors, lawyers, ect.) are pot heads....I am sure there are a few exceptions but I just don't see how anyone could be really successful high everyday...



question:

if you were about to have heart surgury done would you not freak out if you found out the guy that is about to perform it was a stoner????

I would...

catzhernandez
06-08-2008, 06:50 PM
lol, no link just yanking your chain...
lol, i know



I was a stoner in my college days, still had my priorities straight, made sure I did all my work and studies and graduated with a nice GPA.

Bingo.

Thanks for the support, mate.

dnyk1337
06-08-2008, 06:53 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/ir6ys2.jpg

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3567/simpsonslockgx4.gif

InspiredLebowski
06-08-2008, 06:57 PM
Hey, we all know 2 people represents a group of millions justly.

MrEncinas
06-08-2008, 07:03 PM
I don't buy into the myth that pot heads give me that alot of successful people (doctors, lawyers, ect.) are pot heads....I am sure there are a few exceptions but I just don't see how anyone could be really successful high everyday...
One very large factor to consider is that so many people, specifically successfully and wealthy people, fear how others would react if they knew they smoked pot. However, there have been a large number of successfully people that have admitted to marijuana use. Carl Sagan, Bruce Babbitt, Claiborne Pell, Newt Gingrich, Woody Harrelson, Brad Pitt, and a host of musicians; The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Louis Armstrong, Willie Nelson, and Bing Crosby to name a few. Some that have admitted to smoking marijuana but not what most (yourself included) would consider a "pothead" include; Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, George Clooney, JFK, and of course current President George W. Bush.

Just for anyone that may be curious, I myself don't smoke very often. I did frequently in high school and a little while after, but it's much less frequent nowadays (a few times a year).

High Potential
06-08-2008, 07:31 PM
One very large factor to consider is that so many people, specifically successfully and wealthy people, fear how others would react if they knew they smoked pot. However, there have been a large number of successfully people that have admitted to marijuana use. Carl Sagan, Bruce Babbitt, Claiborne Pell, Newt Gingrich, Woody Harrelson, Brad Pitt, and a host of musicians; The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Louis Armstrong, Willie Nelson, and Bing Crosby to name a few. Some that have admitted to smoking marijuana but not what most (yourself included) would consider a "pothead" include; Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, George Clooney, JFK, and of course current President George W. Bush.

Just for anyone that may be curious, I myself don't smoke very often. I did frequently in high school and a little while after, but it's much less frequent nowadays (a few times a year).
Note. All of those people you listed have something called talent or family connections to get beastly job. I'm not sure our friend catzhernandez possesses either of those qualities..

SHEED_ gangsta
06-08-2008, 07:36 PM
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5391/thisn1bd5.jpg


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 07:42 PM
One very large factor to consider is that so many people, specifically successfully and wealthy people, fear how others would react if they knew they smoked pot. However, there have been a large number of successfully people that have admitted to marijuana use. Carl Sagan, Bruce Babbitt, Claiborne Pell, Newt Gingrich, Woody Harrelson, Brad Pitt, and a host of musicians; The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Louis Armstrong, Willie Nelson, and Bing Crosby to name a few. Some that have admitted to smoking marijuana but not what most (yourself included) would consider a "pothead" include; Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, George Clooney, JFK, and of course current President George W. Bush.

Just for anyone that may be curious, I myself don't smoke very often. I did frequently in high school and a little while after, but it's much less frequent nowadays (a few times a year).
oh hell eveyone has tried it a few times at some point in time...

Bush has done coke..

I am talking about people who smoke everyday...

that aren't rock stars or actors


give me an example of a successful businessman that smokes EVERYDAY...

ihatetimthomas
06-08-2008, 08:20 PM
this is something that I can't really agree on...


What exactly cant you agree with? The fact that I KNOW people who are stoners and are successful? Its not just something I pulled out of my ass. I know these people. And I know I used to smoke everyday and I got through college and did very well and now have a successful job.


I have never seen a stoner in my life go on to be successful...


and by "stoner" I am thinking of someone who smokes on a daily basis...right???...not someone that smokes on the weekends.

You think that Bill Gates or Mark Cuban or Donald Trump or (insert rich business man here) would be who they are if that got f*cking blazed to hell everyday of thier life ????

I don't buy into the myth that pot heads give me that alot of successful people (doctors, lawyers, ect.) are pot heads....I am sure there are a few exceptions but I just don't see how anyone could be really successful high everyday...



question:

if you were about to have heart surgury done would you not freak out if you found out the guy that is about to perform it was a stoner????

I would...



Why are you bringing up Bill Gates and Donald Trump? We were discussing regular people not geniuses like them. How do you know every successful person was not stoner at some point in their life? Do you know that for a fact or are you once again assuming what you think is correct is how it is?

I will agree with you that you cannot become as successful as you possibly can be IF you blaze all day every day. No shyt you wouldnt be able to do everything you want if you were high 24/7. But what about alcoholics? If you heard your heart surgeon was an alcoholic, would you want them to perform on you? I know I wouldnt. Same difference.

When I was in college, i smoked every day for a span of time. I wasnt high in the morning, during class, while taking exams. I would smoke at night when I got all my shyt done and was ready to relax. Being a stoner does not equate into being high from when you wake up til you sleep.


Im not saying smoking does not hinder your ability to be all you can be. Even with responsible people, it does hinder you to a certain degree. From what I have gotten from you, you seem to believe just bc you are a stoner, you cant be successful in any way and you are destined to a life of living with your parents. All Im saying is this is not true for everyone. And it seems you are basing your thoughts on just a few of your buds who never amounted to anything. I can tell you this. In college, the people who drank everyday compared to the people who smoked everyday were far worse students, based on my experience. None of my stoner friends will go on to be Bill Gates or Donald Trump, but they were very good students and are furthuring their education. I know they will be successful.

lakers_fan4life
06-08-2008, 08:24 PM
haha this guy is embarrassed haha he thought other people would post pics little did he know this was gonna turn into a 6 page thread of people on ISH talkin about him haha!!!!

dnyk1337
06-08-2008, 08:25 PM
haha this guy is embarrassed haha he thought other people would post pics little did he know this was gonna turn into a 6 page thread of people on ISH talkin about him haha!!!!

I only see 2 pages.:confusedshrug:

Edit: 3 now with my post.

statman32
06-08-2008, 08:31 PM
I only see 2 pages.:confusedshrug:

Edit: 3 now with my post.
Its 6 becuase we have the amount of posts per page setting on default.

dnyk1337
06-08-2008, 08:32 PM
Its 6 becuase we have the amount of posts per page setting on default.

If you were smart you'd change it to 40 replies per page.

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 08:48 PM
What exactly cant you agree with? The fact that I KNOW people who are stoners and are successful? Its not just something I pulled out of my ass. I know these people. And I know I used to smoke everyday and I got through college and did very well and now have a successful job.




Why are you bringing up Bill Gates and Donald Trump? We were discussing regular people not geniuses like them. How do you know every successful person was not stoner at some point in their life? Do you know that for a fact or are you once again assuming what you think is correct is how it is?

I will agree with you that you cannot become as successful as you possibly can be IF you blaze all day every day. No shyt you wouldnt be able to do everything you want if you were high 24/7. But what about alcoholics? If you heard your heart surgeon was an alcoholic, would you want them to perform on you? I know I wouldnt. Same difference.

When I was in college, i smoked every day for a span of time. I wasnt high in the morning, during class, while taking exams. I would smoke at night when I got all my shyt done and was ready to relax. Being a stoner does not equate into being high from when you wake up til you sleep.


Im not saying smoking does not hinder your ability to be all you can be. Even with responsible people, it does hinder you to a certain degree. From what I have gotten from you, you seem to believe just bc you are a stoner, you cant be successful in any way and you are destined to a life of living with your parents. All Im saying is this is not true for everyone. And it seems you are basing your thoughts on just a few of your buds who never amounted to anything. I can tell you this. In college, the people who drank everyday compared to the people who smoked everyday were far worse students, based on my experience. None of my stoner friends will go on to be Bill Gates or Donald Trump, but they were very good students and are furthuring their education. I know they will be successful.

we basically agree...

i brought up Bill Gates and others on successful people that we both know...if I listed some of my freinds that are successful you wouldn't know who the hell i was talking about...

I used to be a stoner in high school and a couple years past that...I am sure that there are thousands of successful people that went through a "stoner period"....

i am just talking about people that smoke everyday constantly....like till they die.

I have freinds that I grew up smoking weed with in high school and some of them NEVER STOPED...they still smoke everyday.....and a couple of them are 30 years + and still living with thier parents...and I don't think it is just a coincedence that the only freinds of mine tht are still living at home just happen to be freinds that smoke weed every god damn morning they wake up....


like I said....I think we both are saying the same thing....I just sense taht you are getting a little offended or frustrated at what I am saying because you yourself smoke...



do you smoke EVERYDAY????...be honest

Steve Nashty
06-08-2008, 08:50 PM
your a pretty big loser to be smoking weed and trying to seem "cool" about it. something tells me this isnt your first time, whether it be on insidehoops or somewhere else, you have probebly tried to seem cool infront of numerous people with weed.

starface pretty much summed it up with that picture.

mlh1981
06-08-2008, 08:51 PM
Based on my observations, people who smoke weed are a bit TOO mellow for me. They seemed to have lost any real enthusiasm for life. I think weed kinda robs of you any/all childlike enthusiasm that one has.

The stuff just kills your emotions, makes you dull, and though you won't flip out and are generally agreeable, most people, or at least the ones I've seen, who smoke weed, are too even keel.

Wadeisabeast
06-08-2008, 08:56 PM
Based on my observations, people who smoke weed are a bit TOO mellow for me. They seemed to have lost any real enthusiasm for life. I think weed kinda robs of you any/all childlike enthusiasm that one has.

The stuff just kills your emotions, makes you dull, and though you won't flip out and are generally agreeable, most people, or at least the ones I've seen, who smoke weed, are too even keel.

I have all of the "side effects" but i've only taken 2 hits in my life. You think if I started smoking weed I would get better? Kind of how giving ADD kids ridilin makes them calm.

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 08:59 PM
I have all of the "side effects" but i've only taken 2 hits in my life. You think if I started smoking weed I would get better? Kind of how giving ADD kids ridilin makes them calm.
when i first started smoking weed all I did was laugh 24/7

a couple of years smoking it later all it did was make me lazy...and lathargic

now when i smoke it i get the paranoid effect...so i stopped

Hawker
06-08-2008, 09:01 PM
gnaaaaarly braaaaaah

starface
06-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Based on my observations, people who smoke weed are a bit TOO mellow for me. They seemed to have lost any real enthusiasm for life. I think weed kinda robs of you any/all childlike enthusiasm that one has.

