The shot blocking skills of Dwade and Lebron james

[Diesel J]

These dudes seem to get alot of blks from the Sg/Sf spot and watching Lebron James swating these shots away so far in the Olympics makes me remember that for a good part of last season, he was getting like 2 blks per game. Wade is like a young Jordan the way he sneaks up on dudes to get blks. Wade has already had 2 seasons where he avg atleast 1 blk.

Some vids

Wade

Dwyane Wade blocks Tony Parker 2 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3Z46t3xY8&fm=18

Dwyane Wade blocks Carmelo Anthony's shot and then they laugh it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_geK8mlsY&feature=related

dwyane wade block amare stoudemire and the does a buzzer beater from halfcourt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujgX3IlUFGo&feature=related

Dwyane Wade blocks Mike James

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zAs6sS8yk

Dwyane Wade blocks Nate Robinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbg9Oxzs3E&feature=related

Dwyane Wade blocks Ime Udoka (Spurs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleLo1eKEkM

Wade blks Kobe 2 times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzfe708iF5Y

Dwyane Wade blocks Jelani McCoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5cg7H0b3U8

^^ Wade did him dirty on that blk:oldlol:



..........

Lebron

LeBron James Traps Rajon Rondo's Layup Against the Glass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORP_YITsLsM

[TKM] - Lebron James Big block on Devin Harris (goal tend but sick)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_xWJyYRJSM

Lebron James blocks Kobe Bryant USA Game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mgiXKcXn1E&feature=related

LeBron James huge rejection vs Wizards Game 2 (check the speed of lebron)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB3qQVDCJB8&feature=related

LeBron James blocks Ronald Flip Murray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prVUY4CZkxE&feature=related

LeBron James rejects Paul Pierce (5.6.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNue32Cd48I

Lebron James rejects Rajan Rondo AGAIN!!! (5.10.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoyAvi-80xY&feature=related

Lebron James blocks Antonio Daniels (4.21.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUy7myvXPWk&feature=related

[Diesel J]

Lebron James block vs Angola

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hpPecm9VkI

LeBron James (and Chris Bosh) block party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8SAulwPQLA

[AItheAnswer3]

LeBron is a freak of nature..He can play any position on the court :bowdown:

[brantonli]

LeBron is a freak of nature..He can play any position on the court :bowdown:

He sure as hell can't play center and PFs with good strength would stop him going anywhere.

I think it's just that Wade and LeBron are so athletic, and of course, the other team usually isn't. . But it does make me wonder about those type of shot blockers who are insanely athletic and those shot blockers who just have incredible timing like Mutombo.

[Diesel J]

^^ Wade and James get those insane blks even against NBA athletes.

[loot]

better than average timing and antiicipation

[jrong]

Wade actually hasn't had a lot of shot blocks in the Olympics, which is one of the last things I am looking for to see if he is truly BACK. Because when he's fully healthy, he's the probably the best shot-blocking guard since Mike.

Histrorically, he's been a better shot blocker than LeBron even with a four inch height disadvantage. LeBron has been shot blocking like a monster in the Olympics, though.

However, both Wade and LeBron at times go to help for blocks when they shouldn't and leave their own men open for shots when the player passes instead of shoots and they are then out of position.

[Mamba]

^^ i agree with that but wade and lebron are so quick that they can get back and defend that player again, it has happened before.

lebron only recently has realised his athleticism and gone for block properly, he's excellent at pinning the ball, and has become a really good defender.

[DuMa]

James can play 5 positions in FIBA rules and style.

[Big Deal]

LeBron James (and Chris Bosh) block party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8SAulwPQLA

ooh man i loved that!

[SRZ66]

i get a little bit of a chub everytime lebron pins one of those euros weak layup attempts

[Godfather]

He sure as hell can't play center and PFs with good strength would stop him going anywhere.

I think it's just that Wade and LeBron are so athletic, and of course, the other team usually isn't. . But it does make me wonder about those type of shot blockers who are insanely athletic and those shot blockers who just have incredible timing like Mutombo.

LeBron James is one of the strongest players in the NBA. If anything is going to limit him from playing PF and C it is his height and his terrible post game.

[Kobe24]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

Kobe blocks Duncan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpN4oKuDy4)

Kobe blocks Kirilenko dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLfBx3BTdA)

Kobe blocks Deron's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw)

Kobe blocks Yao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXxHptH0pI)

Kobe blocks Diaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJSEsoum5o)

Kobe blocks Devin Harris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh4UtPcn8E)

Kobe blocks Dirk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcajjRlgA8)

[lefthook00]

A lot of these are help defense/blind side blocks...kind of like jumping passing lanes or sneaking up for steals...I would like to see them take a page out of Kobe's book and go up and challenge players that are trying to dunk, b/c they definitely have the athleticism.

[ShowtymeCA2NC]

These dudes seem to get alot of blks from the Sg/Sf spot and watching Lebron James swating these shots away so far in the Olympics makes me remember that for a good part of last season, he was getting like 2 blks per game. Wade is like a young Jordan the way he sneaks up on dudes to get blks. Wade has already had 2 seasons where he avg atleast 1 blk.

Some vids

Wade

Dwyane Wade blocks Tony Parker 2 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3Z46t3xY8&fm=18

Dwyane Wade blocks Carmelo Anthony's shot and then they laugh it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_geK8mlsY&feature=related

dwyane wade block amare stoudemire and the does a buzzer beater from halfcourt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujgX3IlUFGo&feature=related

Dwyane Wade blocks Mike James

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zAs6sS8yk

Dwyane Wade blocks Nate Robinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbg9Oxzs3E&feature=related

Dwyane Wade blocks Ime Udoka (Spurs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleLo1eKEkM

Wade blks Kobe 2 times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzfe708iF5Y

Dwyane Wade blocks Jelani McCoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5cg7H0b3U8

^^ Wade did him dirty on that blk:oldlol:



..........

