In all serious where do u have Lebrons ceiling alltime after 10 seasons?

I have his absolute ceiling 5th but not a lock he makes it

MJ is for sure better than Lebron ever was anyone who watched both knows that.

KAJ is much better, GOAT longevity, arguably the GOAT.

Russell was too dominant in the playoff.

Shaq was too dominant in his peak and playoff. Hes a much better playoff and finals performer than Lebron in his prime.

So 5th for me right now hes under the Larry, Kobe, Magic tier. Hes with Wilt and Timmy.

Realistically, his only true challenges in terms of career resume if everything pans out are KAJ and Jordan. Everyone else is likely to get leapfrogged.

his ceiling has always been GOAT and it still is, he won't be though.

[QUOTE=moe94]Realistically, his only true challenges in terms of career resume if everything pans out are KAJ and Jordan. Everyone else is likely to get leapfrogged.[/QUOTE]

Cosign.

[QUOTE=moe94]Realistically, his only true challenges in terms of career resume if everything pans out are KAJ and Jordan. Everyone else is likely to get leapfrogged.[/QUOTE]
How he gonna leapfrog Shaq and Russell:biggums:

What if he reels off 8 straight championships from now. He finishes with 10.

Your ceiling of 5th looks pretty stupid then.

Hes as good as any player that's ever played. Clearly one of the most impactful players in history with the way he led terrible teams to insane amounts of wins. His place in history is based on how much more he can achieve. Hes a lock for top 10 already even if he doesn't win anymore championships. Longevity will simply get him there in most peoples eyes.

[QUOTE=Hamtaro CP3KDKG]How he gonna leapfrog Shaq and Russell:biggums:[/QUOTE]

I don't rank Russell because of his rings playing alongside HoF in every position. His defense could be the GOAT but his offense wasn't anything to write home about. I'm not one to overrate rings.

Shaq? Shaq isn't even above Duncan and Kobe in terms of career. His peak might be the GOAT or very very close to it but his career isn't that hard to beat for LeBron, in my honest opinion.

[QUOTE=plowking]What if he reels off 8 straight championships from now. He finishes with 10.

Your ceiling of 5th looks pretty stupid then.

Hes as good as any player that's ever played. Clearly one of the most impactful players in history with the way he led terrible teams to insane amounts of wins. His place in history is based on how much more he can achieve. Hes a lock for top 10 already even if he doesn't win anymore championships. Longevity will simply get him there in most peoples eyes.[/QUOTE]


He's also completely laid several eggs in finals games dude. Those do hurt.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]He's also completely laid several eggs in finals games dude. Those do hurt.[/QUOTE]

So has Kobe. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=moe94]So has Kobe. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]



And do people not bring those up?

[QUOTE=oh the horror]He's also completely laid several eggs in finals games dude. Those do hurt.[/QUOTE]

So did Bird... So did Magic... etc.

Go look at Jordan's Seattle series in 96... Look at his performance over the last 3 or 4 games. The only difference is his team pulled through for him, much like they did for Bird in his first finals victory.
We all know Wilt's history in the finals... hes had a couple shockers.

Point is, most players have. Some have, and they get hidden due to the team doing well and negating it.
Lets be honest. Most casual fans have no clue about Jordan's 5-19 game against Seattle. How about Kobe's 6-24? Nope. They just know they won.
Didn't happen to Lebron in some cases, and it is what it is.

[QUOTE=moe94]So has Kobe. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Except Kobe shot 6-24 in the biggest game of his career, which is hilariously worse.

[QUOTE=funnystuff]Except Kobe shot 6-24 in the biggest game of his career, which is hilariously worse.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OoOY5ahvs[/url]

[QUOTE=Magic 32][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OoOY5ahvs[/url][/QUOTE]
Wai

[QUOTE=Magic 32][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OoOY5ahvs[/url][/QUOTE]

You lost your damn mind.