Wow,that Kobe "steal" on Pierce was..

[Diesel J]

a clear foul:oldlol: Someone post a gif of it.Kobe reached from around Pierce and just hacked Pierce all in his ribs.Dude didn't touch the ball at all:roll:

[Sroek]

It was a clean poke.

Cry more.

[Cannonball]

a clear foul:oldlol: Someone post a gif of it.Kobe reached from around Pierce and just hacked Pierce all in his ribs.Dude didn't touch the ball at all:roll:
gif plz i couldn't tell

[Younggrease]

Wow if that is all you can complain about after that game in Boston then thats should say something

[ihatetimthomas]

Theres a game thread idiot. And laker haters ***** and moan about the retarded threads:cry: :cry:

[DuMa]

no doubt. but paul still shouldnt have lost the ball like that. it was a foul anyway

[hotsizzle]

Can someone please post a .gif of PJ Brown shoving and grabbing Gasol on every single play also?

[StroShow4]

truth, but the C's still choked (yeah that's right, i'm talking to you mr. garnett..)

they had chances and didn't get it done.

[Gevz2kX]

yes it was a foul. But that's homecourt advantage.

[DatZNasty]

I didn't think it was much, not enough to be called. Pierce just mishandled the ball knowing Kobe was going to pull a reacharound move and that he needed to extend out in front of him

[Geandily]

Wasn't a foul, and I say almost everything that Kobe does is a foul, it was a clean steal.

[Emeka Okafor xD]

he just pick pocket peirce cleanly. It was beautiful, people just saying **** cuz there upset

[Balla_Status]

Wasn't a foul, and I say almost everything that Kobe does is a foul, it was a clean steal.
Exactly. What I saw was him deflect it a bit and then brush up again him. It wasnt a hack and certainly wasnt a foul.

[juju151111]

I want to see a gif because it didn't look like he touched the ball.

[Diesel J]

I swear to god that Kobe didn't touch the ball.Someone post a gif

[fiad06]

I dont think he touched the ball either. I think they did the right thing by not calling that a foul.

[Sroek]

You're right, Pierce just magically fumbled it.

[HANNIBAL SMITH]

:oldlol: @ People wanting a foul called for that. Sh!t wasn't even all that bad. Looks like pierce was losing the ball anyway regardless of what Kobe did. Had that been Kobe getting "stripped" we would hear oh what a great defensive play that was by everyone. :rolleyes:

[crisoner]

That was a clean steal.....

gah damn......yall bunch of haters

[Da_Realist]

truth, but the C's still choked (yeah that's right, i'm talking to you mr. garnett..)

they had chances and didn't get it done.

Garnett has never been a big game player. Sort of like Karl Malone, he'll get you numbers but you can't rely on him in end-game situations.

[dawsey6]

Debatable call/no-call by Kobe. Textbook example of home cookin'.

The Celtics should've had the lead by then, though.

[NotWorthy]

I didn't think it was that bad, but I guess I'm biased. JVG called it an "old lady steal" :roll:

[Kingwillball]

Wasn't a foul, and I say almost everything that Kobe does is a foul, it was a clean steal.


U need a pair of glasses if U didn't C that was a foul. It is clear as day a foul.

[BloodyRain]

Kobe touched the ball with his fingertips first, then smacked Pierce on the side, ball first, no foul.

You people actually think he didn't touch the ball? I guess Pierce just throws the ball to Fisher magically?

[StroShow4]

Garnett has never been a big game player. Sort of like Karl Malone, he'll get you numbers but you can't rely on him in end-game situations.


yep, that pretty much sums up his career. fortunately for him he has 2 other all star caliber players on his team who are both good closers. not to mention posey, he's pretty clutch himself.

still, if KG made his 4th quarter FTs and that point blank tip in, Cs probably win the game.

[YAWN]

U need a pair of glasses if U didn't C that was a foul. It is clear as day a foul.

that play was called correctly. if they called fouls like that, each team would shoot 80 free throws a game.

[Loki]

Replay showed that Kobe got absolutely no ball on the steal. None. Zero. He hit Pierce's arm and ribs. Whether it should have been called is a different story. I'm split. On one hand it's a foul, but with everything else they let go it's tough to call that. Still, Kobe saying "I was able to get my hand on the ball" ranks way up there on the deluded comment list. :oldlol:

[Diesel J]

Replay showed that Kobe got absolutely no ball on the steal. None. Zero. He hit Pierce's arm and ribs. Whether it should have been called is a different story. I'm split. On one hand it's a foul, but with everything else they let go it's tough to call that. Still, Kobe saying "I was able to get my hand on the ball" ranks way up there on the deluded comment list. :oldlol:

:roll:

[HANNIBAL SMITH]

That was a clean steal.....

gah damn......yall bunch of haters

:oldlol: Had the situation been the opposite, people on here would be giving pierce praise on what a "great defensive" play that was. :rolleyes:

[bigkingsfan]

Gimme 10 minutes, just got home...

[Balla_Status]

Replay showed that Kobe got absolutely no ball on the steal. None. Zero. He hit Pierce's arm and ribs. Whether it should have been called is a different story. I'm split. On one hand it's a foul, but with everything else they let go it's tough to call that. Still, Kobe saying "I was able to get my hand on the ball" ranks way up there on the deluded comment list. :oldlol:
Replay showed the Kobe got ball.

[Kingwillball]

that play was called correctly. if they called fouls like that, each team would shoot 80 free throws a game.


Your wrong, maybe in the first qtr but not when the gm is on the line. A foul is a foul and that was a reach in foul. Kobe Hooked his arm around Pierce's body and hit his arm and stomach causeing him to fumble it.