Lebron

LeBron James Traps Rajon Rondo's Layup Against the Glass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORP_YITsLsM

[TKM] - Lebron James Big block on Devin Harris (goal tend but sick)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_xWJyYRJSM

Lebron James blocks Kobe Bryant USA Game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mgiXKcXn1E&feature=related

LeBron James huge rejection vs Wizards Game 2 (check the speed of lebron)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB3qQVDCJB8&feature=related

LeBron James blocks Ronald Flip Murray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prVUY4CZkxE&feature=related

LeBron James rejects Paul Pierce (5.6.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNue32Cd48I

Lebron James rejects Rajan Rondo AGAIN!!! (5.10.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoyAvi-80xY&feature=related

Lebron James blocks Antonio Daniels (4.21.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUy7myvXPWk&feature=related



Slurp Slurp..was it good amigo:D

[Kobe24]

A lot of these are help defense/blind side blocks...kind of like jumping passing lanes or sneaking up for steals...I would like to see them take a page out of Kobe's book and go up and challenge players that are trying to dunk, b/c they definitely have the athleticism.

Post above. :pimp:

[Godfather]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

Kobe blocks Duncan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpN4oKuDy4)

Kobe blocks Kirilenko dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLfBx3BTdA)

Kobe blocks Deron's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw)

Kobe blocks Yao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXxHptH0pI)

Kobe blocks Diaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJSEsoum5o)

Kobe blocks Devin Harris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh4UtPcn8E)

Kobe blocks Dirk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcajjRlgA8)

Of course you do...

[Loki]

LOL @ Kobe homers acting like he's some shotblocking disruptive force. He of the .4-.5 bpg. :oldlol:

[stewen12]

Wade without as doubt is the Best Blocking SG in the League and Lebron only blocks PG

[Godfather]

Wade without as doubt is the Best Blocking SG in the League and Lebron only blocks PG

What exactlly are you talking about. Wade generally blocks perimeter players while LeBron generally blocks whoever is going to the rim whether that may be a 6 ft pg or a 6ft 10 power forward.

[Loki]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

Kobe blocks Duncan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpN4oKuDy4)

Kobe blocks Kirilenko dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLfBx3BTdA)

Kobe blocks Deron's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw)

Kobe blocks Yao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXxHptH0pI)

Kobe blocks Diaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJSEsoum5o)

Kobe blocks Devin Harris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh4UtPcn8E)

Kobe blocks Dirk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcajjRlgA8)

Way to showcase every block Kobe's had in the last couple of seasons.

[Kobe24]

Way to showcase every block Kobe's had in the last couple of seasons.

Umm, those aren't even 1/3 of the blocks Kobe's had this past season. I didn't want to post all. If you want, I can post more.

[Loki]

Umm, those aren't even 1/3 of the blocks Kobe's had this past season. I didn't want to post all. If you want, I can post more.

<This is the sound of large objects flying over your head>

[Godfather]

Umm, those aren't even 1/3 of the blocks Kobe's had this past season. I didn't want to post all. If you want, I can post more.

Did you read the thread topic before posting? This has nothing to do with Kobe Bryant...

[Kobe24]

<This is the sound of large objects flying over your head>


Mentally unbalanced, biased, Kobe-bashing nutjob of a fan

My bad, Jeff.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.
Which reminds me: Exactly why is Bryant regarded as a better defender than James? James actually took on Pierce in his playoff series (and Pierce had a tougher time vs. Cleveland because of James) and nothing Bryant has done defensively has been amazing this season. And in the Olympics, James has so far seemed to be everywhere.

[Real Men Wear Green]

My bad, Jeff.
Actually, some pretty big **** did just whip by...

[Kobe24]

Which reminds me: Exactly why is Bryant regarded as a better defender than James? James actually took on Pierce in his playoff series (and Pierce had a tougher time vs. Cleveland because of James) and nothing Bryant has done defensively has been amazing this season. And in the Olympics, James has so far seemed to be everywhere.

Thanks. I now know to ignore anything you say basketball related. Even ask Loki aka the Kobe basher of the year about Kobe's performance on defense this year.

[Real Men Wear Green]

How about I ask you? Where are his great defensive performances this year? Why does he deserve to be rated over James defensively? Not a play or two, mind you, I'm talking about performances.

[Kblaze8855]

The best defensive swingmen(among stars) I saw this year were Lebron, Kobe, and Pierce with no easily made seperation between them. Lebron was a very very good defender for much of the season. Especially at the start.

And I dont think I saw Lebrons block vs the Suns. I think it was near the end and the Suns were trying to tie. Barbosa I want to say. He rejected it from behind on the break then recovered it...went end to end and dunked it. Arena just went crazy.

[hoopaddict08]

Rodney Stuckey getting blocked by his idol :ohwell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAlGWru4urY

[gyu]

To be honest, I think LeBron's shot blocking ability is very weak considering his size, length, and athleticism. McGrady in his younger years was able to average at least 1 block a season for a few seasons, but he doesn't have the ability LeBron should have.

[Mathius]

LeBron James is one of the strongest players in the NBA. If anything is going to limit him from playing PF and C it is his height...

Lebron is up to 6'9" now. Even at 6'8" with his 250+ lbs of muscle to throw around he can hold his own at the PF spot. He is quite capable of physically playing 4/5 positions, however I don't believe his game suits him to play the PG or SG spot on most teams.


and his terrible post game.

