View Full Version : Chris Duhon agrees to join Knicks
HaNdLe ThE RoCk
07-01-2008, 10:35 PM
ESPN Insider Chris Sheridan reports the New York Knicks and Chris Duhon are close to an agreement that would give the former blue devil 11.5 million over the next two seasons. Donnie Walsh met with Duhon today and it appears it won't be his last.
Solid back up. I don't care how much it is as long as it's 2 years
JULY 4 UPDATE: It's happening. The Knicks will get Chris Duhon.
wang4three
07-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Great pick up in fact.
omarnyc
07-01-2008, 10:45 PM
yeah nice pick up
Mr_Basketball#1
07-01-2008, 10:45 PM
Well....It's a start...Great pick up.
starface
07-01-2008, 10:46 PM
quality move for the knix
duhon and gallinari may not be the sexiest names but at least they are guys who are gonna go out and play their hardest and at least make the knicks competitive. sadly that alone is a step up for the knicks.
and duhon has been kind of hidden there behind Hinrich but he actually plays well when he gets the minutes. good for the knix
:applause: Really good pickup. I think the Knicks might be headed in the right direction.
Maniak
07-01-2008, 10:47 PM
This offseason is going to be a big one for the knicks,
ALBballer
07-01-2008, 11:00 PM
At first i thought this was going to be some 5yr/Full MLE type of deal, but 2 years is a damm good move.
Defensive PG that can do a little of everything.
DoubleTech
07-01-2008, 11:26 PM
i like this signing by the knicks... shows their committed to putting a better product on the court and at the same time not forgetting to keep their finances under control.
shaoyut
07-01-2008, 11:36 PM
after signing him trade randolph
New Jazzy Nets
07-01-2008, 11:37 PM
i like this signing by the knicks... shows their committed to putting a better product on the court and at the same time not forgetting to keep their finances under control.
wtf do you mean? they cant sign any player for more then the MLE, and we knew NY was only going to sign 2 year deals for lebron which they wont get.
Suns520
07-01-2008, 11:41 PM
I like this deal for the Knicks, good pick up.
bagelred
07-01-2008, 11:43 PM
Essentially they are overpaying for the two years, but they need to convince free agents to "only" sign two year deal. After two years, after Knicks get Lebron, they can resign Duhon again without cap implications...is that right?
Edit: Never mind. You have to have 3 years for Bird rights. Duhon has to go under cap.
Also, I think D'Antoni desperately wants to cut Marbury and needs at least a serviceable point guard to convince Walsh to do it. Duhon is good enough for that.
I dont know whats funnier. Knicks getting Lebron or Duhon having a damn STICKY topic. :roll:
New York Knicks = Home to Chicago's Rejects
:lol
bagelred
07-01-2008, 11:49 PM
New York Knicks = Home to Chicago's Rejects
:lol
How's that been working out for Chicago?
How's that been working out for Chicago?
Real well, just ask Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah! not to mention Eddy Curry's cheeseburger! :lol
bagelred
07-01-2008, 11:57 PM
Real well, just ask Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah! not to mention Eddy Curry's cheeseburger! :lol
Ya think Chicago make playoffs this year? Fingers crossed....
Actually, I proposed a Zach Randolph and David Lee For Larry Hughes and Joakim Noah trade. Think that helps both teams and their goals.
Ya think Chicago make playoffs this year? Fingers crossed....
Actually, I proposed a Zach Randolph and David Lee For Larry Hughes and Joakim Noah trade. Think that helps both teams and their goals.
You know Chitown is talented, filthy style. Yeah...Chicago won't make the playoffs next season...:jackoff emoticon:
Lee doesn't have the size that Noah has. That deal makes no sense as chicago would be left without a center except for the too slow to play in vinny del negro's system aaron gray.
bagelred
07-02-2008, 12:02 AM
You know Chitown is talented, filthy style. Yeah...Chicago won't make the playoffs next season...:jackoff emoticon:
Lee doesn't have the size that Noah has. That deal makes no sense as chicago would be left without a center except for the too slow to play in vinny del negro's system aaron gray.
