What happen to carmelo Anthony

[juju151111]

Melo is not the same since 2 years ago..He has gotten fatter,slower, and less athlethic the last few years.He used to could finish around the basket and know he just gets blocked in every gm.Wat happen to the melo of 06 who could actually drive pass people,hit game winners, and get the best of LJ.All he does now for denver is stay around the midrange area and shoots jumpers.
watch this video and compare him to 08 melo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08weL3dRA8U faster and more explosive.

[Y2Gezee]

Carmelo just had his best season ever and is in great shape. Grow up

[Undisputed]

Melo is not the same since 2 years ago..He has gotten fatter,slower, and less athlethic the last few years.He used to could finish around the basket and know he just gets blocked in every gm.Wat happen to the melo of 06 who could actually drive pass people,hit game winners, and get the best of LJ.All he does now for denver is stay around the midrange area and shoots jumpers.
watch this video and compare him to 08 melo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08weL3dRA8U faster and more explosive.

I've also noticed the change in Melo. No one can say but those who know him, as to the cause. As an observer, there is a difference in play.

[Luigi]

He is putting on weight to move to the 4 so Kleiza can start at 3...:lol

[juju151111]

Carmelo just had his best season ever and is in great shape. Grow up
LOL did u actually watch Denver??All he does is stay and take midrange shots which doesn't cut it in playoffs.05 to early 07 was carmelo best athlethic prime.He plays like a slow powerfoward in the paint now. He has put on weight since that season.

[juju151111]

I've also noticed the change in Melo. No one can say but those who know him, as to the cause. As an observer, there is a difference in play.
Just look at his face and body in 06 and compare to him now.I have no clue why he didn't keep his weight steady.He was improving every season and this also hurt his defense because he guards the sf position.

[hawkfan]

He hasn't improved on defense and leadership.

He has the talent to lead his team to the Finals, but he hasn't mentally put it together.

[highwhey]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj157/GONEJONES/weed.jpg

i'm talking about the Lays in the backround of the picture, not the weed :rolleyes:

[juju151111]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj157/GONEJONES/weed.jpg

i'm talking about the Lays in the backround of the picture, not the weed :rolleyes:
:roll: :oldlol: :applause:

[ruslan]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj157/GONEJONES/weed.jpg

i'm talking about the Lays in the backround of the picture, not the weed :rolleyes:

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

melo is a bum, big dog v.2 :confusedshrug:

[Richie2k6]

Melo isn't fat, chubby or overweight. Somebody post that link of Melo doing intense workouts.

[1~Gibson~1]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj157/GONEJONES/weed.jpg

i'm talking about the Lays in the backround of the picture, not the weed :rolleyes:f*** weed, i just want cotton candy. i think its a new flavor. :D

[ruslan]

Melo isn't fat, chubby or overweight. Somebody post that link of Melo doing intense workouts.

melo may not be what u clasify fat, but he needs to lose couple of lbs to be more quick, faster, and harder to guard. w/e he still missing heart and passion. the mind isnt there yet.

[JellyBean]

Nothing. The brother is still deadly has ever. I look at it this way; Melo is expanding is game.

[KRAYZIE]

LOL did u actually watch Denver??All he does is stay and take midrange shots which doesn't cut it in playoffs.05 to early 07 was carmelo best athlethic prime.He plays like a slow powerfoward in the paint now. He has put on weight since that season.
You're right about one thing. Melo has put on a little weight and it's definetly noticeable, but to say that "all he does now is stay and take midrange shots" is not true. He still does all of what you mentioned in your 1st post {minus game winning shots} you probably just don't see it as much. With Melo, I see improvements in his game every year, except it's only one-sided. The real problem with Melo isn't his offense, but rather his defense and while players in his class like LeBron & Wade have evolved their all around game, Melo hasn't done so and I think that's what you're really noticing about him.



Just look at his face and body in 06 and compare to him now.I have no clue why he didn't keep his weight steady.He was improving every season and this also hurt his defense because he guards the sf position.

You can put some blame on the coach for that one. George Karl definetly gives his players way too much freedom. Infact, Melo isn't the only player who's put on some weight, guys like Andre Miller and Nene in the past have always shown up overweight to camp. To bad Karl isn't like Pat Riley, who actually disciplines his players into shape. :(

[juju151111]

Melo isn't fat, chubby or overweight. Somebody post that link of Melo doing intense workouts.
he is in shape in terms of conditioning, but his added weight slows him down and hurts his defense even more.

[lilojmayo]

one thing happened to melo and thats was AI

Melo is still the shyt tho just watch team usa him and kobe going to lead us to gold

[juju151111]

You're right about one thing. Melo has put on a little weight and it's definetly noticeable, but to say that "all he does now is stay and take midrange shots" is not true. He still does all of what you mentioned in your 1st post {minus game winning shots} you probably just don't see it as much. With Melo, I see improvements in his game every year, except it's only one-sided. The real problem with Melo isn't his offense, but rather his defense and while players in his class like LeBron & Wade have evolved their all around game, Melo hasn't done so and I think that's what you're really noticing about him.




You can put some blame on the coach for that one. George Karl definetly gives his players way too much freedom. Infact, Melo isn't the only player who's put on some weight, guys like Andre Miller and Nene in the past have always shown up overweight to camp. To bad Karl isn't like Pat Riley, who actually disciplines his players into shape. :(
U seriously telling me Melo is still this explosive off his first step? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08weL3dRA8U I agree with everything else u said tho.His 3 point shot has gotten better and rebounding, but he could of improve thse things without putting on weight.

[Richie2k6]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U7XmuKmT5c

Plenty of explosiveness and athleticism there.

