PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than Rudy

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Didnt say Rudy flatout but than any other big they faced :lol:lol

Imagine your $205 million big and "DPOY" being pretty much worse than a nikka on a rookie contract who was dumb enough to fail an NBA drug test :lol

Ayton is a lockdown man to man defender too and locked down Davis and jokic the first two rounds.

That 2018 draft is starting to turn out as the new 1984 draft

Hakeem Ayton

Trae Jordan

Luka Barkley

And Bagley is obviously sam bowie hahahaha

[QUOTE=HBK_Kliq_2;14366271]Ayton is a lockdown man to man defender too and locked down Davis and jokic the first two rounds.

That 2018 draft is starting to turn out as the new 1984 draft

Hakeem Ayton

Trae Jordan

Luka Barkley[/QUOTE]

Davis was injured, and Jokic put up 25/13/6 in some pretty limited time against them due to blowouts.

Great take though.

[QUOTE=plowking;14366279]Davis was injured, and Jokic put up 25/13/6 in some pretty limited time against them due to blowouts.

Great take though.[/QUOTE]

Ayton didnt defend Jokic the whole game. Not sure why ppl still post series stats like theyre guarding them 40 minutes a game.

[url]https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/1403791454753878016[/url]

Jokic got CLAMPED with Ayton on him. And that wasnt even the worst part. Babybois defense got EXPLOITED badly on the pick and roll and isos. CP and Book shooting practice shots on the midrange. Ayton getting roll finishes at the basket at will hahahaha. Jokic no can defend.

Its not just his defense on bigs Ayton is looking like a playoff animal and top 5 defender in the league.

[url]https://twitter.com/TheValleyStats/status/1404295675345391620[/url]

[QUOTE=PG13;14366258]Ayton is more agile, [B]more of a presence down low[/B] and better finisher than Rudy[/QUOTE]

yall literally couldnt play a center if he was in a game because toody would disrupt the game too much lol...fk outta here lying. we get it, you dont like the dude but come on now.... be believable

The man made yall run 5 out just so yall could score enough to keep up with the jazz

Xiao fuming



PG13 is just trolling, he says

As a Suns fan, there's 0 chance I'd trade Ayton for Rudy, and that's before even getting into their contract situations which makes it even worse. And unlike a lot of people on here I respect Rudy's defense and impact. He's a very good player and aside from trolling Xiao and his bad contract, idk why people shit on him so much.

But I honestly believe Ayton's defense as of right now is at least almost just as good, maybe even better because he's more versatile. Ayton passes when it comes to the eye test as well, you can just see the other team struggling to deal with him usually no matter who they switch onto him. Ayton excels defensively in a lot of situations that Rudy gets exposed in. He has the speed and athleticism, and verticality to switch onto any position. Very few players have the speed to abuse him.

Ayton's ceiling as a defender is ridiculous. It just gets slept on because he was known for being a poor defender in college, and he doesn't get as much sexy "normal" stats that show up on standard box scores like blocks and steals. But when you get into advanced head to head matchup stats you see his impact. Or better yet when you just watch him play. Especially in the playoffs where he's been playing the best ball of his life consistently every game. He makes so many people miss shots when he's on them, who are usually money.

Obviously he's much better offensively than Rudy and improving fast, and he's a 22 year old who's extremely coachable with a ceiling as high as the moon... realistically he's only going to get way better on the offensive end from here on out. In this playoffs alone I've seen so much growth in his game. He's finally learning that nobody can stop him when he's aggressive, and it's a beautiful thing to see.

[QUOTE=HBK_Kliq_2;14366271]Ayton is a lockdown man to man defender too and locked down Davis and jokic the first two rounds.

That 2018 draft is starting to turn out as the new 1984 draft

Hakeem Ayton

Trae Jordan

Luka Barkley[/QUOTE]

Your takes on players defense is worse than your takes on Kawhit. You just don't know anything about basketball, period.

So, lets line up all the morons that think Gobert > Ayton:

Xiao
Smoke


anyone else?

Only thing Rudy does better than Ayton is protect the rim in a regular season schedule

I don't even think he's a better defender in the yoffs.

Ayton already forced Lue to adjust and play Zubac in game 2 when they got away with playing all guard and wing lineups VS Toody all series. Ayton got a nice jump hook and footwork down low he damn near automatic. Oh and he ended up dunking a game winner on Zu :roll:

But but muh screen assist:roll:

Nikkas on a rookie deal better than the 205 million dollar man. WOAT contract

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14368850]So, lets line up all the morons that think Gobert > Ayton:

Xiao
Smoke


anyone else?[/QUOTE]

Rudy is clearly the higher impact player at this point. A small sample size in the playoffs doesn’t change that. Ayton hasn’t done anything at a consistent level to be put over Gobert. I don’t even care about Gobert. Everything I’ve said in relation to him and Mitchell is to pour gasoline on the flames and troll. Trying to put Ayton over him, though, is absolutely ****ing moronic.

[QUOTE=Smoke117;14368854]Rudy is clearly the higher impact player at this point. A small sample size in the playoffs doesn’t change that. Ayton hasn’t done anything at a consistent level to be put over Gobert. I don’t even care about Gobert. Everything I’ve said in relation to him and Mitchell is to pour gasoline on the flames and troll. Trying to put Ayton over him, though, is absolutely ****ing moronic.[/QUOTE]


You ****ing retard.

You ****ing **** dumbass


This type of IQ should not be allowed on bball forums

Why are people shitting on Rudy so much? What did he do to you all?

Who cares if he has a big contract. He'd be an idiot to turn it down.

[QUOTE=Smoke117;14368854]Rudy is clearly the higher impact player at this point. A small sample size in the playoffs doesn’t change that. Ayton hasn’t done anything at a consistent level to be put over Gobert. I don’t even care about Gobert. Everything I’ve said in relation to him and Mitchell is to pour gasoline on the flames and troll. Trying to put Ayton over him, though, is absolutely ****ing moronic.[/QUOTE]

Yet if he's the higher impact player then why are the Clippers players and fans admitting that Ayton is already a much bigger issue than Rudy was. Even if you give Rudy the edge on defense(which is honestly situational as I already said, since Ayton excels in a lot of situations Rudy struggles in). Not to mention the fact that Ayton is only 22.

Also the fact that he's playing his best ball in the playoffs when it matters most is a GOOD thing, and even more impressive when you consider it's only his first playoff appearance ever. What contender would ever chose a big who's great in reg season but average in the playoffs over a player who's average in the regular season but great in the playoffs?