Believe the hype on Greg Oden

People talk about fatigue. But Oden played very well in back-to-back games on Tues and Wed. Averaging 13.5 points and 7 rebounds in 20 minutes of play. The fouls are a concern. But dude is a beast inside. And his touch looked nice on the free throw attempts as well.

Haters can argue all they like, but really they should just be jumping on the Blazers bandwagon.

[QUOTE]The 2008 Blazers are like Season 1 of The Sopranos. No one’s ever seen a show (or in this case, a team) quite like this before. The cast is strong, the storylines are gripping and the directors/producers know what the hell they’re doing. Everything is primed for a great run. And if you don’t buy in now you’ll be left looking like one of “those guys” at the party saying, “Oh yeah, the Sopranos. I’ve heard that’s a great show”.

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[QUOTE=oldenpolynice]This guy is going to be a force for years to come.[/QUOTE]

If he can stay healthy...sure. 1 year at Ohio State, wrist injury...before the pre-season even started knee injury...

...and his weight doesn't help the matter, he's bigger than he was a year ago, especially in the upper body, which in-turn means more pressure on his knees.

Take it a day at a time. Everyone is fresh and healthy at this point of the preseason. Lets see how he looks on a 5 games/5 nights east coast swing in February.

I'm an Ohio State fan and not a "hater," but he is still a project in the making. This will take some time to unfold. Wish him the best of luck, though.

[QUOTE=Meticode]If he can stay healthy...sure. 1 year at Ohio State, wrist injury...before the pre-season even started knee injury...

...and his weight doesn't help the matter, he's bigger than he was a year ago, especially in the upper body, which in-turn means more pressure on his knees.[/QUOTE]

Roy had heal problems, and multiple knee surgerys. He's an All Star now.

Aldridge came into the league coming off the bench and had shoulder surgery. He has also had some foot injuries. He's going to be an All Star.

Oden has spent the last year working out and strengthening his knee. His was as perfect as a recovery can go for microfracture. Even more successful than Amare Stoudamire and we know how that turned out. Oden will be an All Star in a couple of years.

Injuries happen. I wouldn't worry about Oden in this case. The guy hates losing and his will to win and do anything it takes to win for his team. He will fight through injuries.

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]Roy had heal problems, and multiple knee surgerys. He's an All Star now.

Aldridge came into the league coming off the bench and had shoulder surgery. He has also had some foot injuries. He's going to be an All Star.

Oden has spent the last year working out and strengthening his knee. His was as perfect as a recovery can go for microfracture. Even more successful than Amare Stoudamire and we know how that turned out. Oden will be an All Star in a couple of years.

Injuries happen. I wouldn't worry about Oden in this case. The guy hates losing and his will to win and do anything it takes to win for his team. He will fight through injuries.[/QUOTE]

? who cares about that, everyone is different some people just cant avoid injuries and greg oden has had an injurey every year of his young career, high school, college, and pre-nba.

not saying hes gonna get injured though

[QUOTE=Meticode]If he can stay healthy...sure. 1 year at Ohio State, wrist injury...before the pre-season even started knee injury...

...and his weight doesn't help the matter, he's bigger than he was a year ago, especially in the upper body, which in-turn means more pressure on his knees.[/QUOTE]

His weight is my only concern. But this is the NBA we're talking about here. If it's in the franchise's best interest to keep Oden's weight stabilized, they will stabilize Oden's weight.

This guy is a cash cow. He's like Kobe in L.A. or Allen Iverson when he was in Philly. The Blazers won't jeapordize that. They'll get the best nutritionists and trainers available.

[QUOTE=mlh1981]Take it a day at a time. Everyone is fresh and healthy at this point of the preseason. Lets see how he looks on a 5 games/5 nights east coast swing in February.

I'm an Ohio State fan and not a "hater," but he is still a project in the making. This will take some time to unfold. Wish him the best of luck, though.[/QUOTE]exactly wait until he hits the rookie wall and see how he plays the second half of the season, when travel and wear and tear take it's toll..they guy hasn't played in over a year and people are touting 20 minutes a game as some kinda milestone...lol

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]

Oden has spent the last year working out and strengthening his knee. His was as perfect as a recovery can go for microfracture. Even more successful than Amare Stoudamire and we know how that turned out. Oden will be an All Star in a couple of years.

Injuries happen. I wouldn't worry about Oden in this case. The guy hates losing and his will to win and do anything it takes to win for his team. He will fight through injuries.[/QUOTE]
His recovery isnt over kid and his recovery hasnt been more successful than Amare because he hasnt proven **** yet. He hasnt proven he could have no complications because of the surgury. Get back at me in 2 years if he has stayed realtively healthy. Then we can talk. Lets not forget that Amare only missed a year just like Oden.