The stuff just kills your emotions, makes you dull, and though you won't flip out and are generally agreeable, most people, or at least the ones I've seen, who smoke weed, are too even keel.


based on your obvservations of who, "pothead" characters in movies? i think you're taking the movie cliche a little too seriously.

mlh1981
06-08-2008, 09:31 PM
based on your obvservations of who, "pothead" characters in movies? i think you're taking the movie cliche a little too seriously.

Close friends and my brother.

They just lost their "spark" after they started smoking pot.

Can't say this happens to everyone, but in a way, it does dull the emotions........

playtetris
06-08-2008, 09:32 PM
When I was in college, i smoked every day for a span of time. I wasnt high in the morning, during class, while taking exams. I would smoke at night when I got all my shyt done and was ready to relax. Being a stoner does not equate into being high from when you wake up til you sleep.



i'm in a similiar situation atm, although i probably smoke 2-3 times a week. i still very much consider myself a stoner. i'm currently doing masters in psych, so evidently i haven't thrown away my life yet hahaha

the key, as with everything else, is moderation. you can sustain a pattern of smoking every day as long as you moderate your usage. however, personally, if i smoke on a daily basis, i feel too demotivated.

the people that primetime is talking about probably lack motivation to begin with. if you're a self-indulgent, hedonistic person, and you lack motivation, weed is not the drug for you. however, if you're responsible, know when to stop, then it's generally ok (unless you have a mental illness haha)

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 09:34 PM
Close friends and my brother.

They just lost their "spark" after they started smoking pot.

Can't say this happens to everyone, but in a way, it does dull the emotions........
there is no question about it...

just look at catz in that last pic...you can see it in his eyes.



Brad Pitt in the movie True Romance is pretty spot on to what and everyday smoker is like...

Day La Ghetto
06-08-2008, 09:38 PM
http://www.funxite.com/media/1184-droopy-msn-background.jpg
http://thedroopyfund.com/images/droopy.jpg

starface
06-08-2008, 09:39 PM
http://thedroopyfund.com/images/droopy.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7642/new064wv6.jpg
l,mao

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 09:43 PM
the people that primetime is talking about probably lack motivation to begin with. if you're a self-indulgent, hedonistic person, and you lack motivation, weed is not the drug for you. however, if you're responsible, know when to stop, then it's generally ok (unless you have a mental illness haha)
the people I am talking about also made it through school smoking...

hell I made it through school and college smoking...

the ones that contue to smoke everyday through out adulthood are the ones that never end up becoming anything...

One of the people I am talking about is an ex-girlfriend of mine who has a college degree in accounting....however she has gone through numerous jobs and lost them due to her drug use...

the last 2 jobs she had her bosses decided to give her random drug tests due to the fact that she probably showed up to work high and reaked of weed a couple times.....she got fired.

and since I kicked her out of my place she is now living with her mother again and jobless with no way to pay off her student loans....

for some dumb ass reason she just refuses to stop smoking....like it is a mental addiction that she can't quit...and I always hated being around her while she was blazed.....all she did was lay around and laugh at stupid sh*t and act somewhat half retarded....


let me ask you guys this....do you plan on being just "casual smokers" past the age of 40???

during school is fine but sometime in your life you have got to quit...




unless you are a rock star or actor....then you are free to Willie Nelson or Grateful Dead your life away...

HowardsBlunt
06-08-2008, 09:49 PM
anyone ever taken a black and mild and re made it with soem weed

Day La Ghetto
06-08-2008, 09:52 PM
the people I am talking about also made it through school smoking...

hell I made it through school and college smoking...

the ones that contue to smoke everyday through out adulthood are the ones that never end up becoming anything...

One of the people I am talking about is an ex-girlfriend of mine who has a college degree in accounting....however she has gone through numerous jobs and lost them due to her drug use...

the last 2 jobs she had her bosses decided to give her random drug tests due to the fact that she probably showed up to work high and reaked of weed a couple times.....she got fired.

and since I kicked her out of my place she is now living with her mother again and jobless with no way to pay off her student loans....

for some dumb ass reason she just refuses to stop smoking....like it is a mental addiction that she can't quit...and I always hated being around her while she was blazed.....all she did was lay around and laugh at stupid sh*t and act somewhat half retarded....


let me ask you guys this....do you plan on being just "casual smokers" past the age of 40???

during school is fine but sometime in your life you have got to quit...




unless you are a rock star or actor....then you are free to Willie Nelson or Grateful Dead your life away...

Shut the PHUCK up. You ain't got the cards to be talking. You're a self admitted alcoholic attention seeking geeekkk. Alcoholics are lower on my list then stoners . Doesn't mean you're a bad person, its just means you're making worse decisons and need more help to stop. Where do you get the stroke to being talking about how bad smoking weed is bad for your life? Generally weed isn't going to fuak your life over completely and atleast theres a grey area where lots suceed, with alcoholism you're at major risk of dieing and probably an embarrament to friends and family ..whereas there no grey area here, whole different ballgame with alcohol and weed.

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 09:54 PM
Shut the PHUCK up. You ain't got the cards to be talking. You're a self admitted alcoholic attention seeking geeekkk. Alcoholics are lower on my list then stoners . Doesn't mean you're a bad person, its just means you're making worse decisons and need more help to stop. Were do you get the stroke to being talking about how bad smoking weed is bad for your life? Generally weed isn't going to fuak your life over completely and atleast theres a grey area where lots suceed, with alcoholism you're at major risk of dieing and probably an embarrament to friends and family ..whereas there no grey area here, whole different ballgame with alcohol and weed.
I have said exact thing twice now...yes it is worse

read up before you post please...



except for me being a "geekkkk" lmao...and my freinds drink too...

and I have 30 years worth of cards to be talking...


do you think I am just making these stories up about the girl I lived with and my freinds???....I am not trying to offened you dude, so relax.....hell go smoke something.

Day La Ghetto
06-08-2008, 09:57 PM
I have said exact thing twice now...yes it is worse

read up before you post please...



except for me being a "geekkkk" lmao...and my freinds drink too...

and I have 30 years worth of cards to be talking...

Then why are you giving your opinion on it? Its ruining peoples lifes yet you're doing something much worse and not stoping anytime soon.

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 10:04 PM
Then why are you giving your opinion on it?
.
because I have seen it ruin people's lives....people very close to me.

Its ruining peoples lifes yet you're doing something much worse and not stoping anytime soon.
I am trying to stop...

tonight I decided to stay in....last night was another story though....what can I say, it is really f*cking hard to go out without drinking...

what I am doing is much worse I admitt....however it has nothing to do with the topic and it doesn't mean I am not allowed to give my opinion on people that get blazed all day every day...

did you know there is a group similiar to AA for stoners???....there are people out there that can't stop smoking weed....although there is no physical addiction these people still can't quit...and it is ruining or already has ruined there life...

IDK....maybe I just take it personal kind of due to the fact i have seen what it is capable of doing....and I am sickl to death of hearing my freinds excuses.....excuse after excuse after excuse....it is never the weed that is the problem it is something else to them...

playtetris
06-08-2008, 11:09 PM
let me ask you guys this....do you plan on being just "casual smokers" past the age of 40???


well, i virtually have to quit due to the drug testing in the field that i'm going to be working in (forensic psychology).

however, if i had a job that i wasn't drug tested in, and weed wasn't getting in the way of achieving what i want to achieve, i wouldn't stop. i don't see anything wrong with having a joint to relax after a long day at work. it's analogous to people who come home to a glass of red wine.

-primetime-
06-08-2008, 11:24 PM
well, i virtually have to quit due to the drug testing in the field that i'm going to be working in (forensic psychology).

however, if i had a job that i wasn't drug tested in, and weed wasn't getting in the way of achieving what i want to achieve, i wouldn't stop. i don't see anything wrong with having a joint to relax after a long day at work. it's analogous to people who come home to a glass of red wine.
so...just like a glass of red wine....is smoking a joint after work something that you wouldn't have a problem doing right in front of your 10 year old son???

or would you hide it?

pethuel03
06-09-2008, 12:49 AM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5532/atsuv2.jpg

B-Low
06-09-2008, 01:01 AM
And here we have another 14 year old who is obsessed with drawing d!cks...

can you at least explain why it looks like a seal that's been cut up by a boat motor?

pethuel03
06-09-2008, 01:06 AM
uhm. i love you

B-Low
06-09-2008, 01:12 AM
Ew. Get away.

pethuel03
06-09-2008, 01:15 AM
your like a 40 year old man. your so unhappy. your the most boring man in this world. but still i love you.

catzhernandez
06-09-2008, 01:24 AM
your like a 40 year old man. your so unhappy. your the most boring man in this world. but still i love you.
lol

this thread fails so bad. :oldlol:

Gotta love it though. :)

B-Low
06-09-2008, 01:25 AM
No. Get away. And stay off my lawn.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 01:27 AM
can you at least explain why it looks like a seal that's been cut up by a boat motor?
:oldlol:

yeah what the hell is going on with that thing???

catzhernandez
06-09-2008, 01:28 AM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5532/atsuv2.jpg
Jesus, does this dick have the clap, or what?

I only suck CLEAN d!cks. (no homo)

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 01:35 AM
Jesus, does this dick have the clap, or what?

:oldlol:

yeah I want to know what the hell went on in creating this Pacaso like masterpeice...

there is a little purple in there and then some empty areas and light brown covered with dark brown and then some strange outline and a caucasian hole...:oldlol:

what the hell was going through your head when you were making this thing???

B-Low
06-09-2008, 02:38 AM
:oldlol:

yeah I want to know what the hell went on in creating this Pacaso like masterpeice...

there is a little purple in there and then some empty areas and light brown covered with dark brown and then some strange outline and a caucasian hole...:oldlol:

what the hell was going through your head when you were making this thing???

He was probably looking down at his own d!ck for reference. Us questioning it is a shock to him cuz his mom raised him under the impression that everyone's junk was horribly mangled.

ihatetimthomas
06-09-2008, 02:39 AM
we basically agree...

i brought up Bill Gates and others on successful people that we both know...if I listed some of my freinds that are successful you wouldn't know who the hell i was talking about...

I used to be a stoner in high school and a couple years past that...I am sure that there are thousands of successful people that went through a "stoner period"....

i am just talking about people that smoke everyday constantly....like till they die.

I have freinds that I grew up smoking weed with in high school and some of them NEVER STOPED...they still smoke everyday.....and a couple of them are 30 years + and still living with thier parents...and I don't think it is just a coincedence that the only freinds of mine tht are still living at home just happen to be freinds that smoke weed every god damn morning they wake up....


like I said....I think we both are saying the same thing....I just sense taht you are getting a little offended or frustrated at what I am saying because you yourself smoke...



do you smoke EVERYDAY????...be honest

Im am not getting offended. Just annoyed because there was a point in my life where I blazed everyday but I was still responsible and had all my shyt together. And you make it out that you cant be successful if you do blaze. Yes, I used to smoke evryday. But that is in my past. I will smoke every so often. But even when I was smoking daily, my priorities were still the same as they are today. I have all my shyt together, just as I did when I smoked every day.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 02:42 AM
He was probably looking down at his own d!ck for reference. Us questioning it is a shock to him cuz his mom raised him under the impression that everyone's junk was horribly mangled.
:oldlol:

I don't know wether it is a masterpeice of art or a a guy with no arms drew that thing with his feet...