[KRAYZIE]

U seriously telling me Melo is still this explosive off his first step? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08weL3dRA8U I agree with everything else u said tho.His 3 point shot has gotten better and rebounding, but he could of improve thse things without putting on weight.
Who cares if he isn't as explosive as he was back then with off his 1st step, especially when has that sweet, sweet, jab step. :pimp:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U7XmuKmT5c

Plenty of explosiveness and athleticism there.
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[lilojmayo]

Who cares if he isn't as explosive as he was back then with off his 1st step, especially when has that sweet, sweet, jab step. :pimp:


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melo is still the same player its Allen Iverson thats the Cancer holding Melo Back b4 Iverson showed up in 06 Melo was averaging 30ppg let me repeat that melo was average 30ppg since then he is only average 24ppg you tell me whats the problem

[GOBB]

Yoiu guys are too hard on Melo. Dude is a top 10 player imo. Sure there are parts about his game that need to improve. But tell me Lebron doesnt need improvement or D.Wade (whom I'm a big fan of). Whose defense is better. D.Wade or Melo? To me both stink, Wade has the potential to be a better defender but so does Melo. And while Bron improved his jumper I'm not a fan of his midrange game/shot. Melo/Wade are better to me in that area. I often use Wade/Bron when talkin Melo since they are from the same class. But Melo gets a raw deal. Dude is one of the games most explosive scorers. Remove AI from Denver and he easily avg 30ppg+. This big dog crap I dont like because Big Dog couldnt score like Carmelo can. And Carmelo is still young believe it or not.

24yrs old.

[miles berg]

Carmelo isnt gaining weight, he's growing up. His face is filling out. Like GOBB said, he is just now 24 years old, he was a kid when he was introduced to the nation at Syracuse. A kid.

Not every kid looks like a 35 year old man like LeBron and Oden. Carmelo looked like a kid when he was a kid, he is just growing up and his face is filling out.

The guy isnt fat.

[Mateo]

He doesn't care about anything other than his own points total, and never will.

[KRAYZIE]

melo is still the same player its Allen Iverson thats the Cancer holding Melo Back b4 Iverson showed up in 06 Melo was averaging 30ppg let me repeat that melo was average 30ppg since then he is only average 24ppg you tell me whats the problem
The problem is that since Iverson arrived, he has improved in his fg%, rebounding, steals, & 3-pt%. So what if he's not scoring 30 ppg, it's not all about scoring, I'm glad that he is showing some improvements in the other aspects of his game and not just on points.

[*LeBron*23*]

What happened to him is he's gotten better, stronger, and better at defense.

[Mateo]

What happened to him is he's gotten better, stronger, and better at defense.

That's the biggest crock of **** I've ever heard.

[Xiao Yao You]

while players in his class like LeBron & Wade

He's not even close to being in their class. That's the main problem right there. The guy is seriously overrated. He's a great scorer. He's not one of the great players.

[KRAYZIE]

He's not even close to being in their class. That's the main problem right there. The guy is seriously overrated. He's a great scorer. He's not one of the great players.
I was talking about his draft class, you know guys like LeBron and Wade were in it. :banghead:

[tsforthrees]

i have said this a million times, the addition of allen iverson has made carmelo anthony a mid range spot up shooter. before ai was here melo was the man, dominating in every game, getting to the hole, shooting mid range shots, dunkin on people, now he has to hang out on the perimeter while he watches ai control the ball. its a horrible situation and sheds melo in a bad light. its a shame that melo is wasting away his prime years watching the offense work through someone else. some people are just melo haters. i am a critic of melo, but to say he is overweight, doesn't care, is overrated, none of those are true. we have such a horrible atmosphere on our team. if he had the team to himself, like he did his first three and a half years, we would be fine, and he would be getting looked at in different ways then he is now.

[juju151111]

Who cares if he isn't as explosive as he was back then with off his 1st step, especially when has that sweet, sweet, jab step. :pimp:


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvHB0dcZ8M&feature=related

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6fH-Vn6aA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxluHBcOO5E&feature=related

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:banana:
he had that jab step in 06 too.My point is he is slower and doesn't finish around the basket has good anymore.

[juju151111]

What happened to him is he's gotten better, stronger, and better at defense.
better at defense??He gotten worse because he slower.Do u watch Denver gms he is not a good defender

[BrianScalabrine]

He just turned into Charles Barkley.

[BaronCeltics]

Just look at his face and body in 06 and compare to him now.I have no clue why he didn't keep his weight steady.He was improving every season and this also hurt his defense because he guards the sf position.
ill make a slight comparasin, probably not the best 1, but paul pierce, take a look at him. he started off slimmer, faster. now he's bulked up (he was 6'5" 6'6") now he is 6'7" and 235 pounds. HJe has obviously become a bit slower, but alot stronger and he can still play. i think carmelo is still improving and is a great player

[airchibundo507]

I think a lot of it has to do with the way defenses are playing him now. that highlight reel that the OP posted was from his rookie year...opposing teams didn't recognize him as the legit superstar scorer he is today. he was getting mostly single coverage and the driving lanes were wide open.

fastforward to today...defenses are packing the paint on him. he's had to adjust his offensive game. he was primarily a mid-range jump shooter his rookie year...and he'd play of his jumpshot to get to the basket. while I'll admit that he looks a little quicker and his ballhandling looks noticeably better...he's really perfected his post game in the last few years. he's got a nice fade-away jumper, drop step, spin move, etc.

plus...he really doesn't operate on the perimeter offensively anymore. he's really been forced to score from the post and about 15 ft out now in the denver offense.

but regardless of how his offense looks...he was a 43% FG scorer his rookie year...and now he's a 49% FG scorer. sure...AI has stunted his growth in a lot of areas...but he's still a top 3 scorer in the league and improving every year. if only denver could learn how to properly build a team around him. . .

[starface]

Yoiu guys are too hard on Melo. Dude is a top 10 player imo.


:(

what.

[Paladin55]

Soon he'll be considered overrated...

Might someday be seen as a smaller version of Zach Randolph?

[airchibundo507]

:(

what.

borderline.

[starface]

the problem with carmelo anthony is that he is not a professional. he does not take his job seriously. he is not mature.

lebron and wade work hard at their profession and you can tell they just are more focused and dedicated to their basketball careers in general. you can tell by their games, you can tell by their body language, and you can tell by their behavior/reputation off the court.

in this league, the grown ups win. look at squads like the spurs, pistons, celtics, lakers. look at the duncans and ginobili's, the kobe's and derek fisher's, the garnetts, hamiltons, etc. These are the players/teams that win championships. It's not a coincidence that those players and teams win, and teams with guys like Iverson and his fat buddy Carmelo, or guys like Stephon Marbury and Jamal Tinsley and Zach Randolph don't win. Iverson, Carmelo, Marbury, Tinsley, Randolph, are uber talented. And yet.......they suck. Cuz they're not grown up. They dont take their jobs seriously. They're slackers and have low bball IQ. That's why they don't win.

