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kind of an extension of the nash vs cp3 thread - i was legitimately surprised so many posters took nash over him.
i would too, but i thought it would be closer is all.
anyway, between the 3 in the title, who's the better player & who would you take in the playoffs, assuming the team is built around the players strength? :confusedshrug:
for me this is between Kidd vs Payton for first, hard to choose. Probably go with GP
[QUOTE=DaOldLion]for me this is between Kidd vs Payton for first, hard to choose. Probably go with GP[/QUOTE]
at his best, gp lead a team to the finals, was the only player i can think of that legimately shut down jordan (last 3 games of that series) won a dpoy over pippen, dream, rodman, robinson, etc., while still averaging 20 & 7. cp3 and kidd were great, but i think i'll take glove as well.
i don't question his competitive drive, or who he got his numbers against - a huge plus for me.
It's close between Kidd and Payton. I think I lead towards J-Kidd, then Glove, then Chris Paul.
CP3 is definitely better than the other 2. He can run the best offense in the league while playing All-NBA defense. How many other players at the PG position could you say that about? His skill level and all around play are superior to Kidd and Payton.
Payton is 2nd. He and Kidd are 2 of the best defenders at that position but Payton was a much better offensive player than Kidd and offense is the most important thing I look for in a PG.
Frankly this is between CP and Kidd for best and Payton third. CP can operate a much better NBa offense due to his playmaking ability which is far superior to Payton's. Kidd was like mini lebron in a sense meaning he could put up big time numbers and also carry a teams offense. He had some great numbers the seasons he made the finals. I don't see Payton being able to do what Kidd and cp do.
[QUOTE=Young X]CP3 is definitely better than the other 2. He can run the best offense in the league while playing All-NBA defense. How many other players at the PG position could you say that about? His skill level and all around play are superior to Kidd and Payton.
Payton is 2nd. He and Kidd are 2 of the best defenders at that position but Payton was a much better offensive player than Kidd and offense is the most important thing I look for in a PG.[/QUOTE]
Paul is the best of the 3, but Kidd was better than Payton.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Paul is the best of the 3, but Kidd was better than Payton.[/QUOTE]Why?
[QUOTE=Young X]Why?[/QUOTE]
Kidd made his teammates better and could control the flow of a game and dictate pace better than Payton.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Kidd made his teammates better and could control the flow of a game and dictate pace better than Payton.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but he was a mediocre/bad scorer. He was a limited and inefficient offensive player.
Outside of one year, he never led even an average offense. They were all either below average or bad.
Payton wasn't the best scorer either but he was a better offensive anchor than Kidd was.
Kidd is quite comfortably the worst player of the three.
They are close but I would take Payton at his peak everytime over the other two..
Tough question.
CP3 is a better offensive player, but Kidd and GP's size and defense skills/versatility is hard to pass up.
I would likely take Kidd first. He may not have the offensive game as GP and CP3, but his leadership skills were off the chart. Guys loved playing with Kidd, I can't say that for CP3 and GP and that is really important IMO when comes to the PG positions.
It is a toss between GP and CP3 for second.
prime peyton shitts on this 2 losers
[QUOTE=game3524]Tough question.
CP3 is a better offensive player, but Kidd and GP's size and defense skills/versatility is hard to pass up.
I would likely take Kidd first. He may not have the offensive game as GP and CP3, but his leadership skills were off the chart. Guys loved playing with Kidd, I can't say that for CP3 and GP and that is really important IMO when comes to the PG positions.
It is a toss between GP and CP3 for second.[/QUOTE]
its amazing really.
you got magic, oscar, isiah, and nash comfortably ahead of cp3 - and now the three in my op are a tossup.. i actually forgot about john stockton, so if anybody wants to give him love, go ahead and include him in this discussion.
if anything the topics over the last several weeks have exposed cp3 as an overrated point guard, and guys after magic/oscar/isiah as completely underrated.
the nash vs cp3 thread was like 90% in favor of nash..