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 02:47 AM
Im am not getting offended. Just annoyed because there was a point in my life where I blazed everyday but I was still responsible and had all my shyt together. And you make it out that you cant be successful if you do blaze. Yes, I used to smoke evryday. But that is in my past. I will smoke every so often. But even when I was smoking daily, my priorities were still the same as they are today. I have all my shyt together, just as I did when I smoked every day.
first off it is impossible to say where/what you would be right now had you never smoked in your life...

second....what was it that made you cut down???

third...I am talking about everyday users only, and I am not sure if we share the same views on what "successful" means...can an everyday user keep a job and have a house....well sure I guess...not sure that makes him a success though....I was talking more of someone that makes 6 figures+....how many everyday users do you know that make big money...???(other than rock stars/hollywood)

ecthelion
06-09-2008, 02:49 AM
He was probably looking down at his own d!ck for reference. Us questioning it is a shock to him cuz his mom raised him under the impression that everyone's junk was horribly mangled.
:roll: :roll:

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 10:12 AM
I'm not really a typical stoner. I've always ha a good memory, and it's still sharp as a tack. I've always been good with numbers, remembering them, math, etc. I'm not burnt out, I'm not an idiot.

Don't feel sorry for me. I'm going to a great school, I have a job, plenty of friends, my own car. What's to feel bad about?? :oldlol:

I could see the worry if I didn't have a LIFE, but I do, so don't worry 'bout me, bro. I'm living at home 'til I graduate, it's cheap and I'm close to my family.

I'm done having to defend myself in this thread. I thought I'd try to 'keep it real':oldlol: but everyone has to act like it's such a HUGE deal that I smoke pot.


Catz... this is what we all said when we were 19. You are trying to act like you are smarter than the people that already walked down that path.

If you keep doing this in the future, your only motivation will be getting high.

That's just my 2 cents.... Listen to people that have been down that road. That's what I'm trying to do with alcohol right now.

playtetris
06-09-2008, 10:23 AM
so...just like a glass of red wine....is smoking a joint after work something that you wouldn't have a problem doing right in front of your 10 year old son???

or would you hide it?

tough one, especially considering smoke that they can inhale is involved.

@ 10, i think i'd "hide" it. smoke outside or whatever.

if they found out then (or at any point), i'd explain to them the pros/cons of the habit, and emphasise how use should be left until after the mind is fully developed (or at least mainly developed). the process of explanation would be much the same as it would be with alcohol. i'd probably have a discussion relating to drugs at 12 or so years old, anyways.

ihatetimthomas
06-09-2008, 12:42 PM
first off it is impossible to say where/what you would be right now had you never smoked in your life...

second....what was it that made you cut down???

third...I am talking about everyday users only, and I am not sure if we share the same views on what "successful" means...can an everyday user keep a job and have a house....well sure I guess...not sure that makes him a success though....I was talking more of someone that makes 6 figures+....how many everyday users do you know that make big money...???(other than rock stars/hollywood)

1. True. Maybe I would have been better who know though, cant predict what would have happened had I choose a diff. path.

2. I was just smoking too much. I knew guys who smoked even more than me, but I was doing it too much and spending too much money on it. And it really got old for me after a while, smoking with friends, eating, playing video games...same old routine

3. To me successful is different than you I guess. For me success is having a job that you enjoy and pays well. Success to me is being content with what you are doing, and being the best you can be. Of course success to me involves $, but its not the only factor for me. I love what i do, I make good money, and likely will make more in the future.

I guess I couldnt tell you that I knew people who fall in your classification of success that are everyday smokers. But part of that is that I dont know a ton of guys who smoke and most are relatively young (22-24). What I do know, is that me and some of my buds who smoked daily are focused of furthuring our careers/education that will set us up to be making 6 figures (hopefully) in the next 2-4 years.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 02:02 PM
2. I was just smoking too much. I knew guys who smoked even more than me, but I was doing it too much and spending too much money on it. And it really got old for me after a while, smoking with friends, eating, playing video games...same old routine

this is all I was getting at...

some smokers are unable to get out of "the same old routine". and before they know it, they are 30 years old and still living with thier parents, doing the same thing they were 10 years ago...I've seen it happen.

and what really gets under my skin about my freinds like this is that for the most part they will deny that pot is the reason and defend it and make excuses for it till the end...as though it is completely harmless and had nothing to do with thier lack of motivation...

anyway, I think I am done ranting about it here.....and no offense ment to anyone.

ihatetimthomas
06-09-2008, 02:05 PM
this is all I was getting at...

some smokers are unable to get out of "the same old routine". and before they know it, they are 30 years old and still living with thier parents, doing the same thing they were 10 years ago...I've seen it happen.

and what really gets under my skin about my freinds like this is that for the most part they will deny that pot is the reason and defend it and make excuses for it till the end...as though it is completely harmless and had nothing to do with thier lack of motivation...

anyway, I think I am done ranting about it here.....and no offense ment to anyone.

Classic denial. I know successful guys who were stoners, but also know a few who just smoked too much and were not motivated. And the excuse was always that it was not weed, but for some people it is the problem.

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 02:31 PM
this is all I was getting at...

some smokers are unable to get out of "the same old routine". and before they know it, they are 30 years old and still living with thier parents, doing the same thing they were 10 years ago...I've seen it happen.

and what really gets under my skin about my freinds like this is that for the most part they will deny that pot is the reason and defend it and make excuses for it till the end...as though it is completely harmless and had nothing to do with thier lack of motivation...

anyway, I think I am done ranting about it here.....and no offense ment to anyone.

Honestly its not the reason, at least not by itself. If it was I wouldn't be working for one of the largest banks in the country and possibly about to start law school in August. I go through an oz in about a week, and still I'm able to function at my job and nobody in my family knows I smoke. Those people you're talking about just sound like they weren't ready to grow up and their parents didn't push them out so they were just content with their lives as is.

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Honestly its not the reason, at least not by itself. If it was I wouldn't be working for one of the largest banks in the country and possibly about to start law school in August. I go through an oz in about a week, and still I'm able to function at my job and nobody in my family knows I smoke. Those people you're talking about just sound like they weren't ready to grow up and their parents didn't push them out so they were just content with their lives as is.

The President of the U.S. used to be an alcoholic...

I'm sure he was able to function at his job too.

And let me remind people that pot is illegal... will you learn this in law school?


(Hey look.... 420 posts!!! We should all smoke a bowl!!!)

ihatetimthomas
06-09-2008, 02:41 PM
The President of the U.S. used to be an alcoholic...

I'm sure he was able to function at his job too.

And let me remind people that pot is illegal... will you learn this in law school?

Yea its illegal. Your point being?

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 02:44 PM
Honestly its not the reason, at least not by itself. If it was I wouldn't be working for one of the largest banks in the country and possibly about to start law school in August. I go through an oz in about a week, and still I'm able to function at my job and nobody in my family knows I smoke. Those people you're talking about just sound like they weren't ready to grow up and their parents didn't push them out so they were just content with their lives as is.
get back to me once you have finished law school and have become a successful lawyer all while smoking an oz a week still...

if you can accomplish that then you got me...but the fact that you work at a ban and are able to hide it from your parents means jack sh*t to me...

when you wake up in the morning what is the first thing you think about?....What is your motivation for the day?.....If you smoke an oz a week then I would say your main goal for the day is to get high...do you honestly think that smoking an oz a week is completely harmless???

I bet that if you had never smoked there would be no "possibly" in your sentence about law school...it would be a for sure

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 02:47 PM
Yea its illegal. Your point being?
I am sure his point was that the guy is studing law...

anyway the fact that it is illegal was a huge problem for my ex....she could never keep a job andd was constantly fired due to random drug tests....and yes she was able to get a college degree while smoking...but she can't keep a job because of it...

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 02:47 PM
Yea its illegal. Your point being?


2LeTTeRS can also get back to me when he passes every p!ss test, and is never f*cked with by the cops.

It puts people in bad legal situations... it's good for lawyers I guess.

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:11 PM
get back to me once you have finished law school and have become a successful lawyer all while smoking an oz a week still...

if you can accomplish that then you got me...but the fact that you work at a ban and are able to hide it from your parents means jack sh*t to me...

when you wake up in the morning what is the first thing you think about?....What is your motivation for the day?.....If you smoke an oz a week then I would say your main goal for the day is to get high...do you honestly think that smoking an oz a week is completely harmless???

When I wake up in the morning the first thing I think is, "I hope my girl gives up the goodies before work." I don't go to work blazed, Thats a no-no I'd be obvious even if I used visine because the smell gets into you're fingers. And as a drinker, I don't even understand how you're coming at me on some holier than thou tip. Fix your issues first then come at me.


I bet that if you had never smoked there would be no "possibly" in your sentence about law school...it would be a for sure

Wrong again. I started smoking during my sophomore year and at that time my grades increased. They only went down after my mom had to have knee replacement surgery and school stopped being a priority for me. Don't judge me when you don't know me.

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:13 PM
I am sure his point was that the guy is studing law...

anyway the fact that it is illegal was a huge problem for my ex....she could never keep a job andd was constantly fired due to random drug tests....and yes she was able to get a college degree while smoking...but she can't keep a job because of it...

Thats her fault. Why would you work somewhere that randomly tests and keep on smoking? Every time I've gotten a job I've known there policy on testing just by asking around.

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 03:18 PM
Thats her fault. Why would you work somewhere that randomly tests and keep on smoking? Every time I've gotten a job I've known there policy on testing just by asking around.

And it will be your fault when you are aressted for having an oz of weed. Oh well, atleast you'll have a good lawyer.

and technichally... You are driving under the influence several days after you've smoked... so if you wreck and kill someone... you better hope they don't take a sample of your blood.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 03:20 PM
When I wake up in the morning the first thing I think is, "I hope my girl gives up the goodies before work." I don't go to work blazed, Thats a no-no I'd be obvious even if I used visine because the smell gets into you're fingers. And as a drinker, I don't even understand how you're coming at me on some holier than thou tip. Fix your issues first then come at me.
I am not trying to come off as "holier than thou"....what I do is irrevelant here....in fact I could be an everyday pot smoker myself and still state my stance that it is bad for you...

drinking is worse....and this is the 4th time I have said it in the thread

and as a drinker (who is drinking less than usual these days btw) let me add that at least I am able to come forward and admitt that what i am doing is bad...

