Which MVP(if any) did Steve Nash deserve?

[B][U]2005 Nash[/U][/B]
-15.5 PPG
-3.3 RPG
-11.5 APG
-1.0 SPG
-34.3 MPG
-50.2% from the field
-43.1% from downtown
-22.0 PER
-60.6 TS%
-55.7 eFG%
-Suns 2-5 without Nash


[B][U]2005 Shaq[/U][/B]
-22.9 PPG
-10.4 RPG
-2.7 APG
-2.3 BPG
-34.1 MPG
-60.1% from the field
-27.0 PER
-58.3 TS%
-60.1 eFG%
-Heat 6-3 without Shaq
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[B][U]2006 Nash[/U][/B]
-18.8 PPG
-4.2 RPG
-10.5 APG
-0.8 SPG
-35.4 MPG
-51.2% from the field
-23.3 PER
-63.2 TS%
-58.3 eFG%
-Suns 0-3 without Nash


[B][U]2006 Kobe[/U][/B]
-35.4 PPG
-5.3 RPG
-4.5 APG
-1.8 SPG
-41.0 MPG
-45.0% from the field
-28.0 PER
-55.9 TS%
-49.1 eFG%
-Lakers 0-2 without Kobe


[B][U]2006 LeBron[/U][/B]
-31.4 PPG
-7.0 RPG
-6.6 APG
-1.3 SPG
-0.7 BPG
-42.5 MPG
-48.0% from the field
-28.1 PER
-56.8 TS%
-51.5 eFG%
-Cavs 3-0 without LeBron


[B][U]2006 Dirk[/U][/B]
-26.6 PPG
-9.0 RPG
-2.8 APG
-1.0 BPG
-38.1 MPG
-48.0% from the field
-28.1 PER
-58.9 TS%
-51.5 eFG%
-Mavs lost only game Dirk didn't play

Shaq was truely the MVP in 05, stats dont come close to showing his imapct for Miami that season.

He was the favourite all season too until some stupid journos started hyping Nash.

Its pathetic that these people choose 'the best player'.

I'm comfortable with Nash in 06.

[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8740"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8740[/URL]

Back to back is probably a bit much, but Nash deserves at least one. And not necessarily in 05 and 06, but 2007 (the year he didn't win).

To defend Nash's MVPs...

2006 was a year where no one really had a much stronger case. Kobe was great obviously but his team was mediocre. The Pistons ran amok throughout the regular season but that was team everyone agreed had no true superstar/most important player. The Spurs, if I remember correctly (I'm doing all this off memory and not googling) had the best record in the West but that was the year Tim Duncan had career lows in points. Lebron was amazing as always but his team was also mediocre.

Nash upped his 2005 numbers and still led his team to 50+ wins despite losing Amare and Joe Johnson. He exceeded expectations, and we all know how much that sway voters (cough Derrick Rose cough)

It was one of those years where no one could say "wait a minute, I have a much better case than Nash for the MVP".

Bottom line: perhaps 2 MVPs for Nash is a bit much, but he definitely should have one somewhere.

About the 2005 MVP: I, too, like many, thought it was RIDICULOUS at the time that Nash beat out Shaq. But then came the second round of the playoffs... Nash pulled a Jordan/Magic performance on the Mavericks while Shaq sat out two games in the second round and Miami didn't even miss a beat.

[quote=EricForman]Back to back is probably a bit much, but Nash deserves at least one. And not necessarily in 05 and 06, but 2007 (the year he didn't win).

To defend Nash's MVPs...

2006 was a year where no one really had a much stronger case. Kobe was great obviously but his team was mediocre. The Pistons ran amok throughout the regular season but that was team everyone agreed had no true superstar/most important player. The Spurs, if I remember correctly (I'm doing all this off memory and not googling) had the best record in the West but that was the year Tim Duncan had career lows in points. Lebron was amazing as always but his team was also mediocre.

Nash upped his 2005 numbers and still led his team to 50+ wins despite losing Amare and Joe Johnson. He exceeded expectations, and we all know how much that sway voters (cough Derrick Rose cough)

It was one of those years where no one could say "wait a minute, I have a much better case than Nash for the MVP".

Bottom line: perhaps 2 MVPs for Nash is a bit much, but he definitely should have one somewhere.

About the 2005 MVP: I, too, like many, thought it was RIDICULOUS at the time that Nash beat out Shaq. But then came the second round of the playoffs... Nash pulled a Jordan/Magic performance on the Mavericks while Shaq sat out two games in the second round and Miami didn't even miss a beat.[/quote]

Dirk was a real shot in 06, and there was even some Elton Brand talk.

06 was more deserving than 05. I actually think his 07 run gets really overlooked. I remember the 07 race was between Dirk and Nash, Nash getting his 3rd or Dirk getting his 1st. Wow, imagine Nash getting his 3rd. :oldlol:

All of them. The next one as well (which Dirk won)

[QUOTE=Friday]06 was more deserving than 05. I actually think his 07 run gets really overlooked. I remember the 07 race was between Dirk and Nash, Nash getting his 3rd or Dirk getting his 1st. Wow, imagine Nash getting his 3rd. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


I can see it... 19/4/12 on AMAZING shooting.

I say Steve Nash MVP every year from 05- 08 and then slip him another MVP in 10'

:D Beast mode

Edit: you know what just Give him the MVP year from 05' straight through to 10' He even had a case for this year.

Both of those that he actually got and one more that Dirk won.

The NBA is rigged for African born white Canadians..... Duh.

1990- Magic
1991- Jordan
1992- Jordan
1993- Barkley (Hakeem)
1994- Hakeem (Robinson)
1995- Robinson
1996- Jordan
1997- K. Malone (Jordan)
1998- K. Malone (Jordan)
1999- Duncan (Zo or Malone)
2000- Shaq
2001- Shaq
2002- Duncan
2003- Duncan
2004- Garnett
2005- Shaq (Nash)
2006- Kobe (Nash or Dirk)
2007- Dirk
2008- CP3 (Kobe)
2009- Lebron
2010- Lebron
2011- Dwight (Lebron)

From
The "who should have been" MVP in the year...
thread

Love Steve Nash, but I wouldn't have given him either MVP.

What was the record of the Suns the year before Nash? 29-53
What was the record of the Suns after the first year with Nash? 62-20

He deserve his '05 MVP

[QUOTE=G-train]
He was the favourite all season too until some stupid journos started hyping Nash.
[/QUOTE]

This is factually incorrect, your memory has failed you. And Shaq missed a fair number of games down the stretch.

Phoenix added Nash and went from a 20 something win team to a near 60 win team (or 60 win, too lazy to google). At the all star break people were coming to grips with the fact that Nash was perhaps the MVP of the first half but they expected him to tail off and slow down in the second half. Never happened, MVP.

So nice he did it twice.