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InspiredLebowski
08-14-2008, 03:55 AM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24179242-2,00.html


TWO US professional Bigfoot hunters claim to have found a body of the legendary creature and will present evidence of the astounding discovery to the world's press and scientists tomorrow. [tomorrow being Friday]

Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, who run Bigfoot expeditions, say they found a dead Bigfoot in the woods of north Georgia, in the southeast of the US, about two weeks ago and have put the carcass in a freezer.


http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6197234,00.jpg

Man, sure looks real to me!

Fallguy20
08-14-2008, 03:58 AM
My bro is gonna go nuts... he loves bigfoot and wont shut up about it even though the guy from the famous bigfoot film said on his deathbed that it was all a hoax...
Who am I kidding, I hope this shiz is real too...
It looks pretty good, but people have tried stuff like this before. Only thing that gives it great initial credibility is that they have an actual carcass and are submitting it to scientific study

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 04:05 AM
This is crazy man. Wow.

loot
08-14-2008, 04:23 AM
Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer are laughing their ass of right now.

20 Dimes A Game
08-14-2008, 04:34 AM
Fake.

Dash
08-14-2008, 04:57 AM
It's such a shame that UFO nuts, bigfoot "researchers" and ghost hunters have such crappy A/V equipment.

Does every shot you take have to be insanely out of focus and at the worst possible angle?

These stories always remind me of...

Jim Halpert: You are not going to believe this.
Dwight Schrute: What? I believe it.

Thorpesaurous
08-14-2008, 01:33 PM
The Buildeberg Group denies them access to anything but the most primitive photo supplies.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 01:35 PM
I call BS until there is some conclusive evidence. Pretty bad picture too, as usual.

v-unit
08-14-2008, 01:35 PM
I was just going to post this. I saw it on Fox News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76h6ltDh2c)and the person said they were going to send scientists there immediatly and if it was big foot, they were going to gladly invite news reporters, so there is a chance it could be real...

Sicknote
08-14-2008, 01:37 PM
LOL, if you live in Georgia, beware. Bigfeet (Bigfoots?) live there.

WorldWide
08-14-2008, 01:39 PM
I call BS until there is some conclusive evidence. Pretty bad picture too, as usual.

I agree.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 01:46 PM
LOL, if you live in Georgia, beware. Bigfeet (Bigfoots?) live there.
There's been bigfoot sightings in almost every state.

Call me a nerd, but back in middle school, I was a huge Bigfoot fanatic. Read almost ecery book on the subject at my public library, checked out every sight you can imagine, did book reports on the matter, and hell, I even wanted to be a Cryptozoologist at one point.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 01:50 PM
There's been bigfoot sightings in almost every state.

Call me a nerd, but back in middle school, I was a huge Bigfoot fanatic. Read almost ecery book on the subject at my public library, checked out every sight you can imagine, did book reports on the matter, and hell, I even wanted to be a Cryptozoologist at one point.
nerd. as we speak, Im sitting in a lab with casts of "bigfoot" footprints and even some possible stool samples. none of it is real or can be verified. We'll see with that carcass. Looks like a western lowland gorilla to me. maybe some zoo or crazy animal collector lost his gorilla recently.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 01:59 PM
nerd. as we speak, Im sitting in a lab with casts of "bigfoot" footprints and even some possible stool samples. none of it is real or can be verified. We'll see with that carcass. Looks like a western lowland gorilla to me. maybe some zoo or crazy animal collector lost his gorilla recently.
No.

I believe, if that body is REAL, then it is most likely that of a Bigfoot, as ignorant as that may sound, but these guys' profession is to search for Bigfoot, and if this is legit, I'm sure they're not going to confuse the carcass with that of a Gorilla - especially in Georgia, not many "Western Lowland Gorillas" there.

Big Deal
08-14-2008, 02:00 PM
Fake.

:applause:

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:01 PM
:applause:
How about a real post - indicating that you DO have some intelligence?

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:06 PM
My question is how do these "expeditions" get funded? How do these guys make a real living? Isnt it still essentially a myth until their is concrete evidence?

MK2V1GP
08-14-2008, 02:08 PM
i hope its real. i always get crap when i say i believe bigfoot is real. i'm not a HUGE bigfoot guy or w/e, but i've always believed they are real.

MK2V1GP
08-14-2008, 02:09 PM
My question is how do these "expeditions" get funded? How do these guys make a real living? Isnt it still essentially a myth until their is concrete evidence?

i would imagine some work for colleges/universities. but thats just a guess.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:10 PM
My question is how do these "expeditions" get funded? How do these guys make a real living? Isnt it still essentially a myth until their is concrete evidence?
because of crackpots like catz and mvp here. they take guys like this on "hunting trips" to locate a bigfoot. similar to big game guides or whatever. lots of people want to believe in things and will give money towards "research" investigating it.

tontoz
08-14-2008, 02:11 PM
:oldlol: @ people thinking this could actually be legit.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:11 PM
My question is how do these "expeditions" get funded? How do these guys make a real living? Isnt it still essentially a myth until their is concrete evidence?
Of course it's still somewhat a "myth" until it's found.

Private organizations fund them, or personal donations. Basically... they know somebody.

There are also certain organizations, who do nothing but search for unknown creatures, go around, listen to first hand stories, etc.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:13 PM
:oldlol: @ people thinking this could actually be legit.
:oldlol: @ you if it turns out to be legit.

Keep your mind closed, that's gonna get you ahead in life. *insert 'rolleyes' emoticon here*

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:14 PM
i would imagine some work for colleges/universities. but thats just a guess.
very rarely. there were/are some physical anthropologists who are interested in this, but only as a side hobby. there was a guy up in Washington who in effect ruined his professional career by letting his bigfoot obsession interfere with his real research.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:14 PM
Of course it's still somewhat a "myth" until it's found.

Private organizations fund them, or personal donations. Basically... they know somebody.

There are also certain organizations, who do nothing but search for unknown creatures, go around, listen to first hand stories, etc.

Its jut really hard for me to believe this one. Apparantly Bigfoot has been around a long time and they have really nothing but bogus pictures on it. I havnt done the research, so maybe you can tell me, what evidence do they really have of Bigfoot? Do they have stool samples? Do they have hair/fur samples? Pics I really dont believe bc they can be so easily altered

gts
08-14-2008, 02:16 PM
My question is how do these "expeditions" get funded? How do these guys make a real living? Isnt it still essentially a myth until their is concrete evidence?

"expeditions" may be a little strong...lol
more than likely 90% of these expeditions are two guys and a pickup on a weekend trip to get out of the house to avoid the wives

v-unit
08-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Its jut really hard for me to believe this one. Apparantly Bigfoot has been around a long time and they have really nothing but bogus pictures on it. I havnt done the research, so maybe you can tell me, what evidence do they really have of Bigfoot? Do they have stool samples? Do they have hair/fur samples? Pics I really dont believe bc they can be so easily altered

Bro, they have an old picture that was debunked. They found out it was just a gorilla costume from a store, they checked in with the stores around the area and found it.

Honestly, do people think there can be a 7 foot ape just walking around, outsmarting everyone by hiding it's self perfectly for years? Not only this, but not aged at all since the initial rumours?

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Its jut really hard for me to believe this one. Apparantly Bigfoot has been around a long time and they have really nothing but bogus pictures on it. I havnt done the research, so maybe you can tell me, what evidence do they really have of Bigfoot? Do they have stool samples? Do they have hair/fur samples? Pics I really dont believe bc they can be so easily altered
no, the evidence mostly consists of footprints (most of which were obviously faked when they are measured by experts in locomotion -i.e the heel depression isnt deep enough etc). There have been some fecal samples sent to experts ( I only know of a couple) but they are all pretty much bear poop (omnivorous, large size). How do I know all this? My advisor spent some time helping colleagues chase bigfoot in the NW for fun and is the guy they send the stool samples to.

Heilige
08-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Very interesting story. Even if it's a fraud it's still cool...

I've watched a few shows on Big Foot, mostly on the history channel. It definitely peaks my interest. Would be cool if somehow, someway this is true. Would definitely put a spin on everything that people believe currently about evolution I would think.

Personally, I for one am a believer in cryptozoology, in one form or another. There are hundreds of millions of acres of planet earth which no human eye has seen, nor a human foot tread upon. Many of these would take hours to fly to from the nearest outposts of human civilization.

There are too many areas on this planet that humans haven't explored yet to dismiss things like Bigfoot.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Its jut really hard for me to believe this one. Apparantly Bigfoot has been around a long time and they have really nothing but bogus pictures on it. I havnt done the research, so maybe you can tell me, what evidence do they really have of Bigfoot? Do they have stool samples? Do they have hair/fur samples? Pics I really dont believe bc they can be so easily altered
Of course, they have every sample you could imagine.