Carmelo is dumb, undisciplined, unmotivated, and uninterested. He's never gonna win a championship because he doesnt know how to play championship TEAM ball. All he is is a 1 on 1 player. Like Marbury, like Randolph, like all these other jokers. He's a waste. I wouldnt even want him on my team for free.

[ronnymac]

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Duncan
McGrady
Pierce
Wade
Yao
Dirk
Amare
Dwight
Are all above melo. he might be borderline top 15. noway in hell he's top 1`0

[airchibundo507]

the problem with carmelo anthony is that he is not a professional. he does not take his job seriously. he is not mature.

lebron and wade work hard at their profession and you can tell they just are more focused and dedicated to their basketball careers in general. you can tell by their games, you can tell by their body language, and you can tell by their behavior/reputation off the court.

in this league, the grown ups win. look at squads like the spurs, pistons, celtics, lakers. look at the duncans and ginobili's, the kobe's and derek fisher's, the garnetts, hamiltons, etc. These are the players/teams that win championships. It's not a coincidence that those players and teams win, and teams with guys like Iverson and his fat buddy Carmelo, or guys like Stephon Marbury and Jamal Tinsley and Zach Randolph don't win. Iverson, Carmelo, Marbury, Tinsley, Randolph, are uber talented. And yet.......they suck. Cuz they're not grown up. They dont take their jobs seriously. They're slackers and have low bball IQ. That's why they don't win.

Carmelo is dumb, undisciplined, unmotivated, and uninterested. He's never gonna win a championship because he doesnt know how to play championship TEAM ball. All he is is a 1 on 1 player. Like Marbury, like Randolph, like all these other jokers. He's a waste. I wouldnt even want him on my team for free.

you can attack melo by comparing him to lebron and wade all you'd like. I'll even be the first to admit that he's done a lot of stupid stuff off the court. but the point is that no one is comparing him to lebron or d-wade.

I love how you put melo in the same group as guys like iverson, marbury, randolph, etc. those guys are veterans...they aren't young...they've had time to grow up. melo is only 24 years old...and yes...immaturity is still an issue.

melo can't play championship team ball? c'mon...even sometimes kobe veers from playing within a "team" concept and goes back into chucker mode. and I'd love to hear how lebron plays championship "team" ball when the whole cleveland offense is pretty much lebron dominating the ball for 40 minutes a night.

[airchibundo507]

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Duncan
McGrady
Pierce
Wade
Yao
Dirk
Amare
Dwight
Are all above melo. he might be borderline top 15. noway in hell he's top 1`0

lebron, kobe, paul, duncan, garnett, wade, nash, dirk, dwight, williams...

probably the only players I'd put above melo.

injuries have really left a bitter taste in my mouth as to mcgrady and yao's production. amare is mostly a product of playing alongside the best playmaker in basketball. pierce was almost irrelevant in the league before the garnett and allen acquisitions...he's the "flavor of the month" right now because he just won a title.

melo is most definitely a top 12 player.

[starface]

melo can't play championship team ball? c'mon...even sometimes kobe veers from playing within a "team" concept and goes back into chucker mode. and I'd love to hear how lebron plays championship "team" ball when the whole cleveland offense is pretty much lebron dominating the ball for 40 minutes a night.


i completely agree about kobe and thats why i think his finals performances have been so abysmal, because on the biggest stage he decides that he wants to play for personal glory rather than team achievement, and he goes into "watch me be the star" mode at the detriment of his team. when you've got shaq in his prime anchoring your frontcourt you can get away with that, but we've seen how thats worked out once the MDE could not longer carry the squad.

as far as lebron, cleveland has no choice BUT to have him dominate the ball, because they dont have a legit PG and frankly he's their best point guard AND offensive option. but he's not a selfish player by nature. he averages 7 assists per game as a small forward and was even criticized for passing off game winning shots to open teammates (simply cuz the media wants a star taking those shots rather than the open man which is the smarter play).

lebron has good bball IQ and actually works on the weaknesses of his game in the offseason. carmelo plays x-box and orders takeout in the offseason. i'm not sayin he's a bad person for it, i'm just sayin you cant expect him to compete with grown ass men like tim duncan or kevin garnett or even lebron and other guys who are just as talented as carmelo, some even less so, but actually dedicate themselves to mastering winning basketball, and hit the gym even when its not mandated by their team. carmelo just doesnt care enough about it. its not right or wrong, its just the reality. and guys with that mindset rarely are cornerstone contributors to championship squads .

[brandonislegend]

i completely agree about kobe and thats why i think his finals performances have been so abysmal, because on the biggest stage he decides that he wants to play for personal glory rather than team achievement, and he goes into "watch me be the star" mode at the detriment of his team. when you've got shaq in his prime anchoring your frontcourt you can get away with that, but we've seen how thats worked out once the MDE could not longer carry the squad.

as far as lebron, cleveland has no choice BUT to have him dominate the ball, because they dont have a legit PG and frankly he's their best point guard AND offensive option. but he's not a selfish player by nature. he averages 7 assists per game as a small forward and was even criticized for passing off game winning shots to open teammates (simply cuz the media wants a star taking those shots rather than the open man which is the smarter play).

lebron has good bball IQ and actually works on the weaknesses of his game in the offseason. carmelo plays x-box and orders takeout in the offseason. i'm not sayin he's a bad person for it, i'm just sayin you cant expect him to compete with grown ass men like tim duncan or kevin garnett or even lebron and other guys who are just as talented as carmelo, some even less so, but actually dedicate themselves to mastering winning basketball, and hit the gym even when its not mandated by their team. carmelo just doesnt care enough about it. its not right or wrong, its just the reality. and guys with that mindset rarely are cornerstone contributors to championship squads .

you must have never seen melos workouts.

he is one of the hardest workers in the NBA. he may get in trouble off court but he does put the work in.