This is an extremely inaccurate statement. Lebron does not have a terrible post game. Lebron has a terrible attitude towards playing the post. When he does play the post, he dominates. If you want to see footage, go look up some of his games late in the year against the Nets two years ago.

If you want to know what I mean about his attitude, go look up his interviews from after those Nets games.

He basically said if he has to play in the post, then the Cavs are in trouble.

I completely disagree with the above statement, and the arrogance that I interpret from that statement as if playing in the post is beneath him. I think everyone who plays should be willing to do whatever is necessary to help his team win, period. He would dominate in the post, and it would only open up his teammates even more, particularly big Z who is money from 20ft.

Mathius

[Sroek]

Wade actually hasn't had a lot of shot blocks in the Olympics,

Yes he does. I believe has at least one per game.

[Loki]

Yes he does. I believe has at least one per game.

Wade hasn't had any blocks in three thre Olympic games thus far, though he is averaging 3 steals per game:

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2008/stats/USA.HTM

[juju151111]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

Kobe blocks Duncan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpN4oKuDy4)

Kobe blocks Kirilenko dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLfBx3BTdA)

Kobe blocks Deron's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw)

Kobe blocks Yao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXxHptH0pI)

Kobe blocks Diaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJSEsoum5o)

Kobe blocks Devin Harris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh4UtPcn8E)

Kobe blocks Dirk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcajjRlgA8)
The point wasn't which blks look better, but who does it more and consistant.

[Knoe Itawl]

Wow, leave it to a Kobe Assh*le to bring him up in this thread. The f*ck does Kobe have to do with Bron and Wade's shotblocking?

This is why people hate Kobe Jerks.

[Vragrant]

The true sign of an obsessed Kobe fan, bringing him up in threads that have nothing to do with him

[Knoe Itawl]

The true sign of an obsessed Kobe fan, bringing him up in threads that have nothing to do with him

So insecure because the two other top perimeter players are being focused on. Seriously, hardcore Kobe fans are the biggest wacko nutjobs in sports.

As for Wade, before he went down to injury he was putting up some sick numbers. Think he was averaging like 1 and change in blocks. Numbers not seen from an sg since Jordan.

[gyu]

So insecure because the two other top perimeter players are being focused on. Seriously, hardcore Kobe fans are the biggest wacko nutjobs in sports.

As for Wade, before he went down to injury he was putting up some sick numbers. Think he was averaging like 1 and change in blocks. Numbers not seen from an sg since Jordan.
What were the numbers?

[Jasper]

A lot of these are help defense/blind side blocks...kind of like jumping passing lanes or sneaking up for steals...I would like to see them take a page out of Kobe's book and go up and challenge players that are trying to dunk, b/c they definitely have the athleticism.

First year Shaq was playing with the Heat - Wade blocked Kobe .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzfe708iF5Y

Wade played SF in Marquette - knows more about blocking and position than the average SG.
A conversion to SG I was skeptical about when he came into the league , and has become a great SG on both sides of the floor.

[veilside23]

i thought we were talking about lebron james and dwayne wade.. i guess am wrong is the kobe bryant general talk back again ? :banghead:


seriously lebron has good timing same goes for wade but if you want to talk about a true defender the one who blocks you upfront ... teyshaun prince is the guy.

[Jasper]

i thought we were talking about lebron james and dwayne wade.. i guess am wrong is the kobe bryant general talk back again ? :banghead:


seriously lebron has good timing same goes for wade but if you want to talk about a true defender the one who blocks you upfront ... teyshaun prince is the guy.

I just made a point about Wade's efficiency level .

[Diesel J]

Lebron only blocks PG

nah...

LeBron James denies Tim Duncan!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGQjWjUuQCU

LeBron James' Block On Drew Gooden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB_RjgC7zKQ&feature=related


Wade is the best shot blocking guard since Mj though

Shaq Fast Break and Wade Blocks Big Ben

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FbzLQHgOUA

[veilside23]

I just made a point about Wade's efficiency level .


am cool with what you said dude.. i was talking about the kobe homerism brought up by no other than kobe24:)

[Diesel J]

LOL @ Kobe homers acting like he's some shotblocking disruptive force. He of the .4-.5 bpg. :oldlol:

:oldlol:

The most blocks that Wade, Kobe and James have had where they atleast played 75 season games

Kobe .8 for 67 blocks (02-03) .5 career

Wade 1.1 for 82 blocks (04-05) .8 for Career

Lebron 1.1 for 81 blocks (07-08) .8 for Career

[gyu]

nah...

LeBron James denies Tim Duncan!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGQjWjUuQCU

LeBron James' Block On Drew Gooden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB_RjgC7zKQ&feature=related


Wade is the best shot blocking guard since Mj though

Shaq Fast Break and Wade Blocks Big Ben

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FbzLQHgOUA
Young McGrady was pretty good, even had a 1.9 blocks per game season.

[Kobe24]

It's a shame Kobe doesn't gamble like Wade and Bron. I guess he'll just have to be happy with his 6 times all defensive first team and 2 time all defensive 2nd team. How will he survive?

[Diesel J]

Anyone have the video of Lebron pinning someones shot in the NBA with 2 hands like MJ did Ron Mercer a while back? I can't think of who the guy was that Lebron did that to.

[Diesel J]

Young McGrady was pretty good, even had a 1.9 blocks per game season.

yeah, he did but in limited minutes. he has some sick blk avgs.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tracy_mcgrady/career_stats.html

01-02 season 1.5 blks :eek: monster:bowdown:

[gyu]

yeah, he did but in limited minutes. he has some sick blk avgs.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tracy_mcgrady/career_stats.html

01-02 season 1.5 blks :eek: monster:bowdown:
Wouldn't that be more impressive if he did it in limited minutes?

