"Pippen was the best player in the world in 93, 94, 95" - Dennis Rodman

"and people didn't know that"


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You know 3ball is fcking DYING inside not being able to respond to this thread :oldlol:

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;13973709]3ball fcking DYING inside being unable to respond to this thread :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

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Sounds about right

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[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;13973709]You know 3ball is fcking DYING inside not being able to respond to this thread :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

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Umm no. Not even close in 1993. Wasn't even the best player at his own position that season. Old, post achilles tear Domonique Wilkins had a MONSTER season. Had a huge down year following the Olympics. Mike at 30 had to pick up his slack. Part of the reason they only won 57 games that year, besides pacing themselves.

1993

1) MJ
2) Barkley
3) Hakeem
4) Ewing
5) Nique

1994

1) Hakeem
2) D-Rob
3) IMO Shaq
4) Pippen
5) Ewing

1995

1) D-Rob
2) Hakeem
3) Shaq
4) K. Malone
5) Ewing

He's not even close in 1995 either. Hell, Mike came out of retirement / baseball for 1.75 years, and in only 17 games he CLEARLY was already the Bulls absolute best player.

Highest he EVER got on the MVP / Best Player ladder, is 3 or 4 depending how you rank him in the much praised 1994 season. Until that semis series against NY really exposed him yet again, in terms of being an alpha and a scorer. Much as it did the year prior, even with Jordan on the floor.

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH;13973726]Umm no. Not even close in 1993. Had a huge down year following the Olympics. Mike at 30 had to pick up his slack. Part of the reason they only won 57 games that year, besides pacing themselves.

1993

1) MJ
2) Barkley
3) Hakeem
4) Ewing
5) Nique

1994

1) Hakeem
2) D-Rob
3) IMO Shaq
4) Pippen
5) Ewing

1995

1) D-Rob
2) Hakeem
3) Shaq
4) K. Malone
5) Ewing

He's not even close in 1995 either. Hell, Mike came out of retirement / baseball for 1.75 years, and in only 17 games he CLEARLY was already the Bulls absolute best player.

Highest he EVER got on the MVP / Best Player ladder, is 3 or 4 depending how you rank him in the much praised 1994 season. Until that semis series against NY really exposed him yet again, in terms of being an alpha and a scorer. Much as it did the year prior, even with Jordan on the floor.[/QUOTE]

its just dennis rodmans opinion I dont think anyone would use his opinion as proof



the reason its so hilarious to me is because some posters tell us that pippen is a fake allstar.



meanwhile in reality he was top 3 in the world or top-5 at worst in the mid-90s.



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[QUOTE=red1;13973729]its just dennis rodmans opinion I dont think anyone would use his opinion as proof



the reason its so hilarious to me is because some posters tell us that pippen is a fake allstar.



meanwhile in reality he's top 3 in the world or top-5 at worst.



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Have you seen his North Korea opinions? Or the 30 for 30 on him? Even in his prime he was a whacko ... it's gotten worse since retirement.

[QUOTE=red1;13973729]its just dennis rodmans opinion I dont think anyone would use his opinion as proof



the reason its so hilarious to me is because some posters tell us that pippen is a fake allstar.



meanwhile in reality he was top 3 in the world or top-5 at worst in the mid-90s.



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He's right, Pippen was really that good. You just have these pathetic MJ stans trying to prop him down to make their hero look like he won with no help :facepalm

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH;13973735]Have you seen his North Korea opinions? Or the 30 for 30 on him? Even in his prime he was a whacko ... it's gotten worse since retirement.[/QUOTE]

not to mention dressing like a woman.



its still funny.

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Pip was never the best in the world but he was absolutely an elite player. It's stupid to see how his legacy is attacked by the crazy MJ stan and exalted by the James psychophants with probably neither side having watched him play and just shooting talking points with no context about games they never saw.

[QUOTE=red1;13973729]the reason its so hilarious to me is because some posters tell us that pippen is a fake allstar. [/QUOTE]

Exactly.

