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ForceOfNature
06-28-2008, 02:38 PM
What are the NBA players of mixed race that you know of?

here are the ones I know:

Half-white, half-black:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Jason Kidd
Kevin Martin
Shane Battier
Jordan Farmar
Drew Gooden
Delonte West
Joakim Noah

Retired half-white, half-black:
Trajan Langdon
Doug Christie
John Amaechi

Ancient Legend
06-28-2008, 02:48 PM
Jordan Farmar
Kevin Martin
Brook & Robin Lopez
Matt Barnes
Francisco Garcia
Mike Bibby
Tayshaun Prince (not sure)
Tim Duncan (not sure)

highwhey
06-28-2008, 03:21 PM
*still wondering what race sam casell is from*


:oldlol:

stephanieg
06-28-2008, 04:32 PM
The overwhelming majority of people, especially in Western societies, are mutts, even if they "appear" very white or very black.

Lebron23
06-28-2008, 04:46 PM
What are the NBA players of mixed race that you know of?

here are the ones I know:

Half-white, half-black:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Jason Kidd
Mike Bibby
Kevin Martin
Grant Hill
Shane Battier
Jordan Farmar
Drew Gooden
Delonte West
Joakim Noah

Retired half-white, half-black:
Trajan Langdon
Doug Christie
John Amaechi

Add Tim Duncan on that lists

His Mother is White
His Father is African American

lilojmayo
06-28-2008, 04:51 PM
The overwhelming majority of people, especially in Western societies, are mutts, even if they "appear" very white or very black.

yeah about 90% of americans have some other race in them besides their obvious one because of native americans mixing with whites slavery and intergration and immigration etc

Strangefruit
06-28-2008, 04:54 PM
Never posted in any of these cyclical threads, but felt like doing so this time...

WTF is "mixed-race"?

Do you realize every single guy on Earth is "mixed-race" to some extent?

When does a player "stop" being white and becomes "black" or some other delightful color?

You know, just when I thought I finally understood this race-thing mess -"just look at the color of the skin, they said"- I discover blue-eyed Jason Kidd is black -and my brother here, being dark-eyed, dark-haired and natural-tanned is as white as the princess of Norway or myself.

I wonder how blind people feel about this nonsense.

daballa13
06-28-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm pretty sure Farmar is white, hes just Jewish :banana:

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 05:01 PM
*still wondering what race sam casell is from*


:oldlol:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5067/samcassellaliencopyfk9.jpg

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 05:01 PM
Jordan Farmer is Jewish, and as such I suppose he doesn't fit into the two-tone perception of society some people have. He's neither white nor black.

mrspurs
06-28-2008, 05:02 PM
whats your favorite color? and what kind of mickey mouse question is this?

ForceOfNature
06-28-2008, 05:02 PM
The overwhelming majority of people, especially in Western societies, are mutts, even if they "appear" very white or very black.

Yeah, but those are more distant mixed ancestors. The players listed on the first post have parents who are two different races. They're really really mixed.

highwhey
06-28-2008, 05:35 PM
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5067/samcassellaliencopyfk9.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron23
06-28-2008, 05:39 PM
Jordan Farmer is Jewish, and as such I suppose he doesn't fit into the two-tone perception of society some people have. He's neither white nor black.


Jordan Farmar's Ethnicity is Half Jewish, and Half African American

highwhey
06-28-2008, 05:41 PM
Wikipedia states that Lopez twins are half Cuban since their dad is Cuban, but mom is American. Don't know how true that is.

Lebron23
06-28-2008, 05:42 PM
Half Puerto Rican and Half African American


Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony

KobesOneUglyTat
06-28-2008, 05:44 PM
Jordan Farmer is Jewish, and as such I suppose he doesn't fit into the two-tone perception of society some people have. He's neither white nor black.

Jews are white idiot. What are they teaching you in Utah?

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 05:46 PM
Jews are white idiot. What are they teaching you in Utah?

I'm Jewish and I most certainly do not identify with white people. Moron.