Oden is by far the most promising young big man in this league but I'd say I will be surprised if he turns out to be half as good as Prime Tim Duncan in the end.

[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Oden is by far the most promising young big man in this league but I'd say I will be surprised if he turns out to be half as good as Prime Tim Duncan in the end.[/QUOTE]
Half as good as a prime Tim Duncan? :roll:

What would you consider half as good? 14/7 starting on a playoff team? :lol

[QUOTE=statman32]His recovery isnt over kid and his recovery hasnt been more successful than Amare because he hasnt proven **** yet. He hasnt proven he could have no complications because of the surgury. Get back at me in 2 years if he has stayed realtively healthy. Then we can talk. Lets not forget that Amare only missed a year just like Oden.[/QUOTE]

I meant that in the way that Amare came back early and had complications. Oden hasn't had any swelling or stiffness at all (so far).

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]I meant that in the way that Amare came back early and had complications. Oden hasn't had any swelling or stiffness at all (so far).[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldnt call it a win yet. Hell I still worry about Amares knees and hes stayed somewhat healthy for the last 2 years. Then you have the belief that a player might need the surgery again after 4-5 years of playing. It sucks. Lets just hope that it works out for both of them.

[QUOTE=mlh1981]Take it a day at a time. Everyone is fresh and healthy at this point of the preseason. Lets see how he looks on a 5 games/5 nights east coast swing in February.

I'm an Ohio State fan and not a "hater," but he is still a project in the making. This will take some time to unfold. Wish him the best of luck, though.[/QUOTE]

5 games in 5 nights?

Pretty sure that has never happened in the history of the NBA.

Oden's offense is still a big concern for me but hey I'm not arguing with getting all your points off dunks and free throws.

Yeah, what about 100 GAMES IN A ROW?!?!

why don't we wait to see what greg oden does in the regular season before declaring him the next great center. he's definitely got the potential to be up there, but he also has factors working against him, such as injuries, foul trouble, and the blazers being too cautious with him.

[QUOTE=TBurge-UNL]why don't we wait to see what greg oden does in the regular season before declaring him the next great center. he's definitely got the potential to be up there, but he also has factors working against him, such as injuries, foul trouble, and the blazers being too cautious with him.[/QUOTE]

I have a better idea. Let's not wait to declare him a great talent. Let's just sit back and enjoy him while he rolls over 80% of the Western conference big men and intimidates the hell out of everyone.

[QUOTE=oldenpolynice]I have a better idea. Let's not wait to declare him a great talent. Let's just sit back and enjoy him while he rolls over 80% of the Western conference big men and intimidates the hell out of everyone.[/QUOTE]

well if it happens, i'll definitely enjoy it. :cheers:

[QUOTE=BlazersDozen]5 games in 5 nights?

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I think he meant 4 games in 5 nights.

And why can't everyone wait to actually see the guy play a couple of months in the regular season before judging him ? Sometimes I feel the Oden hype is even bigger than the LeBron one a few years ago ...

[QUOTE=Mikaiel]I think he meant 4 games in 5 nights.

And why can't everyone wait to actually see the guy play a couple of months in the regular season before judging him ? Sometimes I feel the Oden hype is even bigger than the LeBron one a few years ago ...[/QUOTE]

I disagree. I think he was really hyped and that the injury made it more suspensful etc.

Lebron was the saviour of the league in HS.

He's going to be special, however I'd like to see him drop about 15lbs.

the real question is, would greg oden be as popular if he was a laker and would andrew bynum be more popular as a blazer...?

[QUOTE=TBurge-UNL]the real question is, would greg oden be as popular if he was a laker and would andrew bynum be more popular as a blazer...?[/QUOTE]
Well, I think Oden would be hyped no matter where he was (although being with the Blazers has the added bonus of potentially making them a great team) whereas the level of hype surrounding Bynum would be greatly decreased if he was playing for say, New Jersey or Memphis.

[QUOTE=statman32]Well I wouldnt call it a win yet. Hell I still worry about Amares knees and hes stayed somewhat healthy for the last 2 years. Then you have the belief that a player might need the surgery again after 4-5 years of playing. It sucks. Lets just hope that it works out for both of them.[/QUOTE]

I heard you can't do the surgery twice. Seems like it's not true but Amare would just get his knee retouched, not the full microfracture on the same knee. Yeah, I guarantee Amare has worked on making his knee strong so it won't get injured again.

[quote=RoseCity07]I heard you can't do the surgery twice. Seems like it's not true but Amare would just get his knee retouched, not the full microfracture on the same knee. Yeah,[B] I guarantee Amare has worked on making his knee strong so it won't get injured again[/B].[/quote]

I lol'd

[QUOTE=oldenpolynice]I have a better idea. Let's not wait to declare him a great talent. Let's just sit back and enjoy him while he rolls over 80% of the Western conference big men and intimidates the hell out of everyone.[/QUOTE]

or how about you type your excuses in advance for when he does fail?