But scientists have stated, time and again, they aren't going to accept that Bigfoot is real until there is an actuall BODY brought to them.

But here's something for you. People who told stories of a "human-like money", Gorillas, were called "crackpots" too. Nobody thought they were real, until they were discovered as late as 1902.

Quite a while considering they had been around "a long time".

Bigfoot are more human-like, than money, so I could see them being smart enough to evade humans for all these years. there's been stories of them disposing of their own dead - possibly burying them, that's why finding a dead body is so rare.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:20 PM
Bro, they have an old picture that was debunked. They found out it was just a gorilla costume from a store, they checked in with the stores around the area and found it.

Honestly, do people think there can be a 7 foot ape just walking around, outsmarting everyone by hiding it's self perfectly for years? Not only this, but not aged at all since the initial rumours?
its the offspring. there are hundreds of them across the us. possibly thousands. maybe if you got off the computer and went outside for a while (and no, the manicured wooded park in your suburb doesnt count) you would see one

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:21 PM
Bro, they have an old picture that was debunked. They found out it was just a gorilla costume from a store, they checked in with the stores around the area and found it.

Honestly, do people think there can be a 7 foot ape just walking around, outsmarting everyone by hiding it's self perfectly for years? Not only this, but not aged at all since the initial rumours?
And that means that every story, or first hand account is fake?

Just because one was proven to be fake, doesn't discount them all.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:21 PM
Bro, they have an old picture that was debunked. They found out it was just a gorilla costume from a store, they checked in with the stores around the area and found it.

Honestly, do people think there can be a 7 foot ape just walking around, outsmarting everyone by hiding it's self perfectly for years? Not only this, but not aged at all since the initial rumours?

Uh yea I know, I already said i dont believe the Pics bc they are easily altered in my post.

tontoz
08-14-2008, 02:22 PM
:oldlol: @ you if it turns out to be legit.

Keep your mind closed, that's gonna get you ahead in life. *insert 'rolleyes' emoticon here*


Do you really think creatures that big and slow could stay hidden all this time?

We have detailed fossil records of dinosaurs that have been dead millions of years yet somehow we have no fossil record on Bigfoot. Hmmmm

Next thing they will have a carcas of the tooth fairy.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:23 PM
Of course, they have every sample you could imagine.

But scientists have stated, time and again, they aren't going to accept that Bigfoot is real until there is an actuall BODY brought to them.

But here's something for you. People who told stories of a "human-like money", Gorillas, were called "crackpots" too. Nobody thought they were real, until they were discovered as late as 1902.

Quite a while considering they had been around "a long time".

Bigfoot are more human-like, than money, so I could see them being smart enough to evade humans for all these years. there's been stories of them disposing of their own dead - possibly burying them, that's why finding a dead body is so rare.
you need to learn some primatological basics

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:23 PM
Very interesting story. Even if it's a fraud it's still cool...

I've watched a few shows on Big Foot, mostly on the history channel. It definitely peaks my interest. Would be cool if somehow, someway this is true. Would definitely put a spin on everything that people believe currently about evolution I would think.

Personally, I for one am a believer in cryptozoology, in one form or another. There are hundreds of millions of acres of planet earth which no human eye has seen, nor a human foot tread upon. Many of these would take hours to fly to from the nearest outposts of human civilization.

There are too many areas on this planet that humans haven't explored yet to dismiss things like Bigfoot.
Nice post, Heilage, if only everyone was as open-minded as you.

But that's just the boarish human in most of us. "We're the almighty dominant species, we have found everything there is to find".

Ignorant people.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:24 PM
If they have been around so long, at least one body should have been found. Esp. if there are 100's or 1000's of them. I doubt they can evade and outsmart us for a 100 years

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:25 PM
you need to learn some primatological basics
Wasn't it 1902?

If I'm off please tell me, not trying to talk out of my ass here...

gts
08-14-2008, 02:26 PM
Next thing they will have a carcas of the tooth fairy.

http://raincoaster.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dead-fairy-autopsy.jpg

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:26 PM
If they have been around so long, at least one body should have been found. Esp. if there are 100's or 1000's of them. I doubt they can evade and outsmart us for a 100 years
I dunno, I don't expect this to cause everyone to change their minds about Bigfoot, but they could easily have adapted to the forest like no other creature could or has before. You never know, they could evade us.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:27 PM
There are hundreds of millions of acres of planet earth which no human eye has seen, nor a human foot tread upon. Many of these would take hours to fly to from the nearest outposts of human civilization.

There are too many areas on this planet that humans haven't explored yet to dismiss things like Bigfoot.
no there arent. every possible environment on earth was colonized by humans over the last 100,000 years. people (polynesians) found almost all of the most remote islands in the pacific from about 3000 to 1000 years ago. people have lived everywhere on this planet except the very highest of mountains and even those have been incorporated into trade routes, pasturelands and migration patterns. There is very little of this earth that no human has tread. now you could argue that modern, western explorers/scientists havent been everywhere, and some native civilization deep in the amazon a thousand years ago doesnt count since the information they have wasnt incorporated into our modern world view, but in reality, humans have seen the entire surface of the planet and we can find archaeological evidence of this.

v-unit
08-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Hardly see how you can call humans ignorant for not believing there is a big foot. Fact is, everytime it has been debunked, but you're telling us that they are smarter then humans because they are similar to himans? That doesn't make sense.

And because they are smarter then us they hide in the woods for YEARS, hide dead bodies of their own, as if they know they have to hide from humans.

Jeeze, why don't I see them flying in spaceships attacking our villages, raping our women, etc, if their smarter then us? :rollingeyes

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 02:28 PM
You can find out the truth here....

http://www.searchingforbigfoot.com/


:pimp:

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:28 PM
Wasn't it 1902?

If I'm off please tell me, not trying to talk out of my ass here...
no, they are not monkeys. apes (including us) and monkeys are very different. not too worried about dates of discovery and all.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:29 PM
http://raincoaster.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/dead-fairy-autopsy.jpg

So thats why my little cousin didnt get his money from the tooth fairy last week....I was wondering what the hell was going on

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:30 PM
We'll see how this turns out when they do the press conference on Friday, until then, I'm done arguing with idiots like v-unit, who can't even discuss something like this with actual facts, just a bunch of proposterous "this or that" bullsh-t.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:31 PM
I'd be more willing to believe there are deep seas monsters bc we have not yet even been to the lowest points of the ocean

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:31 PM
no, they are not monkeys. apes (including us) and monkeys are very different. not too worried about dates of discovery and all.
What?

I said that Gorillas weren't discovered in Africa until 1902.

I'm fairly sure that's accurate. I've no clue what you're getting at.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:32 PM
somehow we have no fossil record on Bigfoot. Hmmmm

check out gigantopithecus. relatively recent fossils of this have been recovered and it probably co-existed with anatomically modern humans (and definitely homo erectus) in asia.

also, fossilization is a rare event. it only occurs in very geological contexts of rapid sedimentation and then the resultant rock has to survive millions of years of potential erosion. a humbly small % of life has been preserved in fossil form.

v-unit
08-14-2008, 02:32 PM
We'll see how this turns out when they do the press conference on Friday, until then, I'm done arguing with idiots like v-unit, who can't even discuss something like this with actual facts, just a bunch of proposterous "this or that" bullsh-t.

Aww don't be angry. You said they are similar to us so that makes them smarter then us. That's just your words.

So I'm just asking questions based on your words.

Abstrax
08-14-2008, 02:32 PM
What?

I said that Gorillas weren't discovered in Africa until 1902.

I'm fairly sure that's accurate. I've no clue what you're getting at.


meow

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:33 PM
I'd be more willing to believe there are deep seas monsters bc we have not yet even been to the lowest points of the ocean
And that's fair to say, very much so.

My question is, why would two men, who obviously have an understanding of what a Bigfoot looks like, would fake something like this, and even offer to hand the carcass over to scientists?

I don't think they would.

Let's just wait and hear what the science world says...

gts
08-14-2008, 02:37 PM
meowbanned again huh?

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Aww don't be angry. You said they are similar to us so that makes them smarter then us. That's just your words.

So I'm just asking questions based on your words.
I said they were similar to us - yes

But where did I say that that makes them smarter than us?

All I said is that, an animal that has lived in the woods, for their ENTIRE life, would have some basic instinct allowing them to "outsmart" other animals, and even humans, from finding them. Evading humans isn't the hardest thing in the world.