Noah isn't a real center anyway. They should sign Diop or something....
But Lee and Randolph give Bulls more inside presence and rebounding....Lee is a step up from Noah and ya know Paxson would LOVE David Lee....perfect Paxson guy.....
Noah isn't a real center anyway. They should sign Diop or something....
But Lee and Randolph give Bulls more inside presence and rebounding....Lee is a step up from Noah and ya know Paxson would LOVE David Lee....perfect Paxson guy.....
he is a perfect paxson guy but who plays Center, Gooden? Check the Chicago Sun Times. Paxson said they are NOT going to go out and sign any free agents except for Luol Deng and Ben Gordon. They already have 13 roster spots filled. That's what happens when you've been in the lottery for the past 10 years. There is no vacancy in Chicago for NBA players except #1 overall picks like Derrick Rose.
bagelred
07-02-2008, 12:13 AM
he is a perfect paxson guy but who plays Center, Gooden? Check the Chicago Sun Times. Paxson said they are NOT going to go out and sign any free agents except for Luol Deng and Ben Gordon. They already have 13 roster spots filled. That's what happens when you've been in the lottery for the past 10 years. There is no vacancy in Chicago for NBA players except #1 overall picks like Derrick Rose.
If you get Randolph and Lee, you can trade Gooden and his expiring contract for a real center, perhaps. You certaintly wouldn't need Gooden with this trade.
final.wrath
07-02-2008, 01:24 AM
Solid back up. I don't care how much it is as long as it's 2 years
he's not even a backup. defends, shoots, gets to the hoop, and particularly important he can push the break.
I don't see Marbury doing a better job since he doesn't have a good big man to work the pick and roll. I don't have faith in Randolph or Curry.
mattreis62
07-02-2008, 03:19 AM
Seems like a lot of money for Chris Freakin' Duhon, but whatever I guess. They're going to suck until some of their bad contracts run out or are traded away. Might as well give Duhon a chance and see if he's starter material.
final.wrath
07-02-2008, 03:34 AM
Idk I always felt this guy was underrated. Can defend, shoot, distribute, push the break. Whats not to like? There was a reason Skiles started him over Ben Gordon.
Rameek
07-02-2008, 03:50 AM
Gave him the whole mid level exception? Guess thats it in the FA market for the Knicks.
From what I saw of him I would kinda agree with Final Wrath. Just not absolutely sure he's the best fit in Dantoni's system but neither are most of the Knicks roster:roll: :cheers:
final.wrath
07-02-2008, 05:00 AM
He can distribute well enough to tally 4 assists in only 23 minutes a game for a team with no great scorers... D'Antoni should like him. Shot selection seems to be his only weakness so far in his career.
WeedWacker
07-02-2008, 08:13 AM
Yeah, now they just need to sign a new owner.
$6 million per?! this is worse than the jared jeffries contract. :roll:
Duhon is undersized, can't shoot, is slow for a PG, has weak handles for a PG, and has a SERIOUS drinking problem. He's going to get all bubbled up in NYC. just watch.
bagelred
07-02-2008, 09:41 AM
$6 million per?! this is worse than the jared jeffries contract. :roll:
Duhon is undersized, can't shoot, is slow for a PG, has weak handles for a PG, and has a SERIOUS drinking problem. He's going to get all bubbled up in NYC. just watch.
Wrong. Jeffries received a 5 year contract.
In order to sign a player for only two years, you have to overpay them. Otherwise, they'll just go for the more secure, longer contract somewhere else.