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 05:46 PM
Jordan Farmar's Ethnicity is Half Jewish, and Half African American

No one is half Jewish or quarter Jewish, you're either Jewish or you're not.

KobesOneUglyTat
06-28-2008, 05:49 PM
No one is half Jewish or quarter Jewish, you're either Jewish or you're not.

the Fu<ck are you talking about, of course you can be half Jewish. You are braindead.

and Jews are WHITE, Judiasm is an ethnicity and a religon, NOT a race.

There are only 3 races in the world, Caucasiod (white) Negroid (black) and Mongoliod (asian/pacific islander)

Even american indians are not a seperate race, they are mongoloids.

Of course many people in the world are of mixed races.

Phar
06-28-2008, 05:49 PM
You can't be half Jewish. Race-wise at least.

And, I *think* Shaun Livingston is mixed. Not too sure though.

highwhey
06-28-2008, 05:52 PM
the Fu<ck are you talking about, of course you can be half Jewish. You are braindead.

and Jews are WHITE, Judiasm is an ethnicity and a religon, NOT a race.

There are only 3 races in the world, Caucasiod (white) Negroid (black) and Mongoliod (asian/pacific islander)

Even american indians are not a seperate race, they are mongoloids.

Of course many people in the world are of mixed races.

I was thinking the same thing.

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 05:55 PM
the Fu<ck are you talking about, of course you can be half Jewish. You are braindead.

and Jews are WHITE, Judiasm is an ethnicity and a religon, NOT a race.

There are only 3 races in the world, Caucasiod (white) Negroid (black) and Mongoliod (asian/pacific islander)

Even american indians are not a seperate race, they are mongoloids.

Of course many people in the world are of mixed races.

Wow, straight from the KKK school of ethnographics, eh?

Read a book once in a while, instead of quoting white supremacy theories that have been obsolete for some good 70 years now.

And I love how a guy who's nickname says "KobesOneUglyTat" and who spells like a gradeschooler is telling me what I am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

Read up a bit on the Halakha here, then come talk.

shaoyut
06-28-2008, 06:24 PM
*still wondering what race sam casell is from*


:oldlol:
Mars

Im so nba'd out
06-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Half Puerto Rican and Half African American


Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert is half cuban not puerto rican.Carlos Boozer is mixed and im pretty sure boris diaw is mixed too

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 06:48 PM
Gilbert is half cuban not puerto rican.Carlos Boozer is mixed and im pretty sure boris diaw is mixed too

According to Wikipedia, it is only Gilbert's paternal great-grandfather who was Cuban. Not exactly half-Cuban. Hell, not really Cuban in any sense unless you wanna stretch it.

Beebo
06-28-2008, 06:49 PM
There are only 3 races in the world, Caucasiod (white) Negroid (black) and Mongoliod (asian/pacific islander)

What about Hispanics??

Rafa
06-28-2008, 07:39 PM
pointless thread ...

Lebron23
06-28-2008, 07:49 PM
Wow, straight from the KKK school of ethnographics, eh?

Read a book once in a while, instead of quoting white supremacy theories that have been obsolete for some good 70 years now.

And I love how a guy who's nickname says "KobesOneUglyTat" and who spells like a gradeschooler is telling me what I am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

Read up a bit on the Halakha here, then come talk.

Don't even bothered debating with KobesOneUglyTat.

He is 50 % Stupid, and 50 % Moron

Posterize246
06-28-2008, 10:17 PM
Wikipedia states that Lopez twins are half Cuban since their dad is Cuban, but mom is American. Don't know how true that is.
The "Lopez" part helps their claim

iggy>
06-28-2008, 10:37 PM
melo is half black half rican.

highwhey
06-28-2008, 10:38 PM
The "Lopez" part helps their claim
Yeah but Wikipedia is 40% accurate...some users just write false stuff.

jadiaby
06-28-2008, 10:39 PM
What are the NBA players of mixed race that you know of?

here are the ones I know:

Half-white, half-black:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Jason Kidd
Mike Bibby
Kevin Martin
Grant Hill
Shane Battier
Jordan Farmar
Drew Gooden
Delonte West
Joakim Noah

Retired half-white, half-black:
Trajan Langdon
Doug Christie
John Amaechi

Grant Hill isn't mixed, both his parents are black.

i seen hippos
06-28-2008, 10:40 PM
Wow, straight from the KKK school of ethnographics, eh?

