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he's on the trade block. unfortunately the suns haven't decided to trade away booker and kd yet but they have benched beal AND nurkic as a result of poor play. kind of weird that after 3 major roster changes, 4 coaches the only common denominator is devin booker but the organization refuses to acknowledge he is the problem. weird huh?
and rumors are beal is willing to waive the ntc. being benched does that.
I knew that trade would blow up in their face. :oldlol: Good luck trading that contract.
The hornets.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14967831]I knew that trade would blow up in their face. :oldlol: Good luck trading that contract.[/QUOTE]
Like you knew the signing would blow up on the wizards, even though it ended up doing them no harm and getting them a bunch of draft capital as you were told it would?
Won’t be much trouble moving again either. It never is. People just feel like it is despite all evidence to the contrary. Theres gonna be 18 players making 48-59 million next year and almost 30 making 40.
it has never been easier to move a big contract because the CBA has bumped the middle class up to what used to be Max money while holding the previous max players pay below what it used to be percentage wise.
The owners made it easier on themselves to figure these things out. Vanvleet plus Jeff Green is $50 million.
And the new money isn’t even here till next year.
How many picks away from Butler's value?
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14967843]How many picks away from Butler's value?[/QUOTE]
not enough, miami already said they are not looking to take on beal's contract
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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14967837]Like you knew the signing would blow up on the wizards, even though it ended up doing them no harm and getting them a bunch of draft capital as you were told it would?
Won’t be much trouble moving again either. It never is. People just feel like it is despite all evidence to the contrary. Theres gonna be 18 players making 48-59 million next year and almost 30 making 40.
it has never been easier to move a big contract because the CBA has bumped the middle class up to what used to be Max money while holding the previous max players pay below what it used to be percentage wise.
The owners made it easier on themselves to figure these things out. Vanvleet plus Jeff Green is $50 million.
And the new money isn’t even here till next year.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the Wizards won 35 games in a year they were attempting to win, right? As i said at the time they weren't going to win with Beal even though they also had Porzingis (who had a career year). The GM got fired a year after making that deal. The Beal contract was so bad it literally got the GM fired by an owner who let Grunfeld hold the job for 14 years.
They completely wasted a year and missed out having a high pick in a very strong draft. And what did they get for Beal? Some 2nd rounders and pick swaps, and the only reason they got that is because Beal waived his no trade clause. And oh yeah it took a crazy new Suns owner to get that.
Not only that they could have gotten something other than a sandwich by trading Porzingus when he was still under contract. They had no leverage trading him to Boston because Porzingus could opt out and walk for nothing.
There was literally no upside to resigning Beal to that deal.
NBA lifers who have held executive positions have said it’s probably the worst contract in the history of the NBA
KBlaze and DMavs hold the L
Sure No upside to signing a contract that was easily moved that they did not have to pay that resulted in several pick swaps you yourself were praising as looking valuable yesterday.
A deal a couple of you were arguing was the worst signing in history resulted in literally nothing negative with several picks we will have to talk about in five years After being moved easily the very moment it was decided to shop it.
must be the least destructive signing in the history of signings I was told with destroyer franchise.
It did literally no harm whatsoever Wasn’t paid for and resulted in several improved drafts. I swear the sons could end up having to give you the eighth pick as you draft a Hall of Famer and you’ll still pretend the wizards were harmed, putting ink to paper on a contract they didn’t even pay.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14967856]Sure No upside to signing a contract that was easily moved that they did not have to pay that resulted in several pick swaps you yourself were praising as looking valuable yesterday.
A deal a couple of you were arguing was the worst signing in history resulted in literally nothing negative with several picks we will have to talk about in five years After being moved easily the very moment it was decided to shop it.
must be the least destructive signing in the history of signings I was told with destroyer franchise.
It did literally no harm whatsoever Wasn’t paid for and resulted in several improved drafts. I swear the sons could end up having to give you the eighth pick as you draft a Hall of Famer and you’ll still pretend the wizards were harmed, putting ink to paper on a contract they didn’t even pay.[/QUOTE]
Easily moved? First of all it had to be to a team Beal approved of so he could waive his no trade clause. Secondly it took a team dumb enough to trade for him. That doesn't qualify as easily moved.
After this season Beal still has two years left for $110 million. That isn't a contract that is easily moved. BTW how is that Lavine trade coming along?
The Wizards signed Beal intending to win and they won only 35 games. The Suns traded for Beal intending to contend for a title and it has blown up in their faces. The Beal contract is toxic to any team that is actually trying to win.
Instead of starting the tank for the Wemby draft we started the tank in a year Risacher got picked at 1.
There is a difference between Beal being worth the contract and the contract hiring the Wizards. I do see the Wizards as having gotten lucky with a trading partner in Phoenix but then getting lucky means signing the deal shouldn't have. Sure, if every other GM was good they would have been stuck but that's never been the case.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14967855]NBA lifers who have held executive positions have said it’s probably the worst contract in the history of the NBA
KBlaze and DMavs hold the L[/QUOTE]
go look at Kawhi Leonard and Paul George’s pay the next several years. Look at what they have done this year and project several more years of it as they become worse.
Beals contract wouldn’t even be the second worst of people who were on the clippers last season.
Reading reports of the response from when my team was checking the market for Zach Lavine I’m not sure it compares to that either. Beal got traded in about 45 minutes.
it would have a hard time contending for the worst contract in wizard history. Even forgetting John wall who is who most would remember recently, they paid Juwan Howard more than Hakeem. At the point beals contract would be expiring he will still being paid the modern copy equivalent of $60 million because you could sign for 7 years in those days.
Howard’s contract would be like signing….hell I don’t know…Siakam…to 350 million. Except having to pay for 2 more seasonsz
[QUOTE=tontoz;14967859]Easily moved? First of all it had to be to a team Beal approved of so he could waive his no trade clause. Secondly it took a team dumb enough to trade for him. That doesn't qualify as easily moved.
After this season Beal still has two years left for $110 million. That isn't a contract that is easily moved. BTW how is that Lavine trade coming along?
The Wizards signed Beal intending to win and they won only 35 games. The Suns traded for Beal intending to contend for a title and it has blown up in their faces. The Beal contract is toxic to any team that is actually trying to win.
Instead of starting the tank for the Wemby draft we started the tank in a year Risacher got picked at 1.[/QUOTE]
if you announce the two of you have decided to look for a trade partner and you find one immediately? It’s kind of hard to call it something other than easy.
it went precisely the way you were told it would. The no trade clause didn’t end up being an issue. The salary didn’t end up being an issue. The very moment it was decided he should be elsewhere it was quickly accomplished for draft capital you will be happy to accept from the suns in years to come.
Didnt pay the money. Got compensation. Big nothing.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14967864]if you announce the two of you have decided to look for a trade partner and you find one immediately? It’s kind of hard to call it something other than easy.
it went precisely the way you were told it would. The no trade clause didn’t end up being an issue. The salary didn’t end up being an issue. The very moment it was decided he should be elsewhere it was quickly accomplished for draft capital you will be happy to accept from the suns in years to come.
Didnt pay the money. Got compensation. Big nothing.[/QUOTE]
Just because you win by going all in with 73 off against AA doesn't make it a good play.
You probably wouldn't remember the amnesty clause. It was in the CBA years ago which allowed a team to release a player and his contract wouldn't count against the cap, even though they would still be paying it. The wizards used it on Blatche and were still paying him while he was playing in China.
Why did they put the amnesty clause into the CBA of bad contracts were so easy to trade?