Wrong again. I started smoking during my sophomore year and at that time my grades increased. They only went down after my mom had to have knee replacement surgery and school stopped being a priority for me. Don't judge me when you don't know me.
again it is imppossible to say where are what you would be doing right now had you never smoked weed before...and I am not judging you I am just stating my opinions onn what smoking an oz a day will do to you..

do you really think you will be able to keep that up all the way through law school/job/family/kids/ect...????

at some point in time you are going to be forced to put down the pipe for one night....if you want to move on anyway.

InspiredLebowski
06-09-2008, 03:23 PM
I don't get how weed can preoccupy someone's entire life. It doesn't make sense to me. I smoked every day for probably five years, I still do every so often, but my crowd doesn't do it as often so I don't, not much fun for me to get high by myself. I just never had that "man I gotta get high" feeling.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 03:24 PM
Thats her fault. Why would you work somewhere that randomly tests and keep on smoking? Every time I've gotten a job I've known there policy on testing just by asking around.
jesus christ...

it is her fault that they drug test????

not her fault that she smokes????

THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND BS EXCUSES THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT....

it is never YOUR FAULT....or the POT...always something else.




1. this would never be a problem for her if she simply didn't smoke....

2. you have just proved that one of the things that makes pot bad is the fact that you have to work around the system to find jobs that don't drug test....

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 03:29 PM
I am not trying to come off as "holier than thou"....what I do is irrevelant here....in fact I could be an everyday pot smoker myself and still state my stance that it is bad for you...

drinking is worse....and this is the 4th time I have said it in the thread

and as a drinker (who is drinking less than usual these days btw) let me add that at least I am able to come forward and admitt that what i am doing is bad...

again it is imppossible to say where are what you would be doing right now had you never smoked weed before...and I am not judging you I am just stating my opinions onn what smoking an oz a day will do to you..

do you really think you will be able to keep that up all the way through law school/job/family/kids/ect...????

at some point in time you are going to be forced to put down the pipe for one night....if you want to move on anyway.


Like I said earlier in this thread... Let them walk down that path... They won't understand until they are older.

I used to defend weed and alcohol when I was younger too... It takes time to figure out what kind of f*cked up situations pot and alcohol can put you in.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4116/potsmokingnyu5.jpg

i just googled pot smoker... BTW.

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:30 PM
And it will be your fault when you are aressted for having an oz of weed. Oh well, atleast you'll have a good lawyer.

and technichally... You are driving under the influence several days after you've smoked... so if you wreck and kill someone... you better hope they don't take a sample of your blood.

In NC its not illegal to drive under the influence of marijuana.


I am not trying to come off as "holier than thou"....what I do is irrevelant here....in fact I could be an everyday pot smoker myself and still state my stance that it is bad for you...

drinking is worse....and this is the 4th time I have said it in the thread

and as a drinker (who is drinking less than usual these days btw) let me add that at least I am able to come forward and admitt that what i am doing is bad...

I will admit that I haven't read the whole thread so my bad on that. I just have a hard time because it seems like people look down on you as soon as you say you smoke. Its like they have a picture of us all as lazy potheads and thats not the truth. Not for me at least.


again it is imppossible to say where are what you would be doing right now had you never smoked weed before...and I am not judging you I am just stating my opinions onn what smoking an oz a day will do to you..

do you really think you will be able to keep that up all the way through law school/job/family/kids/ect...????

at some point in time you are going to be forced to put down the pipe for one night....if you want to move on anyway.

I'm 23 no I don't plan to smoke forever. I mean who does that? Its something I do but it doesnt define me. Eventually I'll stop. I know its "bad." I don't have a deadline or anything set but I'll be ok. Thanks for the concern though I guess.

Hawker
06-09-2008, 03:31 PM
Like I said earlier in this thread... Let them walk down that path... They won't understand until they are older.

I used to defend weed and alcohol when I was younger too... It takes time to figure out what kind of f*cked up situations pot and alcohol can put you in.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4116/potsmokingnyu5.jpg

i just googled pot smoker... BTW.

lol...thats better than a gatorade bottle

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 03:34 PM
Like I said earlier in this thread... Let them walk down that path... They won't understand until they are older.

I used to defend weed and alcohol when I was younger too... It takes time to figure out what kind of f*cked up situations pot and alcohol can put you in.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4116/potsmokingnyu5.jpg

i just googled pot smoker... BTW.
lol....thanks for adding to the sterio type that all video gamers are pot heads :oldlol:

well I guess there is some truth to it....I have heard the Hard Line reffer to the "PlayStation Pot Head Crowd" alot...

Grandma's Boy didn't help that steriotype either...

It has gotten to the point where you would think that you get a free quarter bag of hydro when you preorder Halo 3....:oldlol:

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:35 PM
jesus christ...

it is her fault that they drug test????

not her fault that she smokes????

THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND BS EXCUSES THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT....

it is never YOUR FAULT....or the POT...always something else.




1. this would never be a problem for her if she simply didn't smoke....

2. you have just proved that one of the things that makes pot bad is the fact that you have to work around the system to find jobs that don't drug test....

No its her fault that she smoked somewhere that drug tests randomly. Answer me this if you had a job that randomly tested for alchohol would you drink? No. Neither would I. Re-read my post and you'll see I said its her fault that she continued smoking while working at a job that drug tests randomly. Any real smoker learns the testing habits of their job, and changes their actions to adjust. I'm not placing the blame on the job, I'm putting it on her for not doing her research.

Hawker
06-09-2008, 03:43 PM
No its her fault that she smoked somewhere that drug tests randomly. Answer me this if you had a job that randomly tested for alchohol would you drink? No. Neither would I. Re-read my post and you'll see I said its her fault that she continued smoking while working at a job that drug tests randomly. Any real smoker learns the testing habits of their job, and changes their actions to adjust. I'm not placing the blame on the job, I'm putting it on her for not doing her research.

She shouldnt have been smoking. Plain and simple.

Alcohol drains from your system a hell of a lot faster than weed so it's not really the same thing.

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 03:44 PM
No its her fault that she smoked somewhere that drug tests randomly. Answer me this if you had a job that randomly tested for alchohol would you drink? No. Neither would I. Re-read my post and you'll see I said its her fault that she continued smoking while working at a job that drug tests randomly. Any real smoker learns the testing habits of their job, and changes their actions to adjust. I'm not placing the blame on the job, I'm putting it on her for not doing her research.

So we should leagalize it because there is obviously nothing wrong with smoking pot in your opinion.


http://www.everlastinglife.net/health_tips/HealthHazard.gif

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm 23 no I don't plan to smoke forever. I mean who does that? Its something I do but it doesnt define me. Eventually I'll stop. I know its "bad." I don't have a deadline or anything set but I'll be ok. Thanks for the concern though I guess.
I think that is the exact mindset I had when I was 23...

let me tell you this....when you turn 30, you will see "who does that". It will be your buddy that still works a crap job and either lives in a crappy little apartment that he can barely afford and is splitting with another pot head or he is still living at home with his mom...

and the entire time he he will tell you that pot isn't the problem, he just had some unlucky events in life...

there are literally millions of people 30+ in age that still smoke weed everyday....it happens, trust me....in fact it is one of the main excuses pot use to keep smoking...

blackout
06-09-2008, 03:46 PM
I only do hookah..

http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/Belmont_HS/tkm/Pics/Hookah/hookah.gif

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:49 PM
So we should leagalize it because there is obviously nothing wrong with smoking pot in your opinion.


http://www.everlastinglife.net/health_tips/HealthHazard.gif

Not sure how the arguement got here, but yes in my opionion we should legalize it. Unfortunately thast something that probably won't happen during my lifetime, but from comparing it to alchohol I see no reason for it to be outlawed. Using marijuana you will not harm anyone but yourself, where with people who drink and drive are a hazard to us all, and the long term affects are much tamer.

And where did I say there was nothing wrong with smoking?

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:54 PM
I think that is the exact mindset I had when I was 23...

let me tell you this....when you turn 30, you will see "who does that". It will be your buddy that still works a crap job and either lives in a crappy little apartment that he can barely afford and is splitting with another pot head or he is still living at home with his mom...

and the entire time he he will tell you that pot isn't the problem, he just had some unlucky events in life...

there are literally millions of people 30+ in age that still smoke weed everyday....it happens, trust me....in fact it is one of the main excuses pot use to keep smoking...

Well let me rephrase. I know a few myself that still smoke, but personally I don't see myself smoking at this pace at 30. Its not a priority for me, and in bad financial times I've cut down or stopped before. When I have an actual family to raise I'm sure I will smoke even less or stop altogether.

The only reason I do so much now is because my girl does too and with the strain from working (both fresh out of college) and the cost of gas and everything else its more relaxing and less expensive to chill in the house and cook ourselves dinner than to go out.

Lil Bibby
06-09-2008, 03:57 PM
Not sure how the arguement got here, but yes in my opionion we should legalize it. Unfortunately thast something that probably won't happen during my lifetime, but from comparing it to alchohol I see no reason for it to be outlawed. Using marijuana you will not harm anyone but yourself, where with people who drink and drive are a hazard to us all, and the long term affects are much tamer.

And where did I say there was nothing wrong with smoking?

okay... that's cool.

What age limit... 18?

2LeTTeRS
06-09-2008, 03:58 PM
okay... that's cool.

What age limit... 18?

Nah 21. I feel it should be governed exactly like alchohol.

playtetris
06-09-2008, 09:39 PM
So we should leagalize it because there is obviously nothing wrong with smoking pot in your opinion.


http://www.everlastinglife.net/health_tips/HealthHazard.gif

where did you get this?
b/c a lot of this info is flat out wrong

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 09:43 PM
where did you get this?
b/c a lot of this info is flat out wrong
what parts?

playtetris
06-09-2008, 09:59 PM
what parts?

brain and central nervous system... the "chemical addiction", clogged synapses, etc

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 10:04 PM
brain and central nervous system... the "chemical addiction", clogged synapses, etc
I will be honest...

I have never heard of weed giving people any kind of physical addiction...

it will give you a mental addiction though....and there are AA type groups for smokers that can't quit...they feel that they just can't make it through the day without smoking...


but yeah...you're right, that is the first time I have heard that.


uhhh....what is "clogged synapses"...I have never heard of that before...???

Kumo
06-09-2008, 11:09 PM
brain and central nervous system... the "chemical addiction", clogged synapses, etc

How the hell do you know if this information is incorrect?

I know a lot of stoners at my school. . . .and none of them live up to any potential they once had. Some do okay in school, but they are not like a normal kid. Like someone previously said, they're dull. Not as sharp as others, and its not natural.

Legality - Pot is obviously bad for you. It is known that alcohol and cigarettes are bad for you, but alcohol, in moderation is good for you. Cigarettes are bad for you, but they do not alter your state of mind. In order to get any effect a pot-smoker is looking for, you have to damage your body, and alter your state of mind. And the argument that "alcohol and cigarettes are bad for you, and legal, so weed should be too" is ridiculous. Because they are bad, its not an excuse to do more damage.