[chains5000]

Melo is not the same since 2 years ago..He has gotten fatter,slower, and less athlethic the last few years.He used to could finish around the basket and know he just gets blocked in every gm.Wat happen to the melo of 06 who could actually drive pass people,hit game winners, and get the best of LJ.All he does now for denver is stay around the midrange area and shoots jumpers.
watch this video and compare him to 08 melo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08weL3dRA8U faster and more explosive.
Pics or he isn't fatter.

[airchibundo507]

i completely agree about kobe and thats why i think his finals performances have been so abysmal, because on the biggest stage he decides that he wants to play for personal glory rather than team achievement, and he goes into "watch me be the star" mode at the detriment of his team. when you've got shaq in his prime anchoring your frontcourt you can get away with that, but we've seen how thats worked out once the MDE could not longer carry the squad.

as far as lebron, cleveland has no choice BUT to have him dominate the ball, because they dont have a legit PG and frankly he's their best point guard AND offensive option. but he's not a selfish player by nature. he averages 7 assists per game as a small forward and was even criticized for passing off game winning shots to open teammates (simply cuz the media wants a star taking those shots rather than the open man which is the smarter play).

lebron has good bball IQ and actually works on the weaknesses of his game in the offseason. carmelo plays x-box and orders takeout in the offseason. i'm not sayin he's a bad person for it, i'm just sayin you cant expect him to compete with grown ass men like tim duncan or kevin garnett or even lebron and other guys who are just as talented as carmelo, some even less so, but actually dedicate themselves to mastering winning basketball, and hit the gym even when its not mandated by their team. carmelo just doesnt care enough about it. its not right or wrong, its just the reality. and guys with that mindset rarely are cornerstone contributors to championship squads .

alright...well if we can make excuses for lebron's ball-domination...how about let's look at the ideal situation melo has in denver.

1.) denver has no point guard - anthony carter? the guy is a 3rd string benchwarmer and he was given starter minutes for the entire season

2.) there is no offensive system in denver - coach karl has completely shunned any thought of implementing any sort of offensive set to our halfcourt offense. our team is entirely dependent on transition--when the game is slowed down and we have to play halfcourt basketball...you'll see that denver settles on isolation, street-ball basketball.

3.) melo has the worst supporting cast of shooters in the NBA - and not even just shooters...finishers in general. look at the denver starting line-up...and tell me if anthony carter, kenyon martin, or marcus camby can effectively spread the floor in order for any offense to run? none of them have ball IQ to boot.


so before we crucify melo for his inability to play team basketball or make his teammates better...just realize that denver management has yet to put the right pieces around for him to blossom in this area--from head coaching all the way down to the roster.

before AI got to denver, JR smith was getting starter minutes (shooting +40% from behind the arc) and an actual point guard in andre miller ran the show...melo was finally beginning to understand how to play within a team concept. he was averaging 31 ppg, +4 apg, 51% FG, etc. he was learning how to make teammates better...smith was thriving off of the attention melo drew from opposing defenses, to the effect of 20 ppg.

but denver management screwed that all up with the AI trade. you really expect melo to learn "team ball" whenever our team's point guard (or undersized shooting guard) is the most selfish player in basketball? when the guy's selfishness has spread to the entire roster?

[ronnymac]

lebron, kobe, paul, duncan, garnett, wade, nash, dirk, dwight, williams...

probably the only players I'd put above melo.

injuries have really left a bitter taste in my mouth as to mcgrady and yao's production. amare is mostly a product of playing alongside the best playmaker in basketball. pierce was almost irrelevant in the league before the garnett and allen acquisitions...he's the "flavor of the month" right now because he just won a title.

melo is most definitely a top 12 player.
McGrady is a better allround player despite all the injuries.. unlik melo, tracy can change a game in alot of different ways. if melo's shot is off, he's pretty much renderd useless. mcgrady cn still kill you with he's playmaking ability.

There is noway melo is a top ten.

[airchibundo507]

McGrady is a better allround player despite all the injuries.. unlik melo, tracy can change a game in alot of different ways. if melo's shot is off, he's pretty much renderd useless. mcgrady cn still kill you with he's playmaking ability.

There is noway melo is a top ten.

mcgrady has a lot of the abilities of a point guard...I'll give him that. he has advantages in ballhandling, playmaking, etc.

but melo has an advantage an rebounding...and a major advantage in scoring.

defensively...neither are all that great. but when you also factor in t-mac's injury proneness...melo is the better player.

and as I've previously stated...melo is borderline top 10. I really don't understand why you can't grasp that notion.

[brandonislegend]

i dont know but i remember watching alot of nuggets games last year (i had melo on my fantasy team) and rememberiing him BEASTING the offensive glass....i remember him fighting for offensive rebounds through like 3 guys, he is so strong.

[ronnymac]

mcgrady has a lot of the abilities of a point guard...I'll give him that. he has advantages in ballhandling, playmaking, etc.

but melo has an advantage an rebounding...and a major advantage in scoring.

defensively...neither are all that great. but when you also factor in t-mac's injury proneness...melo is the better player.

and as I've previously stated...melo is borderline top 10. I really don't understand why you can't grasp that notion.

Offensively carmelo fine. but defensively while tracy may not be a ron artest lockdown defender, he's not that bad either. certianly better then carmelo.

Scoring Carmelo
Defense tracy
Playmaking tracy
Passing tracy
Rebounding carmelo
Post game carmelo
Playoffs tracy is far more superior in the post season. sure he may not have got past the st round. but he has avge some crazy numbers in the playoffs. melo conversely dissapears in the playoffs.

I do agree he's on the bubbel of being a top ten player, but he's lack of allround game still seperates him from the other top ten players. talents there. noones denying that. he just needs a right coach to harness those talents in a right direction. i'm flabber gasted as to why the nuggets are still keeping karl around. why perserve with a failed formula?.

