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kidachi
07-18-2008, 12:10 PM
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb53/FcukThePolice/jameswadeheat.jpg

your thoughts?

highwhey
07-18-2008, 12:41 PM
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KeylessEntry
07-18-2008, 12:42 PM
Ask Jordan and Pippen what they think.

LBJames2010
07-18-2008, 12:42 PM
wait for the olympics?

BFRESH44
07-18-2008, 12:43 PM
Hell yes. And it's going to happen. 2010. Book it. Heat will have nothing on the books except Wade and Beasley's rookie scale deal.


The King had one hell of time with D.Wade, Riles, and Riles' wife Chris last weekend at the ZSG events .

highwhey
07-18-2008, 12:48 PM
Hell yes. And it's going to happen. 2010. Book it.


The King had one hell of time with D.Wade, Riles, and Riles' wife Chris last weekend at the ZSG events .

Did he bang Riley's wife or what?

BFRESH44
07-18-2008, 12:52 PM
Na, but he did bring her out to center court during the Groove Basketball game "danceoff", and danced with her.

There's clearly a close and established relationship among Wade and Riley with Bron. :pimp:

Sicko
07-18-2008, 01:02 PM
If they do play together in 2010 (highly unlikely)
Were do they rank on All-Time NBA Duos?
My Top 5 In no particular order.
Jordan and Pippen-6 Titles
Shaq and Kobe-3 Titles
Russel and Cousy-6 Titles
Magic and Kareem-5 Titles
Stockton and Malone-18 Straight Playoff Years

I dont know if Wade and Lebron would be in the Top 5
:confusedshrug:

veilside23
07-18-2008, 01:07 PM
yes if ai & melo played together i see no problem bron is a 3 AI is a combo guard.

stewen12
07-18-2008, 01:12 PM
Hell yes. And it's going to happen. 2010. Book it. Heat will have nothing on the books except Wade and Beasley's rookie scale deal.


The King had one hell of time with D.Wade, Riles, and Riles' wife Chris last weekend at the ZSG events .
for sure. Gonna sign people for small contracts. Can sign bron and wade to 20mil a year contracts

Wade + Bron>> Pierce + Allen + KG

Lebron23
07-18-2008, 01:13 PM
The Best Scoring Duo in the 21st Century. :D

Sicko
07-18-2008, 01:18 PM
Will they win more titles than Kobe and Shaq if they play together?
:confusedshrug:

BlazersDozen
07-18-2008, 03:38 PM
No, They don't compliment eachother

They basically play the same style. Get the ball in their hands, work for their shot, which is usually driving to the basket and drawing a foul, dunking or lay up. Neither are jump shooters.

Pippen was the guy trying to getting to the basket while Jordan had the jumper in his arsenal.

brandonislegend
07-18-2008, 03:44 PM
No, They don't compliment eachother

They basically play the same style. Get the ball in their hands, work for their shot, which is usually driving to the basket and drawing a foul, dunking or lay up. Neither are jump shooters.

Pippen was the guy trying to getting to the basket while Jordan had the jumper in his arsenal.

took the words out of my mouth.

picc84
07-18-2008, 03:46 PM
No, They don't compliment eachother

They basically play the same style. Get the ball in their hands, work for their shot, which is usually driving to the basket and drawing a foul, dunking or lay up. Neither are jump shooters.

Pippen was the guy trying to getting to the basket while Jordan had the jumper in his arsenal.

Trying to figure out how to make Wade and Lebron work together.

What a nice problem to have.

Probably the most awesome problem in the nba.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Lebron would need to learn to play a different style; i.e. without the ball in his hands 100% of the time...not initiating the offense. DWade would initiate and run the show.

That said, I believe they would co-exist very well. They are both willing passers, so I think they could both adapt as needed.

To be Champions, though, they would still need the appropriate pieces around them...namely, a low-post scoring threat and post defense.

Sharas
07-18-2008, 03:53 PM
i'll put it like this - they could "coexist" as neither is selfish, but they couldn't "compliment" each other well since their games are too similar.

Sicko
07-18-2008, 03:58 PM
Lebron would need to learn to play a different style; i.e. without the ball in his hands 100% of the time...not initiating the offense. DWade would initiate and run the show.

That said, I believe they would co-exist very well. They are both willing passers, so I think they could both adapt as needed.

To be Champions, though, they would still need the appropriate pieces around them...namely, a low-post scoring threat and post defense[/B][/B].