Accomplishments - Obviously, if you are spending any time doing drugs, doing damage to your body, spending money on this ****, and hiding it, you are affecting more important things in life. Like Primetime said, you never know how you would turn out without weed, and the truth is you would probably be a better individual.

Its the dumbest argument to make, that weed is okay to smoke. By saying this, you are saying its okay to be a drunk, to be a shop-lifter, to be a chain-smoker, to disrespect the law. Wake up stoners.

DeuceWallaces
06-09-2008, 11:14 PM
Like I said earlier in this thread... Let them walk down that path... They won't understand until they are older.

I used to defend weed and alcohol when I was younger too... It takes time to figure out what kind of f*cked up situations pot and alcohol can put you in.

People make poor decisions and get into bad situations, not drugs and alcohol.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:16 PM
People make poor decisions and get into bad situations, not drugs and alcohol.
drugs and alcohol obviously play a key role in people's ability to make a good or bad decision...

Poseidon
06-09-2008, 11:21 PM
OP looks like an immature, goofy little dipsh!t who still borrows $$$ from mom and dad. Please don't pro create.

catzhernandez
06-09-2008, 11:22 PM
OP looks like an immature, goofy little dipsh!t who still borrows $$$ from mom and dad. Please don't pro create.

:cheers:

BULLZ
06-09-2008, 11:24 PM
I post while high.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:25 PM
How the hell do you know if this information is incorrect?

I know a lot of stoners at my school. . . .and none of them live up to any potential they once had. Some do okay in school, but they are not like a normal kid. Like someone previously said, they're dull. Not as sharp as others, and its not natural.

Legality - Pot is obviously bad for you. It is known that alcohol and cigarettes are bad for you, but alcohol, in moderation is good for you. Cigarettes are bad for you, but they do not alter your state of mind. In order to get any effect a pot-smoker is looking for, you have to damage your body, and alter your state of mind. And the argument that "alcohol and cigarettes are bad for you, and legal, so weed should be too" is ridiculous. Because they are bad, its not an excuse to do more damage.

Accomplishments - Obviously, if you are spending any time doing drugs, doing damage to your body, spending money on this ****, and hiding it, you are affecting more important things in life. Like Primetime said, you never know how you would turn out without weed, and the truth is you would probably be a better individual.

Its the dumbest argument to make, that weed is okay to smoke. By saying this, you are saying its okay to be a drunk, to be a shop-lifter, to be a chain-smoker, to disrespect the law. Wake up stoners.

alcohol and pot are very similiar in some ways...

(alcohol is worse don't get me wrong but hear me out)

-both if used in moderation are somewhat harmless for the most part...social drinkers can live long healthy lives as well as peopple who toke once a week...

-both if used on a daily basis are very capable of ruining your life...alcohol will literally kill you and pot will also kill you but not in the literal sense...it will destroy your life completely if you continue to use it day in and day out...very similiar to the way a old drunken bum is....only you are an old high bum...


I will say that alcohol is a much more dangerous drug to tangle with than pot....and that is just due to the fact that you can easily kill someone and spend your life in jail....or kill yourself and your loved ones.....ruining you and everyone attached to you...

but make no mistake about it....weed is very capable of ruining people's lifes....I have seen it first hand and when I was younger I thought the same as most in here defending it. "i will slow down eventually"..."i'm doing just fine in school"...ect....the truth is that I know alot of people that are not able to get out of it....it is a habit that they are so used to that they don't want to change that part of thier life...

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:26 PM
I post while high.
:oldlol:

thus the short, lazy, unmotivated post...

catzhernandez
06-09-2008, 11:26 PM
I post while high.
BULLZ is starting to grown on me.

Repped.

BULLZ
06-09-2008, 11:29 PM
:oldlol:

thus the short, lazy, unmotivated post...


uhh.....i'm motivated

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:31 PM
uhh.....i'm motivated
:oldlol:

ok....repped

gts
06-09-2008, 11:39 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/14o84t5.gif
...

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:40 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/14o84t5.gif
...
LMAO!!!

:oldlol:

catzhernandez
06-09-2008, 11:43 PM
:roll::roll:

Whats with the obsession with me? goddam.

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:46 PM
:roll::roll:

Whats with the obsession with me? goddam.
like you didn't know this was gonna happen posting pics like that....

those pics are going to come up sometime in the future as well...beware




also I hope you don't plan on running for Mayor in the future...:oldlol:

catzhernandez
06-09-2008, 11:46 PM
like you didn't know this was gonna happen posting pics like that....

those pics are going to come up sometime in the future as well...beware




also I hope you don't plan on running for Mayor in the future...:oldlol:
lol, dammit. now what will i do?

Kumo
06-09-2008, 11:53 PM
alcohol and pot are very similiar in some ways...

(alcohol is worse don't get me wrong but hear me out)

-both if used in moderation are somewhat harmless for the most part...social drinkers can live long healthy lives as well as peopple who toke once a week...

-both if used on a daily basis are very capable of ruining your life...alcohol will literally kill you and pot will also kill you but not in the literal sense...it will destroy your life completely if you continue to use it day in and day out...very similiar to the way a old drunken bum is....only you are an old high bum...


I will say that alcohol is a much more dangerous drug to tangle with than pot....and that is just due to the fact that you can easily kill someone and spend your life in jail....or kill yourself and your loved ones.....ruining you and everyone attached to you...

but make no mistake about it....weed is very capable of ruining people's lifes....I have seen it first hand and when I was younger I thought the same as most in here defending it. "i will slow down eventually"..."i'm doing just fine in school"...ect....the truth is that I know alot of people that are not able to get out of it....it is a habit that they are so used to that they don't want to change that part of thier life...

Yeah, but a glass of wine is good for you. A joint isnt good for you. Also, if you have a couple glasses, or beers, it won't affect your thought process. But pot, you only smoke to alter your thought process, and thats why its so dangerous. So they can be similar, when you compare a drunk to a stoner, but for the most part, they aren't. I know how bad alcohol is, my Mom is an alcoholic and it sucks. She's in AA now, and shes off the booze, but the damage is still done.

Oh and by the way, who is that in your avatar? (maybe a really dumb question?)

-primetime-
06-09-2008, 11:58 PM
Yeah, but a glass of wine is good for you. A joint isnt good for you. Also, if you have a couple glasses, or beers, it won't affect your thought process. But pot, you only smoke to alter your thought process, and thats why its so dangerous. So they can be similar, when you compare a drunk to a stoner, but for the most part, they aren't. I know how bad alcohol is, my Mom is an alcoholic and it sucks. She's in AA now, and shes off the booze, but the damage is still done.

Oh and by the way, who is that in your avatar? (maybe a really dumb question?)
true...

glass of wine > joint

and I am glad to hear your mother got sober....that is good, I am sure whatever damage that she may have caused you growing up can be fixed though....it might be hard, but alot of things can be fixed...(not that I know what happened, I am just assuming you mean physical or mental abuse)


that would be Deion "primetime" Sanders...the greatest "pure" athlete to ever play proffesional sports...



btw...speaking of Deion....his father was an abusive alcoholic....and because of it he claims that he has never had a sip of alcohol in his life...

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 12:00 AM
lol, dammit. now what will i do?
post more pics ???

sounds like fun to me...

Kumo
06-10-2008, 12:08 AM
true...

glass of wine > joint

and I am glad to hear your mother got sober....that is good, I am sure whatever damage that she may have caused you growing up can be fixed though....it might be hard, but alot of things can be fixed...(not that I know what happened, I am just assuming you mean physical or mental abuse)


that would be Deion "primetime" Sanders...the greatest "pure" athlete to ever play proffesional sports...



btw...speaking of Deion....his father was an abusive alcoholic....and because of it he claims that he has never had a sip of alcohol in his life...

No abuse...but just a crappy situation in a lot of ways, and yeah, I plan to not drink alcohol because I have seen the effects of abusing it.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 12:18 AM
No abuse...but just a crappy situation in a lot of ways, and yeah, I plan to not drink alcohol because I have seen the effects of abusing it.
cool....much respect for that

gts
06-10-2008, 01:02 AM
:roll::roll:

Whats with the obsession with me? goddam.lol you're the only one to post a pic of yourself...

B-Low
06-10-2008, 01:50 AM
http://i29.tinypic.com/14o84t5.gif
...

:roll:

I'm sorry Catz but that's hilarious

jbot
06-10-2008, 01:58 AM
http://i29.tinypic.com/14o84t5.gif

you had that coming, catz. :D

playtetris
06-10-2008, 03:08 AM
uhhh....what is "clogged synapses"...I have never heard of that before...???

neither have i... that's why it strikes me as being odd. it does impact upon brain chemistry, but clogged synapses? i've never read that. to my knowledge, THC (active ingredient in weed) binds to the cannabinoid receptors in our brains, rather than flooding the synapses. interesting fact: we actually have naturally occuring (or endogenous) cannabinoids similar in structure to THC in our brains.


How the hell do you know if this information is incorrect?

I know a lot of stoners at my school. . . .and none of them live up to any potential they once had. Some do okay in school, but they are not like a normal kid. Like someone previously said, they're dull. Not as sharp as others, and its not natural.

Legality - Pot is obviously bad for you. It is known that alcohol and cigarettes are bad for you, but alcohol, in moderation is good for you. Cigarettes are bad for you, but they do not alter your state of mind. In order to get any effect a pot-smoker is looking for, you have to damage your body, and alter your state of mind. And the argument that "alcohol and cigarettes are bad for you, and legal, so weed should be too" is ridiculous. Because they are bad, its not an excuse to do more damage.

because i've read widely on the topic. i study psychology, have done a few courses on neurophysiology and d&a abuse. none of them have stated anything even remotely similar to what that diagram mentions.

ps. cigarettes do actually alter your state of mind, but in a different way. nicotine actually serves as an agonist in neuronal action in the prefrontal cortex, leading to enhanced learning and memory. this is offset by the detrimental effects on health, though.

pethuel03
06-10-2008, 04:11 AM
http://i29.tinypic.com/14o84t5.gif




:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:party: :party: :party:

2LeTTeRS
06-10-2008, 09:23 AM
Yeah, but a glass of wine is good for you. A joint isnt good for you. Also, if you have a couple glasses, or beers, it won't affect your thought process. But pot, you only smoke to alter your thought process, and thats why its so dangerous. So they can be similar, when you compare a drunk to a stoner, but for the most part, they aren't. I know how bad alcohol is, my Mom is an alcoholic and it sucks. She's in AA now, and shes off the booze, but the damage is still done.

Oh and by the way, who is that in your avatar? (maybe a really dumb question?)