[airchibundo507]

he just needs a right coach to harness those talents in a right direction. i'm flabber gasted as to why the nuggets are still keeping karl around. why perserve with a failed formula?.

your guess is as good as mine, buddy. the nuggets are one of the worst managements in the league. they have no gameplan...no clue at all what they're doing in the front office.

wrong coach for melo...wrong players around him (outside of jr, klieza, and nene).

our organization is allergic to drafting young talent and developing them into our system. we've drafted more than capable point guards in jarrett jack and jameer nelson to replace andre miller...only to ship these guys out of denver for garbage. even right now when we are DESPERATE for a point guard...our management trades our first round pick (with which we could've drafted a guy like mario chalmers) for a future first round pick.

and worst of all a lethargic coach with an ego bigger than any of his players. could you believe our management was about to ship melo out of denver BEFORE karl???

[ronnymac]

I think karl must have some incriminating pictures of the nuggets owners or something. lol.:roll: :confusedshrug: thats the only way to explain how this guy is still there coach.

Watching from the distance and seeing a team with so much talent and yet so little game plan is kind of mind boggoling. i grasped the idea behind the AI trade, but i knew it will only stop carmellows growth. AI needs to dominate the ball to be successfull. with carmellow there, that was allways gonna be a recipe for disaster. not to mention the nuggets were playing some solid ball prior to the trade.

[w00terz]

I think karl must have some incriminating pictures of the nuggets owners or something. lol.:roll: :confusedshrug: thats the only way to explain how this guy is still there coach.

No, the front office is just incredibly incompetent. They don't give a **** and have no idea what they're doing.

[Mateo]

i dont know but i remember watching alot of nuggets games last year (i had melo on my fantasy team) and rememberiing him BEASTING the offensive glass....i remember him fighting for offensive rebounds through like 3 guys, he is so strong.

He's also among the league leaders in getting his shot blocked, so that's another reason for his offensive rebounds.

[ronnymac]

No, the front office is just incredibly incompetent. They don't give a **** and have no idea what they're doing.

Quiet a shame. if you actually ran some plays for melo in a structured offensive sets, he'll be unstoppable. he's postup game is insanely good. very under utaliazed. having iverson dominate the ball is just the wrong fit with melo there. you guys need to completely run the offense through melo.


Also melo needs to develope he's game a bit more. he needs to learn how to punish not just be scoring, but passing and defense. he's game is far to one dimesional at this point. he's big, atheletic and fast. he could be a nasty defender. needs a bit of effort.

[pethuel03]

maybe because of the arrival of iverson. the ball is no longer in his hands all the time. he'll just stand there knowing that iverson could make a play for him

[Xiao Yao You]

he's really perfected his post game in the last few years. he's got a nice fade-away jumper, drop step, spin move, etc.

Thank you Adrian Dantley!

Guys like AD, Alex English, Bernard King are who Carmelo should be compared to not the greats. He's a high scoring small forward like they were not the superstar he's made out to be.

[juju151111]

Pics or he isn't fatter.
go look on google.ur lazy

[juju151111]

ill make a slight comparasin, probably not the best 1, but paul pierce, take a look at him. he started off slimmer, faster. now he's bulked up (he was 6'5" 6'6") now he is 6'7" and 235 pounds. HJe has obviously become a bit slower, but alot stronger and he can still play. i think carmelo is still improving and is a great player
Yeah and PP prime was in the early 00s.

[juju151111]

I think a lot of it has to do with the way defenses are playing him now. that highlight reel that the OP posted was from his rookie year...opposing teams didn't recognize him as the legit superstar scorer he is today. he was getting mostly single coverage and the driving lanes were wide open.

fastforward to today...defenses are packing the paint on him. he's had to adjust his offensive game. he was primarily a mid-range jump shooter his rookie year...and he'd play of his jumpshot to get to the basket. while I'll admit that he looks a little quicker and his ballhandling looks noticeably better...he's really perfected his post game in the last few years. he's got a nice fade-away jumper, drop step, spin move, etc.

plus...he really doesn't operate on the perimeter offensively anymore. he's really been forced to score from the post and about 15 ft out now in the denver offense.

but regardless of how his offense looks...he was a 43% FG scorer his rookie year...and now he's a 49% FG scorer. sure...AI has stunted his growth in a lot of areas...but he's still a top 3 scorer in the league and improving every year. if only denver could learn how to properly build a team around him. . .
I am talking about his 3rd season in 06.He shot like 48% that season and was noticable faster.

[juju151111]

He's also among the league leaders in getting his shot blocked, so that's another reason for his offensive rebounds.
exactly, this can be seen in the olympics too.He got blocked lke every game.In his first 3 seasons he was more elusive with attacking the rim.

[GOBB]

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Duncan
McGrady
Pierce
Wade
Yao
Dirk
Amare
Dwight
Are all above melo. he might be borderline top 15. noway in hell he's top 1`0

:roll:

If PP doesnt win a ring you dont list him. The fact you dont even have KG listed before Pierce says alot about your list. Get a clue. And to save yourself "Thats not my top 10, just listing 10 players better than Melo".

[bdreason]

I'll give you 20 million and I bet you gain 20 lbs in the first month.


Money makes people weak and soft (and fat).

[GOBB]

I'll give you 20 million and I bet you gain 20 lbs in the first month.


Money makes people weak and soft (and fat).

How is Melo fat? For a "fat" player he damn sure is an explosive scorer. If he's fat then the defenders who let him blow by him and score, who get abused should be ashamed of themselves.

[bdreason]

How is Melo fat? For a "fat" player he damn sure is an explosive scorer. If he's fat then the defenders who let him blow by him and score, who get abused should be ashamed of themselves.


oh I was just offering the idea of players getting soft after getting paid. It's similar to a Boxer or Mixed Martial Artist who works his a$$ off to get to the top, gets paid, then gets beat..... and everyone wonders why he was off his game.


I personally don't know if Melo has gained weight, but it wouldn't be surprising if his will and desire to improve has diminished since he became a multi-millionare. I also wouldn't be surprised if he has gained weight. He looks like a guy who may struggle to keep his weight down, and technically this is the off-season.

I don't think Melo adding a few pounds would effect his game like it would a wing player. Melo likes to play the post and spot up shoot a lot.

[DaCommish]

Nothing. The brother is still deadly has ever. I look at it this way; Melo is expanding is game.

Oh, he's expanding something alright...:)


Melo is not the same since 2 years ago..He has gotten fatter,slower, and less athlethic the last few years.He used to could finish around the basket and know he just gets blocked in every gm.Wat happen to the melo of 06 who could actually drive pass people,hit game winners, and get the best of LJ.All he does now for denver is stay around the midrange area and shoots jumpers.