Smart move to get Duhon. If they overpaid for these 2 years, who cares? As long as he comes off books by 2010.
knickballer
07-02-2008, 09:50 AM
Real well, just ask Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah! not to mention Eddy Curry's cheeseburger! :lol
I bet the Bulls would take Curry over Thomas and Noah any day. What do the bulls need? A scoring big man. Tyrus Thomas has no offensive game, Joakim Noah is garbage and looks like garbage. They got rid of all the big men that they needed Brand, Chandler, Curry.... Gooden/Noah is probably the worst frontcourt you can have. Curry can score and thats what the bulls have been looking for that for years.
I bet the Bulls would take Curry over Thomas and Noah any day. What do the bulls need? A scoring big man. Tyrus Thomas has no offensive game, Joakim Noah is garbage and looks like garbage. They got rid of all the big men that they needed Brand, Chandler, Curry.... Gooden/Noah is probably the worst frontcourt you can have. Curry can score and thats what the bulls have been looking for that for years.
this is the classic example of what i mean when i say new yorkers are the dumbest, most self-absorbed, and rudest people on the face of the Earth. Only a New Yorker could not only rationalize to himself, but boast about the Curry trade...:hammerhead:
Trading away two unprotected 1st round picks and a whole bunch of players for Eddy "Double Whopper with Cheese, fries, and a milkshake" Curry was beyond idiotic. Thanks Zeke!
xxxSuperStar
07-02-2008, 09:59 AM
Duhon is a known drunk who stays out partying too late and doesn't show up to practice. Wait till New York media gets a hold of his antics.
You'll hear more "My alarm didn't work" excuses when he misses practice starting in training camp.
Duhon is a known drunk who stays out partying too late and doesn't show up to practice. Wait till New York media gets a hold of his antics.
You'll hear more "My alarm didn't work" excuses when he misses practice starting in training camp.
That's probably why he can't shoot to save anyone's life! He's all hung over the next day. Although, I do remember skiles' unexpectingly sitting duhon out of a game right before tip off. it turns out he was drinking in the locker room before the game to "take the edge off."
knickballer
07-02-2008, 10:03 AM
this is the classic example of what i mean when i say new yorkers are the dumbest, most self-absorbed, and rudest people on the face of the Earth. Only a New Yorker could not only rationalize to himself, but boast about the Curry trade...:hammerhead:
Trading away two unprotected 1st round picks and a whole bunch of players for Eddy "Double Whopper with Cheese, fries, and a milkshake" Curry was beyond idiotic. Thanks Zeke!
What did the bulls get with those players? Tyrus thomas all he can do is dunk. Noah is garbage. They need a center like curry. And how the **** am I rude, dumb, most self-absorbed? Yes Eddy curry is fat but not as fat as your girlfriend. He can score and thats what the bulls need the most a scoring big. I didn't "boast" about the curry trade I want him out of NY cause we don't need him here. Bulls big men- Gooden, Noah, Gray, Thomas all of these players can't score
What did the bulls get with those players? Tyrus thomas all he can do is dunk. Noah is garbage. They need a center like curry. And how the **** am I rude, dumb, most self-absorbed? Yes Eddy curry is fat but not as fat as your girlfriend. He can score and thats what the bulls need the most a scoring big. I didn't "boast" about the curry trade I want him out of NY cause we don't need him here. Bulls big men- Gooden, Noah, Gray, Thomas all of these players can't score
i didn't mean you personally, i meant new yorkers in general. anyways, your right about chicago needing a low post scorer like Curry but we already know he'll score 15 points in the 1st quarter and then 2 the rest of the game. we already know some days he gets into early foul trouble just so he can get a breather on the bench. we already know eddy isn't very smart and has no desire to win.
bagelred
07-02-2008, 10:26 AM
i didn't mean you personally, i meant new yorkers in general. anyways, your right about chicago needing a low post scorer like Curry but we already know he'll score 15 points in the 1st quarter and then 2 the rest of the game. we already know some days he gets into early foul trouble just so he can get a breather on the bench. we already know eddy isn't very smart and has no desire to win.