Does that make them smarter than us? No.

Does that make them smarter than you? Probably.

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 02:37 PM
the key to this will be how many credible sources pick up the story as something "serious." somehow, i just cannot believe that this is not a hoax based on the credibility of how it is playing itself out.



:pimp:

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Honeslty, I hope its true. These myths kind of intrigue me, and even though i really dont believe them, a part of me is hoping it is true. It would be exciting if something like this were possible

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:38 PM
What?

I said that Gorillas weren't discovered in Africa until 1902.

I'm fairly sure that's accurate. I've no clue what you're getting at.
yes, mountain gorillas (not lowland gorillas of which there are two distinct subspecies) were "discovered" in 1902. this doesnt mean the people who lived in the region didnt know about them, just that western explorers didnt believe the stories until they saw some for themselves and put it in the written record.

my point was that you called them monkeys and they are not. they are a great ape (just like us, chimps, bonobos, orangutans). Great and lesser apes are not monkeys

tontoz
08-14-2008, 02:38 PM
And that's fair to say, very much so.

My question is, why would two men, who obviously have an understanding of what a Bigfoot looks like, would fake something like this, and even offer to hand the carcass over to scientists?

I don't think they would.

Let's just wait and hear what the science world says...


If they even acknowlege this at all their response will probably be...












:lol

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:39 PM
And that's fair to say, very much so.

My question is, why would two men, who obviously have an understanding of what a Bigfoot looks like, would fake something like this, and even offer to hand the carcass over to scientists?

I don't think they would.

Let's just wait and hear what the science world says...
piltdown man

v-unit
08-14-2008, 02:41 PM
I swear you edited your post, but doesn't matter.

LOL @ your comment. Just because it lives in the woods it's whole life, means we can't find it? Is that the only animal from the woods? Animals didn't live in cities before we came you know, we went into the woods, cleared them out and destroyed their woods. We know they are in the woods, we found everything in the woods, if there is anything left it's underwater.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:41 PM
yes, mountain gorillas (not lowland gorillas of which there are two distinct subspecies) were "discovered" in 1902. this doesnt mean the people who lived in the region didnt know about them, just that western explorers didnt believe the stories until they saw some for themselves and put it in the written record.

my point was that you called them monkeys and they are not. they are a great ape (just like us, chimps, bonobos, orangutans). Great and lesser apes are not monkeys
And that's the point I'm trying to make, thank you.

I may have said it wrong, but that was what I was getting at.

It's the exact same thing here. Us, the "western explorers", don't believe the stories that many locals have claimed to have experienced, or the many sightings that many normal americans have submitted.

It's the same thing.

gts
08-14-2008, 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by catzhernandez
And that's fair to say, very much so.

My question is, why would two men, who obviously have an understanding of what a Bigfoot looks like, would fake something like this, and even offer to hand the carcass over to scientists?

I don't think they would.

Let's just wait and hear what the science world says...seriously?


History repeats?

This is not the first time a Bigfoot body has been claimed to have been found. A man named Tom Biscardi, founder of something called the Great American Bigfoot Research Organization, once claimed he had captured a Bigfoot. On Aug. 19, 2005, Biscardi appeared on the radio show "Coast to Coast with George Noory." Biscardi claimed his group had captured a Bigfoot a week earlier, a male beast that weighed over 400 pounds and stood 8-feet tall. He said he would be presenting photos of it several days later. It turned out to be a hoax.

Interestingly, Biscardi is also involved in the new Bigfoot body discovery.

Speaking on behalf of the Georgia men this week, Biscardi said, "Extensive scientific studies will be done on the body by a team of scientists including a molecular biologist, an anthropologist, a paleontologist and other scientists over the next few months at an undisclosed location" under armed guard.

If it all sounds very cloak-and-dagger, it is. Unnamed experts? Undisclosed location? Sounds more like "The X-Files" than real science.

Marketing scheme?

In 2005, Biscardi promoted a pay-per-view cable TV show in which he offered viewers the chance to see a Bigfoot captured on live television for only $59.95. That never happened, but Biscardi did recently direct and produce a film called "Bigfoot Lives."

Surely the publicity from this press conference might boost his film's sales...

Bigfoot researcher Loren Coleman, while stopping short of authenticating the claims, wrote on the Web site Cryptomundo.com, "I feel, in all honesty, this, indeed, may be the real deal, and I say this carefully after reviewing information that has been shared privately with me."

So has a Bigfoot finally been found, after all these years? Or is this just the latest hoax to embarrass Bigfoot believers and bring further ridicule to a field sorely in need of science?

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:43 PM
yes, mountain gorillas (not lowland gorillas of which there are two distinct subspecies) were "discovered" in 1902. this doesnt mean the people who lived in the region didnt know about them, just that western explorers didnt believe the stories until they saw some for themselves and put it in the written record.

my point was that you called them monkeys and they are not. they are a great ape (just like us, chimps, bonobos, orangutans). Great and lesser apes are not monkeys
I didn't call them a monkey...

Ah, I said they were more "human-like than monkey".

You know what I meant, more human-like than primate.

Thorpesaurous
08-14-2008, 02:45 PM
My question is how do these "expeditions" get funded? How do these guys make a real living? Isnt it still essentially a myth until their is concrete evidence?

Website traffic is a coup for them. I purchased a TShirt from a Bigfoot Field Research organisation. It's a glow in the dark BFRO logo that looks like a foot. I got a handwritten letter from them thanking me for my purchase, and telling me it would go to funding field research.

I don't see why something like this couldn't exist in small clusters in remote areas. And fossilization is extremely difficult in damp forrested areas because the moisture and scavenger popultion leads to rapid decay. I'm not gonna say that picture is proof enough for me, but I'm interested in the outcome. You could probably get as good an idea of this things legitimateness by checking these guys' credit report as by checking the DNA. I'm a sucker for all this stuff though. I even read and watch all Dooms' video posts. These outlyer type beliefs fascinate me, weather I believe in them or not.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:47 PM
Website traffic is a coup for them. I purchased a TShirt from a Bigfoot Field Research organisation. It's a glow in the dark BFRO logo that looks like a foot. I got a handwritten letter from them thanking me for my purchase, and telling me it would go to funding field research.

I don't see why something like this couldn't exist in small clusters in remote areas. And fossilization is extremely difficult in damp forrested areas because the moisture and scavenger popultion leads to rapid decay. I'm not gonna say that picture is proof enough for me, but I'm interested in the outcome. You could probably get as good an idea of this things legitimateness by checking these guys' credit report as by checking the DNA. I'm a sucker for all this stuff though. I even read and watch all Dooms' video posts. These outlyer type beliefs fascinate me, weather I believe in them or not.
Good post, Thorp. I wish everyone felt the same way and looked at the world with an open mind.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:48 PM
We know they are in the woods, we found everything in the woods, if there is anything left it's underwater.
you do realize that we still find new species of mammals (not just plants, insects, birds, etc) all the time?

what about the "extinct" ivory billed woodpecker that was recently verified in central arkansas? They though it went extinct in the 1930s or so

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:49 PM
seriously?



http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html
Interesting find, wasn't aware of that hoax.

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 02:51 PM
you do realize that we still find new species of mammals (not just plants, insects, birds, etc) all the time?

that is true, but they are not of this nature.... so i dont think you can compare this to the isolated regions of Borneo.



:pimp:

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:51 PM
you do realize that we still find new species of mammals (not just plants, insects, birds, etc) all the time?

what about the "extinct" ivory billed woodpecker that was recently verified in central arkansas? They though it went extinct in the 1930s or so
Now he is.

But seriously, booze, I never realized how educated you were in this field.

Interesting stuff.

v-unit
08-14-2008, 02:51 PM
Honestly boozehound, answer this, are you like Thorp where you get fascinated by these type of things? Controversy and mysteries in life?

Or do you sincerly believe in this, while discrediting other mysteries, is this one so believable to you? Is it really possible that we have not found this thing and only have rumours about it, all this time? I want your opinion on it.

Bigfoot, this fairy tale some people believe in is huge compared to a woodpecker, not just in size, I'm talking about overal hype and everything taken into account.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 02:52 PM
that is true, but they are not of this nature.... so i dont think you can compare this to the isolated regions of Borneo.



:pimp:
You missed the edit...

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 02:52 PM
Interesting find, wasn't aware of that hoax.

just do a google search...



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SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 02:53 PM
You missed the edit...

A bit different to compare a small woodpecker to a 7 foot plus mammal.... I don't think the logic follows necessarily and I would bet its a hoax still.