[Diesel J]

It's a shame Kobe doesn't gamble like Wade and Bron. I guess he'll just have to be happy with his 6 times all defensive first team and 2 time all defensive 2nd team. How will he survive?


He should have played that first teamer D on Paul Pierce in the finals instead of guarding no jumper Rondo....KObe couldn't even slow down Ray Allen:oldlol: :ohwell:

[ShowtymeCA2NC]

WHo cares who is the best shot Blocking sg/sf...the best out of all sg/sf hasnt even been mentioned ..how about Jsmoove..all of these threads are about nggas either hating on Kobe or Slurpin on Kobe or slurpin on Bron..they must be on alot of yalls minds ..yall hella Gay on this site:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Diesel J]

Wouldn't that be more impressive if he did it in limited minutes?

In limited minutes you can go all out / gamble more on D than you can when you play like 40 mins. That's why T-Mac's D kinda fell off after his first 1-2 years in Orlando. Gotta save that energy for offense. 01-02 season 1.5 blks he did that in 40 min per game though:eek: :bowdown:

[gyu]

WHo cares who is the best shot Blocking sg/sf...the best out of all sg/sf hasnt even been mentioned ..how about Jsmoove..all of these threads are about nggas either hating on Kobe or Slurpin on Kobe or slurpin on Bron..they must be on alot of yalls minds ..yall helal Gay on this site:roll: :roll: :roll:
Didn't he play pf last season?

[ShowtymeCA2NC]

Didn't he play pf last season?
nah pimp,the Rookie of the Year(shoulda been) played that..



Gators 2008 ncaa champions

[Loki]

It's a shame Kobe doesn't gamble like Wade and Bron. I guess he'll just have to be happy with his 6 times all defensive first team and 2 time all defensive 2nd team. How will he survive?

LOL @ this tool thinking that blocks are "gambling." If you have great instincts (which Kobe doesn't), there's virtually no risk involved.

[Sroek]

Wouldn't that be more impressive if he did it in limited minutes?

No... it's easier to average higher percentages if your minutes are limited. For example, if you only shoot just one 3 in your career and make it, your career 3pt% would be 100%. If you had 5 blocks in one game, you'd average 5 blocks per game.

[Younggrease]

LOL @ this tool thinking that blocks are "gambling." If you have great instincts (which Kobe doesn't), there's virtually no risk involved.

Kobe isnt the athletic freak Wade and Lebron are...He can do it in spurts but Kobe's body isnt able to consistently to that grind. If you wanna see the instincts just look at the beginning of this year. The difference is that Kobe isnt the overwhelming athlete that they are and I find it funny when people compare Kobe to other better athlete and never mention the difference. Kobe was never really a freak athlete but he maximized his athletic potential. Wade and Bron are freak athletes...

[gyu]

No... it's easier to average higher percentages if your minutes are limited. For example, if you only shoot just one 3 in your career and make it, your career 3pt% would be 100%. If you had 5 blocks in one game, you'd average 5 blocks per game.
Yeah but he still did it over a span of 70+ games with ~30 minutes per game, not 1 game.

[Loki]

If you wanna see the instincts just look at the beginning of this year.

I don't buy that at all. Kobe early in the year was gunning for every block even when it was poor defense to do so. That's not instinct, that's trying to prove a point. Wade and James' blocks aren't like that. Gotta love how when Kobe is averaging 2+ steal/1+ blk for the first 10 games of the season, Kobe fans are splooging at his defense, but then when -- as people like myself predicted, since it was clear he was gunning for every block and going outside of his game to do so -- he finished the year averaging basically his normal averages in those categories, all the excuses come.

Wade is not a better athlete than Kobe is/was. Get real. They simply have better instincts than he does, and, at this point in their respective careers, more stamina as well. Wade in particular. Kobe has never been able to sniff out plays like Wade does, nor has he ever been the defensive playmaker Wade is. Ever.

Only in a Kobe fan's world does doing something for 10 games = doing it for 2+ seasons. :oldlol: Btw, if the only reason they get more blocks than him is because they're so superior as athletes, how was Kobe able to get a lot of blocks "early in the year" to begin with? Maybe we should keep making special rules for Kobe, where if he does something for a game or three, it's equal in value and validity to something other players did for 80+ games.

[plowking]

Kobe isnt the athletic freak Wade and Lebron are...He can do it in spurts but Kobe's body isnt able to consistently to that grind. If you wanna see the instincts just look at the beginning of this year. The difference is that Kobe isnt the overwhelming athlete that they are and I find it funny when people compare Kobe to other better athlete and never mention the difference. Kobe was never really a freak athlete but he maximized his athletic potential. Wade and Bron are freak athletes...


:violin:

The only thing Wade has over Kobe is speed. Everything else is probably in Kobe's favour.

[MrEncinas]

:violin:

The only thing Wade has over Kobe is speed. Everything else is probably in Kobe's favour.
Agreed, but I don't think either is really that far apart from the other from an athletic standpoint to really debate over it.

[Sroek]

I don't buy that at all. Kobe early in the year was gunning for every block even when it was poor defense to do so. That's not instinct, that's trying to prove a point. Wade and James' blocks aren't like that. Gotta love how when Kobe is averaging 2+ steal/1+ blk for the first 10 games of the season, Kobe fans are splooging at his defense, but then when -- as people like myself predicted, since it was clear he was gunning for every block and going outside of his game to do so -- he finished the year averaging basically his normal averages in those categories, all the excuses come.

Wade is not a better athlete than Kobe is/was. Get real. They simply have better instincts than he does, and, at this point in their respective careers, more stamina as well. Wade in particular. Kobe has never been able to sniff out plays like Wade does, nor has he ever been the defensive playmaker Wade is. Ever.