No disrespect but you come off as young and inexperienced in this post. Have you smoked before? How are you able to judge whats "good for you"? No disrespect but ask any smoker if after a long stressful day in the office or after a wreck like I had the other day taht a smoke doesn't feel like the best and most calming thing in the world.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 01:53 PM
No disrespect but you come off as young and inexperienced in this post. Have you smoked before? How are you able to judge whats "good for you"? No disrespect but ask any smoker if after a long stressful day in the office or after a wreck like I had the other day taht a smoke doesn't feel like the best and most calming thing in the world.
Hey I am sure that if I came home from work and shot up some heroine I would be relaxed as hell too...that doesn't mean it is right.

just sayin...:confusedshrug:

and yeah I agree with you though....he does come off as younger but he makes a decent point in compareing wine to weed...

either in moderation are fine...both in everyday use are bad...simple as that.

Lil Bibby
06-10-2008, 02:04 PM
both in everyday use are bad...simple as that.

Young people tend to think it's okay, because they haven't noticed the toll it takes on your mind, body, and life in general.

When you get older you realize that everyday use just isn't an option anymore... And that's when the battle of addiction comes into play.

if 2LeTTeRS is smoking an OZ a week... good luck simply giving up that lifestyle without a fight.



BUt yea... -prime- is right... every pot head that I know at the age of 30 seems to think there addiction is harmless...

2LeTTeRS
06-10-2008, 02:17 PM
Young people tend to think it's okay, because they haven't noticed the toll it takes on your mind, body, and life in general.

When you get older you realize that everyday use just isn't an option anymore... And that's when the battle of addiction comes into play.

if 2LeTTeRS is smoking an OZ a week... good luck simply giving up that lifestyle without a fight.



BUt yea... -prime- is right... every pot head that I know at the age of 30 seems to think there addiction is harmless...

How old are you? I appreciate you looking out for me and everything honestly but I'll be ok. I've pretty much cut down a little bit now though because my money is low after my car wreck and haven't had any real problems.

And no disrespect but I know my "addiction" comes with problems. I want to get a new job right now and can't really apply anywhere else until I get this out of my system or detox (and that only works for urine). Thats a major hassle, and I guarantee if I lost a job or had some other life changing event come up I'd give it up. I've already been looking up herbal substitutes as a go-between to allow me to be clean but still smoke to help me quit without going cold turkey in case I don't get in school and have to search for a career instead of a job. I have my priorities in order and trust me smoking comes way low on the list.

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 02:20 PM
Young people tend to think it's okay, because they haven't noticed the toll it takes on your mind, body, and life in general.

When you get older you realize that everyday use just isn't an option anymore... And that's when the battle of addiction comes into play.

if 2LeTTeRS is smoking an OZ a week... good luck simply giving up that lifestyle without a fight.



BUt yea... -prime- is right... every pot head that I know at the age of 30 seems to think there addiction is harmless...

Ounce a week??? Thats a lot. I doubt he does nearly that much

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 02:24 PM
How old are you? I appreciate you looking out for me and everything honestly but I'll be ok. I've pretty much cut down a little bit now though because my money is low after my car wreck and haven't had any real problems.

And no disrespect but I know my "addiction" comes with problems. I want to get a new job right now and can't really apply anywhere else until I get this out of my system or detox (and that only works for urine). Thats a major hassle, and I guarantee if I lost a job or had some other life changing event come up I'd give it up. I've already been looking up herbal substitutes as a go-between to allow me to be clean but still smoke to help me quit without going cold turkey in case I don't get in school and have to search for a career instead of a job. I have my priorities in order and trust me smoking comes way low on the list.
there are certain products that those stores sell (forget what they are called, the places that sell bongs, ect. ) that will clean out your sytem...

however...my ex's work had one drug test on her that they warned her about in advance and that was a hair test where they took hair from many different random areas on her head...and they could see her entire drug history from that...

they only way to get rid of that problem is to pull a Britney Spears and shave your head bald...which would probably come off as very obvious to them.

Lil Bibby
06-10-2008, 02:31 PM
How old are you? I appreciate you looking out for me and everything honestly but I'll be ok. I've pretty much cut down a little bit now though because my money is low after my car wreck and haven't had any real problems.


I'll be 29 in a few months... And trust me, that lifestyle isn't so easy to get away from... or atleast not for me.

It's different for everyone... and I'm looking out for CATZ,... because that picture.... nevermind. Just try not to get f*cked up... just buzzed.

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 02:34 PM
I'll be 29 in a few months... And trust me, that lifestyle isn't so easy to get away from... or atleast not for me.

It's different for everyone... and I'm looking out for CATZ,... because that picture.... nevermind. Just try not to get f*cked up... just buzzed.

Where you ever a stoner?

Lil Bibby
06-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Where you ever a stoner?

Yep... Unfortunatley.

2LeTTeRS
06-10-2008, 02:38 PM
Ounce a week??? Thats a lot. I doubt he does nearly that much

Unfortunately my household does. I said we. Used to be my, my girl, and my cousin (yall might remember hearing about him, I made a thread about that a couple months back). Now with it just being me and my girl a 1/2 lasts about 5-6 days, so I'd say an oz every 10-12 days. Thats a start right?


there are certain products that those stores sell (forget what they are called, the places that sell bongs, ect. ) that will clean out your sytem...

however...my ex's work had one drug test on her that they warned her about in advance and that was a hair test where they took hair from many different random areas on her head...and they could see her entire drug history from that...

they only way to get rid of that problem is to pull a Britney Spears and shave your head bald...which would probably come off as very obvious to them.

Yea you're right I have a few of those on stash at my house. The reason I'm comfortable doing what I do now is my job dosen't do random tests just one when you're first hired.

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 02:39 PM
Yep... Unfortunatley.

And how long? What made you stop/when did you stop? Did you smoke everyday?

Just curious

High Potential
06-10-2008, 02:40 PM
I like how no one else in this thread posted "pics of themselves getting blazed"

:roll: :roll: :roll:

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 02:41 PM
Unfortunately my household does. I said we. Used to be my, my girl, and my cousin (yall might remember hearing about him, I made a thread about that a couple months back). Now with it just being me and my girl a 1/2 lasts about 4-5 days, so I'd say an oz every 8-10 days.

.


Ohh, I thought you smoked an ounce on your own per week. Splitting it up is diff. What do you smoke then, blunts/joints all the time? Bc those are the ones htat waste the most weed

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 02:41 PM
I like how no one else in this thread posted "pics of themselves getting blazed"

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You saw what happened to cats:lol

Lil Bibby
06-10-2008, 02:51 PM
And how long? What made you stop/when did you stop? Did you smoke everyday?

Just curious

I started when I was like 15... and had a few times in my life where it was everyday habit...

Then around the age of 25 it just got old and I started not to enjoy it anymore.

After awhile I would take a few hits here and there,... but now I'm done with it all together.

Alcohol and cigs are my addictions now... And those are tuff to kick.
But I have friends that just smoke weed and don't drink,... and they can't stop smoking weed because they are addicted.

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 02:54 PM
I started when I was like 15... and had a few times in my life where it was everyday habit...

Then around the age of 25 it just got old and I started not to enjoy it anymore.

After awhile I would take a few hits here and there,... but now I'm done with it all together.

Alcohol and cigs are my addictions now... And those are tuff to kick.
But I have friends that just smoke weed and don't drink,... and they can't stop smoking weed because they are addicted.

Cigz for me was much more difficult to stop than weed. Weed is not a physical addicition, moreso mental and habit addiction. Cigz though were tough for me. I musta quit 100 times b4 I actually did

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Cigz for me was much more difficult to stop than weed. Weed is not a physical addicition, moreso mental and habit addiction. Cigz though were tough for me. I musta quit 100 times b4 I actually did
how did you finally accomplish that...???

I am trying right now...

damn near impossible.....esp if you drink

v-unit
06-10-2008, 02:58 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/11tq4ba.jpg

Kumo
06-10-2008, 03:08 PM
I disagree. Are you saying beer doesn't affect your thought process and alter your judgment? pretty sure that is a side effect. A joint will get you high, but you won't lose your judgment. Cannabis is a lot better for you than alcohol.

No, one beer will barely affect anything. If you abuse it, then yes...it alters your though process. I am not assuming everyone who drinks abuses the substance, while with drugs, you have to alter your state of mind to get any affect that you want from it.

2LeTTeRS
06-10-2008, 03:19 PM
No, one beer will barely affect anything. If you abuse it, then yes...it alters your though process. I am not assuming everyone who drinks abuses the substance, while with drugs, you have to alter your state of mind to get any affect that you want from it.

Not true. Again have you smoked before? You can go from zooted (just a little buzz, where you jsut feel a little calm and some get giggly), to being to the point that you're about to pass out.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 04:21 PM
Not true. Again have you smoked before? You can go from zooted (just a little buzz, where you jsut feel a little calm and some get giggly), to being to the point that you're about to pass out.
funny...

here in Dallas the term "zooted" mean you just did a couple lines of coke...

funkylikemonkey
06-10-2008, 05:10 PM
For all you stoners...a 1.6 gram bong hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cUmQ_3lRbY

Skywalker
06-10-2008, 05:20 PM
look at the guy who did it, what a cool guy!

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 05:22 PM
For all you stoners...a 1.6 gram bong hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cUmQ_3lRbY

lol all by himself in his mothers basement

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 05:29 PM
lol all by himself in his mothers basement
with an enormous bong collection behind him...

now imagine what this guy could have become had he never become a stoner...

this example is is much more extreme than what I was talking about but you can clearly see that weed has pretty much ruined that guy's life...

there is no chance of getting through law school for him...

his best hope in life is that is family leaves him a ton of money behind when they die so that he is able to retire and smoke away all day long...

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 05:40 PM
with an enormous bong collection behind him...

now imagine what this guy could have become had he never become a stoner...

this example is is much more extreme than what I was talking about but you can clearly see that weed has pretty much ruined that guy's life...

there is no chance of getting through law school for him...

his best hope in life is that is family leaves him a ton of money behind when they die so that he is able to retire and smoke away all day long...

I would blame him, not weed. You have the power to but down the bong, and its his weak mentality that has allowed weed to consume his life.

No one knows what he could have become. But I would blame his mentality before blaming weed. Im am not saying weed did not have an effect on his life. I repeat, I am not saying this. But this is not just weed that screwed him over. He likely was not motivated to achieve higher goals in his life, then started smoking, and then became who he is.

