Did the Heatles underachieve?

I saw Broussard and Rob Parker were discussing this subject this week. Obviously they won two Championships but a far cry from the "not 3, not 4, not 5" and are never mentioned in the all-time great teams. It reminds me of Lennox Lewis. He's never in the conversation for the GOAT heavyweight because although he beat everyone he ever faced, he suffered two horrible knockouts to journeymen.

You could say the same for the Heatles. They lost to an aging Dallas with one superstar and were destroyed by a record margin at the hand of the Spurs. LeBron also jumping ship as soon as they started sinking doesnt help their cause either.

Every franchise would take back to back Championships in any situation but when all is said and done, did they underachieve?

yes they only made 4 straight finals which is something no one has ever done i


besides russel celtics :oldlol:

super ez to do bruh...:oldlol:

mikey topped out at 3
duncan went b2b...once i think? Never even 3 let alone 4

are you a rookie fan?

[QUOTE=And1AllDay;14930188]yes they only made 4 straight finals which is something no one has ever done i


besides russel celtics :oldlol:

super ez to do bruh...:oldlol:

mikey topped out at 3
duncan went b2b...once i think? Never even 3 let alone 4

are you a rookie fan?[/QUOTE]

The Cavs and the Warriors also made 4 straight.

Are you a rookie fan?

[QUOTE=Nowoco;14930192]The Cavs and the Warriors also made 4 straight.

Are you a rookie fan?[/QUOTE]

4 + 4 = 8

11-18 = bran

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They should have won in 2011, but they took care of business otherwise. They had no real shot in 2014, that team was ravaged by injuries and age.

Yea they should have 3-peated 11-13.

They had the talent to win in the first year and did not so they underachieving a little but 2 championships is still highly respectable. People should stop belittling what an accomplishment it is to win even one championship. You have to be great and luck looms as a major factor that can both help as well as hurt.

heat are underrated now. that 2013 team was epic. had a 27-win streak and was clutch as ****. spurs were a bad matchup for them but they still clutched it out.


I'd say 2 rings and 4 finals appearances is performing right on par, not over or underachieving.

In theory, yes. But what doesn't get talked about is Wade basically being a shell of himself by the time he turned 31. He went from superstar to All-star level by the time the team broke up. Bosh also retired at like age 31. LeBron made the right move leaving.

They overachieved, they won those titles against all odds.

[QUOTE=red1;14930201]heat are underrated now. that 2013 team was epic. had a 27-win streak and was clutch as ****. spurs were a bad matchup for them but they still clutched it out.


I'd say 2 rings and 4 finals appearances is performing right on par, not over or underachieving.[/QUOTE]

This! people always say they weren't an alltime.great team and I just scratch my head looking at 2013.

I could see an argument that they underachieved looking as 2011, but that just proved to be a growing pain in hindsight. But whether or not they truly underachieved means youve gotta ask yourself: How many times has a franchise put together a team nearly from scratch in one off-season and went to 4 straight finals winning 2 back to back? If this is common then yeah they underachieved. But we know the trajectory of the 3 career and injury wise looking back. I'm saying no, if you put together a squad and they chip? mission accomplished. Hell I wish my hometown team could win 2 titles and go to 4 straight:facepalm

They left some meat on the bone in 2011, should have beaten Dallas in 6 if Lebron had played games 4-6 like he did 1-3. The overall best version was 2013 due to added depth but Wade and Bosh were also worse individually. They never quite had the perfect mix of circumstances to be as dominant as they could have been, but 4 straight finals trips and back to back ain't something to sneeze at either.

they did cuz they weren't together long. I think that's what makes it an issue, cuz they broke up due to the fact they could not sustain it, and that probably was not on anyone's mind when they teamed up. At least, it wasn't on mine. They did ok overall though.

-Smak

In hindsight...they overachieved 4 title runs in 4 years is impressive especially when you consider how good the Celtics, Lakers, and Spurs were. They were basically the fourth best team of that era...though we call them a "super team".

I don't think you were alive back then John. The Lakers were borderline washed at that point and irrelevant by the end of the Heatles run.

Celtics were washed halfway through the Heatles run and completely dismantled in the final year.

They definitely didn't overachieve given the expectations.

1 would have been disappointing l, 2 was average, 3 would have been excellent and 4 legendary goat shit.

They got 2.