Only in a Kobe fan's world does doing something for 10 games = doing it for 2+ seasons. :oldlol: Btw, if the only reason they get more blocks than him is because they're so superior as athletes, how was Kobe able to get a lot of blocks "early in the year" to begin with? Maybe we should keep making special rules for Kobe, where if he does something for a game or three, it's equal in value and validity to something other players did for 80+ games.

People who actually WATCH Laker games and not just the ones that are nationally broadcasted knows that Kobe's defensive/shotblocking instincts are on par with Wade's. Your opinions are just obviously too biased to realize it.

[Jimmy2k8]

Loki is going straight to my ignore list again...along with 3-4 other posters in this thread.


I don't think I can stand Wade-Kobe-Lebron sh!t with Loki, some of the kobe homers, and Kobe haters anymore.

[Jimmy2k8]

Oh and Kobe24, you're so close to being added to my ignore list. What was the point of your dumbass post anyway?

[plowking]

People who actually WATCH Laker games and not just the ones that are nationally broadcasted knows that Kobe's defensive/shotblocking instincts are on par with Wade's. Your opinions are just obviously too biased to realize it.

That's why there is a great disparity in their block numbers right?

Some of you Kobe fans need to realise that Kobe is not the best at everything in the game of basketball. He may be the best rounded player at the moment (though debatable now going on his string of bad performances in the playoffs and now Olympics), though he sure as hell is not a better blocker then Wade.

[plowking]

Loki is going straight to my ignore list again...along with 3-4 other posters in this thread.


I don't think I can stand Wade-Kobe-Lebron sh!t with Loki, some of the kobe homers, and Kobe haters anymore.

He's simply stating facts. This time seriously its not even a discussion, he was being touted for his great defense at the start of the season, and then when Wade and Lebron kicked into gear, his supposed "man defense" was far above that of Wade's and Lebron's so he still gets the nod as the better defender. I don't mind that, but no way in hell is Kobe a better blocker then Wade.

[Jimmy2k8]

He's simply stating facts.

He's a troll. I don't care if he's simply stating facts, just about every thread that involves Kobe, he'll post his obvious agenda.


You are blind if you don't think he's a god dam troll.

[Kobe24]

Oh and Kobe24, you're so close to being added to my ignore list. What was the point of your dumbass post anyway?

Listen kid, you're 14 years old. I have nothing to prove to you and I don't want to impress you. You add nothing to this forum except one liners. You aren't even a true Laker fan. You adding me to your ignore list is an accomplishment to me. Now GTFO.

[Jimmy2k8]

Listen kid, you're 14 years old.

I am 15 :hammerhead: unless this is still 2007. :rolleyes: and I could care less if you think I am not a true Laker fan.


You add nothing to this forum except one liners.


Only in your world Kobe24, only in your world.


You adding me to your ignore list is an accomplishment to me. Now GTFO.

Time to get your eyes checked boy. I said you were close fool.

[veilside23]

this shouldnt have happen if the homerism of kobe24 started in the first place... hopefully homers will learn a thing or two from this thread. lets just get back to the topic.

[Kobe24]

I am 15 :hammerhead: unless this is still 2007. :rolleyes: and I could care less if you think I am not a true Laker fan.




Only in your world Kobe24, only in your world.

You could care less? Awesome, that means you care. :rockon:

[Jimmy2k8]

You could care less? Awesome, that means you care. :rockon:


http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u6/nickclaw/warfgif.gif

[KenneBell]

I'm way more impressed by Wade's shotblocking than LeBron's. He has a very good knack of coming from the weakside and getting blocks. Impressive for an SG.

Kobe's more of a "do it when I really need to". Otherwise he's not going to waste his time rising up to get at someone especially not at this point in his career.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

DWade is a better shot blocker than Kobe. no doubt.
but that does not make him a better defender. Indeed, Kobe is the better defender, esp on-ball.

[plowking]

DWade is a better shot blocker than Kobe. no doubt.
but that does not make him a better defender. Indeed, Kobe is the better defender, esp on-ball.

Thank you, a sensible Lakers fan.

[Loki]

People who actually WATCH Laker games and not just the ones that are nationally broadcasted knows that Kobe's defensive/shotblocking instincts are on par with Wade's.

This is the biggest BS I've ever read. :oldlol: Kobe's instincts are equal to Wade's -- what's next, you gonna tell me that he can penetrate just as well, too? :oldlol:

[Rockets(T-mac)]

DWade is a better shot blocker than Kobe. no doubt.
but that does not make him a better defender. Indeed, Kobe is the better defender, esp on-ball.
This I agree with.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Thank you, a sensible Lakers fan.

oh no. no way.
gts. socalmike. ihatetimthomas.
Those guys are sensible laker fans.

me? I'm a homer...all the way.
Kobe is the greatest. Bynum is Shaq. all that nonsense.

[gpfanz]

I think Greece made like 334535465 layups versus the USA few days ago so.. :(

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

This I agree with.

really?
then I take it back!

:)

[Rockets(T-mac)]

really?
then I take it back!

:)
lol then I take my agree back too.

[Diesel J]

Kobe isnt the athletic freak Wade and Lebron are...He can do it in spurts but Kobe's body isnt able to consistently to that grind. If you wanna see the instincts just look at the beginning of this year. The difference is that Kobe isnt the overwhelming athlete that they are and I find it funny when people compare Kobe to other better athlete and never mention the difference. Kobe was never really a freak athlete but he maximized his athletic potential. Wade and Bron are freak athletes...

Wade isn't a "freak" athlete. IMO, him and Kobe have equal hops but Kobe's obviously taller/longer. Wade is quicker and faster though. Remember, wade is only like 6 foot 3.