I told you what to do, David Lee and Zack Randolph for Larry Hughes and Joakim Noah. Then trade Gooden and his expiring contract for a true center.
Lee and Randolph give you both scoring inside presence and 20 rebounds game combined. Noah isn't a true center anyway....so Bulls need to get Diop or use Gooden as bait to get one.
usdmef9
07-02-2008, 10:29 AM
I can't believe David Lee is on the block, out of last years knicks I would make Lee the starting power forward and gut the rest of the team with an exception to Balkman because he brings great energy and works his ass off.
bagelred
07-02-2008, 10:35 AM
I can't believe David Lee is on the block, out of last years knicks I would make Lee the starting power forward and gut the rest of the team with an exception to Balkman because he brings great energy and works his ass off.
There's a reason. Because of Isiah's ineptitude, they can't afford to sign Lee for big money, so they have to trade him. Plus, they can package Lee with either Randolph or Curry, to get rid of their big contracts.
usdmef9
07-02-2008, 10:50 AM
There's a reason. Because of Isiah's ineptitude, they can't afford to sign Lee for big money, so they have to trade him. Plus, they can package Lee with either Randolph or Curry, to get rid of their big contracts.
thats unfortunate, the best thing Lee can do for them at this point is package him with a less than desireable contract in order to lower the payroll. Ugh the knicks truly make me sick, Lee should already be one of the best young stars in this league but he is getting a worse deal out of being associated with the knicks than the other Lee, Spike.
Sicknote
07-02-2008, 11:09 AM
i didn't mean you personally, i meant new yorkers in general.
Oh, the irony of generalizing an entire state of people.
HaNdLe ThE RoCk
07-02-2008, 01:02 PM
JPR, please just shut the f*ck up
HaNdLe ThE RoCk
07-02-2008, 01:05 PM
BTW, how bout them Bears ?
:roll:
Oh, the irony of generalizing an entire state of people.
not the state, just the city. Big difference!
taibien86
07-02-2008, 05:23 PM
This offseason is going to be a big one for the knicks,
thats what they said last year.
thats what they said last year.
That's what they say every year! one day, the knicks won't suck anymore. wow, that will be the day...
HaNdLe ThE RoCk
07-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Bulls sucked just as bad last year
Apparently the meeting with Orlando went really well and it's down to the Knicks and the Magic.
Free-agent point guard Chris Duhon could finalize contract terms with the Orlando Magic by the end of the week after spending Wednesday with coaches, players and General Manager Otis Smith.
Duhon, who played the past four seasons with the Chicago Bulls, is scheduled to return home this morning, where he will decide whether to sign with the Magic, or the New York Knicks. He visited New York on Monday.
"The visit here went really well,'' said Kevin Bradbury, Duhon's agent, Wednesday night from his Orlando hotel room. "Chris wants to help a team win a championship. That's what Orlando is trying to do. That's different than a team looking to rebuild. He was flattered that a team of this caliber wants him.''
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-magic0308jul03,0,5891632.story
bagelred
07-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Apparently the meeting with Orlando went really well and it's down to the Knicks and the Magic.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-magic0308jul03,0,5891632.story
I don't know, I hear Chris is a guy who gets what he wants, you have to be careful....
It's true what they say. You Don't Mess With The Duhon.
HaNdLe ThE RoCk
07-03-2008, 10:25 AM
Don't offer any more to him.
Let him go to Orlando for 10 mil. He isn't worth that.
Rameek
07-03-2008, 03:07 PM
The Knicks offered 2 years $6mil Magic 3 years $10mil
bagelred
07-03-2008, 05:45 PM
The Knicks offered 2 years $6mil Magic 3 years $10mil
Gee, I wonder where Duhon will go then.
hawkfan
07-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Good move for them.
Duhon and Robinson can share the point guard duties.
Marbury can either sit on the bench or play some 2 guard.
HaNdLe ThE RoCk
07-04-2008, 04:17 PM
It's official, nice signing
dnyk1337
07-04-2008, 04:33 PM
I like the signing. Now let's try to trade away Randolph and Jeffries.