I will say however that a weak mind + weed is a horrible combo. But I dont think weed just transformed him into a bum. Im sure he was already a bum before it, and weed just made it 100x worse

funkylikemonkey
06-10-2008, 06:38 PM
The answer to everything is moderation drop this law school BS, plenty of lawyers smoke weed. Everyone smokes weed, politicians, parents, teachers etc.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 06:42 PM
The answer to everything is moderation drop this law school BS, plenty of lawyers smoke weed. Everyone smokes weed, politicians, parents, teachers etc.
name one millionare that isn't a rock star or in hollywood that gets high everyday please???

or pro athlete...lol

ihatetimthomas
06-10-2008, 06:45 PM
True story I forgot to mention. A couple years back, one of my friends used to work for this lawyer. He ran errands for him, kept up his house when he was out, etc. While cleaning his house he came across a drawer with about 2 ounces and a piece in it. And this guy was very rich, nice ass house and a respectable lawyer. People are different, its up to you to obtain the goals in your life

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 06:49 PM
True story I forgot to mention. A couple years back, one of my friends used to work for this lawyer. He ran errands for him, kept up his house when he was out, etc. While cleaning his house he came across a drawer with about 2 ounces and a piece in it. And this guy was very rich, nice ass house and a respectable lawyer. People are different, its up to you to obtain the goals in your life
lawyers are the devil...

they put people in jail that they know are innocent and the get murderers free even they they know they are guilty, (see O.J.)

so it certainly is very believable that they would be drug users as well...

other than the big time famous ones....I don't believe for a second that anyone who defended O.J. smokes weed...

Remix
06-10-2008, 06:53 PM
name one millionare that isn't a rock star or in hollywood that gets high everyday please???

or pro athlete...lol
like a business man or someone like that?

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 06:53 PM
like a business man or someone like that?
yes...

Trump

Gates

Dell

Cuban

Remix
06-10-2008, 06:54 PM
yes...

Trump

Gates

Dell

Cuban
well, i think it's safe to say that some people like that DO smoke weed on a regular basis. but, none of them would ever admit it due to losing their jobs...

Cannonball
06-10-2008, 07:07 PM
name one millionare that isn't a rock star or in hollywood that gets high everyday please???

or pro athlete...lol
Odom

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:11 PM
You think people like Jerry Jones load up a bowl after they finalize a deal with T.O. ???

successful people in the business world don't get high...(not 99% of them anyway)

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:11 PM
name one millionare that isn't a rock star or in hollywood that gets high everyday please???

or pro athlete...lol
:sleeping

WHY? Is that gonna change your mind?

No, I didn't think so.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:13 PM
:sleeping

WHY? Is that gonna change your mind?

No, I didn't think so.
sure it could...

prove to me that 5% of the Forbes top 100 list get high...

and it will change my vews...

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:19 PM
sure it could...

prove to me that 5% of the Forbes top 100 list get high...

and it will change my vews...


Are you kidding me? Of course 5 out of the top 100 on Forbes get high.

5%? That's all you want? I can all but guarantee they do. More than 5% of the general population gets high, so why would this be any different? It's not.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:22 PM
Are you kidding me? Of course 5 out of the top 100 on Forbes get high.

5%? That's all you want? I can all but guarantee they do. More than 5% of the general population gets high, so why would this be any different? It's not.
are you kidding me?


the reason they are in the top 100 is because they don't spend all day getting high....they spend thier time making deals over thier cell phone...

Trump was once quoted as saying he spends 8 hours a day on the phone...do you think he is puffing a blunt while he does that???

if you are so sure that 5% of them do then please list a few...

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:31 PM
Why do you continue to list the same 3 or 4 people as examples?

Okay, Donald Trump may or may not smoke, I really don't care. And I'm not gonna go through the whole Forbes' list to find you 5 examples of who I THINK could be a stoner, or a former stoner.

How the f*ck am I supposed to know this?! All I'm saying is that there's a pretty good chance that 5 out of ANY 100 people are gonna be stoners or fairly regular users. How is that so hard to wrap your mind around?

5 out of 100 is just such a small percentage...

poorlilrich
06-10-2008, 07:34 PM
Lol

has anyone else posted a pic of themselves getting stoned?

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Why do you continue to list the same 3 or 4 people as examples?

Okay, Donald Trump may or may not smoke, I really don't care. And I'm not gonna go through the whole Forbes' list to find you 5 examples of who I THINK could be a stoner, or a former stoner.

How the f*ck am I supposed to know this?! All I'm saying is that there's a pretty good chance that 5 out of ANY 100 people are gonna be stoners or fairly regular users. How is that so hard to wrap your mind around?

5 out of 100 is just such a small percentage...
BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKAHOLIC BUISINESS NUT-JOBS....NOT STONERS!!!!

what is more likely Catz...

5% of Harvard grads get blazed evey day....

or

5% of Compton residents get blazed every day...???



after you answer that question ask your self why that is...

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:35 PM
Lol

has anyone else posted a pic of themselves getting stoned?
This thread isn't even about that now.


It's about primetime wanting some sort of ridiculous proof that Donald Trump or Bill Gates is/was a stoner. He's obsessing over it at this point.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:36 PM
This thread isn't even about that now.


It's about primetime wanting some sort of ridiculous proof that Donald Trump or Bill Gates is/was a stoner. He's obsessing over it at this point.
now I am obessed with proving to you that no one in the Forbes top 100 list is a stoner...

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:40 PM
Why do you make such retarded generalizations?

You think EVERY Harvard grad is so uppity that they NEVER smoke?


Here I found a good list of 10 successful stoners.

1) Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson
Owner of the Virgin Group
Estimated Worth: $5 Billion

2) Newt Gingrich
Politician
Speaker of the House 1995-1999

3) Ross Rebagliati
Olympic Gold Medalist Snowboarder 1998

4) David Hockney
Famous Painter

5) Richard Feynman
Physicist

6) Michael Bloomberg
Mayor of New York City

7) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Top 50 Greatest Basketball Player

8) Queen Victoria
Ruled Great Britian from 1837-1901

9) Aaron Sorkin
Television writer
Creator of “West Wing”

10) Robert Smith
Former Minesota Vikings Running back

http://thefreshscent.com/2006/11/15/10-successful-marijuana-smokers/

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:42 PM
Forbes isn't even AGAINST marijuana use.

Read this article.

http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinfrastructure/2007/03/14/dope-marijuana-cannabis-biz-cz_sc_0314pot_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=15000

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:44 PM
[QUOTE=catzhernandez]Why do you make such retarded generalizations?

You think EVERY Harvard grad is so uppity that they NEVER smoke?


Here I found a good list of 10 successful stoners.

1) Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson
Owner of the Virgin Group
Estimated Worth: $5 Billion

2) Newt Gingrich
Politician
Speaker of the House 1995-1999

3) Ross Rebagliati
Olympic Gold Medalist Snowboarder 1998

4) David Hockney
Famous Painter

5) Richard Feynman
Physicist

6) Michael Bloomberg
Mayor of New York City

7) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Top 50 Greatest Basketball Player

8) Queen Victoria
Ruled Great Britian from 1837-1901

9) Aaron Sorkin
Television writer
Creator of

v-unit
06-10-2008, 07:45 PM
Business men work way to hard making money for them to stop and do something that would make them lazy.

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:45 PM
Forbes isn't even AGAINST marijuana use.

Read this article.

http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinfrastructure/2007/03/14/dope-marijuana-cannabis-biz-cz_sc_0314pot_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=15000
alright fine dude...

you win

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Business men work way to hard making money for them to stop and do something that would make them lazy.
no...

apparently Micheal Dell and Bill Gates get together and pass the bong around all day...

I was just being ignorant and never knew about it....

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:47 PM
alright fine dude...

you win
hahahahahahahahaha


no...

apparently Micheal Dell and Bill Gates get together and pass the bong around all day...

I was just being ignorant and never knew about it...

lol, you ****.

v-unit
06-10-2008, 07:50 PM
I realize there alot of people that smoke weed in the states, ALOT. But there are always those nerds that wouldn't even touch alcohol, and I'm almost certain those nerds that don't touch that stuff grow up to be those billionaires.

funkylikemonkey
06-10-2008, 07:54 PM
no...

apparently Micheal Dell and Bill Gates get together and pass the bong around all day...

I was just being ignorant and never knew about it....

This does further prove your ignorance. As if when you smoke, you have to do it constantly all day. Randy Marsh said it best, "The truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."

Sure it makes you lazy, but alcohol makes you belligerent and you're an idiot if you think that since people don't admit they smoke pot means they don't do it.

catzhernandez
06-10-2008, 07:55 PM
This does further prove your ignorance. As if when you smoke, you have to do it constantly all day. Randy Marsh said it best, "The truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."

Sure it makes you lazy, but alcohol makes you belligerent and you're an idiot if you think that since people don't admit they smoke pot means they don't do it.
funky ftw!

-primetime-
06-10-2008, 07:58 PM
This does further prove your ignorance. As if when you smoke, you have to do it constantly all day. Randy Marsh said it best, "The truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."

Sure it makes you lazy, but alcohol makes you belligerent and you're an idiot if you think that since people don't admit they smoke pot means they don't do it.
I am not talking about causal smokers....just like I am not talking abot casual drinkers...

we are talking full blown smoke every day stoners and alcoholics...

not some dude that somes a joint oncea month...



hell Bush did coke back in the day...

I am sure at some point the vast majority of the Forbes top 100 tried weed...I am just saying that NONE of them smoke weed everyday RIGHT NOW!!!!

Kumo
06-10-2008, 08:06 PM
Not true. Again have you smoked before? You can go from zooted (just a little buzz, where you jsut feel a little calm and some get giggly), to being to the point that you're about to pass out.

Yes a little buzz, do you get a buzz from one beer, or a glass of wine? No.

And no, I haven't smoked, so maybe I'm not the most qualified to discuss this topic. I'm not a slave to the public school system, and repeat everything I learn in health class, but I KNOW that weed is not good for you. In so many ways, and you arguing that since alcohol and ciggs aren't good for you either then weed is okay. If its not good for you, then don't do it. "Omg!1! But weed is natural, so its okay to usee!!" Yeah, theres a lot of poisonous **** out there thats natural also, and if we eat it we die. Does anyone think that inhaling smoke is natural? Is it natural to get dizzy and confused? Let me just say this, every person I know that does drugs is an idiot, dull, and sucks in school. Now what is there to make me believe otherwise? Some people on a basketball forum that would get high with children, and post pictures of them self getting high in an "Off the Court Lounge"? No way.

DeuceWallaces
06-10-2008, 08:53 PM
drugs and alcohol obviously play a key role in people's ability to make a good or bad decision...

People make the decision to drink and smoke more than they should.

SCREWstonRockets
06-10-2008, 09:11 PM
You can't die from marijuana. Its damn near impossible to overdose off of weed. Yet, legal substances like cigs, alcohol and perscription pills kills millions of people each year.

Kumo
06-10-2008, 11:39 PM
Well....the government can't regulate how you harm your body, thats totally your choice. What they can regulate is any substance that puts you under the influence, because then you risk putting other citizens lives at danger. It doesn't matter if you damage your body, as far as regulation goes.

2LeTTeRS
06-11-2008, 12:11 AM
Yes a little buzz, do you get a buzz from one beer, or a glass of wine? No.

Yes you do.