[StroShow4]

Still, Kobe saying "I was able to get my hand on the ball" ranks way up there on the deluded comment list. :oldlol:

even if he didn't touch the ball, coming out and saying "i got lucky, i really fouled him" ...i think that would be foolish. the refs didn't blow the whistle, therefore he stole the ball as far as he's concerned.

[Younggrease]

Your wrong, maybe in the first qtr but not when the gm is on the line. A foul is a foul and that was a reach in foul. Kobe Hooked his arm around Pierce's body and hit his arm and stomach causeing him to fumble it.

then what about all the fouls Gasol didnt get for the first 4 1/2 games?

[Kingwillball]

Replay showed the Kobe got ball.


Somebody needs to put that replay up in here. It is a CLEAR Foul !

[YAWN]

Your wrong, maybe in the first qtr but not when the gm is on the line. A foul is a foul and that was a reach in foul. Kobe Hooked his arm around Pierce's body and hit his arm and stomach causeing him to fumble it.

you have it backwards. in the 1st quarter that may be called. in the end of the 4th it should not be.

[Diesel J]

Gimme 10 minutes, just got home...


cool.I was trying to think of the guy (you) on here that posts the gifs but I couldn't think of your name.I'll be waiting:D

[eliteballer]

He Got All Ball

[eliteballer]

Replay showed the Kobe got ball.

CLEARLY

[DTD]

It was a CLEAR foul!

If you need a slow motion, close up view, of a play to see if it's even a foul; than it's anything but "Clear."

:rolleyes:

[Balla_Status]

Somebody needs to put that replay up in here. It is a CLEAR Foul !
:oldlol:

It was not a FOUL!. Someone get the damn gif. :D

[Y2Gezee]

Im sorry, maybe Im going blind, but Kobe didn't touch that ball. When he reached around he may have tickled Pierce, may have given him a titty twister, maybe even touched the Pierce family jewels... but he didn't touch that basketball.

[bigkingsfan]

edit old gif removed

Check out the gif on next post for better clarity...

[Kingwillball]

you have it backwards. in the 1st quarter that may be called. in the end of the 4th it should not be.


When it costs a team the gm and than it should be called. IF the Celtics are up maybe swallow it but not down 2 with less than a minute left basically giving the Lakers the gm.

[DatZNasty]

I don't think Kobe touched the ball either. I think Pierce fumbled the ball as a result of knowing Kobe was about to swoop around.

I'd bet the OP is a fan of a soft team that regularly complains and expects to get calls like that.

[Geandily]

Looks clean to me


http://i29.tinypic.com/11sh8xg.jpg

[Balla_Status]

Exactly. He got ball and the brushed against Pierces body when he was bringing his arm back. That isnt a foul.

[YAWN]

When it costs a team the gm and than it should be called. IF the Celtics are up maybe swallow it but not down 2 with less than a minute left basically giving the Lakers the gm.
see the gif above..

[StroShow4]

hmm.. at first i thought it was a clear foul.. now i'm not quite sure. and if it's that close in a 4th quarter situation, tough to call.

edit: i agree with this:


I don't think Kobe touched the ball either. I think Pierce fumbled the ball as a result of knowing Kobe was about to swoop around.

[Cangri]

they showed another slow replay in the end, wish someone would put that one.

[Kingwillball]

Wilbon on ESPN just said it was a clear foul, Kobe never touched the ball but I guess that is the benefit of being home.

[RandomBalla55]

I don't think Kobe touched the ball either. I think Pierce fumbled the ball as a result of knowing Kobe was about to swoop around.

I'd bet the OP is a fan of a soft team that regularly complains and expects to get calls like that.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

I agree with the entire post.

[DTD]

That's not a foul at all.

Wilbon doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Y2Gezee]

foul. Soft foul, big foul, doesn't matter. call it.

[gts]

Im sorry, maybe Im going blind, but Kobe didn't touch that ball. When he reached around he may have tickled Pierce, may have given him a titty twister, maybe even touched the Pierce family jewels... but he didn't touch that basketball.

http://i29.tinypic.com/11sh8xg.jpg

[Balla_Status]

hmm.. at first i thought it was a clear foul.. now i'm not quite sure. and if it's that close in a 4th quarter situation, tough to call.
One guy converted. Whos next?

[YAWN]

Wilbon on ESPN just said it was a clear foul, Kobe never touched the ball but I guess that is the benefit of being home.

oh shit wilbon said it??????

****, Kobe must have actually fouled him.

How i could i ever doubt the almighty wilbon :bowdown:

[Y2Gezee]

guess Im going blind, but I still don't see it

[Gevz2kX]

http://i29.tinypic.com/11sh8xg.jpg

Kobe got his arm, jersey, and ribs. Oh well. I can't complain that much or I'd be a Laker fan.

[DTD]

Wilbon on ESPN just said it was a clear foul, Kobe never touched the ball but I guess that is the benefit of being home.

And Barry said it was a clean steal. Now that the video has been posted, you can see for yourself that it was clean.

No foul.

[DTD]

Wow, that's hilarious. I guess when you really want to see ( or don't see) something the imagination comes out. LOL

[eliteballer]

Kobe got his arm, jersey, and ribs. Oh well. I can't complain that much or I'd be a Laker fan.

He did not touch his arm you POS:roll:

[Balla_Status]

Kobe got his arm, jersey, and ribs. Oh well. I can't complain that much or I'd be a Laker fan.
Alright Stevie Wonder.

[Kingwillball]

The Video shows Kobe MAY have grazed the ball but hit Pierce in the stomach on a reach around which by definition IS a Foul. However what is done is done and the Lakers won However the Celtics are the better team and will win by double figures on Tues.

[DTD]

Kobe got his arm, jersey, and ribs. Oh well. I can't complain that much or I'd be a Laker fan.