RapsFan
07-04-2008, 05:05 PM
:sleeping A role player signs with a bad team.....not much to talk about.
It's A VC3!!!
07-04-2008, 05:13 PM
maybe Duhon can make Knicks win more games, and hopefully make playoffs
dnyk1337
07-04-2008, 05:30 PM
:sleeping A role player signs with a bad team.....not much to talk about.
Says... the Raptors fan. You do know that your team constitutes as a bad team also right? Maybe average at best, if you're lucky.
NeighborhoodKid
07-04-2008, 06:48 PM
go back up Jameer in Orlando!
Buffalobraves
07-04-2008, 08:10 PM
So that narrows down Chicago to what 1,543,567,345 guards now?
bagelred
07-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Signing Duhon is an insurance policy. NOW, they can dump Marbury if they want to. The Knicks had no other point guard on the payroll, except Robinson, but he's a tweener.
Now D'Antoni and Walsh can waive Marbury, if Marbury gives them any problems.
RapsFan
07-04-2008, 09:39 PM
Says... the Raptors fan. You do know that your team constitutes as a bad team also right? Maybe average at best, if you're lucky.
Pretty irrelevant to the discussion of Duhon joining the Knicks. Because you're a Knicks fan, does that mean you aren't able to comment in any other thread that is about winning, team play, efficient shooting, weight loss and salary cap management?
Reality is, Duhon is a bit part. If he joined the Raps to backup Jose I wouldn't be too excited, especially for the MLE, I would be pretty pissed.
If the Raps making the playoffs the last couple of years constitutes bad....then I can't find the word for the Knicks.
It's A VC3!!!
07-04-2008, 09:57 PM
Congrats on reeling in Duhon:applause:
Rameek
07-05-2008, 03:31 AM
:sleeping A role player signs with a bad team.....not much to talk about.
Pretty irrelevant to the discussion of Duhon joining the Knicks. Because you're a Knicks fan, does that mean you aren't able to comment in any other thread that is about winning, team play, efficient shooting, weight loss and salary cap management?
You didnt do that though so why come in here...:confusedshrug:
Reality is, Duhon is a bit part. If he joined the Raps to backup Jose I wouldn't be too excited, especially for the MLE, I would be pretty pissed.
wanna cookie...
for the knicks he's a bit part as well... no one saying he's the second coming of anything spectacular. The Knicks needed a point guard that can bring the ball up, dish the rock, and play defense. Thats what they got.
I hope they dont buy Marbury out considering their are no other point guards on the roster... That would be pure stupidity. Let them compete for minutes thats a great motivational tool for both players to perform. I am not happy about the prospect of Nate Robinson and Marty Collins backing him up and I dont like the idea of Crawford moving to the point to spell Duhon. This would be just another dumb basketball move by the Knicks. IMHO:cheers:
RapsFan
07-05-2008, 07:19 AM
You didnt do that though so why come in here...:confusedshrug:
wanna cookie...
for the knicks he's a bit part as well... no one saying he's the second coming of anything spectacular. The Knicks needed a point guard that can bring the ball up, dish the rock, and play defense. Thats what they got.
I think you missed the previous posts. I said it wasn't a big signing, a bit player on a bad team. A response to that was how the Raptors are a bad team, which I found irrelevant to this thread. This isn't a Knicks Forum thread....
I don't like the signing at all from a financial standpoint. Yes it's less years, but he's going to be making next year probably what Cory Maggette is making next year. Duhon just isn't very good at that price, for any team.
NY-Knicks
07-05-2008, 08:03 AM
that's true Rapsfan, but do we have lots of options?
no cap, bad team............
Bombay
07-05-2008, 08:04 AM
i like this signing by the knicks... shows their committed to putting a better product on the court and at the same time not forgetting to keep their finances under control.
