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with Michael Cooper induction and Gobert's basic sanctification as a Hall of Famer we can now look at other criteria.
-2X All Star
- Gold Medalist
- NBA Champion (could get a second)
- KAJ award winner
- 3 time Tywman-Stokes award winner
- 6 time Defense All-NBA
They are going to have Holiday on Kyrie or Luka...he might be the pivotal player in this series and he's pushed his team The Celtics over the hump to get himself a second ring.
People should wait to react to something until after that thing happens. Hope he makes the Hall and makes Irving hate basketball for the next few weeks but it hasn't happened yet.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14918410]People should wait to react to something until after that thing happens. Hope he makes the Hall and makes Irving hate basketball for the next few weeks but it hasn't happened yet.[/QUOTE]
I think it's worth discussing because 5 of these Celtics are HOF ranked and they are close together
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html[/url]
12 - Kyrie
21 - Luka
25 - Tatum
27 - Horford
43 - Holiday
47 - Brown
77 - Porzingus
Mo Cheeks as a Hall is was pushing it.
Cooper has 5 titles and a DPOY though so that's pretty different.
[QUOTE=iamgine;14918560]Cooper has 5 titles and a DPOY though so that's pretty different.[/QUOTE]
Cooper also wasn't a full time starter.
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;14918562]Cooper also wasn't a full time starter.[/QUOTE]
That's also different
[QUOTE=iamgine;14918564]That's also different[/QUOTE]
Right, Michael Cooper never locked down anyone before.
[QUOTE=iamgine;14918560]Cooper has 5 titles and a DPOY though so that's pretty different.[/QUOTE]
Holiday has 3 individual awards 2 Teammate of the year (Twyman-Stokes) and (KAJ award)
Cooper also didn't make the Olympic team...Holiday did
[QUOTE=John8204;14918953]Holiday has 3 individual awards 2 Teammate of the year (Twyman-Stokes) and (KAJ award)
Cooper also didn't make the Olympic team...Holiday did[/QUOTE]
As I said...different. Holiday may/may not make it.
Incredible game and yet nobody wants to talk about this dude..he's making a FMVP right now.
[QUOTE=John8204;14918409]with Michael Cooper induction and Gobert's basic sanctification as a Hall of Famer we can now look at other criteria.
-2X All Star
- Gold Medalist
- NBA Champion (could get a second)
- KAJ award winner
- 3 time Tywman-Stokes award winner
- 6 time Defense All-NBA
They are going to have Holiday on Kyrie or Luka...he might be the pivotal player in this series and he's pushed his team The Celtics over the hump to get himself a second ring.[/QUOTE]
he wins another chip and possibly becomes MVP of finals ...
HOF like Billups.
He’s a consistent, nice player, but I don’t think the case is as compelling as you think.
He just had a game where he scored 26 on like 80% shooting and locked kyrie up. He's seriously underrated. I see him as a Joe dumars level talent... perhaps better on defense.
If you think about it guys like Dame and Harden and Westbrook were always considered way better but I feel like kyrie would light them up. And Dame isn't gonna do better than 26 on 80% shooting.
I’ve thought he’s always been very underrated. Him playing on quite a few crappy teams is a big culprit. He always seemed like a guy who would be an amazing piece for a title contender. Good for him that he’s been able to finally have a shot with some great squads.