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v-unit
08-14-2008, 02:56 PM
A bit different to compare a small woodpecker to a 7 foot plus mammal.... I don't think the logic follows necessarily and I would bet its a hoax still.



:pimp:

Thank you.

It's one thing to be open minded, it's another to reach for this to be true. Comparing a woodpecker to a beast mystical creature thing is senseless.

If I saw a woodpecker, one that was supposidly extinct, I wouldn't even recognize it, I would think it's just another woodpecker, if I saw this beast animal, I would obviously know something is not right and it's some rare animal.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 02:56 PM
Honestly boozehound, answer this, are you like Thorp where you get fascinated by these type of things? Controversy and mysteries in life?

Or do you sincerly believe in this, while discrediting other mysteries, is this one so believable to you? Is it really possible that we have not found this thing and only have rumours about it, all this time? I want your opinion on it.

Bigfoot, this fairy tale some people believe in is huge compared to a woodpecker.
no, I think its probably bunk and at best these guys are mistaken, at worst they are trying to get some pub and some money by snowing us. That being said, I am open to the idea of them submitting it to the scientific community for independent tests in order to evaluate the physical evidence. As a scientist, you have to approach things with an open mind. The whole point of the scientific methodology is to generate plausible explanations of observable phenomena and then try and disprove them (you never actually prove with science, only disprove). I have a healthy skepticism of this, but Im willing to wait and see who their experts are and what the tests say.

tontoz
08-14-2008, 02:59 PM
History repeats?

This is not the first time a Bigfoot body has been claimed to have been found. A man named Tom Biscardi, founder of something called the Great American Bigfoot Research Organization, once claimed he had captured a Bigfoot. On Aug. 19, 2005, Biscardi appeared on the radio show "Coast to Coast with George Noory." Biscardi claimed his group had captured a Bigfoot a week earlier, a male beast that weighed over 400 pounds and stood 8-feet tall. He said he would be presenting photos of it several days later. It turned out to be a hoax.

Interestingly, Biscardi is also involved in the new Bigfoot body discovery.




In 2005, Biscardi promoted a pay-per-view cable TV show in which he offered viewers the chance to see a Bigfoot captured on live television for only $59.95. That never happened, but Biscardi did recently direct and produce a film called "Bigfoot Lives."

Surely the publicity from this press conference might boost his film's sales...




:oldlol:

This reminds me of the stories you hear about someone seeing the Virgin Mary in something like their toast. There are people who actually believe it and will pay $$$ to buy that toast on EBAY.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:00 PM
A bit different to compare a small woodpecker to a 7 foot plus mammal.... I don't think the logic follows necessarily and I would bet its a hoax still.



:pimp:
its actually a very big woodpecker (3rd biggest in the world at ~20" in length) with bright and distinctive coloration. but yes, I suppose you have a point

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 03:01 PM
I know they discover many new insects and things in the jungles every year. Do they dicover larger mammals every year. bc its understandable to discover new insects bc they out number mammals by a huge number. Just wondering if new monkeys or other animals are found each year

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 03:01 PM
no, I think its probably bunk and at best these guys are mistaken, at worst they are trying to get some pub and some money by snowing us. That being said, I am open to the idea of them submitting it to the scientific community for independent tests in order to evaluate the physical evidence. As a scientist, you have to approach things with an open mind. The whole point of the scientific methodology is to generate plausible explanations of observable phenomena and then try and disprove them (you never actually prove with science, only disprove). I have a healthy skepticism of this, but Im willing to wait and see who their experts are and what the tests say.

That is the key... they are vague about how they are going to release this to the scientific community for scruitiny. Its devisive in a way, which leads me (and many) to see it as a hoax.

Just compare it to how NASA released info on the presence of water on Mars... a huge difference and much more credible.... no games being played.


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Suns#1
08-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Good post, Thorp. I wish everyone felt the same way and looked at the world with an open mind.


Why is so important to you that people need proof of the existance of an animal for them to beleive that the animal exists.

I live in an area of reported big foot sightings and I do not believe in their existance due to the fact that there is no proof, only second hand sightings and debunked samples.

There are far too many people hiking/hunting in the bush for there to be no soild proof. I will eat my words if this bear proves to be Big Foot.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:03 PM
I know they discover many new insects and things in the jungles every year. Do they dicover larger mammals every year. bc its understandable to discover new insects bc they out number mammals by a huge number. Just wondering if new monkeys or other animals are found each year
yeah, they just found a new monkey species in the last half a year. give me a sec

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 03:06 PM
yeah, they just found a new monkey species in the last half a year. give me a sec
http://www.geneticarchaeology.com/Research/New_Monkey_Species_Found_in_Uganda.asp

This what you're talking about?

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 03:09 PM
p.s. were there not photographs of a tribe in the Amazon that were allegedly discovered recently that turned out to be a hoax??? mammal like too, but not quite over 7 feet... haha


http://photos.mongabay.com/08/0530tribe2.jpg




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boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:10 PM
http://www.geneticarchaeology.com/Research/New_Monkey_Species_Found_in_Uganda.asp

This what you're talking about?
actually I think thats another one. I was wrong though, the discovery was about 3 years ago.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080728192930.htm

sciencedaily.com is a great site for info since all of its stories are taken from peer reviewed publications (i.e. science journals)

v-unit
08-14-2008, 03:12 PM
SoCalMike I just repped you.

You guys are just going to say wait, wait it out, but honestly people have been saying that for years now and it has gotten them no where.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:16 PM
p.s. were there not photographs of a tribe in the Amazon that were allegedly discovered recently that turned out to be a hoax??? mammal like too, but not quite over 7 feet... haha


http://photos.mongabay.com/08/0530tribe2.jpg




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that wasnt really a hoax. it was poor journalism (imagine that in todays world of media). the organization that took the photo of a traditional group deep in the amazon never said anything about undiscovered or uncontacted. they used words indicating that they werent incorporated into the global system but one media org presented it as an undiscovered tribe and then the rest of the sheep ran with it. the organization corrected the story as soon as it ran. Cant find a source right now, but im not bsing

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 03:16 PM
SoCalMike I just repped you.

You guys are just going to say wait, wait it out, but honestly people have been saying that for years now and it has gotten them no where.
But there wasn't a press conference on a possible dead body found, the very next day, everytime they've said this before.


And SoCal, that example you used, how does it even pertain to this?

boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:18 PM
SoCalMike I just repped you.

You guys are just going to say wait, wait it out, but honestly people have been saying that for years now and it has gotten them no where.
this is new potential evidence. what years? when new data comes to light (be it how light moves as a wave or a fake bigfoot), you dont just discount it out of hand, but evaluate the new evidence. sure, its probably bogus, but why do you care if they spend their money testing the things dna, anatomy, etc?

v-unit
08-14-2008, 03:20 PM
I do not care if they do or don't test the DNA, check to see if it's real or not, etc, because I already believe that it is 100% fake.

But I do have a problem with people trying to make it seem like anyone is doesn't believe it is ignorant (Like we have seen in this thread) or that there is a high chance that it is probable.

That's all.

SoCalMike
08-14-2008, 03:20 PM
But there wasn't a press conference on a possible dead body found, the very next day, everytime they've said this before.


And SoCal, that example you used, how does it even pertain to this?

I would suggest you do a little homework on how information is released in the scientific community... I see this as a hoax, and it has nothing to do with whether or not a press conference was held quickly... just read what they are doing and how they are doing it... it does not add up to something credible. Thats all I am saying.


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ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 03:29 PM
I do not care if they do or don't test the DNA, check to see if it's real or not, etc, because I already believe that it is 100% fake.

But I do have a problem with people trying to make it seem like anyone is doesn't believe it is ignorant (Like we have seen in this thread) or that there is a high chance that it is probable.

That's all.

So what if they test it, do DNA test and it all checks out to be a new species, you still are not going to believe it? If you have that mentality that it is fake even if they put forth the evidence then you yourself is being ignorant.

boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:30 PM
I do not care if they do or don't test the DNA, check to see if it's real or not, etc, because I already believe that it is 100% fake.

and that is the difference between faith and science. you are stuck in your belief structure and nothing anyone does can change that. great. I believe that africans are an inferior race created on the 5th day of creation with the other animals and therefore soulless. nothing like dogma to make the world go round.

v-unit
08-14-2008, 03:32 PM
So what if they test it, do DNA test and it all checks out to be a new species, you still are not going to believe it? If you have that mentality that it is fake even if they put forth the evidence then you yourself is being ignorant.

Why are you assuming?

Obviously I would believe it if they show with evidence it is real. I wouldn't continue ignoring it, that's just foolish.

