Jordan's help. Wow.

1. Scottie Pippen
The 2nd best perimeter player of the 90's. Arguably the best perimeter defender of all time.

2. Dennis Rodman
The best rebounder of all time and one of the mos versatile defenders of all time. He put up seasons of 14.9 rpg, 16.1 rpg, and 15.0 rpg in his seasons with the Bulls.

3. Horace Grant
Played with the Bulls for 7 seasons until 93-94. The epitome of a perfect role player. Was a consistent player with a deady midrange jumper and outstanding defense. Peaked in his final Chicago season with outstanding averages of 15.1 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.2 bpg on 52%.

4. Toni Kukoc
Came in right after Horace left. Played with the Bulls from 93-94 up through Jordan's retirement. A lefty, solid playmaker, and smooth handles. What else would you expect out of another of Jordan's superstar teammates? Came over already established and in his prime at the age of 25. In his 2nd season with the Bulls he put up a cool 15.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg on 50%.

5. Charles Oakley
He played with Jordan before he learned how to collect and utilize talent amazingly (while berating it needlessly). They had a stint together in the 87-88 season where the Oak Tree dropped a more than respectable 12.4 ppg, 13.0 rpg, and 3.0 dimes. All while being a tree.

6. BJ Armstrong
A steadfast point guard that was reliable. Beyond reliable in reality - a great running mate. Stuck it out on the Bulls from 89-95. Learned the game (while being a great bench player) his first three years with good numbers. Peaked at the right time as a starter in the 93-94 season with a solid and efficient scoring line of 14.8 ppg, 3.9 apg on 48%, 44%, 86%

7. Ron Harper
Was a stat stuffer. Came to the Bulls to become a winner and increase their already league leading talent pool. What'd he drop the year before he joined the Bulls? An inspired 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg performance with some high level defense.

And a bunch of white guys that spread the floor as knock down shooters.

Has there ever been such a loaded roster as the ones Jordan enjoyed? I used to think Kobe or Bron had help but remembering history has shown that even the collusion titles of Bran pale in comparison to the talent dump the Bulls were. It's no surprise that they were still title contenders without him. Did he come back because his legacy would of been hurt by them winning a chip without him, or because he truly wanted the challenge of playing with an unfairly stacked team to win chips against significantly inferior opposition?

1986 Celtics or 1980s Lakers says Hi...

Too lazy to break down every player but some poster will do that for me

[QUOTE=To4]1986 Celtics or 1980s Lakers says Hi...

Too lazy to break down every player but some poster will do that for me[/QUOTE]

Modern era.

Nobody cares about that stuff - that was a different league, incomparable.

1960's: Racism. Black guys playing against a bunch of janitors.
1970's: The beginning of the the real NBA. A lot of random nonsense. A few transcendent players.
1980's: The first decade of real NBA basketball. The first construct of true teams, franchises and global impact.
1990's - current: Learned from the 80's and rode the aesthetically pleasing game of Jordan and created the modern era. Everything translates.

Idk about most stacked team of all time, but without a doubt Jordan's team was stacked as hell and without that stacked team he wouldn't be GOAT.

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Bulls only losing 2 less games after losing him

Multiple things prove his team was stacked af.

How did you leave out Steve Kerr one of the greatest set shooters of all time arguably the greatest. A shooter every combo guard in history would love to play with.

Don't forget the most important help: the GOAT coach.

This n!gga named Charles Oakley like he was some kind of great player. F*ck outta here.

[QUOTE=sundizz]Modern era.

Nobody cares about that stuff - that was a different league, incomparable.

1960's: Racism. Black guys playing against a bunch of janitors.
1970's: The beginning of the the real NBA. A lot of random nonsense. A few transcendent players.
1980's: The first decade of real NBA basketball. The first construct of true teams, franchises and global impact.
1990's - current: Learned from the 80's and rode the aesthetically pleasing game of Jordan and created the modern era. Everything translates.[/QUOTE]

Your 90s "summary" reads like a kindergartner :oldlol:

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

The 72-10 Bulls only had two players that made the All-Star Game.

I realize that Kerr is a very famous name. Former analyst, just won an NBA championship as a coach. But can you imagine going back in time to the 90s and saying that the Bulls are stacked because they have Steve Kerr. He's one name in particular, that young teenagers who hate Jordan think he was a hall of fame, All Star player.

Then you have players like Horace Grant. Who would know anything about Horace Grant if he wasn't a name associated with those Bulls team. BJ Armstrong. Are you kidding me?

The Bulls were top heavy, but they did have many role players that knew their role.

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thats all that needs to be said

Them getting Harper was the equivalent of the current Spurs or Cavs getting a Kevin Martin like player at his peak with Thabo Sefolosha like defense.

Absolutely ridiculous.

BJ Armstrong? If he kadnt played with MJ, kids like you wouldnt even know he played in the league.

[QUOTE=Bankaii]

Multiple things prove his team was stacked af.

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Actually, MJ needing to score more than anyone in history to win all his rings proves his team wasn't stacked at all.

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[SIZE="3"][I]Here's a different way to statistically explain why Curry is more efficient than his peers and fosters the best teamwork, but bear with me a sec...[/I][/SIZE]


[I][COLOR="Navy"][B]Here's a list of all the play-types listed on NBA.com, with the percentile rank that 1.00 PPP equates to in each category[/B] (the lower the percentile rank, the more efficient the play - as you can see, 1.00 PPP translates to the 60.4 percentile for "off-screen", and the 77.3 percentile for "isolations", so "off-screen" is more efficient):[/COLOR][/I]


[B]1) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/cut/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Cut[/url][/B]: 18.8 percentile

[b]2) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/roll-man/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Roll man on screen-rolls[/url][/b]: 49.3 percentile

[B]3) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/off-screen/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Off-screen[/url][/B]: 60.4 percentile

[B]4) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/spot-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Spot-ups[/url][/B]: 65.3 percentile

[B]5) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/hand-off/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Hand-offs[/url][/B]: 72.4 percentile

[B]6) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Isolations[/url][/B]: 77.3 percentile

[B]7) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive]Post-ups[/url][/B]: 81.7 percentile

[b]8) [url=http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/ball-handler/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=Points]Ballhandler on screen-rolls[/url][/B]: 91.7 percentile



HERE'S HOW THIS RELATES TO CURRY'S SUPERIORITY

The least efficient play shown above (ballhandler on screen rolls) constitutes 20-25% of the offense for top wings like Lebron, with another 20-25% coming from similarly low efficient isolations.. Essentially, the top wing players in the league use low efficiency ball-dominance over 50% of the time.

Point guards ALSO use the least efficient options - they're the ballhandler on screen rolls for 40% to 60% of their offense.

But the exception is Steph Curry.. He's the ballhandler on screen-rolls for [I][COLOR="Navy"]only 24.2%[/COLOR][/I] of his offense and only isolates 10% of the time.. He simply employs the higher efficiency OFF-BALL options more often than his peers.. This is contributes to his superior efficiency.

His off-ball offense not only makes him more efficeint, but this gives teammates more opportunity/time with the ball to be comfortable and play their game..

Unlike Lebron, teammates aren't starved of the ball and don't have to subjugate their game to the whim of the #1 option.. Ultimately, Curry is better because his off-ball play makes him more efficient, while giving his team more capacity to reach a higher level of teamwork and superior play.
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