:cheers: agreed
RapsFan
07-05-2008, 09:05 AM
that's true Rapsfan, but do we have lots of options?
no cap, bad team............
I read today that Marbury is close to being as good as gone. Instead of Duhon, who couldn't outplay Hinrich on a bad Chicago team (when Hinrich was playing brutal), for the full MLE (2 yrs), why not see what D'Antoni could do with Marbury. It's not like the Knicks are built to be a good defensive team so adding a PG that's biggest strength is D.....:confusedshrug:
Duhon seems like a $3 mill per type player max. Aren't the Knicks over the tax? So this is basically like paying Duhon $12 mill per year.
The Knicks needed a placeholder pg to run the offense. They got it. They don't want Marbury around, he's a total cancer. Giving him a chance to prove himself? For what? To sucker them in to keeping him around?
and no one should ever throw out cash outlays for the Knicks, unless you are worried about their finances. If they don't care about spending $12m, why do you?
if you think Duhon would be better at 3 than 5 WOOHOO. Have a cookie. Who cares? Its the same to the garden. it doesnt change the cap in any one year, and just affects cash outlay, which again unless you are a cablevision shareholder you shouldnt care about.
the knicks needed a pg at the midlevel that could run the sun style offense and they got one. i dont see any other out there. its only 2 years, and doenst affect the cap in any way. how is this at all a bad move?
RapsFan
07-05-2008, 10:07 AM
if you think Duhon would be better at 3 than 5 WOOHOO. Have a cookie. Who cares? Its the same to the garden. it doesnt change the cap in any one year, and just affects cash outlay, which again unless you are a cablevision shareholder you shouldnt care about.
the knicks needed a pg at the midlevel that could run the sun style offense and they got one. i dont see any other out there. its only 2 years, and doenst affect the cap in any way. how is this at all a bad move?
So no signing matters in NY? Is that why they are at their current situation. It matters to being able to make your roster better, and not having the signing of Chris Duhon you major offseason roster move.
And Duhon can't run a Suns style...are you kidding me. That guy is probably the slowest PG in the entire league. Duhon, $24 mill for 2 years after the tax is a bad signing, for any team. Because the Knicks have huge revenue doesn't give them a free pass. I know Knicks fans are looking for anything positive, but you can't say you're happy with using your major financial asset in the offseason to sign a career backup PG.
bagelred
07-05-2008, 10:37 AM
Why are people bashing this move for Knicks?
The Knicks only had one point guard on their roster, Marbury, who they ideally don't want. Marbury has only one year left and they are not resigning him. The Knicks need, at worst, a backup for Marbury and at best, a replacement. Duhon was the best option out there.
He's only signed for two years so it doesn't affect 2010. They didn't have to give up any assets, like a David Lee, to get him. So the downside? Some luxury tax money. You think Cablevision is really THAT worried about it? Please....
So no signing matters in NY? Is that why they are at their current situation. It matters to being able to make your roster better, and not having the signing of Chris Duhon you major offseason roster move.
And Duhon can't run a Suns style...are you kidding me. That guy is probably the slowest PG in the entire league. Duhon, $24 mill for 2 years after the tax is a bad signing, for any team. Because the Knicks have huge revenue doesn't give them a free pass. I know Knicks fans are looking for anything positive, but you can't say you're happy with using your major financial asset in the offseason to sign a career backup PG.
not no signing, im saying cash implications. bashing duhon for costing the knicks 12 for luxury tax rather than 6 is bashing just to bash. the extra 6 affects NOTHING except cablevisions bottom line. lots of people liek to say that to sound smart but it doesnt affect ANYTHING.
who else is out there right now that the knicks can get to run the point for 2 years or less?
Blue&Orange
07-05-2008, 11:58 AM
Nate the only PG the Knicks have? Let's take a look at Mardy Collins numbers Vs Jason Kidd.
42.5 mpg, 38% FG, 44% 3P, 9.5 RB, 6 Ass, 22 PPG, 1 ST, 3 TO.