It's not faith boozehound if there is no evidence. This isn't religion vs. science, there is no proof so far that is legit to prove anything. It's not faith , it's common sense, I'm on science's side if anything, how are you going to believe something when there is no proof for it?

Once they show proof, I will believe it.

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 03:40 PM
Why are you assuming?

Obviously I would believe it if they show with evidence it is real. I wouldn't continue ignoring it, that's just foolish.

It's not faith boozehound if there is no evidence. This isn't religion vs. science, there is no proof so far that is legit to prove anything. It's not faith , it's common sense, I'm on science's side if anything, how are you going to believe something when there is no proof for it?

Once they show proof, I will believe it.

No I wasnt assuming. Your post said you didnt care if they test it or not bc you already think its fake so it didnt matter. Maybe I misinterpreted your post

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 03:40 PM
Why are you assuming?

Obviously I would believe it if they show with evidence it is real. I wouldn't continue ignoring it, that's just foolish.

It's not faith boozehound if there is no evidence. This isn't religion vs. science, there is no proof so far that is legit to prove anything. It's not faith , it's common sense, I'm on science's side if anything, how are you going to believe something when there is no proof for it?

Once they show proof, I will believe it.
Then why are you b*tching about, how it's always been a "waiting" game, it's gotten them nowhere, and when someone puts forthe new evidence, you just want to automatically dismiss it?

They're trying to put forth new evidence, WAIT until tomorrow, and then fully dismiss it, if it proves to be a hoax, then we're right back where we started. Until then, be open-minded, and if you think that's what you are, then you certainly aren't portrying that right now...

boozehound
08-14-2008, 03:42 PM
Why are you assuming?

Obviously I would believe it if they show with evidence it is real. I wouldn't continue ignoring it, that's just foolish.

It's not faith boozehound if there is no evidence. This isn't religion vs. science, there is no proof so far that is legit to prove anything. It's not faith , it's common sense, I'm on science's side if anything, how are you going to believe something when there is no proof for it?

Once they show proof, I will believe it.
my point was simply that there is no point in crying from the hills that this is bull**** cause it will all come out sooner or later. But being closeminded to a possible explanation (a hypothesis) well, thats the same attitude they had towards plate tectonics when the intial research was presented. I think its probably a bunch of bunk, but Im willing to wait and see before I reach any hasty conclusions. You're cool in my book vunit. but you did say that no amount of evidence could sway you on this since you already believed it was totally bogus and thats what I was referencing with faith vs. science (faith is not necc. religious). If multiple independent labs confirm the DNA of this thing as significantly different from humans and other apes.......
























but of course they wont. cause its a publicity hoax.

v-unit
08-14-2008, 03:42 PM
I'm not automatically dissmissing new evidence, I'm just saying I can almost guarantee that it will be fake, people do this, you know. Make up a fake newstorie, bring in reporters for the hell of it, just to get some attention.

Just saying don't fall for the hype.

If they show me evidence, then ok, I will believe it, shame on v-unit then.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm not automatically dissmissing new evidence, I'm just saying I can almost guarantee that it will be fake, people do this, you know. Make up a fake newstorie, bring in reporters for the hell of it, just to get some attention.

That's a fair argument.

Zan Tabak
08-14-2008, 03:44 PM
I guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow ..wheather it's real or not..

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2008, 03:48 PM
They have already done their job if its a hoax. They got the type and interest level up. Thats all i can see coming out of a hoax

Heilige
08-14-2008, 03:48 PM
Then why are you b*tching about, how it's always been a "waiting" game, it's gotten them nowhere, and when someone puts forthe new evidence, you just want to automatically dismiss it?

They're trying to put forth new evidence, WAIT until tomorrow, and then fully dismiss it, if it proves to be a hoax, then we're right back where we started. Until then, be open-minded, and if you think that's what you are, then you certainly aren't portrying that right now...


Do you know what time the news conference will be tomorrow?

dnyk1337
08-14-2008, 03:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YktEWmLVTvM&feature=related

Edit: Chupacabra does exist also, yet we only have sightings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqebUluWFM4

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 03:51 PM
Do you know what time the news conference will be tomorrow?
Not sure, I was checking on that earlier. All I know is that it's located in California, so it will be Pacific time.

tontoz
08-14-2008, 03:54 PM
Then why are you b*tching about, how it's always been a "waiting" game, it's gotten them nowhere, and when someone puts forthe new evidence, you just want to automatically dismiss it?

They're trying to put forth new evidence, WAIT until tomorrow, and then fully dismiss it, if it proves to be a hoax, then we're right back where we started. Until then, be open-minded, and if you think that's what you are, then you certainly aren't portrying that right now...


Tomorrow?


Speaking on behalf of the Georgia men this week, Biscardi said, "Extensive scientific studies will be done on the body by a team of scientists including a molecular biologist, an anthropologist, a paleontologist and other scientists over the next few months at an undisclosed location" under armed guard.


http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html

Looks like this guy will be milking the publicity as long has he can. I suppose it is just a coincidence that he made a movie entitled "Bigfoot Lives".


:sleeping

rezznor
08-14-2008, 03:56 PM
heres video of how those bigfoot researchers came across the carcass


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpTXjxU3WLQ

rezznor
08-14-2008, 04:03 PM
i loved this episode

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1103133/scare_tactics_big_foot/

Big Deal
08-14-2008, 04:09 PM
How about a real post - indicating that you DO have some intelligence?

alright


I think that its prolly fake, the idea of bigfoot seems too far fetched, there is a slight chance, but i highly doubt it, just seems like a beautiful publicity stunt to me.

Kings_Alex
08-14-2008, 04:10 PM
why do they kill these mystery creatures for? what if they're the only ones left... it's good to knowing they exist, but better to know that they are still alive. stupid people... and it's interesting how in the past month or so people discovered the mantauk monster, a chupacabra, and now this. i think it's all bs though.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 04:23 PM
why do they kill these mystery creatures for? what if they're the only ones left... it's good to knowing they exist, but better to know that they are still alive. stupid people... and it's interesting how in the past month or so people discovered the mantauk monster, a chupacabra, and now this. i think it's all bs though.
They didn't kill it, they supposedly found it dead...

Abstrax
08-14-2008, 04:26 PM
They didn't kill it, they supposedly found it dead...


meow

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 04:30 PM
meow
Hi fatty. I know this is you because you keep going to the 360 threads.

I won't argue with you this time though, Chadwin.

kingpala
08-14-2008, 04:40 PM
alright


I think that its prolly fake, the idea of bigfoot seems too far fetched, there is a slight chance, but i highly doubt it, just seems like a beautiful publicity stunt to me.

Many things in this world seem far fetched. There was a time when humans thought the planets and the sun revolved around Earth. They also believed that the Earth was flat, like a rectangular pizza, at one point in time. Hell, people find gigantic squid far fetched, yet there is obvious evidence to support the fact that giant, 18 foot+ squid do exist in the deep.

T.O.RAPS
08-14-2008, 04:48 PM
The hunters claim several Bigfoots were spotted walking upright in the area the body was found but won't reveal the location "to protect the creatures".

Mr Whitton, Mr Dyer and Mr Biscardi say they will soon mount a secret expedition to capture a live Bigfoot.

Picture to me looks real, look at the hands...

tontoz
08-14-2008, 04:51 PM
The hunters claim several Bigfoots were spotted walking upright in the area the body was found but won't reveal the location "to protect the creatures".


OMFG these guys have devoted their lives to proving Bigfoot exists but they don't want to give out the location where they found them?




:roll:

Abstrax
08-14-2008, 04:59 PM
Hi fatty. I know this is you because you keep going to the 360 threads.

I won't argue with you this time though, Chadwin.


meow

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Tomorrow?



http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html

Looks like this guy will be milking the publicity as long has he can. I suppose it is just a coincidence that he made a movie entitled "Bigfoot Lives".


:sleeping
What are you talking about?


They say they have a body, photos of the body, and DNA evidence — some or all of which will be revealed this Friday, Aug. 15, at a press conference in Palo Alto, Calif.

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html


I'm not sure what you're getting at, milking it for months? We'll know tomorrow, or have a pretty good idea of whether it's real or not.

kingpala
08-14-2008, 05:03 PM
So not only will we see USA own Spain's racist team, we will also find out if Big Foot really exists. Great day tomorrow.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 05:07 PM
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html

This site really does make you weary of the whole thing, again, I'm not saying I necessarily believe this story, it's just about having an open mind to the supposed "evidence" in question, and not dismissing everything as hearsay.

tontoz
08-14-2008, 05:09 PM
What are you talking about?



http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080813-bigfoot-sighting.html


I'm not sure what you're getting at, milking it for months? We'll know tomorrow, or have a pretty good idea of whether it's real or not.