[Younggrease]

Wade isn't a "freak" athlete. IMO, him and Kobe have equal hops but Kobe's obviously taller/longer. Wade is quicker and faster though. Remember, wade is only like 6 foot 3.

Kobe's body is really frail though..I dont think it could take the consistent contact Wade draws. I dont think he is built to play that way, Wade is also much stronger then Kobe.

[Scott Pippen]

DWade is a better shot blocker than Kobe. no doubt.
but that does not make him a better defender. Indeed, Kobe is the better defender, esp on-ball.

agree:applause:

[Diesel J]

Lebron James Block's party vs Golden State Warriors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpynjLp9V4

[RoseCity07]

I think Wade is the best shot blocking guard in the league. He has great timing and seems to have a sense when to go for the block.

[Diesel J]

Kobe's body is really frail though..I dont think it could take the consistent contact Wade draws. I dont think he is built to play that way, Wade is also much stronger then Kobe.

Kobe is stronger than Wade...the difference between the two is that Wade is tougher and very reckless.

[plowking]

Kobe is stronger than Wade...the difference between the two is that Wade is tougher and very reckless.

Wade has 25lbs on him. He's easily stronger.

[eliteballer]

Which reminds me: Exactly why is Bryant regarded as a better defender than James? James actually took on Pierce in his playoff series (and Pierce had a tougher time vs. Cleveland because of James) and nothing Bryant has done defensively has been amazing this season. And in the Olympics, James has so far seemed to be everywhere.

Your teams OWN COACH said Kobe's the best help defender he's seen since Pippen.

[eliteballer]

Wade isn't a "freak" athlete. IMO, him and Kobe have equal hops but Kobe's obviously taller/longer. Wade is quicker and faster though. Remember, wade is only like 6 foot 3.

Wade's hops are nowhere near Kobes:oldlol:

[Human Error]

People who actually WATCH Laker games and not just the ones that are nationally broadcasted knows that Kobe's defensive/shotblocking instincts are on par with Wade's. Your opinions are just obviously too biased to realize it.
But you don't watch the Heat games. GTFO.

[Diesel J]

Wade has 25lbs on him. He's easily stronger.

are you talking about Wade's weight since he got injured or before?

[Diesel J]

Wade's hops are nowhere near Kobes:oldlol:

What's Kobe vert? I quick search on Wade's..


He's one of the most electrifying superstars in the NBA. He is 6-4 and 212 pounds and has a 39-inch vertical leap, a near 7-foot wingspan and hands big enough to palm a medicine ball.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/heat/2005-02-17-wade-all-star_x.htm

[eliteballer]

Wade's vertical was measured at 35 inches in the predraft camp:

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2003&sort2=ASC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=

Wade doesn't match the elevation or distance Kobe pulls out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

[loot]

What's with the Kobe talk in here? This is about Wade and Bron isn't it? What's Kobe doing in here? Would you bring up Kobe if I'd ask which player is the best Coverse sponsored player? Would Kobe pop up in a thread about restaurants? Or which frog is the most poisonous? Crazy.

A quick google search says Kobe has a 38 and Wade has a 39 inch vertical by the way, but let's not get into that.

Wade blocking numbers of last seasons:

2003-04 0.6
*2004-05 1.1
*2005-06 0.8
*2006-07 1.2
*2007-08 0.7

Post All Star he was at 0.9 again.

[loot]

BTW Fransisco Garcia is a great shot blocker too.

[plowking]

Your teams OWN COACH said Kobe's the best help defender he's seen since Pippen.

Good help defenders usually have the stats to back it up.

[plowking]

What's with the Kobe talk in here? This is about Wade and Bron isn't it? What's Kobe doing in here? Would you bring up Kobe if I'd ask which player is the best Coverse sponsored player? Would Kobe pop up in a thread about restaurants? Or which frog is the most poisonous? Crazy.

A quick google search says Kobe has a 38 and Wade has a 39 inch vertical by the way, but let's not get into that.

Wade blocking numbers of last seasons:

2003-04 0.6
*2004-05 1.1
*2005-06 0.8
*2006-07 1.2
*2007-08 0.7

Post All Star he was at 0.9 again.

I read somewhere that both Brandon Roy and Wade had 40 inch verticles. Though that seemed a bit far fetched for both players and 35 sounds more reasonable for Wade.

Kobe fans, even if Wade doesn't have a bigger vertical then Kobe, shows how much better his defensive insticts are then Kobe's if he's getting more done with less physical tools.

[Diesel J]

Wade's vertical was measured at 35 inches in the predraft camp:



what's Kobe's vertical?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Your teams OWN COACH said Kobe's the best help defender he's seen since Pippen.
And I have to agree? Coaches hype up the opposition all the time. Someone please show me how Kobe's "help defense" got LA past Boston this year. Oh, wait...

[Knoe Itawl]

And the Kobe D!kkriders take over the thread.

Anyone who wants to know what I'm talking about when I condemn them as the worst fans in sports only need to refer back to this thread. Just a bunch of insecure hero worshipping weirdos that need to inject their God into things he has nothing to do with.

[stewen12]

Loot already posted that Kobe has a 38 inch vertical and Wade has a 39 so all of you that said Wade wasnt even close are sooo wrong

[stewen12]

I read somewhere that both Brandon Roy and Wade had 40 inch verticles. Though that seemed a bit far fetched for both players and 35 sounds more reasonable for Wade.

Kobe fans, even if Wade doesn't have a bigger vertical then Kobe, shows how much better his defensive insticts are then Kobe's if he's getting more done with less physical tools.
Wade has gotten much stronger, quick, faster and better since the predraft camp. I could believe that he easily has a 39 vertical leap

[Kobe24]

No way does Wade have a higher vert than Kobe.