:roll:

Where does all that happen exactly?

[Gevz2kX]

He did not touch his arm you POS:roll:

this coming from Laker fans who think Fisher didn't foul Barry :roll:

[Balla_Status]

The Video shows Kobe MAY have grazed the ball but hit Pierce in the stomach on a reach around which by definition IS a Foul. However what is done is done and the Lakers won However the Celtics are the better team and will win by double figures on Tues.
He grazed up against Pierces stomach. It was also on his way bringing his arm back.

[Balla_Status]

this coming from Laker fans who think Fisher didn't foul Barry :roll:
I'm a Suns fan that is rooting for the Celtics and I see no foul.

[bigkingsfan]

Added more frames to the gif, looks pretty clean to me...

http://i25.tinypic.com/2rfwp08.jpg

[YAWN]

Added more frames to the gif, looks pretty clean to me...

http://i25.tinypic.com/2rfwp08.jpg
yeah that one shows that its cleaner.


thanks for all these gifs :cheers:

[Diesel J]

http://i29.tinypic.com/11sh8xg.jpg

Check out the gif on next page for better clarity...

do you think you can make it brighter?It's too dark

[Balla_Status]

do you think you can make it brighter?It's too dark
:oldlol:

When you are wrong, just admit it and move on. No reason to complain about how dark teh clip is.

[bigkingsfan]

do you think you can make it brighter?It's too dark
Check out my 2nd gif, it's much better...

[DTD]

Look at the delayed flop by Pierce. He would make Ginobili proud.

[okayabc123]

y'all play basketball before, right? What Kobe did is what players always do when the defender is getting picked off and is unable to fight through the screen. The reach around is an old school move.

As for PP34, you are always taught to protect the ball when you are getting a screen, especially if you are going to do a cross over like that...

Did Kobe hit Pierce in the rib? Absolutely. But he also got a good piece of the ball too... And you wouldn't expect the Ref to call a ticky tack like that in a crucial moment of the game...especially when it's Kobe, and they are at home...

If you want to complain about the loss, blame KG for missing 2 key FT to tie the game...

[Y2Gezee]

You have to be insane to tell me that's clean. I still don't see where he got the ball, but its possible the arm is blocking that. But to say he didn't get body is nuts

[StroShow4]

Look at the delayed flop by Pierce. He would make Ginobili proud.


i think he was actually trying to change directions and chase down the loose ball.


gino would've sprawled out and gone sliding down the floor.

[eliteballer]

Look at the delayed flop by Pierce. He would make Ginobili proud.

looooooool. PP is a flopper, its confirmed.

[Fo-Rizzle]

either way ... lakers won :rockon:

[StroShow4]

paul pierce just said there was no contact, called it a great defensive play. classy response.

[DTD]

Paul: "Kobe made a great defensive play...I don't think there was any contact on the play, it was just great defense"

[Balla_Status]

You have to be insane to tell me that's clean. I still don't see where he got the ball, but its possible the arm is blocking that. But to say he didn't get body is nuts
No one is saying he didnt get his body. Its just that it was minimal and I dont think it affected the steal considering it looked like he grazed up against him after the steal. If you call contact like that a foul, then you will start seeing teams shoots 75 free throws a game.

[brandonislegend]

HAHA @ the people that think thats a foul, you watch to much WNBA, this is the NBA with grown men, he barely touched him wow theres a whole thread about this :D :D :D :D :D

[Balla_Status]

looooooool. PP is a flopper, its confirmed.
Kobe is a flopper too. Whats funny is it looks like Pierce learned how to flop from Kobe. They flop identical.

[AAP Remix]

Kobe got his arm, jersey, and ribs. Oh well. I can't complain that much or I'd be a Laker fan.

:oldlol:

[RoseCity07]

When he hand came across his body that was a foul plain and simple. There is no argument, it's called reaching. The refs didn't want to put the pressure on LA if Pierce tied the game with under a minute to go. Can you imagine the Celtics defense, they would shut down LA. Pierce could possibly hold the ball for the game winning shot in LA. Never going to see that happen.

All could have been avoided if Garnett didn't choke shooting FTs, his missed tip in, and blowing lay ups under the basket. Pierce is the only guy out there that plays with passion.

[HANNIBAL SMITH]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2rfwp08.jpg





:roll: @ People expecting a foul called for that sh!t. Come on. I could see if Kobe literally punched paul in his ribs but damn. Sh!t looks clean to me, Kobe barely tapped it and Paul tried to regain control but his fingertips just tapped it to fisher.

[RoseCity07]

Can someone please post a .gif of PJ Brown shoving and grabbing Gasol on every single play also?

Gasol is soft period. He flops in the post like he is being mugged to draw the foul. If he actually had to play hard in the post he would shoot 20 percent. KG can't guard Gasol because if he does it's a foul. See KGs 3rd foul where his whole hand gets on the ball and he as to go sit.

[bhov97]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2rfwp08.jpg





:roll: @ People expecting a foul called for that sh!t. Come on. I could see if Kobe literally punched paul in his ribs but damn. Sh!t looks clean to me, Kobe barely tapped it and Paul tried to regain control but his fingertips just tapped it to fisher.

looks like hand across the body to me pal
foul lol

[lakerfreak]

Can someone please post a .gif of PJ Brown shoving and grabbing Gasol on every single play also?

We'd have too many threads with those gifs. Careful what you ask for.

[rs98762001]

There's some contact but you don't call that down the stretch of a Finals game. No way. I'm sure if it had been reversed that Laker fans would also be bytching about it, but either way, that's a good non-call.