What i am getting at is the direct quote.


"Extensive scientific studies will be done on the body by a team of scientists including a molecular biologist, an anthropologist, a paleontologist and other scientists over the next few months at an undisclosed location"

You really think they are going to blow their hoax after one day? Not a chance. I'll go on record now as saying the corpse will be nowhere in sight tomorrow and all they will have is pictures that could just as easily be rolled up carpets.

catzhernandez
08-14-2008, 05:13 PM
What i am getting at is the direct quote.



You really think they are going to blow their hoax after one day? Not a chance. I'll go on record now as saying the corpse will be nowhere in sight tomorrow and all they will have is pictures that could just as easily be rolled up carpets.
That'd be f-cked up.

Heilige
08-14-2008, 05:14 PM
So not only will we see USA own Spain's racist team, we will also find out if Big Foot really exists. Great day tomorrow.


USA plays Spain on Saturday.

kingpala
08-14-2008, 05:16 PM
USA plays Spain on Saturday.

Fack. I misread the schedule. Apparently the women's team plays Spain tomorrow.

boozehound
08-15-2008, 12:02 AM
Hi fatty. I know this is you because you keep going to the 360 threads.

I won't argue with you this time though, Chadwin.
:rockon: :rockon:

I wondered who you were referencing earlier.
http://strsd.southwick.ma.us/Schools/PowderMill/images/music3.gif
the fat came back
it couldnt stay away
the fat came back
the very next day
http://strsd.southwick.ma.us/Schools/PowderMill/images/music3.gif

catzhernandez
08-15-2008, 12:06 AM
:rockon: :rockon:

I wondered who you were referencing earlier.
http://strsd.southwick.ma.us/Schools/PowderMill/images/music3.gif
the fat came back
it couldnt stay away
the fat came back
the very next day
http://strsd.southwick.ma.us/Schools/PowderMill/images/music3.gif
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p2/okiered/emoticon.gif

Fallguy20
08-15-2008, 12:12 AM
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p2/okiered/emoticon.gif

I watched that mother fu*king smiley for a whole min!!!!

:lol :lol :lol

catzhernandez
08-15-2008, 12:15 AM
ZOMG, I watched that mother fu*king smiley for a whole min!!!!

:lol :lol :lol
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll207/beh77/Smileys/CA/zomg.png

boozehound
08-15-2008, 12:31 AM
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p2/okiered/emoticon.gif
nice. mostly quoting so i can steal it later

Heilige
08-15-2008, 09:48 AM
Has the news conference aired yet?

catzhernandez
08-15-2008, 11:15 AM
12 PM today... Pacific time I would assume...

SoCalMike
08-15-2008, 12:06 PM
12 PM today... Pacific time I would assume...

And the truth will be revealed... please post it here.




:pimp:

catzhernandez
08-15-2008, 12:12 PM
I'm not gonna be here at 3, about to go swimming, then work.

Somebody else needs to post it.

SoCalMike
08-15-2008, 12:14 PM
Anyone know if the press conference will be shown live over the net? I will admit that I am curious even though I think its a hoax.




:pimp:

catzhernandez
08-15-2008, 12:19 PM
BIGFOOT BODY FOUND - EVIDENCE AND DNA DETAILS TO BE PRESENTED AT A PRESS CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 15th

FROM 12 N00N TO 1:00PM AT THE CABANA HOTEL-PALO ALTO IN PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA

A body that may very well be the body of the creature commonly known as “Bigfoot” has been found in the woods in northern Georgia.

DNA evidence and photo evidence of the creature will be presented in a press conference on Friday, August 15th from 12 Noon to 1:00pm at the Cabana Hotel-Palo Alto at 4290 El Camino Real in Palo Alto, California, 94306. The press conference will not be open to the public. It will only be open to credentialed members of the press.
Here are some of the vital statistics on the “Bigfoot” body:
*The creature is seven feet seven inches tall.
*It weighs over five hundred pounds.
*The creature looks like it is part human and part ape-like.
*It is male.
*It has reddish hair and blackish-grey eyes.
*It has two arms and two legs, and five fingers on each hand and
five toes on each foot.
*The feet are flat and similar to human feet.
*Its footprint is sixteen and three-quarters inches long and five and three-quarters inches wide at the heel.
*From the palm of the hand to the tip of the middle finger, its hands are
eleven and three-quarters inches long and six and one-quarter inches wide.
*The creatures walk upright. (Several of them were sighted on the same day that the body was found.)
*The teeth are more human-like than ape-like.
*DNA tests are currently being done and the current DNA and photo evidence will be presented at the press conference on Friday, August 15th.


http://www.inquisitr.com/2357/has-bigfoot-been-found/



This is all I now about the press conference...

v-unit
08-15-2008, 12:22 PM
I think it's just another type of ape. Some rare species that we thought was extinct. Obviously it's something new but I guess we have to wait it out.

Chalkmaze
08-15-2008, 12:24 PM
What the **** kind of scientists are these, that's my question... The scientists have to have absolute credibility before I'll even give this outragous claim one thought.

ihatetimthomas
08-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Its probably all part of a marketing scheme to promote a new circus or something. Smells very similar to that Simpsons episode where Lisa finds an "angel" skeleton and it just turns out to be a promotion for a new mall

kingpala
08-15-2008, 01:24 PM
So any word on this event? It is 1:25 right now, so that's plenty of time for news to hit the interwebs.

v-unit
08-15-2008, 01:26 PM
Well, isn't it only like 11:26 right now in Cali? Because it's from 12-1 Cali. time correct? We gotta wait still.

ihatetimthomas
08-15-2008, 01:29 PM
Well, isn't it only like 11:26 right now in Cali? Because it's from 12-1 Cali. time correct? We gotta wait still.

its 10:30

catzhernandez
08-15-2008, 01:53 PM
So any word on this event? It is 1:25 right now, so that's plenty of time for news to hit the interwebs.

FROM 12 N00N TO 1:00PM AT THE CABANA HOTEL-PALO ALTO IN PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA

:banghead::banghead:

kingpala
08-15-2008, 02:58 PM
:banghead::banghead:

I have problems reading when I'm mimicking the Spanish team. :banghead:

SoCalMike
08-15-2008, 02:59 PM
Bigfoot press conference in two minutes... but I dont know where to see it! :oldlol:



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Heilige
08-15-2008, 03:21 PM
Bigfoot press conference in two minutes... but I dont know where to see it! :oldlol:



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Are you watching it?

DeuceWallaces
08-15-2008, 03:47 PM
I'm watching it on CNN.com, these guys seem a bit sketchy.

SoCalMike
08-15-2008, 03:57 PM
I'm watching it on CNN.com, these guys seem a bit sketchy.

Thats what I figured... I want to know what they are selling!!!


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Zan Tabak
08-15-2008, 03:58 PM
The much-anticipated Bigfoot press conference in Palo Alto, Calif., Friday afternoon didn't reveal much about the seven-foot body two Georgia men claimed they found in the woods last month.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404805,00.html

DeuceWallaces
08-15-2008, 04:00 PM
I watched it all. These guys are clearly a joke, and unfortunately this is a hoax.

boozehound
08-15-2008, 04:02 PM
I watched it all. These guys are clearly a joke, and unfortunately this is a hoax.
I think you should change your thesis to the evidence for bigfoot occupation in the red river gorge

SoCalMike
08-15-2008, 04:02 PM
No surprise here:

Bigfoot Hunters Reveal Little at Press Conference (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404805,00.html)



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DeuceWallaces
08-15-2008, 04:04 PM
I think you should change your thesis to the evidence for bigfoot occupation in the red river gorge

Yeah, I just got back from a week in Smoky Mountain NP, I should have focused my efforts on Bigfoot hunts instead of intense Stoli and Bourbon consumption.

tontoz
08-15-2008, 04:05 PM
You really think they are going to blow their hoax after one day? Not a chance. I'll go on record now as saying the corpse will be nowhere in sight tomorrow and all they will have is pictures that could just as easily be rolled up carpets.

:oldlol: @ cathernandez. I'll light a candle for you dude.

picc84
08-15-2008, 04:08 PM
They should be put to death.

ihatetimthomas
08-15-2008, 04:26 PM
Catz dreams of big foot =

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/kayxy/l_fe9b5ad06512b9711366c1e3e618fac2.jpg

Smokee
08-15-2008, 05:35 PM
I think it could be real. More real at least than every UFO picture, video, etc. i've seen. More real than the Montauk monster.