And no, I haven't smoked, so maybe I'm not the most qualified to discuss this topic. I'm not a slave to the public school system, and repeat everything I learn in health class, but I KNOW that weed is not good for you. In so many ways, and you arguing that since alcohol and ciggs aren't good for you either then weed is okay. If its not good for you, then don't do it. "Omg!1! But weed is natural, so its okay to usee!!" Yeah, theres a lot of poisonous **** out there thats natural also, and if we eat it we die. Does anyone think that inhaling smoke is natural? Is it natural to get dizzy and confused? Let me just say this, every person I know that does drugs is an idiot, dull, and sucks in school. Now what is there to make me believe otherwise?


Some people on a basketball forum that would get high with children, and post pictures of them self getting high in an "Off the Court Lounge"? No way.

Dizzy and confused? You think thats what weed does to you? Man stop talking about something you know nothing about.

And whose to say weed is "bad" for you, or that we must avoid all things that are considered "bad." People do "bad" things like eating fast food, speeding on the highway, or drinking a beer everyday but you're condemning weed as if its evil. I admit its illegal, but its affect to the body are nowhere near as harmful as you seem to think. And as far as you're other claims I didn't post a pic here I just saw a topic and was interested, just like you. I'm not campaining for you to smoke, if you think its something you can do without than more power to you, I'm just speaking against the stereotypes you have ingrained in you when you know nothing about the subject. I see that you disagree but reading what you're posting you sound like someone whose a slave to the public school system to me.

catzhernandez
06-11-2008, 12:15 AM
Yes you do.



Dizzy and confused? You think thats what weed does to you? Man stop talking about something you know nothing about.

And whose to say weed is "bad" for you, or that we must avoid all things that are considered "bad." People do "bad" things like eating fast food, speeding on the highway, or drinking a beer everyday but you're condemning weed as if its evil. I admit its illegal, but its affect to the body are nowhere near as harmful as you seem to think. And as far as you're other claims I didn't post a pic here I just saw a topic and was interested, just like you. I'm not campaining for you to smoke, if you think its something you can do without than more power to you, I'm just speaking against the stereotypes you have ingrained in you when you know nothing about the subject. I see that you disagree but reading what you're posting you sound like someone whose a slave to the public school system to me.
KD is so f*cking right.

But how would such an 'idiot pothead' be able to type something so well-thought, something so logical?

Baffles science, huh -primetime-?

His thoughts are more organized, rational, and put together than yours are, and he's a self-proclaimed pot-head. :oldlol:

Matter of fact, before I even knew he smoked weed, I thought that 2Letters KD was one of the best posters on the main board, and he further solidified that thought when he began posting here more. The dude's smart as hell, and well-spoken. But he smokes a lot of weed...

Kind of ironic.

d_white089
06-11-2008, 12:41 AM
will this thread please end.

Kumo
06-11-2008, 12:53 AM
Yes you do.



Dizzy and confused? You think thats what weed does to you? Man stop talking about something you know nothing about.

And whose to say weed is "bad" for you, or that we must avoid all things that are considered "bad." People do "bad" things like eating fast food, speeding on the highway, or drinking a beer everyday but you're condemning weed as if its evil. I admit its illegal, but its affect to the body are nowhere near as harmful as you seem to think. And as far as you're other claims I didn't post a pic here I just saw a topic and was interested, just like you. I'm not campaining for you to smoke, if you think its something you can do without than more power to you, I'm just speaking against the stereotypes you have ingrained in you when you know nothing about the subject. I see that you disagree but reading what you're posting you sound like someone whose a slave to the public school system to me.

Because, how many times do I need to say it?, it is not ANYONES job to regulate what you do to your body. But when you are under the influence of something, you have the possibility of putting other peoples lives at risk. And no, I don't really think schools should even touch on these subjects of drugs, alcohol, tobacco....they carry a very bias view, and when we learn about it, its like I'm trying to be brain-washed. I don't live by what school teaches me, I have my own morals, views, and beliefs. Yes, the truth is we harm our bodies daily, but the way I see it, most things harm yourself in a different way. Drugs mess with peoples brains, I don't know how to get anymore technical, but thats what I think it does personally. Cigarettes, I don't care if you mess with your lungs, thats your choice. Alcohol, same thing, you shouldn't abuse it, and if it is detrimental to your health and you drink it, I don't give two ****s. Drugs, you do drugs and dumb down society, that hurts everyone.

And I'm sorry I have not done drugs, so I don't exactly know the affects, I want to steer clear of that path, but I do know what I am talking about. And no, I haven't drunken beer, or wine, so I can't speak from experience..but..when my Dad drinks a glass of wine with dinner, I KNOW that if he lit up a joint he would not be the same person. I do not think you get buzzed from one glass/bottle. Please don't try to make an idiot out of me because I have not toyed with illegal substances.

2LeTTeRS
06-11-2008, 08:12 AM
Because, how many times do I need to say it?, it is not ANYONES job to regulate what you do to your body. But when you are under the influence of something, you have the possibility of putting other peoples lives at risk. And no, I don't really think schools should even touch on these subjects of drugs, alcohol, tobacco....they carry a very bias view, and when we learn about it, its like I'm trying to be brain-washed. I don't live by what school teaches me, I have my own morals, views, and beliefs. Yes, the truth is we harm our bodies daily, but the way I see it, most things harm yourself in a different way. Drugs mess with peoples brains, I don't know how to get anymore technical, but thats what I think it does personally. Cigarettes, I don't care if you mess with your lungs, thats your choice. Alcohol, same thing, you shouldn't abuse it, and if it is detrimental to your health and you drink it, I don't give two ****s. Drugs, you do drugs and dumb down society, that hurts everyone.

And I'm sorry I have not done drugs, so I don't exactly know the affects, I want to steer clear of that path, but I do know what I am talking about. And no, I haven't drunken beer, or wine, so I can't speak from experience..but..when my Dad drinks a glass of wine with dinner, I KNOW that if he lit up a joint he would not be the same person. I do not think you get buzzed from one glass/bottle. Please don't try to make an idiot out of me because I have not toyed with illegal substances.

I'm done man. Drugs are bad. Don't smoke ever. You've convinced me.

ihatetimthomas
06-11-2008, 11:41 AM
Because, how many times do I need to say it?, it is not ANYONES job to regulate what you do to your body. But when you are under the influence of something, you have the possibility of putting other peoples lives at risk. And no, I don't really think schools should even touch on these subjects of drugs, alcohol, tobacco....they carry a very bias view, and when we learn about it, its like I'm trying to be brain-washed. I don't live by what school teaches me, I have my own morals, views, and beliefs. Yes, the truth is we harm our bodies daily, but the way I see it, most things harm yourself in a different way. Drugs mess with peoples brains, I don't know how to get anymore technical, but thats what I think it does personally. Cigarettes, I don't care if you mess with your lungs, thats your choice. Alcohol, same thing, you shouldn't abuse it, and if it is detrimental to your health and you drink it, I don't give two ****s. Drugs, you do drugs and dumb down society, that hurts everyone.

And I'm sorry I have not done drugs, so I don't exactly know the affects, I want to steer clear of that path, but I do know what I am talking about. And no, I haven't drunken beer, or wine, so I can't speak from experience..but..when my Dad drinks a glass of wine with dinner, I KNOW that if he lit up a joint he would not be the same person. I do not think you get buzzed from one glass/bottle. Please don't try to make an idiot out of me because I have not toyed with illegal substances.

How are you going to argue side effects and compare drinking v drug experiences when you have no clue what either feel like? Good for you to never had done drugs or drank. You are not an idiot for that. You are an idiot for trying to argue about things you clearly have no experience in though. How can you compare one glass of wine to smoking a joint. Way to state the obvious your dad wouldnt be the same if he had a glass of wine to a joint. Hey its your choice in what you do and its your choice to decide not to drink/smoke. But please dont try to act like you know what you are talking about when you have never ever dealt with anything you are arguing against

catzhernandez
06-11-2008, 02:53 PM
Kumo is on the same level as starface when it comes to taking out of their asses.

Except Kumo takes himself seriously. :oldlol:

Kumo
06-11-2008, 04:17 PM
Haha, listen, I know I am not very qualified to talk, but I was just voicing my opinion. Sorry if I made enemies, its all just a debate to me, I don't take it too seriously. I understand different people have different ways of living their life, and its their choice. I know I'm sounding the exact opposite now, but I still stand by my belief that drugs are on a whole other level than alcohol and ciggs, and that they are not good for you. This whole thread has just turned into point being made over and over, and no real arguments anymore. Sorry for talking out of my ass...again, I realize I'm not qualified to argue against drugs, but I just wanted to present a different view.

2LeTTeRS
06-11-2008, 04:33 PM
Haha, listen, I know I am not very qualified to talk, but I was just voicing my opinion. Sorry if I made enemies, its all just a debate to me, I don't take it too seriously. I understand different people have different ways of living their life, and its their choice. I know I'm sounding the exact opposite now, but I still stand by my belief that drugs are on a whole other level than alcohol and ciggs, and that they are not good for you. This whole thread has just turned into point being made over and over, and no real arguments anymore. Sorry for talking out of my ass...again, I realize I'm not qualified to argue against drugs, but I just wanted to present a different view.

Nah no hard feelings. Honestly stay on that path you're on now man. Peer pressure and curiousity are both b*tches and if you can stay above them more power to you.

Hawker
07-03-2008, 11:21 AM
will this thread please end.

No.

I was in Wichita Falls visiting my friend from Texas A&M this most recent weekend and his best friend is a complete stoner who has friends who are huge stoners. My friend used to smoke a lot in high school and a few times in college but he's pretty much stayed away from it for awhile. He did it this past weekend but just cus he was with his best friend.

But damn, these guys were so pathetic. All 3 of them were no job, no money, sittin' on their asses, stoners. All they did was just sit in the living room play Halo and other video games and smoke pot. It was so pathetic. Trays lying around with seeds, stems, and blunts.

Pretty much solidified that I won't be smoking pot for the rest of my life.

These are the guys that Primetime are referring to.

Jackass18
07-03-2008, 05:41 PM
I know people who smoke all the time, are over 30 and lead productive lives. Primetime is a rather ignorant person.

i seen hippos
07-03-2008, 05:42 PM
No.

I was in Wichita Falls visiting my friend from Texas A&M this most recent weekend and his best friend is a complete stoner who has friends who are huge stoners. My friend used to smoke a lot in high school and a few times in college but he's pretty much stayed away from it for awhile. He did it this past weekend but just cus he was with his best friend.

But damn, these guys were so pathetic. All 3 of them were no job, no money, sittin' on their asses, stoners. All they did was just sit in the living room play Halo and other video games and smoke pot. It was so pathetic. Trays lying around with seeds, stems, and blunts.

Pretty much solidified that I won't be smoking pot for the rest of my life.

These are the guys that Primetime are referring to.

Can you ever post something that doesn't come off as a 15 year old nerd?

dnyk1337
07-03-2008, 05:46 PM
Can you ever post something that doesn't come off as a 15 year old nerd?

:roll: hippos strikes again... today's a slow day though. It's taking too long for time to pass.