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Ben Wallace. I am biased, but he has a pretty big edge over Dikembe
[QUOTE=TheSilentKiller]Ben Wallace. I am biased, but he has a pretty big edge over Dikembe[/QUOTE]
I agree...not biased personally, but I think Deke's defense is fairly overrated (all-time great shotblocker for sure and his longevity should be commended), but Big Ben had a much bigger impact on that side of the ball.
lol. kids.
Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo for sure.
Not sure if the posters above have ever watched Mutombo playing.
[QUOTE=LEFT4DEAD]Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo for sure.
Not sure if the posters above have ever watched Mutombo playing.[/QUOTE]
This right here. He'd average 4BPG if people weren't so scared of going to the rim.
I'm afraid Ben would have been eaten alive by the centers Deke played against.
[QUOTE=Solid Snake]lol. kids.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for being condescending/rude and contributing absolutely nothing to the thread! :cheers:
[QUOTE=LEFT4DEAD]Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo for sure.
Not sure if the posters above have ever watched Mutombo playing.[/QUOTE]
Can't speak for TheSilentKiller, but I started watching in '91.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]This right here. He'd average 4BPG if people weren't so scared of going to the rim.[/QUOTE]
I didn't ask who was the better shotblocker...
[QUOTE=Chapallaz]I'm afraid Ben would have been eaten alive by the centers Deke played against.[/QUOTE]
Who in particular?
Note the title...the only defenses that Deke anchored that were elite were in Atlanta. Some of the Big Ben's teams were all-time great defensively.
Wallace.
I've always felt Mutombo was overrated in terms of being a rim protector. I don't think he was the best defensive player of his time despite what his achievements say.
Ewing, Olajuwon, Smits, Robinson, O'Neal, Daugherty, Coleman.
[QUOTE=fpliii]
Note the title...the only defenses that Deke anchored that were elite were in Atlanta. Some of the Big Ben's teams were all-time great defensively.[/QUOTE]
He was great in his Pistons days. Im big fan of them, but they had 5 great defenders on 5 positions in their primes. Thats why they were so great defensively. Big Ben is too small to compare him with all time great centers like Russell, Wilt, Mutombo etc. But he was one of the best in his era. Tell me what happened with him when he left the Pistons?
Prime vs prime, Dikembe by a bit.
Career vs career, Dikembe and its not even close.
Probably Alonzo Mourning
[QUOTE=fpliii]Note the title...the only defenses that Deke anchored that were elite were in Atlanta. Some of the Big Ben's teams were all-time great defensively.[/QUOTE]
Team Defense:
Billups, Hamilton, Sheed, Prince>>>>>>>>>>>>Abdul Rauf, Ellis, Williams, Stith
With those last names you can anchor all you want. Detroit was incredibly well balanced.
Mutombo. I'm trying to remember the pfs Mutombo played with during his top defensive seasons in Atlanta and Philly and can't think of them at the moment. With Ben Wallace I often felt that as good as he was individually as a defender, he also benefitted from having Rasheed Wallace. I know he won DPOY before Sheed was traded to the Pistons. I admitted that he as already a dominant defender, but again I feel that his most impacting seasons were with Sheed.
[QUOTE=fpliii]
I didn't ask who was the better shotblocker...
Note the title...the only defenses that Deke anchored that were elite were in Atlanta. Some of the Big Ben's teams were all-time great defensively.[/QUOTE]
Mutombo was the better defender. As a pure anchor, Wallace was a more all-around defender, but Mutombo's impact was massive. And he was a better post defender.