[Younggrease]

Loot already posted that Kobe has a 38 inch vertical and Wade has a 39 so all of you that said Wade wasnt even close are sooo wrong

neither have a 38 inch vert

[Loki]

Your teams OWN COACH said Kobe's the best help defender he's seen since Pippen.

LMAO @ this clown clinging to this clearly incorrect assessment. :oldlol:

[Diesel J]

No way does Wade have a higher vert than Kobe.

they look to have similar hops to me

[Diesel J]

update:cheers:

So far this year as of 12-16-2008

Lebron 1.2 Blks

D wade 1.6 blks

[All Net]

Lebron's block against the Bobcats was nasty.

[Diesel J]

Top five Blocks by LeBron James - November 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a-KKoUx1bQ&NR=1

[Diesel J]

Lebron's block against the Bobcats was nasty.

Hmm..I don't remember that one but here goes a few other blks from Lberon this season

LeBron blocks Sessions layup 11-29-08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUSDtDqyoLg&feature=related


Lebron James Blocks Chris Duhon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyTrmsXCFdE&feature=related

LeBron James Big Block On Iggy VS 76ers(12.12.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrr897xjp4w&feature=related

LeBron James Big Block On Earl Watson VS Thunder(11.26.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bywN0vqB-s&feature=related

[All Net]

think it was the one where Felton had what looked like an easy lay-up but Bron came from from the weakside and threw it into the 2nd row.

[Loki]

Top five Blocks by LeBron James - November 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a-KKoUx1bQ&NR=1

That #4 blocks looks almost exactly like a block Jordan had on Stockton on the break that they show on one of the Bulls highlight videos. Wish I could find it. Literally almost exactly the same play in every respect.

[Lebron23]

LeBron James is also averaging 2.04 spg, and many people here will agree that he's also a top 5 best defender in the NBA this season.

[1~Gibson~1]

LeBron James is also averaging 2.04 spg, and many people here will agree that he's also a top 5 best defender in the NBA this season.no :hammerhead:

Lots of Steals means that you take lots of chances trying to steal and when you done succeed in stealing the ball the defender goes right by you and we're one man short on defense. 2 easy points for them. LBJ is a GOOD defender but not Top 5.

[ScoopShot]

Umm, those aren't even 1/3 of the blocks Kobe's had this past season. I didn't want to post all. If you want, I can post more.

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc344/libero_msia/Kobe_statue.gif

Watch the balls drop and do what you do best... we're talking about Lebron and Wade here and not Kobe... BTW, for the season Kobe is only getting 0.4 bpg, Lebron 1.2 bpg and Wade 1.5 bpg. Kobe is ranked 87th in bpg this season! Even Jason Kidd is getting 0.6 bpg. Go away Kobe b@lllicker!!!

[1~Gibson~1]

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc344/libero_msia/Kobe_statue.gif

Watch the balls drop and do what you do best... we're talking about Lebron and Wade here and not Kobe... BTW, for the season Kobe is only getting 0.4 bpg, Lebron 1.2 bpg and Wade 1.5 bpg. Kobe is ranked 87th in bpg this season! Even Jason Kidd is getting 0.6 bpg. Go away Kobe b@lllicker!!!:roll:

[JJ81]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

Kobe blocks Duncan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpN4oKuDy4)

Kobe blocks Kirilenko dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLfBx3BTdA)

Kobe blocks Deron's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw)

Kobe blocks Yao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXxHptH0pI)

Kobe blocks Diaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJSEsoum5o)

Kobe blocks Devin Harris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh4UtPcn8E)

Kobe blocks Dirk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcajjRlgA8)

I agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoL0WzSexWc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XrJmK1B2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIMEgEA9kY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCrvCbh26K8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzBAZ6rFjQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ngZg3BGvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0H6ptzWs4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-baWS13MzPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhqMuo12ex4

Soooo many more.

[plowking]

LeBron James is also averaging 2.04 spg, and many people here will agree that he's also a top 5 best defender in the NBA this season.

Says who?

This Lebron is a lockdown defender is ridiculous. I guess Kobe's defense is awesome this year seeing as he is keeping the opposing shooting guard to the lowest points total on average. No, its the team that is helping him.

Lebron is not a top 5 defender.

[lilojmayo]

Says who?

This Lebron is a lockdown defender is ridiculous. I guess Kobe's defense is awesome this year seeing as he is keeping the opposing shooting guard to the lowest points total on average. No, its the team that is helping him.

Lebron is not a top 5 defender.

also IMO Lebron Averaging 1.2 blocks a game is so pathetic so i dont c why ur praising him Lebron23

Lebron is 6'9 with a 7ft wingspan and has a 38in vertical he should be in the Josh Smith Terrority in blocks of 2+ each night

[glidedrxlr22]

Kobe24 go worship somewhere else. This thread wasn't meant for your god. Jimmy2K8, you try to pass as a sensible Lakers fan but whenever there's a comparison of some sort...you always go with the Lakers or Lakers players. Loki might have an agenda, but he backs it up solidly everytime. If it wasn't for the Kobe nutthuggers then we wouldn't need Loki and Knoe.

Now going back to the original purpose of this thread. I agree that Wade and Lebron are good shotblockers for their positions. Any blocks you can get out of your SG or SF position are a big bonus.

[Mdog1]

also IMO Lebron Averaging 1.2 blocks a game is so pathetic so i dont c why ur praising him Lebron23

Lebron is 6'9 with a 7ft wingspan and has a 38in vertical he should be in the Josh Smith Terrority in blocks of 2+ each night
Why should he average 2 a game?