Read a book once in a while, instead of quoting white supremacy theories that have been obsolete for some good 70 years now.

And I love how a guy who's nickname says "KobesOneUglyTat" and who spells like a gradeschooler is telling me what I am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

Read up a bit on the Halakha here, then come talk.

Where are your ancestors from?

omarnyc
06-28-2008, 10:49 PM
What are the NBA players of mixed race that you know of?

here are the ones I know:

Half-white, half-black:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Jason Kidd
Mike Bibby
Kevin Martin
Grant Hill
Shane Battier
Jordan Farmar
Drew Gooden
Delonte West
Joakim Noah

Retired half-white, half-black:
Trajan Langdon
Doug Christie
John Amaechi



why do everybody say bibby is half white? his dad henry bibby is not white, he may be part white but he's definately black, and bibby's mom is a lightskin west indian woman...grant hill is not half white, both his parents are black. are you sure delonte west is half white or is it his complextion, because i read where he said he is the only light person in his family.

stephanieg
06-28-2008, 10:56 PM
There are only 3 races in the world, Caucasiod (white) Negroid (black) and Mongoliod (asian/pacific islander)

Even american indians are not a seperate race, they are mongoloids.

The committees at Nature and Science are waiting for your ground breaking papers. :eek:

There's no such thing as 'race' as commonly understood by laymen. It's better to think of it as clusters of populations. For example, there are more genetic population clusters in Africa than anywhere else. Calling them all "black" would be wildly ignorant. You might have more in common with an Australian aborigine than certain African clusters do to each other.

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 11:14 PM
Where are your ancestors from?

Bosnia, the Pale, Hungary, Ireland.

Hammertime
06-28-2008, 11:16 PM
Judaism is not a race or nationality... wtf are people saying.

Being Jewish means that you are of the Jewish faith. It's a damn religion..

Will all the Gentiles please stop talking about this. Last time a gentile took it upon himself to decide who's Jewish and who isn't, 6 million of us got killed.

mike239489
06-28-2008, 11:21 PM
Wow, straight from the KKK school of ethnographics, eh?

Read a book once in a while, instead of quoting white supremacy theories that have been obsolete for some good 70 years now.

And I love how a guy who's nickname says "KobesOneUglyTat" and who spells like a gradeschooler is telling me what I am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

Read up a bit on the Halakha here, then come talk.

stfu you ****ing ****.

Hammertime
06-29-2008, 03:48 AM
Judaism=religion.

Thus, a black person can become Jewish after conversion.

Which involves more than just sprinkling of water. 7 years of reading books. Because it's not just a religion. You are joining an ethnic group.

Manute for Ever!
06-29-2008, 04:13 AM
Which involves more than just sprinkling of water. 7 years of reading books. Because it's not just a religion. You are joining an ethnic group.

Hence why Jewish people in general have their own physical characterists that separates them from most caucasians, ie. more hirsute, slightly larger nose.

final.wrath
06-29-2008, 05:31 AM
Wow, straight from the KKK school of ethnographics, eh?

Read a book once in a while, instead of quoting white supremacy theories that have been obsolete for some good 70 years now.

And I love how a guy who's nickname says "KobesOneUglyTat" and who spells like a gradeschooler is telling me what I am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

Read up a bit on the Halakha here, then come talk.

white supremacy theories? ha.

the exodus is obviously describing the hixos/levites getting kicked out of egypt. slaves my ass. are the khazars true jews too?

but screw all this racial bull****. why is it getting more and more intense?

momo
06-29-2008, 06:52 AM
the Fu<ck are you talking about, of course you can be half Jewish. You are braindead.

and Jews are WHITE, Judiasm is an ethnicity and a religon, NOT a race.