1st-Grader I saw on Youtube > Beasley > Lebron

Personally I think he should lose a bit of weight. I haven't watched him as intently as Blazers fans so I may have missed some things, but to me it seems like he isn't jumping quite as high as before. Seems a little slow and less agile as well. But the scary thing is that despite all that, he's still looked pretty good.

If he lost some weight and got his vert back to the 34 inches it was before, he'd be scary. He doesn't need all that muscle - seriously, who is going to overpower him? I want to see him get his vert back to this kind of level:
[img]http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg[/img]
Think a bigger, stronger, but slower and less agile version of pre-surgery Amare.

[QUOTE=Kobe24]or how about you type your excuses in advance for when he does fail?[/QUOTE]

How about you start writing your concession for when Oden wins Rookie of the Year. Or maybe you'll just stay off the boards that day...

Why is everybody against Oden?

LeBron was more hyped when he was in his Junior year of high school along with Sebastian Telfair. I guess nobody around here read Slam back then.

[QUOTE=BlazersDozen]Why is everybody against Oden?

LeBron was more hyped when he was in his Junior year of high school along with Sebastian Telfair. I guess nobody around here read Slam back then.[/QUOTE]

Mostly because of Bynum, I think. Great centers come around so rarely and to have two of them emerge in the same season is kind of polarizing. Instead of liking both, most fans are picking sides. If Oden came into the NBA two years ago, he would probably have more supporters.

[QUOTE=oldenpolynice]Mostly because of Bynum, I think. Great centers come around so rarely and to have two of them emerge in the same season is kind of polarizing. Instead of liking both, most fans are picking sides. If Oden came into the NBA two years ago, he would probably have more supporters.[/QUOTE]

Two great centers emerged in the same season? Who?

I saw one recently, Dwight Howard.

Gave Bynum and Oden combined even played one full seasons worth of games?

don't need to wait a while when some things are straight up obvious. this discussion is almost a no brainer.

oden's going to be a beast.

if you still don't see it, you're just slow.

[QUOTE=JayGuevara]Two great centers emerged in the same season? Who?

I saw one recently, Dwight Howard.

Gave Bynum and Oden combined even played one full seasons worth of games?[/QUOTE]

I guess skepticism is healthy. But you seriously don't believe Oden and Bynum will be great centers?

[QUOTE=oldenpolynice]I guess skepticism is healthy. But you seriously don't believe Oden and Bynum will be great centers?[/QUOTE]

They have potential. And at the time they were drafted, so did Kwame and Darko. But as of this moment, they're not great centers.

It's like with OJ or any trial. Innocent until proven guilty, regardless of what you may think. And without sufficient evidence, cases get thrown out.

[QUOTE=JayGuevara]They have potential. And at the time they were drafted, so did Kwame and Darko. But as of this moment, they're not great centers.

It's like with OJ or any trial. Innocent until proven guilty, regardless of what you may think. And without sufficient evidence, cases get thrown out.[/QUOTE]

You're comparing Bynum and Oden to Kwame and Darko? Pretty ridiculous...

Bynum clearly recognized his potential last season before getting injured and Oden has already proved he is solid in all parts of the big man game. Kwame and Darko were high-risk potential picks who never panned out. No comparison here.

[QUOTE=3stat2]Personally I think he should lose a bit of weight. I haven't watched him as intently as Blazers fans so I may have missed some things, but to me it seems like he isn't jumping quite as high as before. Seems a little slow and less agile as well. But the scary thing is that despite all that, he's still looked pretty good.

If he lost some weight and got his vert back to the 34 inches it was before, he'd be scary. He doesn't need all that muscle - seriously, who is going to overpower him? I want to see him get his vert back to this kind of level:
[img]http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg[/img]
Think a bigger, stronger, but slower and less agile version of pre-surgery Amare.[/QUOTE]

even his teammate (i think it's david lighty?) is like WTF, is he going to really throw THAT down?

[QUOTE=Sharas]even his teammate (i think it's david lighty?) is like WTF, is he going to really throw THAT down?[/QUOTE]
And he didn't and probably would have been called for a charge in the NBA in the process

[QUOTE=Da KO King]And he didn't and probably would have been called for a charge in the NBA in the process[/QUOTE]

You're right it did miss, but it is a glimpse of his extreme athleticism for a 7 footer.

[url]http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2130/odenjammd9.jpg[/url]

is that leon powe hes charging on?

I'm pretty sure if he got a charge on a one off play like this, the coach wouldn't give a crap