Somewhere, Jeff Foxworthy just chuckled and sighed...

[juju151111]

How is Melo fat? For a "fat" player he damn sure is an explosive scorer. If he's fat then the defenders who let him blow by him and score, who get abused should be ashamed of themselves.
I don't really mean overweight type fat.I meant he playing at a different weight from his first 3 half seasons.

[juju151111]

Oh, he's expanding something alright...:)



Somewhere, Jeff Foxworthy just chuckled and sighed...
LOL :hammerhead:

[picc84]

Both Wade and Lebron have gotten exponentially better since their first seasons. And both have improved their defense along with their offense. Wade is a fantastic help defender, and Lebron is a great man and help defender. Melo is neither. If his jumpshot isnt on the guy is almost useless.

[Big Al All day]

I think people are considering him fat because he doesn't have the insane muscle build that LeBron and other elite small fowards have.

[starface]

I think people are considering him fat because he doesn't have the insane muscle build that LeBron and other elite small fowards have.

http://www.weneedtostop.com/1carmelo.jpg

come on now.

[starface]

http://blogs.kansascity.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/14/carmelo.jpg

even look at his arms. you can tell he's got muscles but the lack of definition indicates an obvious layer of blub oozing around on top of it

[hotsizzle]

Melo has his most effecient season this last season. I find it funnny when people accuse Melo of being an ineffecient chucker despite always shooting in 48-49% range (shot 49% this past season, a career best). He also had his career high in rebounds averaging 7.4 boards..but yeah hes not the same anymore.

[GOBB]

Melo is gonna increase his rebounding avg now that Camby is gone. He's improved his passing as well. Cant believe so many are sour on the guy.


http://blogs.kansascity.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/14/carmelo.jpg

even look at his arms. you can tell he's got muscles but the lack of definition indicates an obvious layer of blub oozing around on top of it

He's not fat. You posted pix of yourself flexing and there was no definition. So I mean, lets stop the shenanigans?

And if Melo was starting at SF for the Clippers today. They would be a much better team than they are considered now. Even you and your Melo dislike cant disagree.

[juju151111]

http://www.weneedtostop.com/1carmelo.jpg

come on now.
ok find a pic of him through 03-06.

[highwhey]

If someone found his current and starting body fat % (from when he entered the league) we could get this whole thing behind us.

[GOBB]

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Lebron-James-and-Carmelo-Anthony---04-All-Star-Game---Posed-Photofile-Photograph-C10121539.jpeg

http://www.zerohalliburton.com/images/vma/carmelo_anthony.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39058000/jpg/_39058163_bballanthony203.jpg

[JPR]

because he just isn't hungry anymore since he got paid.

[JPR]

Yoiu guys are too hard on Melo. Dude is a top 10 player imo. Sure there are parts about his game that need to improve. But tell me Lebron doesnt need improvement or D.Wade (whom I'm a big fan of). Whose defense is better. D.Wade or Melo? To me both stink, Wade has the potential to be a better defender but so does Melo. And while Bron improved his jumper I'm not a fan of his midrange game/shot. Melo/Wade are better to me in that area. I often use Wade/Bron when talkin Melo since they are from the same class. But Melo gets a raw deal. Dude is one of the games most explosive scorers. Remove AI from Denver and he easily avg 30ppg+. This big dog crap I dont like because Big Dog couldnt score like Carmelo can. And Carmelo is still young believe it or not.

24yrs old.

it's funny, i didn't see the word character in your post. no wonder you think he got a raw deal. compare his personality to the warrior chicago-bred wade or lebronze...forget about it! don't forget how melo looked like a b!tch on Punk'd too. he's like an overgrown 10 year old. i can't stand players like him (his mentality/disposition).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fjOIc46UXw

[GOBB]

it's funny, i didn't see the word character in your post. no wonder you think he got a raw deal. compare his personality to the warrior chicago-bred wade or lebronze...forget about it! don't forget how melo looked like a b!tch on Punk'd too. he's like an overgrown 10 year old. i can't stand players like him (his mentality/disposition).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fjOIc46UXw

1. He doesnt look hungry anymore yet he had one of his best seasons not to long ago
2. Character? Not many in here are speaking on it. They are attacking his game and body weight

:confusedshrug:

Carmelo = better than any Chicago Bull since MJ retired. Says alot.

[fos]

This Melo bashing has to stop. He had one of his best seasons improving significantly in rebounding and assists. He takes it to the hole a lot and has improved his outside shooting. The guy is a beast, that spin move to dunk of his is ****ing sweet. He's like 23 or 24, too and has become the most underrated player in the league. Outside of Lebron there is nobody 26 or under I'd rather have. He's a stud. He's always been chubby looking.

[starface]

Carmelo = better than any Chicago Bull since MJ retired. Says alot.


http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/brand0411.jpg

Hi. I'm Elton Brand. I used to play for the Bulls. I piss on Carmelo Anthony.

[KRAYZIE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/chandlercore/bio.gif

Hi. I'm Starface. Biggest Carmelo troll on this board. I hate him because he stole my lunch.

[GOBB]

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/brand0411.jpg

Hi. I'm Elton Brand. I used to play for the Bulls. I piss on Carmelo Anthony.

How many wins did Chicago have when Brand was there?
How many losing seasons has Carmelo experienced in the NBA?

You lose.

[Mateo]

This Melo bashing has to stop. He had one of his best seasons improving significantly in rebounding and assists. He takes it to the hole a lot and has improved his outside shooting. The guy is a beast, that spin move to dunk of his is ****ing sweet. He's like 23 or 24, too and has become the most underrated player in the league. Outside of Lebron there is nobody 26 or under I'd rather have. He's a stud. He's always been chubby looking.

The reason a lot of people (myself included) don't like Carmelo is because he doesn't care about anything other than his own point total. Sure, he might occasionally have a big rebound game (usually due to offensive rebounds off his own misses/blocks, since he's one of the most blocked players in the league) and he even sometimes decides to D up his man (even though he usually gives up as soon as they break his position, and he certainly doesn't play any team defense and leaks out for fast break opportunities any chance he gets). But at the end of the day he cares about his own point total and that's the end of it. Just listen to his in-game interviews; no matter what the question is he spins it to be about how he was individually performing on offense.