So do you think Wade and Lebron along with Beasley would win 3 or more championships.

stephanieg
07-18-2008, 05:01 PM
To be Champions, though, they would still need the appropriate pieces around them...namely, a low-post scoring threat and post defense.

LeBron can be their low-post scoring threat.

OK, bad joke.

bleedinpurpleTwo
07-18-2008, 05:11 PM
So do you think Wade and Lebron along with Beasley would win 3 or more championships.

No.
Beasley is not the answer for low-post scoring and post defense.
For now, Beasley is something of a "tweener". We will have wait and see if he can consistently score from the low post in the NBA.

Trax416
07-18-2008, 05:12 PM
All you need is Ginobli and you have the big three, floppers.

shaoyut
07-18-2008, 06:01 PM
Ask Jordan and Pippen what they think.
:cheers:

Paladin55
07-18-2008, 06:29 PM
People asked the same question when the Knicks traded for Earl Monroe and ended up with a backcourt of Monroe and Clyde Frazier. Both guys were used to having the ball especially when it counted. No problems as far as I can remember. They both gave up a little of their game and ended up with 1 championship, and if Reed had never been injured they would have had 1 or 2 more.

Another example would be Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Chamberlain. They all gave up a bit of their game to have a better team with the Lakers. Didn't win a title, but played quite well together.

Wade and James are different than some of the combinations mentioned because they are both used to having the ball. Shaq, Russell, Kareem, and Malone didn't need to dribble the ball that much- when they got it, it was time to shoot or pass. They did not have to handle it for too long. Pippen was always willing to defer to Jordan, and seemed quite content with being the number 2 guy from what I saw, but then again, Pippen came to the Bulls when Jordan was the man, and there was no doubt who would ultimately control things.

Why not throw Beasley into the mix, too. He is another guy who likes the ball. How would all 3 fit together?

Jasper
07-18-2008, 06:34 PM
No, They don't compliment eachother

They basically play the same style. Get the ball in their hands, work for their shot, which is usually driving to the basket and drawing a foul, dunking or lay up. Neither are jump shooters.

Pippen was the guy trying to getting to the basket while Jordan had the jumper in his arsenal.

As others have stated - good point.
But Melo Bron , nope
But Melo wade , nope

I give the nod to Bron and Wade.
And this is the reason - They said Earl the Pearl and Clyde would not work.
Education - - - veterans' working together.
In Bron and Wades case ...
I believe you'll see Wade go less to the basket in his veteran years , and if he is playing on the other side of the floor from Bron - no double teams !
But if you put slasher / jumper on the same side of the floor as slasher / jumper you have bumber pool.
That's why Jefferson feels he will mesh better with Redd compared to Vince because Jefferson and Vince like to slash.

2010/11 will be interesting .

BlazersDozen
07-18-2008, 07:18 PM
Definitly agree with Bron/Melo - No and Melo/Wade - No

BUT!

You put a outside threat and post guys who can stretch the defense like Joe Smith, Rasheed Wallace, LaMarcus Aldridge. And point guard who can penetrate and kick it out, and contribute plus a center who can grab boards and alter shots on a little on a team with LeBron or Wade then you have a contender.

Something like this...

Jose Calderon
Michael Redd
LeBron James/Dwyane Wade
Rasheed Wallace
Desagna Diop

That team would make the Finals in the East IMO.

Buffalobraves
07-18-2008, 09:05 PM
Definitly agree with Bron/Melo - No and Melo/Wade - No

BUT!

You put a outside threat and post guys who can stretch the defense like Joe Smith, Rasheed Wallace, LaMarcus Aldridge. And point guard who can penetrate and kick it out, and contribute plus a center who can grab boards and alter shots on a little on a team with LeBron or Wade then you have a contender.

Something like this...

Jose Calderon
Michael Redd
LeBron James/Dwyane Wade
Rasheed Wallace
Desagna Diop

That team would make the Finals in the East IMO.

Thats some serious cash.

CavaliersFTW
04-04-2015, 01:24 AM
Good question OP, not sure :D

J Shuttlesworth
04-04-2015, 01:27 AM
I don't think a single one of these posters is still active here

really says something about the quality of this forum :lol

nice bump though, cavsftw :applause:

CavaliersFTW
04-04-2015, 01:33 AM
I don't think a single one of these posters is still active here

really says something about the quality of this forum :lol

nice bump though, cavsftw :applause:
I think quality of discussion would increase if registration stayed open so there is a constant influx of new people to discuss basketball. Mods can ban, if an obvious alt or gimmick is obvious, just ban it. We may still be ahead of the RGM curve but r/NBA has blown us out the water in popularity in recent years.

