in 70's, Curry long 2 < close post 2.. so curry/klay = role player in 70's

no system would ever be built around them back then.. they'd be role players getting the ball to the higher efficiency bigs

the're "gimmick" players and that's why Mike said he isn't a HOF (curry)

There's no rule set of basketball that is set in stone the way the game should be played.

Rules constantly change. MJ played his entire career with a 3pt line.

As you have said before... every.. GREAT player has their own style.

Nobody has ever had Chef's pull up and off ball style. He is a GOAT improvasionist.

And didnt have to rely on just muscling ******. (like MJ often had to)

True skill.

Klay was the ultimate off ball, spacing 2nd option.

1-9

Gail Goodrich is 2 inches shorter and a little lighter than Steph. He was a 4-5 time all star from the 70s and a hall of famer who put up 26 a game in the season this is from:

[url]https://youtu.be/Nxq_zGnqrgk[/url]


Tell me what he does that game you can

Curry with MJ

[QUOTE=tpols]

There's no rule set of basketball that is set in stone the way the game should be played.

[/quote]
Without a 3-point line, there [I]is[/I] a set way to play because the numbers say so:

2-pointers close to the basket with 7-footers > long 2's from 6-footers

i.e. post efficiency > long 2 efficiency

I'm sure if we look on the NBA stat site, it will prove this as well


[quote=tpols]

Rules constantly change. MJ played his entire career with a 3pt line.

As you have said before... every.. GREAT player has their own style.

[/quote]
of course the rules change, and that's the point - without a 3-point line, the only way Curry's long 2's would be more valuable than Barkley shooting 65% in the lane is if Curry could hit long 2's at 65% - [i]can Curry do that? Can he hit long 2's at 65%?[/i]

therefore he wouldn't be shit in the 70's and would be getting McAdoo the ball every time down.. maybe if McAdoo gets in trouble, Curry would get a look... like say, Paxson


[quote=tpols]

And didnt have to rely on just muscling ******. (like MJ often had to)

True skill.

[/QUOTE]
Well MJ did both - he'd muscle his defender the appropriate way, and then take the jumper the other way, thus creating enough space for a still-contested fadeaway jumper - it was his touch that allowed that shot to go in so much, despite literally 40% more jumpshooting volume than Curry (he made over 700 jumpers in a season, or 250 more than Curry's highest volume season of jumpshooting).

So it was infact MJ that had the true skill.... of muscling his defender and shooting a far more contested shot/closer defender while often 3 feet off the ground.


[quote=tpols]

[B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Nobody has ever had Chef's pull up and off ball style[/COLOR][/B]. He is a GOAT improvasionist.

[/quote]
nonsense.. he isn't the first with any sort of style, other than being the best shooter from 23-28 feet... period... and therefore taking advantage of the era and rules like you said... other guys have had his style, aka Mahmoud or Maravich, who had his skill while being taller and a better athlete.
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[QUOTE=Vino24]Curry with MJ

Nah...

[QUOTE]nonsense.. he isn't the first with any sort of style, other than being the best shooter from 23-28 feet[/QUOTE]

What Jordan did had been done.

Dr. J did that, as did many other ballers. The midrange was loooong perfected before MJ came through.

Big O did that.

Chef's 30 foot daggers? They never existed before him.

His style was truly unique.. impetuous.... and ferocious.

:biggums:

[QUOTE=tpols]Nah...



What Jordan did had been done.

Dr. J did that, as did many other ballers. The midrange was loooong perfected before MJ came through.

Big O did that.

Chef's 30 foot daggers? They never existed before him.

His style was truly unique.. impetuous.... and ferocious.

:biggums:[/QUOTE]
would you compare dr. j's jumper to bird's goat jumper?

so why are you comparing it to MJ's?

and since you didn't respond to the rest, i'll assume you agree with all of it - although I wasn't telling you anything new by saying Curry can't shoot 65% on long 2's
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Gail Goodrich is 2 inches shorter and a little lighter than Steph. He was a 4-5 time all star from the 70s and a hall of famer who put up 26 a game in the season this is from:

[url]https://youtu.be/Nxq_zGnqrgk[/url]


Tell me what he does that game you can

[QUOTE=3ball]would you compare dr. j's jumper to bird's goat jumper?

so why are you comparing it to MJ's?

and since you didn't respond to the rest, i'll assume you agree with all of it - although I wasn't telling you anything new by saying Curry can't shoot 65% on long 2's
.[/QUOTE]

Why doesn't anyone bring up Abdul-Rauf? He was Curry before Curry.

[QUOTE=BigShotBob]Why doesn't anyone bring up Abdul-Rauf? He was Curry before Curry.[/QUOTE]
I did in post #7

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Gail Goodrich is 2 inches shorter and a little lighter than Steph. He was a 4-5 time all star from the 70s and a hall of famer who put up 26 a game in the season this is from:

[url]https://youtu.be/Nxq_zGnqrgk[/url]


Tell me what he does that game you can’t imagine Steph being able to fill in for.[/QUOTE]
Gail was a much craftier scorer in the lane, in traffic, and the midrange area

Look how contested all those shots were in the midrange area - Curry would have to LIVE on those shots - he cannot - Gail could because he was a crafty lefty and had that scoring knack.. curry has fancy handle, but his end attack is a basic one-two step layup, so nothing like what Gail has, who could lean into defenders and make tough shots on the [I]regular[/I]

Is there anyone in the history of the game that you can give credit to besides MJ?