[Y2Gezee]

If I thought Kobe touched the ball clearly, I say no foul. Since I don't really see him touching it, and see a lot of obvious contact, and it led to a game changing steal. FOUL.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Wow 7 threads about a little backyard foul, this is nada compare to all the other crap not being called to both sides. But I understand, the person who made this thread is not a Laker fan and needs to vent.
By the way that foul is worst then game 2 officiating right?

[aznboy2k2]

Did Kobe even touch the ball?

Looks like Kobe just whaked Pierce, Pierce surprised by it, lost the ball.

Should have been a foul.

[okayabc123]

Did Kobe even touch the ball?

Looks like Kobe just whaked Pierce, Pierce surprised by it, lost the ball.

Should have been a foul.

Seriously, open your eyes man.. stop imagining something that is not true

[DTD]

Clean hand on ball:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5750/kobeul4.jpg

[brandonislegend]

Clean hand on ball:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5750/kobeul4.jpg


:roll:

/endthread

[arkain]

In the first quarter = Reach in foul on Kobe!
In the last 5-6 mins = Play on like real men and let your play decide the game and not some sissy contact like that.

[No.45]

smh at this play being looked at under a microscope. it was clean, all u needed was one look. what a waste of time.

[RedBlackAttack]

Clean hand on ball:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5750/kobeul4.jpg
Erm...

I'm not saying that he didn't hit ball, but that picture certainly doesn't show it. The ball is clearly motionless (not changing direction or blurred). You also cannot tell where Kobe's hand is. It could be above the ball... it could be around PP's waist. I don't see how a picture of a blurry hand is proof of a clean steal.

I've seen the replay at least 20 times. In every one, it looks like a foul.

That said, the Celtics had their chances to end this series before and after that play. They have no one to blame but themselves.

[RoseCity07]

Yeah clean play. If it happens to Kobe in game 6 or 7 and that dunk is for the game the call won't have to be questioned.

[RedBlackAttack]

^^goes to show how people would just make up crap to have some ish on kobe
ISH making stuff up? Every analyst that I've heard discuss the play has called it a foul.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Dude that is the $hittiest pic. Its not even clear wether his hand is on the ball or not. LMFAO. And you act like that proves something,:roll:

It was a foul by Kobe, but it doesnt matter, there are plenty of missed calls in a game. And in LA there is no way they will EVER call that on Kobe.

Boston lost reguardless of that no-call.

[aznboy2k2]

Clean hand on ball:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5750/kobeul4.jpg

Great picture. Really conclusive.

:party: :party:

[brandonislegend]

?? you cant see that picture? are you blind?

[amfirst]

"It was a good defensive move" quote Pierce...

Get over it. Your superstar admitted it too.

[RedBlackAttack]

?? you cant see that picture? are you blind?
I see a blurry hand and a motionless ball. What do you see?

[aznboy2k2]

?? you cant see that picture? are you blind?


Please inform me as to where Kobe's left hand is. Thanks.

[brandonislegend]

i see hand poking ball leading to dunk

[RedBlackAttack]

i see hand poking ball leading to dunk
Really... that is odd. You would think the ball would be... I don't know... Moving.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Please inform me as to where Kobe's left hand is. Thanks.

I cant even see his left hand in that pic, i just see a big blur that appears to possibley be Kobes hand.

And it is impossible to tell if it is touching the ball or pierce, or nothing at all.

What a joke. What a horrible pic.

[aznboy2k2]

"It was a good defensive move" quote Pierce...

Get over it. Your superstar admitted it too.

Classy players make classy statements.
Brent Barry said he wasn't fouled either.

Couple days later, NBA said a foul should have been called.

What do you think Kobe would have said had he been in Pierce's position?

[amfirst]

And people were complaining about the Lakers fans whining. I guess now we are even.

[aznboy2k2]

i see hand poking ball leading to dunk

You are amazing. #1 in my books.

[brandonislegend]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[amfirst]

Classy players make classy statements.
Brent Barry said he wasn't fouled either.

Couple days later, NBA said a foul should have been called.

What do you think Kobe would have said had he been in Pierce's position?

OK...so Kobe magically wack Pierce on the wrist, hand, arm, and ribs all at once because Pierce is classy.

Good one... :)

And I thought Lakers fans were the whiners...

Oh yea, I forgot, Kobe also wacked him on his jersey.

[KNOW1EDGE]

And people were complaining about the Lakers fans whining. I guess now we are even.

Not even remotely close to "even"

Boston fans would have to whine and cry for about 35 more years to even come close to being "even"

Side Note: Every time Pau Gasol touches the ball he looks like he is about to break out in tears.

[RedBlackAttack]

And people were complaining about the Lakers fans whining. I guess now we are even.
For the record, I'm not a Boston fan. I'm also not saying that this play decided the game. I'm just wondering what on earth that picture proves. It may be the most inconclusive picture I have ever seen regarding any event to ever take place in the history of organized sport.

[Sroek]

A lot of people here seem to believe that making slight brushing contact after the ball has been cleanly stripped is a foul, which is ridiculous. Like Kobe is supposed to play Milton Bradley's operation between the opening of Pierce's arm and torso making sure no hair follicle touches any article of clothing whatsoever.

*Face palm*

If Pierce made such a play on Kobe, I guarantee you nobody would be saying a thing.

[Foster5k]

Looks clean.

Anyways, can someone post a gif of Chris Mihm's air ball? Why the hell did Phil Jackson put him in? I'm brain dead on that move.

[amfirst]

For the record, I'm not a Boston fan. I'm also not saying that this play decided the game. I'm just wondering what on earth that picture proves. It may be the most inconclusive picture I have ever seen regarding any event to ever take place in the history of organized sport.