There are only 3 races in the world, Caucasiod (white) Negroid (black) and Mongoliod (asian/pacific islander)

Even american indians are not a seperate race, they are mongoloids.

Of course many people in the world are of mixed races.


Tell this to much of Ethiopia.

A moderator should just close this thread.

RoseCity07
06-29-2008, 07:03 AM
Having this conversation the other day about race you come to the conclusion that people seems to think race is the same thing as what color you are. You can be white on the outside but if you have 1 drop of "black blood" in you you're black.

If a "black" persons and a "white" person have a kid what race are they? That pretty much ends the discussion right there.

pethuel03
06-29-2008, 07:14 AM
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5067/samcassellaliencopyfk9.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron23
06-29-2008, 07:58 AM
Duncan's mother:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/I_keel_you_mayn/Other/NBA%20players%20as%20kids/TimDuncan1.png

Looks like a light-skinned black person to me, at least not completely white. And like someone else mentioned, Grant Hill's mom is black:

http://www.knightcommission.org/images/uploads/janet_hill_145px.jpg




According to this site Duncan is part black and white.


http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/mulatto/vpost?id=2032207#post19224513


Grant Hill – Basketball player, Black father, bi-racial (black and white) mother.


http://www.blackflix.com/articles/multiracial.html

Strangefruit
06-29-2008, 08:38 AM
Having this conversation the other day about race you come to the conclusion that people seems to think race is the same thing as what color you are. You can be white on the outside but if you have 1 drop of "black blood" in you you're black.

If a "black" persons and a "white" person have a kid what race are they? That pretty much ends the discussion right there.

Man, that is awesome.
Why doesn't it work the other way around?

Please help me. Imagine I'm a greek dude with blue eyes, brown straight hair and pale skin. Am I still white if a turkish soldier had a child with a white-as-snow greek girl by 1810 and eventually became my ancestors?

Maybe a blond spanish guy with green eyes cannot be called white because in 1520 a descendant of a Moslim Almohad Warrior converted to Christianism and married a girl of germanic origins.

Sometimes I get the feeling Americans have turned this race thing into a complete paranoia.

ForceOfNature
06-29-2008, 04:18 PM
Judiasm is not a race. It is a religion. Jewish people for the most part are white, although there are Jews of every race.

Also, I have to make it clear that Italian, Spanish (from Spain), and Greek people are WHITE.


If a "black" persons and a "white" person have a kid what race are they? That pretty much ends the discussion right there.

If the "black" is fully black, the kid would be mixed. But if the "black" parent is mixed, then.... who the hell knows...

T.O.RAPS
06-29-2008, 05:14 PM
Juan Dixon im pretty sure is 1/2 black, 1/2 cuban..

Hammertime
06-29-2008, 06:57 PM
Maybe Judaism is conceived as an ethnic group because you never had your own country. Harsh, but might be reality.

Or because we were never allowed to assimilate. It doesn't matter whether you lived in Germany, England, Russia, or Turkey. If you're Jewish, you couldn't be German, English, Russian, or Turkish.

stephanieg
06-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Also, I have to make it clear that Italian, Spanish (from Spain), and Greek people are WHITE.

"White" might be an even more meaningless term than "black," and the purported caucasoid is even more mutty than blacks (in terms of cross-population if not genetic diversity). It used to be that only alabaster-skinned persons of central and western Europe descent were considered "white" (excepting the Irish, of course, who are their own degenerate race). Then they lumped in the Slavs and Persians, then the "greasers" around the Med, and pretty soon anybody who doesn't have obviously slanted eyes or skin darker than a cup of Earl Grey is "white". Given the amount of mixing among multi-generational immigrant populations, not to mention the wave after wave of invasions of Europe by various conquerors from the East and Middle East, plus the mixing by European conquistadors and pilgrams from Europe into the New World's native populations, it's pretty doubtful that out of a group of random "white" Americans more than a few percent could make any valid claim to having purely Germanic or Nordic geneology.