This was at the end of his rookie season, where he almost had a triple double a couple of times, before he had surgery.
I don't believe Duhon had this numbers against anybody in his rookie season, let alone against Kidd.
lawlerslaw100
07-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Donny Walsh and Mike D Antoni will build a winner out of the Knicks.
This is one of the first moves. Don't expect much out of them
this year. The Knicks will be a playoff team in 2010, the second
year of rebuilding.:cheers:
SHEED_ gangsta
07-06-2008, 01:23 AM
oh no not DUHON the knicks are gonna be unstoppible
Rameek
07-06-2008, 04:54 AM
Donny Walsh and Mike D Antoni will build a winner out of the Knicks.
This is one of the first moves. Don't expect much out of them
this year. The Knicks will be a playoff team in 2010, the second
year of rebuilding.:cheers:
I want to get to .500 and if they do more I will be ecstatic:cheers:
If we dont keep Marbury though and have Nate and Mardy as back up PG's or using Crawford at PG dont think .500 is possible...:banghead:
Detroitguy113
07-06-2008, 11:00 PM
Got to see Duhon play against the Pistons when they came to the Palace mid-season. Good shooter and good speed, but didn't get much of a chance in that packed backcourt. Great pickup for the Knicks right now IMO.
WoGiTaLiA1
07-07-2008, 09:08 AM
Donnie Walsh already has the Knicks further towards winning that Isiah managed in his stay and Layden before that.
Great signing, only way it would have been better would be to lock him up long term, at worst he is a very good backup PG, with the right guys around him he is a very servicable starter.
Got to see Duhon play against the Pistons when they came to the Palace mid-season. Good shooter and good speed, but didn't get much of a chance in that packed backcourt. Great pickup for the Knicks right now IMO.
wtf...i see this all over the internet. In no way possible would Duhon ever qualify as a good shooter unless he has a career night. The guy straight blows in all facets of scoring. His defenders respected him so little, they wouldn't even guard him. They'd just leave him to double Ben Gordon or Luol Deng. Duhon would just sit behind the arch bricking 3 after 3. Duhon sucks at scoring. He is undersized, and slow for a PG compared to Kirk Hinrich, Larry Hughes, and Derrick Rose. What Duhon does well is defend (to some degree) and pass the ball. He can easily get worked in the post by bigger PG's like Baron Davis and Chauncey Billups because Chris Duhon is small. Plus he developed an attitude problem last year as well as his current drinking problem. He's got his downfalls but could be a capable back up. The fact that the Knicks will start him is downright hilarious and shows how bad that team really is. They seem to take Chicago Bull rejects and insert them directly into their starting line up. 60% of NY's starters are Chicago Bull REJECTS.
With a starting backcourt of Duhon-Crawford, the Knicks' guards will struggle to hit on 40% of their field goals game in and game out. Who will do the scoring? It's going to be funny watching D'Antoni suck it up for atleast the next 2 years as it is evident by this signing that new york doesn't think it can contend until atleast 2010.
Detroitguy113
07-07-2008, 12:33 PM
wtf...i see this all over the internet. In no way possible would Duhon ever qualify as a good shooter unless he has a career night. The guy straight blows in all facets of scoring. His defenders respected him so little, they wouldn't even guard him. They'd just leave him to double Ben Gordon or Luol Deng. Duhon would just sit behind the arch bricking 3 after 3. Duhon sucks at scoring. He is undersized, and slow for a PG compared to Kirk Hinrich, Larry Hughes, and Derrick Rose. What Duhon does well is defend (to some degree) and pass the ball. He can easily get worked in the post by bigger PG's like Baron Davis and Chauncey Billups because Chris Duhon is small. Plus he developed an attitude problem last year as well as his current drinking problem. He's got his downfalls but could be a capable back up. The fact that the Knicks will start him is downright hilarious and shows how bad that team really is. They seem to take Chicago Bull rejects and insert them directly into their starting line up. 60% of NY's starters are Chicago Bull REJECTS.