SouBeachTalents
04-04-2015, 01:33 AM
They'd probably win 2 titles, in the weak east make 4 or so Finals in a row

J Shuttlesworth
04-04-2015, 01:38 AM
I think quality of discussion would increase if registration stayed open so there is a constant influx of new people to discuss basketball. Mods can ban, if an obvious alt or gimmick is obvious, just ban it. We may still be ahead of the RGM curve but r/NBA has blown us out the water in popularity in recent years.
I don't get why registration isn't constantly open. More users = more people clicking on pages, and seeing ads, and jeff getting money. Makes no sense, unless his servers just aren't powerful enough to handle the influx

3ball
04-04-2015, 01:41 AM
The Heat were a historic collection of talent.

Can you imagine Larry Bird taking his talents to Chicago to play with the best SG in the league, and then having Barkley come join them too?

That's what happened with Lebron.. and he only went 2/4 after promising a multiple of that.. inexcusable.. :facepalm

SouBeachTalents
04-04-2015, 01:42 AM
The Heat were a historic collection of talent.

Can you imagine Larry Bird taking his talents to Chicago to play with the best SG in the league, and then having Barkley come join them too?

That's what happened with Lebron.. and he only went 2/4 after promising a multiple of that.. inexcusable.. :facepalm

:oldlol: at comparing Barkley to Bosh

3ball
04-04-2015, 01:43 AM
:oldlol: at comparing Barkley to Bosh
i thought that might draw some ire.

how about Kemp then.. or Derrick Coleman?.. or anyone that was averaging 24/12 like Bosh was.

i think the point remains..

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-04-2015, 01:48 AM
All you need is Ginobli and you have the big three, floppers.
bran was notorious for floppin back in 08:lol :lol :lol

rlsmooth775
04-04-2015, 01:48 AM
i thought that might draw some ire.

how about Kemp then.. or Derrick Coleman?.. or anyone that was averaging 24/12 like Bosh was.

i think the point remains..

Who cares they dont play anymore

J Shuttlesworth
04-04-2015, 01:50 AM
i thought that might draw some ire.

how about Kemp then.. or Derrick Coleman?.. or anyone that was averaging 24/12 like Bosh was.

i think the point remains..
But wait, I thought you say that this eras stats are inflated due to weak defense? 24/12 in this era = like 15/5 in your eyes

3ball
04-04-2015, 01:56 AM
:oldlol: at comparing Barkley to Bosh


Or let's face it, wade to jordan.

It's funny how we always have to make excuses for today's players because they aren't as good (i.e wade < mj... bosh < everyone, etc.).. today's players are just flat-out weaker... there's literally 10 bigs from any previous era that are better than today's 2nd best big.. the SF's were WAY better and the SG's had an edge too.

The only position where today's game has an advantage is point guard - and the advantage isn't that big (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353476).
.

hahaitme
04-04-2015, 02:09 AM
I think quality of discussion would increase if registration stayed open so there is a constant influx of new people to discuss basketball. Mods can ban, if an obvious alt or gimmick is obvious, just ban it. We may still be ahead of the RGM curve but r/NBA has blown us out the water in popularity in recent years.

this is because reddit is essentially community moderated. spite and troll posts/threads get downvoted and hidden or sent to the bottom while good thoughtful posts are sent to the top

whereas on ISH, someone makes a troll thread to bait lebron/kobe/kd/jordan fans and it goes to 50 pages :facepalm

tomtucker
04-04-2015, 02:15 AM
I think quality of discussion would increase if registration stayed open so there is a constant influx of new people to discuss basketball. .
:applause:

tomtucker
04-04-2015, 02:18 AM
The Heat were a historic collection of talent.

Can you imagine Larry Bird taking his talents to Chicago to play with the best SG in the league, and then having Barkley come join them too?

That's what happened with Lebron.. and he only went 2/4 after promising a multiple of that.. inexcusable.. :facepalm

the homo promised 4-5-6 rings for miami........but little known fact: it was cockrings he wanted, so he had to go to Cleveland........:biggums:

warriorfan
04-04-2015, 02:38 AM
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb53/FcukThePolice/jameswadeheat.jpg

your thoughts?