SamuariSwish, Jordan himself said Pippen was the best player in the NBA in 1995.

For me Pippen peaked at 3rd in 94' behind Hakeem and Robinson. In 95' he fell to 4th as Shaq surpassed him. 96' 5th as MJ was back. 97' 5th again. 98', 92' he wasn't top 5 but was close. 91' top 10.

Yet we have people like 3ball saying he was Mo Williams or others saying Kyrie Irving was much better. He was a legitimate superstar, a MVP caliber player. He was similar to Ewing or Drexler at their peaks--players MJ stans love to tell us were great.

People don't realize how hard it is to be the best player. Guys like Barkley, K. Malone, KG, Dirk, West, Oscar, Isiah, Dr. J, D. Robinson all never got to #1. Many legends don't even get into the top 5. Reggie Miller or Dominique were never close to the top 5.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;13973780]Pip was never the best in the world but he was absolutely an elite player. It's stupid to see how his legacy is attacked by the crazy MJ stan and exalted by the James psychophants with probably neither side having watched him play and just shooting talking points with no context about games they never saw.[/QUOTE]

exactly. he was excellent - maybe not a first option scoring-wise but a GREAT piece for any team. and CERTAINLY not some challenged bumbling klutz like some people have literally told us.


[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13973815]Exactly.

SamuariSwish, Jordan himself said Pippen was the best player in the NBA in 1995.

For me Pippen peaked at 3rd in 94' behind Hakeem and Robinson. In 95' he fell to 4th as Shaq surpassed him. 96' 5th as MJ was back. 97' 5th again. 98', 92' he wasn't top 5 but was close. 91' top 10.

Yet we have people like 3ball saying he was Mo Williams or others saying Kyrie Irving was much better. He was a legitimate superstar, a MVP caliber player. He was similar to Ewing or Drexler at their peaks--players MJ stans love to tell us were great.

People don't realize how hard it is to be the best player. Guys like Barkley, K. Malone, KG, Dirk, West, Oscar, Isiah, Dr. J, D. Robinson all never got to #1. Many legends don't even get into the top 5. Reggie Miller or Dominique were never close to the top 5.[/QUOTE]

pippen fam eating steak and caviar in 2020 :cheers:

Since everybody is basically quarantined with a lot of time on their hands, I guess I will add more fuel to the trolls' fire. This was Phil Jackson reflecting on how MJ's perception of Pippen changed after the Dream Team's performance in 1992.

[I][B]“Michael returned from the games raving about Scottie’s performance. Before the summer, Michael had regarded Pippen as the most talented member of his supporting cast. [U]But after watching him outplay Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, and other future Hall of Famers in Barcelona, Michael realized that Scottie was the best all-around player on what many consider the best basketball team ever assembled. Scottie, Michael had to admit, had even outshone him in several of the games.[/U]”[/B][/I]–Phil Jackson

[url]https://www.basketballnetwork.net/phil-jackson-remembers-a-moment-when-michael-jordan-realized-scottie-pippen-is-the-best-all-around-player-in-the-nba/[/url]

[QUOTE=jlip;13973844]Since everybody is basically quarantined with a lot of time on their hands, I guess I will add more fuel to the trolls' fire. This was Phil Jackson reflecting on how MJ's perception of Pippen changed after the Dream Team's performance in 1992.

[I][B]“Michael returned from the games raving about Scottie’s performance. Before the summer, Michael had regarded Pippen as the most talented member of his supporting cast. [U]But after watching him outplay Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, and other future Hall of Famers in Barcelona, Michael realized that Scottie was the best all-around player on what many consider the best basketball team ever assembled. Scottie, Michael had to admit, had even outshone him in several of the games.[/U]”[/B][/I]–Phil Jackson

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thanks for posting this. I've watched many videos of the dream team and mike and scottie were extremely athletic and pippen was a beast.


this doesnt surprise me at all.


I've posted this a couple of times - its the way pippen shut down kukoc who was a very hyped overseas prospect:

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