The play was slow mo for like 10 times. The only thing Kobe whack was the ball and maybe Pierce's jersey. How is this a foul, when the whole Celtics team is contantly gropping and grabbing Kobe? :confusedshrug:

[KNOW1EDGE]

For the record, I'm not a Boston fan. I'm also not saying that this play decided the game. I'm just wondering what on earth that picture proves. It may be the most inconclusive picture I have ever seen regarding any event to ever take place in the history of organized sport.

Seriousley, WTF does that pic prove?

I am neither a Laker fan, nor a Boston fan.

That was a foul on Kobe, but PJ Brown was fouling Gasol the whole game.

The game wasnt lost on that 1 play, it was lost cuz the Celtics didnt show up(outside of Pierce)

[aznboy2k2]

OK...so Kobe magically wack Pierce on the wrist, hand, arm, and ribs all at once because Pierce is classy.

Good one... :)

And I thought Lakers fans were the whiners...

Oh yea, I forgot, Kobe also wacked him on his jersey.


Did you understand what I said at all?

[DTD]

For the record, I'm not a Boston fan. I'm also not saying that this play decided the game. I'm just wondering what on earth that picture proves. It may be the most inconclusive picture I have ever seen regarding any event to ever take place in the history of organized sport.


LOL. OK Bill Wilton.

When combining that image, with the actual video it's pretty conclusive that no foul was committed, at least not enough contact that could be considered a legit foul. The only contact that may have happened is a graze of Pauls jersey after the ball had already been picked (or when paul lost it, whichever you believe happened). Then you add in the fact that Paul in his post game wasn't trying to be classy at all, but rather he was just answering the question in a straight forward fashion. It was a good defensive play IMO.

And besides Wilbon who said it was a foul? Barry immediately countered that by saying it was a clean steal.

[RedBlackAttack]

The play was slow mo for like 10 times. The only thing Kobe whack was the ball and maybe Pierce's jersey. How is this a foul, when the whole Celtics team is contantly gropping and grabbing Kobe? :confusedshrug:
I didn't see any replay that showed the ball being slapped. Whether PJ Brown was fouling Pau Gasol in the second and third quarters is really of no consequence.

I saw a lot of body contact and no clear view of the ball being touched on this particular play. If you feel there is a different play that went for the Celtics that should have been called, I'll be happy to discuss it.

This thread is about this play and it looked like an obvious foul to me, both in real-time and in every replay.

Like I said, though... Boston had plenty of chances to take this game before and after this play. It didn't decide things. The Lakers won. Period.

[gts]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2z721w9.jpg

[RedBlackAttack]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2z721w9.jpg
:oldlol:

What am I missing here, gts? You've been around long enough to know that I have no dog in this fight. These pictures are showing nothing, though... unless I need to go grab my spectacles. :confusedshrug:

Oh well...

[gts]

:oldlol:

What am I missing here, gts? You've been around long enough to know that I have no dog in this fight. These pictures are showing nothing, though... unless I need to go grab my spectacles. :confusedshrug:

Oh well...i have also been around long enough to know you'l argue for no reason...lol

look at pireces thumbnail and look at kobe's nail right next to it, of course do this after you go get your glasses

i mean if you're expecting to see a clean view of kobe's hand, pirce's hand is blocking a clear view of it he went in between pierce's body and hand to get the ball... so maybe we'll just have to wait for a view taken with an x-ray machine

[brandonislegend]

gts dont bother, they cant see anything cept kobe h8

[RedBlackAttack]

i have also been around long enough to know you'l argue for no reason...lol
This is 100% true. :oldlol:


look at pireces thumbnail and look at kobe's nail right next to it, of course do this after you go get your glasses
:confusedshrug:

I don't see it, but I'll stop debating it. Especially since I've already stated that I didn't think this play decided the game.

I'm glad there will be a game 6. I'm not ready for the season to end.

[gts]

This is 100% true. :oldlol:


:confusedshrug:

I don't see it, but I'll stop debating it. Especially since I've already stated that I didn't think this play decided the game.

I'm glad there will be a game 6. I'm not ready for the season to end.no it didn't decide this game by any means... no matter who loss this game, lakers or celtics both teams made big mental errors on more than one occasion..
i think the lakers won this game more by out surviving the celtics and i'd say the same had the celtics won, ugly game really, but entertaing...

i know it's hard to belive the season is down to one or two games then nothing...lol at least we got the draft coming up and the olympics this summer to keep us amused

[gyu]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4302/prooftr4.jpg

Beside Paul Pierce's thumb.

[DLeagueWannabe]

It was a foul. LOL. I'mma a Laker, and I love the call. LMAO at any of you complaining or explaining or justifying the no call. F*ck It. I'LL TAKE THE CALL. Don't be mad at us Laker fans for accepting the call...LOL...WOW

[amfirst]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2z721w9.jpg


Owned... :lol

[amfirst]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2z721w9.jpg

Kobe whacked Pierce arm hair so hard that he didn't even notice it. :lol

[amfirst]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2z721w9.jpg


If Kobe really whacked Pierce. U know he would throw his whole body in the air and pretend to trip right? :lol

It was so clean that he forgot to flop.

[w00terz]

Kobe slightly touched Pierce's jersey/body. He didn't get his hand. It wasn't really a foul (the game was incredibly physical). No foul called was the right call.

[mattreis62]

I think it's a good sign that THIS is what people are complaining about after the game. Maybe Stern told the refs that the fix is off now since the feds are snooping around :roll:

[~LA's fine$t~]

Pierce in the post-game conference said it was a great defensive play and it was all ball. :oldlol:

Yet we have 130+ posts talking about this so called foul from the haters, don't expect much more from ISH though.