[AItheAnswer3]

LeBron James is also averaging 2.04 spg, and many people here will agree that he's also a top 5 best defender in the NBA this season.

Please.

[Mdog1]

Did someone call him a top 5 defender? lol at that. I think he has the tools to be the best of all time if he really works at it but come on right now he is maybe 10 in the league if not 15. He isn't a bad defender one on one, or help, but he just isn't an amazing defender. He is however better than a lot of star players like Amare, Wade, Paul, Williams, etc. Although I like Williams D better than Pauls he still isn't amazing at it. Any way LBJ is in the top of the league, just needs to keep improving.

[lilojmayo]

Why should he average 2 a game?

because of how athletic he is we all can realize even the bron haters that the dude a freak athletically, but it doesnt show on his defensive numbers

he vertical and size is comparable to josh smith actually i said that backwards josh smith vertical and size is comparable to bron both 38in verts both 6'9 and josh averages like 2.5 bpg

[Diesel J]

These dudes seem to get alot of blks from the Sg/Sf spot and watching Lebron James swating these shots away so far in the Olympics makes me remember that for a good part of last season, he was getting like 2 blks per game. Wade is like a young Jordan the way he sneaks up on dudes to get blks. Wade has already had 2 seasons where he avg atleast 1 blk.

Some vids

Wade

Dwyane Wade blocks Tony Parker 2 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3Z46t3xY8&fm=18

Dwyane Wade blocks Carmelo Anthony's shot and then they laugh it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_geK8mlsY&feature=related

dwyane wade block amare stoudemire and the does a buzzer beater from halfcourt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujgX3IlUFGo&feature=related

Dwyane Wade blocks Mike James

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zAs6sS8yk

Dwyane Wade blocks Nate Robinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbg9Oxzs3E&feature=related

Dwyane Wade blocks Ime Udoka (Spurs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleLo1eKEkM

Wade blks Kobe 2 times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzfe708iF5Y

Dwyane Wade blocks Jelani McCoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5cg7H0b3U8

^^ Wade did him dirty on that blk:oldlol:



..........

Lebron

LeBron James Traps Rajon Rondo's Layup Against the Glass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORP_YITsLsM

[TKM] - Lebron James Big block on Devin Harris (goal tend but sick)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_xWJyYRJSM

Lebron James blocks Kobe Bryant USA Game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mgiXKcXn1E&feature=related

LeBron James huge rejection vs Wizards Game 2 (check the speed of lebron)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB3qQVDCJB8&feature=related

LeBron James blocks Ronald Flip Murray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prVUY4CZkxE&feature=related

LeBron James rejects Paul Pierce (5.6.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNue32Cd48I

Lebron James rejects Rajan Rondo AGAIN!!! (5.10.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoyAvi-80xY&feature=related

Lebron James blocks Antonio Daniels (4.21.08)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUy7myvXPWk&feature=related


Update

Wade chases Redick for the rejection (last night)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Kl7n9MemU



LeBron James rejects Sam Dalembert (the other night)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pgqmFcBO28

[Andrei89]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

[/URL]

You are a freaking kone fanboy you gaylord troll.

GTFo out of this thread

[plowking]

I never understood why James is touted as great for his shotblocking skills, when Wade is clearly better than him at it, while being significantly smaller.

[Diesel J]

I never understood why James is touted as great for his shotblocking skills, when Wade is clearly better than him at it, while being significantly smaller.

Dudes are more cautious around Lebron then they are around Wade and while Wade is shorter in inches, he makes up for it with his long wingspan which is deceptive.

[kkling]

I never understood why James is touted as great for his shotblocking skills, when Wade is clearly better than him at it, while being significantly smaller.

I just like his chase down blocks.

[OneMoreSucka]

because of how athletic he is we all can realize even the bron haters that the dude a freak athletically, but it doesnt show on his defensive numbers

he vertical and size is comparable to josh smith actually i said that backwards josh smith vertical and size is comparable to bron both 38in verts both 6'9 and josh averages like 2.5 bpg
Josh Smith is a power forward, he's around the rim way more than Lebron.

[plowking]

Dudes are more cautious around Lebron then they are around Wade and while Wade is shorter in inches, he makes up for it with his long wingspan which is deceptive.

That excuse was about as good as Kobe fans excuse of "Kobe sees more triple teams than Wade and Lebron, that's why he shoots a lower FG%" of past seasons.

[Dresta]

Eh. I prefer Kobe's blocks.

Kobe blocks Duncan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpN4oKuDy4)

Kobe blocks Kirilenko dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLfBx3BTdA)

Kobe blocks Deron's dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw)

Kobe blocks Yao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXxHptH0pI)

Kobe blocks Diaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJSEsoum5o)

Kobe blocks Devin Harris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh4UtPcn8E)

Kobe blocks Dirk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcajjRlgA8)
Kobe doesn't belong in this conversation homer.

[macpierce]

yeah kobe's best blocking days are behind him since he got old athletically, anyways i can appreciates wades blocking more than lebrons cuz he is smaller

[Dresta]

Wade's vertical was measured at 35 inches in the predraft camp:

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2003&sort2=ASC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=

Wade doesn't match the elevation or distance Kobe pulls out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRsAnd you think that doesn't change? Wade wasn't nearly the same athlete in college as he was in the NBA.

[B-Easy]

A lot of these are help defense/blind side blocks...kind of like jumping passing lanes or sneaking up for steals...I would like to see them take a page out of Kobe's book and go up and challenge players that are trying to dunk, b/c they definitely have the athleticism.

just last night he blocked Pietrus dunk attempt..not many superstars would take a chance of getting dunked on national TV.