With a starting backcourt of Duhon-Crawford, the Knicks' guards will struggle to hit on 40% of their field goals game in and game out. Who will do the scoring? It's going to be funny watching D'Antoni suck it up for atleast the next 2 years as it is evident by this signing that new york doesn't think it can contend until atleast 2010.
I agree he would get beatup by BD, Billups... maybe. He is undersized.. but so is Chris Paul and Allen Iverson. I'm not saying he'll ever be as good as either, but if these guys were never given a chance to start while just saying their too small, they would be buried on a depth chart somewhere. Duhon has definetly earned his chance to start somewhere, and the Knicks seem like a good fit.
I never said he was a great shooter, but he does have the range to hit some big shots. He's a much better three point shooter than a lot of solid starting PG's in the league, and that ability will also spread the floor for low post players like Gallinari and Randolph. Kind of a risk-reward because Walsh is giving him $12 million for 2 years without being a proven starter at the NBA level, but Duhon deserved his chance to be starting PG somewhere at sometime.
Inspector Rick
07-07-2008, 07:14 PM
Duhons tenure with the Bulls didnt play out like I had expected. In crunch time the guy seems to lose his mind and make the most horrible play you can imagine. It's like he's playing for the other team.
Which is strange because I thought Duh would be one of the most head strong PG's in league. Like a Stockton-lite. Maybe Kirk Hinrich was spiking his gatorade or something.
:confusedshrug:
insidehoops
07-08-2008, 12:33 PM
Bump
franchize
07-08-2008, 07:31 PM
If we dont keep Marbury though and have Nate and Mardy as back up PG's or using Crawford at PG dont think .500 is possible...
So if we have a full season of what we had last year is basically what your saying right?
lmao :oldlol: when is the madness going to end?What drugs are some of you on cuz I haven't done drugs but if they can trip you out that much to say stuff like this and actually believe it,maybe I should partake a la Dewey Cox.
Rameek
07-09-2008, 03:00 AM
So if we have a full season of what we had last year is basically what your saying right?
lmao :oldlol: when is the madness going to end?What drugs are some of you on cuz I haven't done drugs but if they can trip you out that much to say stuff like this and actually believe it,maybe I should partake a la Dewey Cox.
You believe a season without Marbury on the roster and the only back up PG's are Nate, Mardy and moving Crawford to the point, the Knicks CAN be .500 or over .500?:confusedshrug:
Lucy you gots some splaining to do?:eek:
KnicksFan11
07-10-2008, 02:10 PM
I don't think the Knicks will be able to trade Randolph before the season starts :confusedshrug:
NY-Knicks
07-10-2008, 02:20 PM
I don't think the Knicks will be able to trade Randolph before the season starts :confusedshrug:
Probably not, but I would love to see it happen
knickscity
07-10-2008, 07:30 PM
Duhons tenure with the Bulls didnt play out like I had expected. In crunch time the guy seems to lose his mind and make the most horrible play you can imagine. It's like he's playing for the other team.
Which is strange because I thought Duh would be one of the most head strong PG's in league. Like a Stockton-lite. Maybe Kirk Hinrich was spiking his gatorade or something.
:confusedshrug:
Kind of what i was thinking. The guy needs a chance to shine which is what he will get with the Knicks.
I wouldn't have dropped of 6 mil a season for him though.
franchize
07-19-2008, 11:19 AM
You believe a season without Marbury on the roster and the only back up PG's are Nate, Mardy and moving Crawford to the point, the Knicks CAN be .500 or over .500?
Lucy you gots some splaining to do?
no....I believe we are going to stink.I was disagreeing with the people who said we could be good.I'm probably the biggest Marbury fan in the Knicks forum.
knickballer
12-08-2008, 06:31 PM
JPR making a fool out of himself
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