[bhov97]

Pierce in the post-game conference said it was a great defensive play and it was all ball. :oldlol:

Yet we have 130+ posts talking about this so called foul from the haters, don't expect much more from ISH though.

you say we're haters but u guys do the exact same thing

when a celtic fan says something there is always a smart mouthed laker fan comment to follow ....i've seen it throughout this thread and the post game 5 thread...all i see is someone commenting on the Boston side and some smart mouthed flame right after it...

oh well guess we'll have to just party in Boston tuesday instead of partying in LA yesterday....

[djsupreme33]

Pierce in the post-game conference said it was a great defensive play and it was all ball. :oldlol:

Yet we have 130+ posts talking about this so called foul from the haters, don't expect much more from ISH though.

It was a great defensive play. It was also a lucky one. Kobe never really stole it. He just got enough of ball and arm to have Pierce mess it up. It wasn't the game changer or anything because there were other chances afterwards for the Celtics to win. It is debatable though because it really could've been called either way but Pierce should've been able to hold on. Even if it was a foul at least it was a bit hidden unlike Fisher's foul on Brent Barry

[stevieming]

it was a foul, but come on, the ref won't call that...heck I wouldn't have called it and I am a Boston fan. (as in seeing it in real time, without slow mo)

anyway, the big thing was KG choking the free throws and paul doing too much in the fourth (turnovers) with no ray contributions.....

anyway, no big deal, close it out at home.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Here's the play in High-Def. You be the judge.

http://209.115.37.127/images/Kobefoul.mpg

[stevieming]

need it slower!!

no, one good def play by kobe finally...

[niko]

Anyone slowing the play down to slow motion or looking at still photos is a ****ing moron. The refs don't have slow motion or still photos. If it's not CLEARLY a foul at this point, i think it's a good no call. If in retrospect, on a photo, you can see his thumb get hit that's ****ing retarded as a reason a call is bad. The ref's aren't superhumans watching in slow motion.

Jesus...

[gobbledygookie]

Here's the play in High-Def. You be the judge.

http://209.115.37.127/images/Kobefoul.mpg
I get 3 seconds of blank screen. Either way, it's no big deal, Fisher's foul on Barry was a big deal. But that? Meh...

[John Starks]

It wasn't that foul that bothered me -- it were the two phantom of-the-ball calls earlier that gave PP and KG their 5th fouls. Were there any off -the-ball calls at any other point in the game? Came completely out of nowhere.

That steal-foul was out of the refs view, in front of PP's body a completely impossible call- - stil la foul -- but impossible call.

JVG didn't like it - I'm paraphrasing: "Lakers made two good defensive plays this 4th quarter, KG's missed FT's and Kobe steal. I don't klnow if that kid of ole' style foul defense is going to cut it in Boston"

[JellyBean]

It could have been called a foul. But man, what about the grabbing and pulling that Paul Pierce is doing to Kobe?

When the Lakers foul,Celtics fans want the refs to call all the calls. When the Celtics are pulling and holding, the Celtics fans don't say anything about those calls. Don't get upset with Kobe's no-call, if you don't get upset about the Celtics no-calls.

[JellyBean]

It wasn't that foul that bothered me -- it were the two phantom of-the-ball calls earlier that gave PP and KG their 5th fouls. Were there any off -the-ball calls at any other point in the game? Came completely out of nowhere.


I know. That crap kills me!!!!! I wish that the refs were consistent with their calls.

[JellyBean]

If Kobe really whacked Pierce. U know he would throw his whole body in the air and pretend to trip right? :lol

It was so clean that he forgot to flop.


LOL!! I am surprised that Prima Donna Paul did not over react to that play.

[Diesel J]

Here's the play in High-Def. You be the judge.

http://209.115.37.127/images/Kobefoul.mpg


Props,straight up foul.LOL @ cats posting still frame from that dark ass gif.Someone upload this high def clip to youtube so we all can see the foul.Kobe hacked Pierce in his arms and ribs which caused Pierce to react as his finger tips carried the ball foward (look at the video and you'll that was Pierce own finger tips that pushed the ball foward and not Kobe hitting the ball).

[Vendetta]

He hit the ball and then he raked his entire arm across Pierce's midsection. Foul.

[Diesel J]

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3092/snapshot20080616104338tt7.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080616104338tt7.jpg)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3629/snapshot20080616104547ed6.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080616104547ed6.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5717/snapshot20080616104816mn8.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080616104816mn8.jpg)

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/386/snapshot20080616104502tv6.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080616104502tv6.jpg)

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http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3055/snapshot20080616104651dv6.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080616104651dv6.jpg)

[SRZ66]

how are people in this thread saying that wasnt a foul? kobe didnt touch the ball... its clear as day

[Vendetta]

how are people in this thread saying that wasnt a foul? kobe didnt touch the ball... its clear as day

Actually he hit the ball and then he hit Pierce.

[jinusky]

Hi all. Not even really a fan of either team which I feel needs to be said due to the amount of hater/fanboi accusations that seem to get thrown around on this forum...

anyway.. I saw the hd capture of the play linked in this thread, and I'm wondering, wheres the foul? If u play it in slow-mo, pierces arm does not even react to any of the 'apparent' contact..and you'd think that kobe swinging through at the ball at that speed would force the arm in a different direction if even only slightly, right?

if anything, the only contact is a rake on the jersey on the follow through, and judging by the reaction of the jersey to the contact by kobe doesn't even seem like it was that strong anyway. and people are calling that a foul? derek fisher on brent barry in the spurs series was a foul, the kobe steal on pierce is nothing.

It seems that this thread backs up doc's statements that there isn't a basketball player as criticised as kobe for no reason...

[Sneakerpro]

I hate the Lakers but Kobe got em clean.

[Rab]

Ehh, there wasn't enough to call that a foul. Kobe's just fortunate that his gamble paid off.

[Anti404]

Whether or not it was a foul, I can't say for sure, but it was a good no-call I think.