Either these guys are really stupid and bit off more than they can chew by claiming to have the carcass and whereabouts of the cave when they don't, or they are certain they have something. Either way its a pretty bold claim of a new discovery given that they are backing it with real proof and possible study.

And something like this is bound to happen at some point. I hope its real since i'd love to see a huge new discovery like this in my lifetime :pimp:

Smokee
08-15-2008, 05:36 PM
And no way thats just a regular gorilla to whoever said that earlier. I've never seen a regular gorilla look like Chewbacca :eek:

Buffalobraves
08-15-2008, 05:37 PM
I hope it escapes at eats everyone

Chalkmaze
08-15-2008, 05:44 PM
It's fake as if it needs to be said

Smokee
08-15-2008, 05:46 PM
It's fake as if it needs to be said


prove it :rolleyes:

Chalkmaze
08-15-2008, 06:09 PM
prove it :rolleyes: Here's the real bigfoot!

http://www.ccgm.co.uk/4x4-bigfoot-5.jpg

You're a moron btw if you believe these guys.

Smokee
08-15-2008, 06:14 PM
Here's the real bigfoot!

http://www.ccgm.co.uk/4x4-bigfoot-5.jpg

You're a moron btw if you believe these guys.


i'm just open minded. its possible. do you think we know and have seen everything? On this planet, let alone in space?


i guarantee you theres life out there somewhere. whether this is real i don't know but i'm not totally discounting it because its possible. you on the other hand seem so sure of yourself its fake based on nothing :rolleyes:

ihatetimthomas
08-15-2008, 06:17 PM
Big Foot's real. They even made a documentary on his life story

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/mstrmac/harry-hendersons-772487.jpg

Chalkmaze
08-15-2008, 06:25 PM
i'm just open minded. its possible. do you think we know and have seen everything? On this planet, let alone in space?


i guarantee you theres life out there somewhere. whether this is real i don't know but i'm not totally discounting it because its possible. you on the other hand seem so sure of yourself its fake based on nothing :rolleyes:

Your mom getting her head stuck up her ass is possible... Anything is possible, after all... What's reasonably probable is a whole other story. If you read about these guys history, add up all the information the answer is right there in front of you. This is completely fabricated.

You'll see that I'm right, and your going to feel very foolish, save face while you stil can.

SoCalMike
08-15-2008, 08:02 PM
Article/video on the subject:

http://cbs2.com/local/Big.Foot.Matt.2.796643.html



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rezznor
08-16-2008, 02:44 AM
Search: Advanced
Reuters
"Bigfoot" fails DNA test

Fri Aug 15, 6:48 PM ET

PALO ALTO, California (Reuters) - Bigfoot remains as elusive as ever.
ADVERTISEMENT

Results from tests on genetic material from alleged remains of one of the mythical half-ape and half-human creatures, made public at a news conference on Friday held after the claimed discovery swept the Internet, failed to prove its existence.

Its spread was fueled by a photograph of a hairy heap, bearing a close resemblance to a shaggy full-body gorilla costume, stuffed into a container resembling a refrigerator.

One of the two samples of DNA said to prove the existence of the Bigfoot came from a human and the other was 96 percent from an opossum, according to Curt Nelson, a scientist at the University of Minnesota who performed the DNA analysis.

Bigfoot creatures are said to live in the forests of the U.S. Pacific Northwest. An opossum is a marsupial about the size of a house cat.

Results of the DNA tests were revealed in an e-mail from Nelson and distributed at the Palo Alto, California, news conference held by Tom Biscardi, host of a weekly online radio show about the Bigfoot.

Also present were Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, the two who say they discovered the Bigfoot corpse while hiking in the woods of northern Georgia. They also are co-owners of a company that offers Bigfoot merchandise.

Despite the dubious photo and the commercial interests of the alleged discoverers, the Bigfoot claim drew interest from Australia to Europe and even The New York Times.

Biscardi said the DNA samples may not have been taken correctly and may have been contaminated, and that he would proceed with an autopsy of the alleged Bigfoot remains, currently in a freezer at an undisclosed location.

(Reporting by Clare Baldwin in Palo Alto; writing by Jim Christie; editing by Mary Milliken and Peter Henderson)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/us_nm/bigfoot_dc

Dash
08-16-2008, 04:33 AM
As if the whole concept of a Bigfoot weren't ridiculous enough, just look at these guys.....of course it's a hoax.

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2008/08/15/bifbig.jpg

Zan Tabak
08-16-2008, 11:35 AM
I'm not saying I believe them 100% but, why would they still claim to have a corpse? ..They said they were scared to just reveal their find cause it can be taken from them. Seems to me they are just waiting for the right person to come along and give them $$$.

Call me foolish, but I still think there is something to this story.

DeuceWallaces
08-16-2008, 11:47 AM
I'm not saying I believe them 100% but, why would they still claim to have a corpse? ..They said they were scared to just reveal their find cause it can be taken from them. Seems to me they are just waiting for the right person to come along and give them $$$.

Call me foolish, but I still think there is something to this story.

You're foolish.

These guys are complete jokers. They had THREE different stories about claiming the corpse. In one some ex army guy shot it and they tracked it, in another they found it dead, in another they stumbled upon it wounded and waited till it died, and while loading it into their truck were flanked by more bigfeet. They failed a DNA test, the press conference was a complete joke. They had no proof except a blurry bull**** photograph, and didn't produce a body, because they're trying to milk this publicity for their business as long as they can.

Zan Tabak
08-16-2008, 11:50 AM
You're foolish.

These guys are complete jokers. They had THREE different stories about claiming the corpse. In one some ex army guy shot it and they tracked it, in another they found it dead, in another they stumbled upon it wounded and waited till it died, and while loading it into their truck were flanked by more bigfeet. They failed a DNA test, the press conference was a complete joke. They had no proof except a blurry bull**** photograph, and didn't produce a body, because they're trying to milk this publicity for their business as long as they can.
Yeah..your probably right. Maybe my want to believe is greater then what's really there.

DeuceWallaces
08-16-2008, 12:21 PM
Quite possible it exists, but I guarantee these jokers didn't find it.

tontoz
08-16-2008, 12:34 PM
So has cathernandez been MIA since the press conference? :oldlol:

v-unit
08-16-2008, 12:44 PM
Idiots.

And I was being called ignorant for not believing this. Jesus.

Aldridge Fan
08-16-2008, 04:06 PM
(Coughs) Bull! Sh!t!

catzhernandez
08-16-2008, 04:11 PM
Idiots.

And I was being called ignorant for not believing this. Jesus.
No, you were called ignorant because of the way you automatically want to dismiss any evidence somebody wants to throw at you.

Don't backtrack, nobody sat here and claimed that the evidence was genuine, but I just merely wanted to wait it out, and see what the "evidence" presented.

It looks as if it was a hoax, thus you were right. Don't sit here and talk sh*t though.

ihatetimthomas
08-16-2008, 04:16 PM
These guys own the business that sells Bigfoot merchandise and have a website. It sounds pretty obvious now that it was merely a marketing ploy to get more traffic for their website. It worked too. It got a ton of media hype and Im sure it caused people to buy stuff from them

High Potential
08-16-2008, 04:16 PM
to me I saw the pic and thought that it looked like a costume you buy at those fancy halloween stores stuffed into a tub. If bigfoot was real he'd have his own talk show on UPN by now.

Devientz
08-16-2008, 04:22 PM
The saddest part about this story, is that both those guys work in law enforcement.

Smokee
08-16-2008, 04:34 PM
If they are lying i don't get how you could just lie to the mass public like this without repercussions. To be straight faced and stand there in a news conference lying your ass off to everybody around you....i mean making money off of merchandise/web site is one thing, but is it worth being known villainized if they are lying?

They probably are. I don't get how they weren't scared at all when they said others were parallel'ing them. So one went and got help while one stayed given that?

I just hope dude is at least locked up, charged with something, or something bad happens to him if he's lying.

SoCalMike
08-16-2008, 05:08 PM
These guys are complete jokers. They had THREE different stories about claiming the corpse. In one some ex army guy shot it and they tracked it, in another they found it dead, in another they stumbled upon it wounded and waited till it died, and while loading it into their truck were flanked by more bigfeet. They failed a DNA test, the press conference was a complete joke. They had no proof except a blurry bull**** photograph, and didn't produce a body, because they're trying to milk this publicity for their business as long as they can.

+1

/end thread


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SoCalMike
08-19-2008, 04:03 PM
just in case there are still any of you left that felt this was true...