07-18-2008, 10:10 AM

niggadomus :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

dubeta
04-04-2015, 02:47 AM
It wasnt a duo, it was just lebron

Before someone tries to disagree and spew up nonsense bring up Wade's 2013 and 2014 playoffs stats pls.

CavaliersFTW
04-04-2015, 02:53 AM
It wasnt a duo, it was just lebron

Before someone tries to disagree and spew up nonsense bring up Wade's 2013 and 2014 playoffs stats pls.
Better than Lebron's 2011 Finals stats that's for sure.

dubeta
04-04-2015, 02:55 AM
Better than Lebron's 2011 Finals stats that's for sure.

It actually wasnt :oldlol:

LeBron - 18, 7, 7 on 47% shooting

Wade 2013 - 15, 4, 4

Wade 2014 - 19, 5, 5

So LeBron was still better


If you want to see disappointing Finals stats I would kindly direct you to some Wilt Achives

ABfor3
04-04-2015, 02:58 AM
2/4 though

SouBeachTalents
04-04-2015, 03:00 AM
It actually wasnt :oldlol:

LeBron - 18, 7, 7 on 47% shooting

Wade 2013 - 15, 4, 4

Wade 2014 - 19, 5, 5

So LeBron was still better


If you want to see disappointing Finals stats I would kindly direct you to some Wilt Achives

Wilt NEVER had a Finals ppg drop off worse than LeBron's in 2011


James's 17.8 points per game in the Finals was the largest drop off in points from a regular season to an NBA Finals (down 8.9 points from 26.7) in NBA history. He only averaged three points in the fourth quarters in the series, and he received the brunt of the criticism for the team's loss to Dallas

dubeta
04-04-2015, 03:03 AM
Wilt NEVER had a Finals ppg drop off worse than LeBron's in 2011


So? Wilt probably has the career record for PPG dropoff from regular season to Finals (30 to 18 ppg)

I'll take the guy who only did it once than a career 12 point drop off thank you

SaltyMeatballs
04-04-2015, 03:05 AM
Talk about a super late bumb :oldlol:

Should've been bumped after the 2012 finals.

SaltyMeatballs
04-04-2015, 03:06 AM
2/4 though
In 4 years, which is really impressive :applause:

Nash
04-04-2015, 03:41 AM
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb53/FcukThePolice/jameswadeheat.jpg

your thoughts?
http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/elite-daily-dwyane-wade-lebron-james-champions-899226.jpg

warriorfan
04-04-2015, 03:46 AM
LeBron - 18, 7, 7 on 47% shooting








:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

julizaver
04-04-2015, 04:40 AM
I think quality of discussion would increase if registration stayed open so there is a constant influx of new people to discuss basketball. Mods can ban, if an obvious alt or gimmick is obvious, just ban it. We may still be ahead of the RGM curve but r/NBA has blown us out the water in popularity in recent years.

Nice bump, a real discussion about basketball without current "key words": alpha, beta, insecure, 2/5 ... and KG giff.

Real14
04-04-2015, 05:10 AM
http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/elite-daily-dwyane-wade-lebron-james-champions-899226.jpg

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/wade-sad-2.gif

http://www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/855832237.gif

dubeta
04-04-2015, 05:12 AM
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/wade-sad-2.gif

http://www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/855832237.gif

http://main.donthatemiami.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/photo-3.jpg

Real14
04-04-2015, 05:24 AM
http://main.donthatemiami.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/photo-3.jpg

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f689ae8e6402393e11f41d2e4199c66aa8143c16cc1d511231 9dbc1ffa74b570.jpg

dubeta
04-04-2015, 05:26 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f689ae8e6402393e11f41d2e4199c66aa8143c16cc1d511231 9dbc1ffa74b570.jpg

PM me, little boy

JohnFreeman
04-04-2015, 05:26 AM
http://main.donthatemiami.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/photo-3.jpg
damn

Real14
04-04-2015, 05:31 AM
PM me, little boy
:biggums:

SwayDizzle
04-04-2015, 05:39 AM
incredible run by the Bron Heat. 2/4 is the third best possible scenario in a 4 year time span. him leaving a team that made it 4 straight times to the finals is borderline genius. he knew that team could no longer win after that. there's a reason why the core of a championship team does not continue winning for long. other teams build up and have had the time and experience to figure out how the reigning champion plays.

SouBeachTalents
04-04-2015, 06:15 AM
https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/wade-sad-2.gif

http://www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/855832237.gif

Knicks championships highlights of the past 40 years

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/vetegr/BlackScreen.gif