[clayton]

STFU and let the Celtics celebrate at Boston. I don't want them to do it at LA. It just doesn't get the crowd going for them. :)

[Killer_Instinct]

Everything Kobe does is amplified x10. Any other player and everyone would have been wetting their pants talking about how great and clutch a steal that was. WTF did Kobe do to you guys?

[Kebab Stall]

Not enough contact to be called. Though some refs may call it and some refs may not. It just so happened, that these refs didn't call it.

It's ammusing that these kind of threads (ones about fouls and no calls) keep getting made, even though you guys know that the refs will keep making bad calls every single game. Not just the Finals, not just the Playoffs and not just in the season, the refs make bad calls in every single game, including pre-season games and summer league games and every other single game. It's like you guys just don't realise that these kind of plays are a big gamble and depends on whether the ref thinks it's a foul or not.

[Da_Realist]

LOL!! I am surprised that Prima Donna Paul did not over react to that play.

Kobe and Derek Fisher both over-react to every play themselves.

[Thom.Yorke]

i dont know why bostons fans are complaining. i dont feel bad at all, kg is doing an illegal screen whenever he wants,...boston is not getting enough calls for the way they are playing IMO...

thats why pierce said its not a foul, he knows best to keep shut.
kobe got all ball because paul's hand/arm does not move at all with the force kobe was going he would def would have moved it even a bit if he touched it although he did get his side.

[MK2V1GP]

Added more frames to the gif, looks pretty clean to me...

http://i25.tinypic.com/2rfwp08.jpg

are you LOOKING at the same thing i am?!?!?! u can clearly see Kobe hit his ribs, & then pull his jersey at the end of it. i'm a huge celtics fan, & i can admit a foul against a boston player when i see one, even if its small. its pathetic u lousy lakers fans think this was clean. if PP "stole" the ball from kobe like that, everybody knows it woulda been called a foul, & if it wasnt, half this board would be callin for the refs head, & u know it.

gimme a break. it was a foul, LA got away with murder the last 2 mins of play. game over. the refs are $#!+. we should all know that now. we should all know that its not gonna be fair for boston. the past 3 games have been indicators of that. llets just hope, for fairnes sake, that the refs are somewhat fair in game 6 & 7.

[ShowTime LA]

are you LOOKING at the same thing i am?!?!?! u can clearly see Kobe hit his ribs, & then pull his jersey at the end of it. i'm a huge celtics fan, & i can admit a foul against a boston player when i see one, even if its small. its pathetic u lousy lakers fans think this was clean. if PP "stole" the ball from kobe like that, everybody knows it woulda been called a foul, & if it wasnt, half this board would be callin for the refs head, & u know it.

gimme a break. it was a foul, LA got away with murder the last 2 mins of play. game over. the refs are $#!+. we should all know that now. we should all know that its not gonna be fair for boston. the past 3 games have been indicators of that. llets just hope, for fairnes sake, that the refs are somewhat fair in game 6 & 7.
IT WAS CLEAN.

It was a steal, admit it. Even the biggest laker haters on this board admitted he hit the ball first.

:cry: :cry:

[MK2V1GP]

"It was a good defensive move" quote Pierce...

Get over it. Your superstar admitted it too.

no, our superstar isnt a lil crybaby ***** like kobe is. i still cant believe kobe complained about boston gettin to the FT line after the game. the numbers were equal, but the calls were not. we got hacked a number of times in the last couple mins, with no calls.

paul is bigger than complaining to the refs, even when he doesnt mean what he said. :hammerhead:

[MK2V1GP]

he may have gotten a fingernail on the ball, but he still fouled him.

no one will make me change my mind on it. u kno LA got out of this with the refs help. there's numerous other BS calls that went on too, most of which were more blatant than this.

[ShowtymeCA2NC]

a clear foul:oldlol: Someone post a gif of it.Kobe reached from around Pierce and just hacked Pierce all in his ribs.Dude didn't touch the ball at all:roll:


it was such a foul that PP himself said that it was clean and a great steal!:D

[hwliuLAP]

i'm a huge celtics fan, & i can admit a foul against a boston player when i see one, even if its small.


You should be able to write up a 5 page paper by just focusing on Posey and PJ Brown, then we'll add KG's illegal screening later in for the credit.

get that started for me, will ya.

For people calling it a foul....... you must not know any simple physics or have never played the ball before, don't watch Kobe's hand onto where it's touching, watch how the ball changes direction and you can tell even if it was a foul, the ball wouldn't just fly out like that, nor did PP mishandled the ball by any point.

[Rafa]

what a pointless thread,
there is a game sticky for a reason

[dirkdiggler41]

It did not look clean in the game and on the reply right after, but I look at it now I can clearly see it was clean. It might look he got a tad of his hand, but not in the way that he pushed the hand to get the steal

[dnyk1337]

That sh!t is clean. Stop b!tching 'cause the Celtics couldn't finish the Lakers off. It was not a foul and that's it. Every little touch is a foul? No!

[Eldrunko247]

he may have gotten a fingernail on the ball, but he still fouled him.

no one will make me change my mind on it. u kno LA got out of this with the refs help. there's numerous other BS calls that went on too, most of which were more blatant than this.
and the celtics didn't get a **** load of calls in game 2 at home? bleh...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I want to see a gif because it didn't look like he touched the ball.

has it ever looked like kobe has ever done anything positive in his entire life in your eyez?

[Sroek]

no, our superstar isnt a lil crybaby ***** like kobe is. i still cant believe kobe complained about boston gettin to the FT line after the game. the numbers were equal, but the calls were not. we got hacked a number of times in the last couple mins, with no calls.

paul is bigger than complaining to the refs, even when he doesnt mean what he said. :hammerhead:

Denial.