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19/bigfoot.hoax/index.html


The body turned out to be rubber, and the two men who claimed they found it, Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, have admitted it was a costume, said a posting Tuesday on the Web sites of Searching for Bigfoot Inc. and Squatchdetective.



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tontoz
08-19-2008, 04:45 PM
The body turned out to be rubber, and the two men who claimed they found it, Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, have admitted it was a costume, said a posting Tuesday on the Web sites of Searching for Bigfoot Inc. and Squatchdetective.

:roll:

ihatetimthomas
08-19-2008, 04:46 PM
Those guys must have made bank on t-shirt sales that week. Im sure they got major traffic on their website

Smokee
08-19-2008, 05:22 PM
Those guys must have made bank on t-shirt sales that week. Im sure they got major traffic on their website


I would love to know how much they made since most people were on the fence, and i can't see how/why anyone would go out and buy T-shirts before it was proven. That said i'm sure they got a lot of traffic.

I just wonder if its worth the hate, reputation as a shady liar for a buck especially if either of them has kids, and their jobs. If they are allowed to go back into law enforcement after this then its a travesty.

I still can't believe that guy had the nerve to stand there in a press conference and straight faced lie to the world. Unbelievable if he gets away with this not to mention the precedent it sets :hammerhead:

ihatetimthomas
08-19-2008, 05:26 PM
I would love to know how much they made since most people were on the fence, and i can't see how/why anyone would go out and buy T-shirts before it was proven. That said i'm sure they got a lot of traffic.

I just wonder if its worth the hate, reputation as a shady liar for a buck especially if either of them has kids, and their jobs. If they are allowed to go back into law enforcement after this then its a travesty.

I still can't believe that guy had the nerve to stand there in a press conference and straight faced lie to the world. Unbelievable if he gets away with this not to mention the precedent it sets :hammerhead:

I think there were dumb enough people who really bought into the hype and decided to purchase merchandise. Whether it was for fun or bc they really wanted to believe it was true cannot be determined. But I bet you they made some money out of it bc there are some people out there who just want to believe its true.

Welcome to the real world. People will do anything for a quick buck. They will lie, cheat or degrade themselves for money. Nothing surprising here

Smokee
08-19-2008, 06:30 PM
I think there were dumb enough people who really bought into the hype and decided to purchase merchandise. Whether it was for fun or bc they really wanted to believe it was true cannot be determined. But I bet you they made some money out of it bc there are some people out there who just want to believe its true.

Welcome to the real world. People will do anything for a quick buck. They will lie, cheat or degrade themselves for money. Nothing surprising here


I see people every day desperate for a buck. But this...this is extreme. Not even most of the bums and voluntary unemployed would pull something this. Just think of how you will be looked at for the rest of your life. Think about what your kid is going through. Damn imagine if either of these guys was your father. Being a Bigfoot tracker is laughable enough, but to outright lie straight faced to the world for a buck...i mean even the shadiest baseball card dealers wouldn't pull something like this. This is really as low as you can go.

To lie to a few people, ok, the tradeoff for the buck may be worth it. But to lie to the world in a press conference no less, damn, i hope the guy made over $100k at least. I guess a million i can understand. Personally i wouldn't even do this for that much.

kentatm
08-19-2008, 08:52 PM
hate to be mean but anyone who fell for that pic is a moron.

first thing that popped in my head was sit looked like a rubber suit and comes out today that exactly what it was.

-primetime-
08-19-2008, 09:01 PM
hate to be mean but anyone who read the thread title and thought there was a chance in hell it was true is a moron.

first thing that popped in my head was sit looked like a rubber suit and comes out today that exactly what it was.
fixed

this isn't some rare insect we are talking about....we are talking about an enormous mammal...

I am 100% sure we are aware in every species of mammal over 10 lbs. in THE UNITED STATES...

there may be like a .000001% chance something of that size stayed hidden in some remote area of South America or Africa or something but not here...

stuff like that just doesn't stay hidden from people...

ForceOfNature
08-19-2008, 09:02 PM
This thing is fake? Oh man, I wonder if they'll ever find Big Foot.

Chalkmaze
08-19-2008, 09:43 PM
This thing is fake? Oh man, I wonder if they'll ever find Big Foot.

They found Bigfoot you fool... Bigfoot is a hoax and always has been.

InspiredLebowski
10-20-2008, 02:10 PM
He's back!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081020/wl_sthasia_afp/nepaljapanwildlifeyetioffbeat

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20081020/capt.cps.nyl15.201008145721.photo00.photo.default-512x309.jpg?x=400&y=241&q=85&sig=3t53yXlTDvki7PIHFS3eNQ--

Bigfoot on left, human on right

gts
10-20-2008, 02:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oMwBvCdYSI

catzhernandez
10-20-2008, 02:18 PM
He's back!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081020/wl_sthasia_afp/nepaljapanwildlifeyetioffbeat

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20081020/capt.cps.nyl15.201008145721.photo00.photo.default-512x309.jpg?x=400&y=241&q=85&sig=3t53yXlTDvki7PIHFS3eNQ--

Bigfoot on left, human on right


I've seen a million of these articles...

It could be anything, finding a footprint in the snow means nothing. Footprints melt away, and melt "outwards", meaning it can make a normal footprint even twice as large as it began.

InspiredLebowski
10-20-2008, 02:21 PM
I've seen a million of these articles...

It could be anything, finding a footprint in the snow means nothing. Footprints melt away, and melt "outwards", meaning it can make a normal footprint even twice as large as it began.

You are not a believer! Clearly the original one they found was alive, paid off the "hoax" orchestrators (probably in berries) and he's now on the lamb

catzhernandez
10-20-2008, 02:22 PM
You are not a believer! Clearly the original one they found was alive, paid off the "hoax" orchestrators (probably in berries) and he's now on the lamb

lol?

loot
10-20-2008, 02:23 PM
it was hiding in vacuumboys bellybutton along with bin laden, ufo's, bison dele and iraq's weapons of mass destruction

InspiredLebowski
10-20-2008, 02:23 PM
lol?

This is no laughing matter. Bigfoots deserve the same right any other part-man creature. Wonder which presidential candidate they would support.

catzhernandez
10-20-2008, 02:29 PM
This is no laughing matter. Bigfoots deserve the same right any other part-man creature. Wonder which presidential candidate they would support.

http://www.jewsonfirst.org/images/obama8.jpg


http://lanceolson.com/lol/borat_not.jpg

Geezo
10-20-2008, 02:32 PM
Do you really think creatures that big and slow could stay hidden all this time?

We have detailed fossil records of dinosaurs that have been dead millions of years yet somehow we have no fossil record on Bigfoot. Hmmmm

Next thing they will have a carcas of the tooth fairy.


They don't have to hide skeletons of animals that mean no threat to the human race because they are extinct.

Bigfoot, Aliens and ****s of those kind would be unbearable for the mass population.

Not saying I'm a firm believer but there's always a fine line I don't cross regarding all these fishy topics.

B
10-20-2008, 02:48 PM
I have been invited on a Yeti expedition in the Pacific Northwest. We leave tonight and will gather up in two days at an undisclosed location.

jbot
10-20-2008, 03:02 PM
we will find a bigfoot, domesticate him, and put him on a nba court.

sandwiches
10-20-2008, 03:23 PM
we will find a bigfoot, domesticate him, and put him on a nba court.

already done

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/images/2007/10/09/squatch_dunking_2.jpg

InspiredLebowski
10-20-2008, 03:32 PM
already done

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/images/2007/10/09/squatch_dunking_2.jpg

Don't forget
http://www.hoops4thesoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/teenwolf.jpg

Now that's a 1 on 1 I'd like to see

tontoz
10-20-2008, 04:14 PM
They don't have to hide skeletons of animals that mean no threat to the human race because they are extinct.

Bigfoot, Aliens and ****s of those kind would be unbearable for the mass population.

Not saying I'm a firm believer but there's always a fine line I don't cross regarding all these fishy topics.

:roll:

There are people who have been looking for any sign of Bigfoot for years. You think they would hide a Bigfoot skeleton if they found it?

:hammerhead:

Ben Jordan
10-20-2008, 04:18 PM
so was that carcass real?

tontoz
10-20-2008, 04:23 PM
so was that carcass real?

No, it was just a rubber costume, dashing the hopes of the Bigfoot faithful.


It is all in this thread. It is pretty funny reading if you have the time.

RobboUK
10-20-2008, 04:59 PM
lol so dat whole fing was a lie?

3.2.1.
10-20-2008, 07:19 PM
lol so dat whole fing was a lie?
yes sssir lol