Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
Prime Chris Paul is better than Prime John Stockton who averaged 9.7 ppg in the 1998 Finals. 12.8 ppg, .8 apg, 2.3 rpg in two NBA finals appearances. CP3 averaged 21.8 ppg, and 8.2 apg in the 2021 NBA Finals. Stockton is also never been a top 5 mvp candidate in his entire NBA career. Chris Paul finished 2nd in MVP voting behind Kobe in 2008. And in their best statistical season CP3 is also better you put CP3 with Karl Malone they would be winning multiple rings in the 1990's. CP3 also have more all NBA all star appearances, more all NBA first team, same numbers of all NBA team selection. Better defensive player (7x all NBA defensive first team, 0 all nba first team Stockton. CP3 9 all NBA defensive team team compared to Stockton's 5x all NBA defensive team selection. CP3 is also the better Better offensive player. They are both in the same tier as a passer with Stockton eclipcing him in durability. Best Statistical Season 2008 Chris Paul 22.8 ppg, 11 apg 2.8 spg. John Stockton 1990. 17.5 ppg 14.8 apg. 2.7 apg. Career stats CP3 17 ppg 9.2 rpg 4.4 rpg, 2.0 spg. John Stockton 13 ppg 10.5 apg, 2.2 rpg, playoffs Chris Paul 20.1 ppg, 8.3 apg, 4.9 rpg, 1.9 spg, John Stockton 13 ppg, 10 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.9 apg
Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
If we are talking just prime, it's not a question. CP3 was superior to Stockton, as was Nash.
Stockton is held high because of his longevity, he was never a player who was competing for MVPs.
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It's actually crazy CP3 averaged that in the Finals at 36 years old, I bet most fans wouldn't have remembered he averaged 22/8 in that series. The blown 2-0 lead, his horrific Game 4 and remaining ringless would probably play a role in people's perception of his performance in that series.
Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
Just as a pure talent? Easily. Quite a few All-timer PGs can say that. CP3 actually had the ability to take over a game offensively on top of his playmaking, something Stockton never could with any consistency. I'd go as far as to say just in a vacuum, the Jazz would have been a more potent offense in the early 90s if Mark Price was in place of Stockton. He was much more of a threat in terms of his own scoring with a high PnR IQ, would have been a perfect complement to Malone. May have been the difference between the Jazz losing the 92 WCFs when Porter took a shit on Stockton.
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100% wrong ... paul has never been to the finals.
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[QUOTE=Jasper;15017142]100% wrong ... paul has never been to the finals.[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
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Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
[QUOTE=Jasper;15017142]100% wrong ... paul has never been to the finals.[/QUOTE]
Shut up fakkit
Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
[QUOTE=Jasper;15017142]100% wrong ... paul has never been to the finals.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
Chris Paul is better player talent wise but less available and more chokes. Paul almost won MVP over the GOAT Kobe Bean. Stockton never came close to an MVP. He wasn't even the best player on his own team. That was Karl.
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[QUOTE=Phoenix;15017133]Just as a pure talent? Easily. Quite a few All-timer PGs can say that. CP3 actually had the ability to take over a game offensively on top of his playmaking, something Stockton never could with any consistency. I'd go as far as to say just in a vacuum, the Jazz would have been a more potent offense in the early 90s if Mark Price was in place of Stockton. He was much more of a threat in terms of his own scoring with a high PnR IQ, would have been a perfect complement to Malone. May have been the difference between the Jazz losing the 92 WCFs when Porter took a shit on Stockton.[/QUOTE]
Sloan wouldnt have let price play the same way. Not a fan of the 3
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[QUOTE=tpols;15017173]Chris Paul is better player talent wise but less available and more chokes. Paul almost won MVP over the GOAT Kobe Bean. Stockton never came close to an MVP. He wasn't even the best player on his own team. That was Karl.[/QUOTE]
Id have taken stockton anyday if id had to make a choice
Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017184]Id have taken stockton anyday if id had to make a choice[/QUOTE]
Rudy is better than both.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017183]Sloan wouldnt have let price play the same way. Not a fan of the 3[/QUOTE]
Even without the 3 Price was a more dangerous offensive player, that alone puts more pressure on the defense. John Stockton isn't going to bust the game wide open with his scoring. And Sloan not being a fan of the 3 may have shifted with an actual marksman on the roster. We don't know for sure, but a good coach is going to maximize the tools in his chest. I mean look at Price busting the Bulls ass here:
[video=youtube;_X4lXwneeXo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X4lXwneeXo&ab_channel=MJ23HisAirnessForever[/video]
You think Sloan is going to say 'you know what Mark, we don't really need any of that'.
Re: Chris Paul is better than John Stockton
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017184]Id have taken stockton anyday if id had to make a choice[/QUOTE]
Karl Malone is your GOAT.