[ronnymac]

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Duncan
KG
McGrady
Pierce
Wade
Yao
Dirk
Amare
Dwight
Are all above melo. he might be borderline top 15. noway in hell he's top 1`0

I knew i forgot someone. KG is obviously

[lilojmayo]

Both Wade and Lebron have gotten exponentially better since their first seasons. And both have improved their defense along with their offense. Wade is a fantastic help defender, and Lebron is a great man and help defender. Melo is neither. If his jumpshot isnt on the guy is almost useless.


negro are you shytting me ill give you lbj but wade besides his one year with shaq were wade dominated the finals hasnt done shyt other than that lets compare Melo LBJ BOSH and Wade the top 4 in the draft of 2003

Chris Bosh: 18.9ppg 9rebs 2.6 assist 6851pts 3246rebs 758assist
Dwyane Wade: 23.9ppg 6.5assist 4.8rebs 7536pts 1527rebs 2036assist
Carmelo Anthony:24.4 ppg 6rebs 3assist 9264pts 2268 rebs 1145assist


so far stats wise melo is the second best player in the draft is always healthy

if melo didnt have the cancer in AI around him he could get out the first round and do some shyt to make ppl like you shut the helll up

[starface]

How many wins did Chicago have when Brand was there?
How many losing seasons has Carmelo experienced in the NBA?

You lose.


So you believe Carmelo Anthony is a better basketball player than Elton Brand? Please answer yes or no.

[fos]

The reason a lot of people (myself included) don't like Carmelo is because he doesn't care about anything other than his own point total. Sure, he might occasionally have a big rebound game (usually due to offensive rebounds off his own misses/blocks, since he's one of the most blocked players in the league) and he even sometimes decides to D up his man (even though he usually gives up as soon as they break his position, and he certainly doesn't play any team defense and leaks out for fast break opportunities any chance he gets). But at the end of the day he cares about his own point total and that's the end of it. Just listen to his in-game interviews; no matter what the question is he spins it to be about how he was individually performing on offense.

Ummm he's a scorer? It's one thing if he's just chucking shots but he's extremely efficient in what he does. Maybe I'm crazy but if I can get a 23/24 SF who can give me 26 7 and 4 + a game I'm satisfied. I agree he's got a ****ty attitude and sometimes you can question his desire/dedication but you can say that about half the stars in the league.

I'd love Dallas to get him or Josh Smith. Howard, Terry, Picks, Cash, anything but Dirk.

I think Dirk and Melo's games would compliment each others extremely well.

[Godfather]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/chandlercore/bio.gif

Hi. I'm Starface. Biggest Carmelo troll on this board. I hate him because he stole my lunch.

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/635/pooh20owned2qm.jpg

[Y2Gezee]

The reason a lot of people (myself included) don't like Carmelo is because he doesn't care about anything other than his own point total. Sure, he might occasionally have a big rebound game (usually due to offensive rebounds off his own misses/blocks, since he's one of the most blocked players in the league) and he even sometimes decides to D up his man (even though he usually gives up as soon as they break his position, and he certainly doesn't play any team defense and leaks out for fast break opportunities any chance he gets). But at the end of the day he cares about his own point total and that's the end of it. Just listen to his in-game interviews; no matter what the question is he spins it to be about how he was individually performing on offense.

Dumb and Lies.

You dumb liar.

[hoopaddict08]

I think what happened to Carmelo was that when Detroit selected Darko Milicic before him, he became very depressed and turned to food and watching re-runs of Fresh Prince as a sense of joy to overcome that sadness. This of course made him very lazy and lethargic. The same can be said for Joe Dumars, only his joy came from eating Krispy Kremes, and watching Judge Judy.

[w00terz]

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/brand0411.jpg

Hi. I'm Elton Brand. I used to play for the Bulls. I piss on Carmelo Anthony.

:roll: @ Elton Brand being better than Melo.

[ballinforkeeps]

wat happened to melo? uhh, he got better u ****in dumb ****in **** head. he doesnt need to score 30 when he has ai on his team, thats why his ppg went down. his fg% was at 49 tho, and he does have a midrange game, something both lebron and wade dont have, but he cant play defense worth a ****in ******* **** licker.

melo got game like a mug

[Big Al All day]

wat happened to melo? uhh, he got better u ****in dumb ****in **** head. he doesnt need to score 30 when he has ai on his team, thats why his ppg went down. his fg% was at 49 tho, and he does have a midrange game, something both lebron and wade dont have, but he cant play defense worth a ****in ******* **** licker.

melo got game like a mug


why is this guy so angry? wade's mid game isn't so bad , LeBron's is another story....

[juju151111]

wat happened to melo? uhh, he got better u ****in dumb ****in **** head. he doesnt need to score 30 when he has ai on his team, thats why his ppg went down. his fg% was at 49 tho, and he does have a midrange game, something both lebron and wade dont have, but he cant play defense worth a ****in ******* **** licker.

melo got game like a mug
lol calm down i dont hate melo.I already stated his humper has gotten better, but his driving and defense has gotten worse

[w00terz]

Ballinforkeeps = roid raging.

Anyways, Melo does need to start putting more effort on the defensive end. Watching 80+ Nuggets' games last season had me pulling my hair out at times.

[intrinsic]

http://www.zerohalliburton.com/images/vma/carmelo_anthony.jpg



Usually I prefer the strap style, but that's a pretty nice bracelet watch.

[GOBB]

So you believe Carmelo Anthony is a better basketball player than Elton Brand? Please answer yes or no.

There is no answer yes or no. You tried to be a smartass when i said Melo is the best player Chicago has EVER had since MJ by listing Brand when he played for the Bulls. Brand bests years? Brand improved game? Is during the period he was a Clipper...not a Bull. Carmelo any season you pick has been better than Brand during his stint in Chicago. And if we pull up success in Chicago with Brand? You keep your mouth shut.

So you can dance around and change your position all you want.