Get over it.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

are you LOOKING at the same thing i am?!?!?! u can clearly see Kobe hit his ribs, & then pull his jersey at the end of it.

:roll: :roll: :roll: kobe's arm brushed up against pierces ribs, barely...i wouldn't be surprised if he only touched pierces shirt. you can tell kobe wasnt trying to get fouled. i didn't see any pulling of the jersey either. if you want that call, than u want your team handed the chips. and your calling kobe a cry baby? go glance over the 300 posts you just made whinning like a little b!tch. you better be glad your team isn't as weak minded as you or the celtics would be in trouble.

[KeylessEntry]

No way in hell was this a foul, although I dont see why celtic fans are crying about this anyway, considering the way game 2 was called.

[Eldrunko247]

It was a foul. Celtics better be pissed and beat the crap out of the Fakers in game 6.
cry me a river. pp and doc said it wasn't a foul.

[amfirst]

Clean steal... What a bunch of crybabies.... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :banana:

[dawsey6]

It's really one of the most debatable calls in recent history. You could argue either way whether it was "clearly" clean or "clearly" a foul. That said, it was just some home cookin' on a very key defensive play by Kobe. Don't act like it's the reason why the Celtics lost anyway. They lost because they couldn't find the basket down the stretch, even with 2nd chances.

[brandonislegend]

no, our superstar isnt a lil crybaby ***** like kobe is. i still cant believe kobe complained about boston gettin to the FT line after the game. the numbers were equal, but the calls were not. we got hacked a number of times in the last couple mins, with no calls.

paul is bigger than complaining to the refs, even when he doesnt mean what he said. :hammerhead:

?? are you seriously trying to say paul pierce is not a bigger crybaby than kobe

have you watched any games?

[Uchiha_Hai]

Yeah that **** was a foul. He had most of Pierce's ribs before he even gazed upon that ball.

[Gevz2kX]

?? are you seriously trying to say paul pierce is not a bigger crybaby than kobe

have you watched any games?

It's common knowledge Kobe is and always will be the biggest crybaby in the league. Every time he loses the ball going to the basket he has to flail his arms, moan like an idiot, and stare at the nearest ref.

[crisoner]

It is also common knowledge that 80% of you Celtic fan did not exist last year.

Eat crow b*tch!

[Gevz2kX]

It is also common knowledge that 80% of you Celtic fan did not exist last year.

Eat crow b*tch!

:oldlol: u mad?

I'm a Garnett fan, always been. Here's a clip of Kobe flopping to cheer you up.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2586134838_b6b55bde63_o.gif

[Loki]

^^^^^

Check out the RIDICULOUS flop attempt by Kobe, kicking his leg out and flailing with Posey nowhere near him. Shows you what a flopper he is. Posey faked like he was gonna challenge and stepped away, and Kobe realized Posey had read him well and has length, so Kobe was ready to pull a Reggie Miller-like flop. :oldlol: Dude's a gimmick.

He also flops and exaggerates contact whenever he comes around screens and anyone makes any sort of body contact, no matter how slight.

[sixerfan82]

cry me a river. pp and doc said it wasn't a foul.

since when does the other team have to back up calls now? ive heard of good sportsmanship but wtf is this junk?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

since when does the other team have to back up calls now? ive heard of good sportsmanship but wtf is this junk?

they usually reflect the question when they disagree.

[bigkingsfan]

:oldlol: u mad?

I'm a Garnett fan, always been. Here's a clip of Kobe flopping to cheer you up.


Resize your future gifs, file is nearly 10mb...

[aznboy2k2]

?? are you seriously trying to say paul pierce is not a bigger crybaby than kobe

have you watched any games?


Who led the league in tech fouls?
More tech fouls then Rasheed Wallace?

I'll give you a hint, it's not Paul Pierce.

[aznboy2k2]

cry me a river. pp and doc said it wasn't a foul.

Coach Pop and Brent Barry also said it wasn't a foul. They say it because its a sign of good sportsmanship.

[Eldrunko247]

Coach Pop and Brent Barry also said it wasn't a foul. They say it because its a sign of good sportsmanship.
and? deal with it. boston got away with murder in boston. it all evens out eventually.

[amfirst]

Here's a tissue for all u crybabies.... :cry: :cry: :oldlol:

[aznboy2k2]

and? deal with it. boston got away with murder in boston. it all evens out eventually.

and what? what do you mean what?
the coach and player say that because they are supposed to.

only ignorant Laker fans bring up what rivers and pierce say.

[Tez62]

Do you C's fans really want them to call every touch foul? I didn't think so.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

and what? what do you mean what?
the coach and player say that because they are supposed to.

only ignorant Laker fans bring up what rivers and pierce say.

We all know your full of hate towards LA so before you talk about lakers fans = ignorant, think about yourself. You = net picking at its best.

[MaxFly]

You know what, it was a clean enough steal. It looks like there was a little contact after the poke away but it's clear that Bryant tipped the ball away without hitting Paul's arm which at first I thought he had. Good no call by the refs I guess. I wish Paul had done a better job of shielding the ball... it would have been an easy score.

As for the Celtics fan bashing... just because someone is rooting for the Celts doesn't mean they're a Celts fan... I see a lot of generalizations being flung around here... know who you're arguing with please. Some of the same people who are rooting for the Celtics now were likely bashing them two weeks ago.

[Fallguy20]

Do you C's fans really want them to call every touch foul? I didn't think so.

True. Celtics defensive mindset is have at least 10 fouls-body checks, pushing, grabbing the jerseys- and getting away with it most of the time. Hell, PJ Brown mauls the guy trying to post up on the blocks 24/7... if we called the games exact it would be stop n' go basketball at its worst.