Melo > Brand in Chicago therefore you're Melo hate has you not disproving a thing I said in regards to "Carmelo = better than any Chicago Bull since MJ retired.".

The end. Now pick up your face, star.

[Mile High Crew]

To those people who say that Melo is fat, lazy, and doesn't work out at all and just strolls in during game time, you are WRONG.

If Melo is not in the Olympics or doing charity work or home with his family or friends he is in the weight room with Nuggets Trainer Steve Hess. Hess is one of the most ripped trainers in the NBA and he doesn't take kindly of those who gain weight.

Melo imo will probably be like a Paul Pierce type of player because of their size comparison, but I believe that Melo needs to be better in having a more of a vocal leadership. With that leadership I think he can carry on that voice of confidence into the game with defense and regain that quick first step.

Melo's time will come to win it all, you can't count on one young player all time!
Kobe had Shaq
Wade had Shaq
When they won the championship

Maybe Melo needs Shaq! :oldlol:

[LC loves ISH]

Since Carmelo's most recent campaign was the best of his career, this thread makes no sense whatsoever. I repeat, why is there a thread about "what happened" to a player coming off his best ever season?

[lilojmayo]

Melo was my favorite player until of course OJ Mayo entered the league.

He isnt the same player IMO. I hope it is just an off year, and he will be right back to it next year or prove himself in the playoffs.

I hate to say it but Durant>Melo right now.

[jrong]

Melo has hit his ceiling. He's a very good, but definitely not great player. It is what it is. He never posessed the athleticism to keep up with the superstar draft-mates. We should have been able to foresee it.

I questioned yesterday whether Denver would give him a max deal when he expires. The events of the beginning of this week seem to be providing an answer to that.

[porebo]

His having trouble with injuries, and adapting his game with billups.
But the biggest problem is that fat b!tch at the bench, named George Karl.:hammerhead:

[NuggetsFan]

Melo has hit his ceiling. He's a very good, but definitely not great player. It is what it is. He never posessed the athleticism to keep up with the superstar draft-mates. We should have been able to foresee it.

I questioned yesterday whether Denver would give him a max deal when he expires. The events of the beginning of this week seem to be providing an answer to that.

Hmm maybe so but this year his defense has gotten better(still bad) and he doesn't force up as many shots and he makes that extra pass alot of the times.

He has had a horrible year injury wise between his elbow\hand and just recently something to do with a bruised knee? or something like that. It's deff effected his shooting.



I agree Melo shouldn't get a max deal...but in this league right now and looking around at other players that have got max deals\getting max deals then Melo is deff in that list. If I had it my way I'd only give probably 4-6 guys a max deal tho but it doesn't work like that..

[Pokerface]

Melo has hit his ceiling. He's a very good, but definitely not great player. It is what it is. He never posessed the athleticism to keep up with the superstar draft-mates. We should have been able to foresee it.

I questioned yesterday whether Denver would give him a max deal when he expires. The events of the beginning of this week seem to be providing an answer to that.

FYI, Melo has a max deal at $14.5 million per year, that has four more years to go. His current PPG average is 21.6 which is higher than Pierce, Ming, Duncan, D. Howard, and P. Gasol. He is averaging 7.4 RPG which is even with P. Gasol, and higher than L. James who is averaging 7.3 RPG, and higher than Durant, Wade, and B. Wallace.

Thus, it depends upon how you choose to measure good vs. great. If it's based upon scoring and rebounding stats, then does that indicate that the players who have stats lower than his are also just good, but not great?

[xtn5021]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj157/GONEJONES/weed.jpg

i'm talking about the Lays in the backround of the picture, not the weed :rolleyes:I applaud you.:lol :applause: :banana:

[bdreason]

Melo is playing good.

His offensive numbers are down, but he's playing much better defense and team ball.

[jrong]

FYI, Melo has a max deal at $14.5 million per year, that has four more years to go. His current PPG average is 21.6 which is higher than Pierce, Ming, Duncan, D. Howard, and P. Gasol. He is averaging 7.4 RPG which is even with P. Gasol, and higher than L. James who is averaging 7.3 RPG, and higher than Durant, Wade, and B. Wallace.

Thus, it depends upon how you choose to measure good vs. great. If it's based upon scoring and rebounding stats, then does that indicate that the players who have stats lower than his are also just good, but not great?

With Melo, you get one of two things. He can either be a volume-shooting high scorer or a complimentary player. The Nuggets seem to work best with him as a complimentary player. That's great. But, you don't pay complimentary players max money.

I sympathize with Nuggets fans because they thought they were getting a player who could rival LeBron. But, they weren't. They also thought they were getting at very least the second best player in that draft. But, they weren't.

I mean, on one hand, how can you be disappointed when the third pick nets you a player who consistently averages over 20 ppg and hovers around All-Star level? But, on the other hand, the 2003 class was supposed to produce players who would lead their franchises to championships. It did. Denver just didn't select one of them.

[Heilige]

bump

[miggyme1]

carmelo will still wet lebron up anyday.anytime,anyplace.i never understood the comparasions between the two anyway.its like night and day.u have one player who is a physical specimen who is more a facilitator but can score at will if need be against a person who is a one on one dynamic scorer first and only.two different beast but two great players

[juju151111]

carmelo will still wet lebron up anyday.anytime,anyplace.i never understood the comparasions between the two anyway.its like night and day.u have one player who is a physical specimen who is more a facilitator but can score at will if need be against a person who is a one on one dynamic scorer first and only.two different beast but two great players
I made this thread in 08 and I think Carmelo just got lazy. He use to be sick, but he just got fatter,slower etc...

[miggyme1]

I made this thread in 08 and I think Carmelo just got lazy. He use to be sick, but he just got fatter,slower etc...


fatter?slower?where is evidence of this?i feel like he just matured his game.what it be any fun to still see carmelo crossing bums up driving the lane and takin long bombs?no....he would be another jr smith.carmelo is one of very few players in the league that are unguardable with players like drose,lebron,kobe,dwight...and dwade at times if he had a more consistent jumper.but yea carmelo is still an elite player.if anybody has fallen off i would say amare would be the victim he just doesnt look the same maybe it was the shortened season but he just looked like he never got his legs under him this season.looked like a shell of himself